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I put this up on Monday:

http://www.rooshv.com/how-to-stop-rape

Quote:If rape becomes legal under my proposal, a girl will protect her body in the same manner that she protects her purse and smartphone. If rape becomes legal, a girl will not enter an impaired state of mind where she can’t resist being dragged off to a bedroom with a man who she is unsure of—she’ll scream, yell, or kick at his attempt while bystanders are still around. If rape becomes legal, she will never be unchaperoned with a man she doesn’t want to sleep with. After several months of advertising this law throughout the land, rape would be virtually eliminated on the first day it is applied.

Future transsexual David Futrelle wrote about it first:
Pickup guru Roosh V: End rape by making it legal

Then Raw Story:
Misogynist blogger says Make rape on private property legal so women can have ‘learning experiences’

Then our favorite ball of fun Lindy West (not her hair color):


https://twitter.com/thelindywest/status/...0300769280

And the Twitter rage: https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=...e&src=typd

Me right now:


It's fine to disagree with my proposal, but I am stating it because I really believe it would decrease rape, just like how forcing you to lock your car door would decrease car theft. But as you know, anything that makes a woman take responsibility for her actions will be attacked.

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I was moderately surprised it took this long.

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Couple more:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesa...-too-long/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125554930

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comm...making_it/

http://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comme..._solution/

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Have any of them reacted in a way that doesn't prove they just want to remove all responsibility for women?

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It's amazing how it went right over their heads. For people who analyze virtually everything, i can't see how they missed a totally obvious point.

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It probably sounded to the SJWs like a tautological argument- especially because they are statists and believe the government is (almost) always right- and thus somethings morality is based on its legality. So to them, they probably thought you werent trying to prevent rape(as in, the crime) but simply classify rape as "non-rape", similar to how in The Wire, cops talk about having to classify robberies as larcenies and the like.

However, given how "rape" has changed in definition so drastically because of SJW and victim-complex ideology, such as when rape is referring to regretful, drunken, or nonconsensual but the girl doesnt explicitly say so, to give a few examples, even the above argument doesnt hold much water. If you label perfectly moral behaviors as rape, it also then shouldnt follow that you should necessarily be punished legally for said behaviors.

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In parts of Sweden according to some stuff Zelcorpion posted, blondes dye their hair to be less enticing. So yea, when there is a real rape problem girls do safeguard themselves.

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delete

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Adding to eclipse's post, The Last Psychiatrist penned this article nearly five years ago.

http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/10/w...to_sc.html
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/10/p..._alon.html

And the take-away quote is below:

Quote:So the issue isn't whether there are pervs who might try to seduce your daughter on a babysitting gig after cheerleading practice; you already assume everyone is thinking it, because if you don't feel any guilt, why would they? What you're left wondering is to what degree external controls-- shame-- are a strong enough disincentive-- word chosen very carefully-- for the other guy. And the answer you're going to come up with is: if there's a way they can get away with it, not very strong.

Societal narcissism has put us in a bit of a bind.

*** We don't believe that guilt will will control a person's behavior, because we don't feel any guilt in
ourselves.

*** We are very aware of the gigantic numbers of people that have easy access to us, but they are mostly
supporting cast in our movie that we know nothing about because we do not really want to know
anything about them, so we assume they're like us-- unable to feel guilt.

*** If you consider yourself ethically/morally above average-- despite the porn, cheating, self-serving
lying, then it is entirely logical to assume most people you see in the street are cannibals.

*** And the external controls you place on your kids and on strangers as protection end up being
reminders that you haven't done an adequate job of preparing your child for life.

This is the result: you hover more, trust less, live with an unrelenting low level anxiety, and masturbate a lot.

In other words, the guys on the RVF forum have many real-life friends. So you know that both you and the majority of your friends would never rape a woman, even if it were legal.

Whereas, the Blue Pill people don't have many real-life friends, (preferring to live in echo chambers), and therefore assume that the majority of men would rape a woman, especially if it were legal. Hence, they can't see Roosh's point about personal female safety, and can only see it as, "Roosh literally wants to let women get raped."

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I think Roosh has a crazy stalker.

   

Post: #14

To clarify, you are proposing end to allowing allegation of rape without direct evidence? The violent rapists will still be charged for their crimes.

Saying legalize rape sounds extreme. Especially as most rape does not bring direct evidence. A guy raped in prison - it could be consensual for all anyone knows. No witnesses to testify.

I lived in Dubai, and the news reported some 16 year old french boy was offered a ride home from Emirates mall from his classmate. Classmate's older cousin and cousin's friends picked them up, took them out in desert and gang raped french boy in his ass. Onne rapist had HIV. So French kid ends up in hospital. Parents press charges. State government had doctor inspect victim - prognosis: kid was gay because his butthole was dilated, so consensual. source: http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3932740

Young girls, especially, are very easy to influence. They make terrible decisions. They get shit tattoos to look cool and get acceptance/approval. They don't listen to their parents. They rebel. They think they are ready to make all their life decisions with no intervention from caring adults who give a shit about them. They need laws to protect them from themselves.

But older women, past 23 years old, they have to know better. They are adults by that point and need to take responsibility for themselves. If I drive drunk and get in an accident, I shouldn't blame the bartender. And until I am 21 there exist laws to prevent me from making that mistake - but after that, I am free to make mistakes, and pay the price.

My personal experience is that girls going out with friends is not cast iron protection from being taken advantage of. If you want to have fun, alcohol will likely be involved, in most western countries.

Maybe this is in reaction to extremist points of view from feminists, who constantly put out propaganda to make men feel like shit, and emotionally castrate young men. I worry about what effect this is having right now on people. But I hate giving those assholes fuel to their fire. Best case scenario is that people get tired of them ranting against men so much.

Besides, for many centuries, everyone ignored feminists. Why reply to feminist's hate now?

Post: #15

I endorse the proposal.

Simply define entering a man's private dwelling as consent to sex. She can withdraw consent any time by leaving.

Teach women not to spend time alone with men that she doesn't want to have sex with.

Teach women not to be cock teases.

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(02-18-2015 09:02 PM)JustlookingForAGoodTime Wrote:  It's amazing how it went right over their heads. For people who analyze virtually everything, i can't see how they missed a totally obvious point.

The obvious sign this is vicious satire is right there in the opening paragraph.

Quote:so I carefully examined the articles on Salon, Buzzfeed, and Huffington Post that were written by professional journalists who pursue truth and justice over mass hysteria and delirium.

Remember, they're reading not to understand or analyse - after all, the twenty-something, privileged, grand +1 SD intellects of the journalism / humanities field carry the sum of all human knowledge within their heads and know all that is to ever be learned on any topic. They read to simply mine for ammunition to attack their enemies: political opponents and those deemed 'subversive'. It's a classic tactic of witch-hunts, mass hysteria and moral panics. Pure 1950's red scare McCarthyism.

This is why I've been referring to the current wave of ugly, unfuckable women throw themselves on virtual fainting couches as I-Maccarthyism. They know Roosh isn't advocating, to use one of their favourite phrases, 'literally legalising rape', but they narrative that he is offers them more political power than the truth, and, since they profit from outrage, vicious satire must be presented as truth.

At least I'd like to think they realise this, but it's more likely Lindy West was given Maya Angelou to in college than Jonathon Swift, because there's no evidence of any knowledge of literature or the pre-postmodernism craft of writing in her ignorant typing.

Also, remember, the audience for a Typist like West isn't a proactive critical thinker: her audience is most likely an overweight, depressed girl who thinks her glasses make her intelligent and her rainbow hair makes her unique. They're too busy wrapped up in the 'get outraged! share the outrage!' cycle to actually read the article and form their own critical opinion. Their religion demands a display of piety, which is typing "OMG! What the actual fuck! Can you believe this douchecanoe? What is this I can't even" into the social media megaphone of their choice, so they can hear back that, yes, they are both a good parishioner and a good person ™, and not just an obese, depressed unfuckable human being, who can only respond to the world by sharing the upsetting misery or cat picture cuteness in classic bi-polar fashion, hopefully before one of their followers does it first, and mines it for all available likes and retweets, thereby making it useless to them.

Spread the misery, ladies. Make your echo chambers as horrible a place to live as possible. It's all for the greater good. Pretend that not only do we want to legalise rape, but that our cocks would ever get hard for gelatinous blobs topped with Far Side glasses and pharmacy special hair dye.

History is cyclical. Privileged women hold power coupled with extreme social class stratification means a return of unrestrained female hysteria and moral panics. The College Rape Crisis is, once again, bored fabulist girls stirring up Witch Trials in Salem again.

A quick scan of wiki on the trials suggest four factors that lead to Mass Hysteria that are currently in vogue:

1. Isolationism - preferring to exist in an echo chamber of unchallenged political and self-opinion due to millennial dismissive-avoidant social awkwardness and the need to curate opinion in exchange for the currency of social media likes.

2. Religious extremism - Progressivism functions as the sole religion for Naïve-from-Privilege Utopian Nationalists, and its become increasingly extremist over the last 5 years.

3. False accusations - the 'listen and believe' whatever women say culture being encouraged coupled with no punishment for women making false accusations.

4. Lapses in due process - encouraged by the universities and their kangaroo courts.

It's going to get worse, before it gets better, but it's going to irreversibly damage the value of the veracity of the stories and opinions of privileged white girls once the social media bubble collapses - and the cracks are starting to appear - until a few generations of forgetting means well-meaning, sexually-inexperienced men start pedestaling pussy and start the whole cycle all again.

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(02-18-2015 10:49 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  millennial dismissive-avoidant social awkwardness

Haha, I really like this phrase. I think I'm going to borrow it. To be fair, I think that's been a young people's thing since at least the early 90's though, i.e Daria and My So Called Life.

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I think over two years I have read basically everything Roosh has written on public sites/books etc and I am still amazed when I see your interviews or read articles written by haters- they bring up the tiniest details and skewer you for them, like that David guy bringing up how you "raped" a drunk girl in Iceland, and then uses that to refer to you as "the rapist" for the rest of the column.

I mean, if you are a guy and you have enough knowledge of old posts/books from years ago, that probably suggests he has gone just as deep into the words of Roosh as myself or any of your other loyal readers... Yet the guy clearly saw nothing in your words he could relate to, and his hatred for you continues to grow.

I just can't understand if you are a male, with two testicles dangling between your legs, how one couldn't relate to or agree with anything you have written. Mind boggling...

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This quote comes to mind while reading this:

(11-13-2014 03:05 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Nothing intelligent has ever been said by someone with neon colored hair.

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(02-19-2015 12:11 AM)RougeNoir Wrote:  This quote comes to mind while reading this:

(11-13-2014 03:05 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Nothing intelligent has ever been said by someone with neon colored hair.

Yep. That's the first thing that popped into my head too.

One look at that hair and you know you're dealing with a Level 4 Attention Whore who prefers drama to not being ugly.

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(02-18-2015 08:46 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Future transsexual David Futrelle wrote about it first:
Pickup guru Roosh V: End rape by making it legal

The fatuousness of Futrelle's post was immediately clear in his response to your comment about walking through the ghetto and getting robbed:

Quote:I’m pretty sure that we already do teach “ghetto kids” — and non-“ghetto” kids — not to steal. And we put adults in prison for it.

That's the point, David. We put adults in prison for rape. We "already do teach" people not to rape every bit as much as we teach them not to steal. There are no formal classes. Normal functioning people innately know it's wrong.

You just wound up your own critique.

Nicely done.

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(02-18-2015 11:56 PM)enderilluminatus Wrote:  

Hate to say it, but if Girlwriteswhat was a feminist that would be her. Very similar face.

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(02-18-2015 11:59 PM)Deluge Wrote:  

(02-18-2015 10:49 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  millennial dismissive-avoidant social awkwardness

Haha, I really like this phrase. I think I'm going to borrow it. To be fair, I think that's been a young people's thing since at least the early 90's though, i.e Daria and My So Called Life.

Off topic, so feel free to skip over this. My mind's on fire today and churning over a lot of thoughts in my head.

I just wanted to point out the generation differences, because ironic detachment isn't the same as dismissive-avoidance, and having banged both generations of women, there are clear differences in their social, sexual and emotional behaviour. I'm restricting my viewpoint here to the middle upper class / educated women. Prole girls are always ready to fuck and marry.

Firstly, any Millennial who has wandered into this forum has wandered far off the reservation of traditional Millennial thought that any criticisms I have of their generation as a group doesn't apply to them.

Secondly, I don't think my generation was anything to write home about. We're the idiots who gave you third wave feminism and the PC craze of the early 90's that quickly died out, but seems to have been revived, so it's not a competition.

Anyway, as to the Daria / MSCL thing...

Generation X was about thinking society was lame, and that you were above it. You were suspicious of government, questioned false media narratives, and despised anything corporate. The reaction to feeling awkward and not quite fitting in was ironic detachment, some lightweight nihilism, and showing how individual you were through your superior taste in alternative music and media. There was a lot of undirected political anger channelled into slacktivist leftist causes that didn't really go anywhere.

A Gen X girl would think she was the smartest person in the room, and be already ready to loudly debate the political issues of the day, and be convinced she could fit in if she really wanted to be a conformist sheep like 'everyone else', but she would rather eat a gun than be that lame, and if anyone called her a loser, she would give them the finger, not caring. She would want a boyfriend, but one who 'got it', i.e thought everything was 'lame' too. Unless he was popular and showed interest, then this whole persona would instantly vanish. I saw many Daria's turn into Marcia Brady's for the right boy.

Being a blue pill millennial is about thinking society is sick, and that you can change it. You want to hand more power to the government to keep you from feeling uncomfortable; want to get paid by the media to sell their false narratives; and aspire to be a corporate drone and consume their bland, branded products as a signifier of superior personal taste.

The reaction to feeling awkward and not quite fitting is to remove or minimise the source of your discomfort; engage in farming approval via social media; owning branded products to signify status; and to not risk standing out from the crowd through a difference of taste or opinion, and so desire to share a collective eclectic identity via consuming the same high and low culture as everyone else.

There's a lot of carefully-directed political anger channelled into slacktivist leftist causes by political agitators that threaten to turn into fascism, but incompetence and identity politics keep derailing any true change because someone in the cause wants to grab for power by claiming to suffer greater victimisation than anyone else.

A millennial girl thinks she's the smartest girl in the room, whilst simultaneously thinking she's a lightweight, intellectual fraud, and is terrified of anyone who might show her up as a fool via debate, and would therefore would prefer the safety of a hugbox and avoid debate entirely, and, when it did arise, would immediately shut it down the moment she didn't have a valid counterargument, probably via some claim to superiority such as 'I don't have time for this'.

She believes she's popular and has no trouble fitting in - after all, she shares the same opinions and consumes the same culture as everyone else, whilst simultaneously thinking she's an unlovable loser, and is terrified that someone, somewhere might realise this and call her out on it, and would respond with some kind of snarky, positive self-affirmation statement, such as "All body shapes are beautiful", then unleash a torrent of hypocritical personal abuse at her critic.

She wants a boyfriend to act out the required role in the movie she believes she's starring in. Her self-loathing means she doesn't believe she's capable of being loved, and that she's worldly enough to know that nothing lasts and all relationships end up in disappointment, and, as such, can be combative and indifferent to male attention, seeming like she's actively pushing away any interest so her life becomes self-fulfilling prophecy. In a relationship, she's demanding and entitled, because a real man never can live up to her scripted one. In sex, she's a phoney actor, who makes poor sexual choices in the name of being perceived as 'hot' and 'sexy', and puts on a porn-worthy performance, then suffers guilt and regret when the experience doesn't match her expected fantasy of sex. Particularly that if you're a slutty whore for a guy, he will instantly respect you and want to girlfriend you up.

As such, she learns to seeks out men she knows will abandon her and disappoint her, because that's all she believes she deserves. Give the millennial girls a few more years, and they won't even seek that, because they're transitioning from fear and distrust of men into sex negativity, like the Puritans they secretly crave to be. If no-one is having sex, then everyone else will share their sexual / emotional rejection, and be as frustrated as they are.

Read any of MikeCF's attackers: they're miserable human beings. Their goal isn't to make him see their point of view. They just want him to be as unhappy as they are.

She wants to change the world out of pure selfishness: so her negatives become valued positives. As such, they're always hiding toxic abhorrence, and their constant political activism is based on the need to hide their rotten souls from public view through misdirection.

She'll treat men as lightweight entertainment and distractions for when she needs to be distracted, because she believes she isn't worthy of a relationship.

Basically, the difference between Gen X and Millennial Girls is a greater capacity for doublethink, and the direction of the loathing. The 90's girls loathed outwards, the 10's girls loathe inwards. Don't believe one word of the empowerment mantras that dribble from their mouths, because they sure as hell don't. Rawdog them, dump them, they'll think it's what they deserve and pass the bitterness on to the next man.