Post: #51

No. Here's why. Most women who rode the carousel gambled on one thing, that they can entirely detach their emotions from their previous behavior.

In the short term, they seemingly can. But in the long term, what they lose is the ability for any depth of emotion with a solid basis for those emotions to stem from.

So sure, a reformed slut CAN become relationship material, but ONLY on HER terms, NOT the man's terms. She may mask the desires, as she knows the wall approaches thus plays the role of caring, wholesome woman. But the fact is she's devoid from stable emotions with a fundamental basis. She simply can't love unconditionally, or even close to the unconditional end of the spectrum. THAT is forever gone. Lose your job, she's gone, lose your status, she's gone, cheat on her even though her life was predicated on that behavior, she's gone. It's more work to fall in love with a reformed slut than a more wholesome girl. period.

So if you wife up or LTR a reformed slut, know she has only repressed (often deeply) those sleezy ways. Some so deeply repressed they die with the yearning desires they once acted upon regularly. Broken bitches with blue pill men in LTRs and marriages is what the west has become riddled with.

Post: #52

(02-12-2015 08:42 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Post: #53

Earlier I compared a slut to a used car. I still believe this but I sort of ignored the question. Sure, I'm guessing there are cases where a chick "got it out of her system". I would still invoke the adage: one mans trash is another mans treasure. I view myself as a romantic so the red pill was a hard one to swallow. A blue pill guy doesn't mind a "reformed whore" if you will. He'd be able to fill books with reasons why she engaged in promiscuous behavior. To me? nothing beats that new car smell.

Post: #54

There's the old saying, "you can't teach an old dog new tricks", in other words once a woman has set into her whoring ways, it becomes part of who she is, while it is possible for her to "change" down the line, women usually are far less capable of evolution then men. As men we are constantly required to adapt and change, to grow as individuals, we strive for knowledge, greatness, and work on self improvement in this quest. Attractive women on the other hand usually rely solely on their two greatest assets, their looks and their pussies. Any self-improvement on their part is usually only related to maintaining their looks, but alas even the most well kept women will inevitably fade as they approach mid-30s to forties.

So the years of sluting and carousel riding becomes imprinted into their mental make up, it degrades their ability to pair-bond and form monogamous long last relationships. Women are already impulsive creatures, I think even the most newbie RVF members understand this, now add to the mix years of being a slut, cheating, jumping from cock to cock, and doing all kinds of depraved sex acts, how likely is a women going to drop these impulses and desires to pursue a virtuous relationship with a single man?

Finally I just want to laugh at all the guys who try to act like any woman who has had sex with more than 3 guys is a slut, what country do you live in Uzbekistan? Maybe if you're in a small conservative Christian town in the mid-west or south I can maybe see how you'd think this way, but in reality most attractive American women over a 6 are sluts. If you live on the coasts or in a major city or college town, I'd assume that your typical American woman that is a 7 out of 10, and is over 23 years old has had sex with at least 10 men minimum, sometimes upwards of 30+, and this only goes up exponentially every year into their twenties. If a girl is under 20 and has higher notch count than 3 guys, that might qualify her as a bit slutty, otherwise I'd be happy to find a early 20's girl with a count in the single digits. Ofcourse asking a woman her notch count is a fools errand, I learned that a long time ago.

Post: #55

(02-12-2015 04:32 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  Ofcourse asking a woman her notch count is a fools errand, I learned that a long time ago.

So how do you really know whether a girl is truly wholesome, or she's just putting on an act?

Post: #56

(02-12-2015 04:32 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  Finally I just want to laugh at all the guys who try to act like any woman who has had sex with more than 3 guys is a slut, what country do you live in Uzbekistan? Maybe if you're in a small conservative Christian town in the mid-west or south I can maybe see how you'd think this way, but in reality most attractive American women over a 6 are sluts. If you live on the coasts or in a major city or college town, I'd assume that your typical American woman that is a 7 out of 10, and is over 23 years old has had sex with at least 10 men minimum, sometimes upwards of 30+, and this only goes up exponentially every year into their twenties. If a girl is under 20 and has higher notch count than 3 guys, that might qualify her as a bit slutty, otherwise I'd be happy to find a early 20's girl with a count in the single digits. Ofcourse asking a woman her notch count is a fools errand, I learned that a long time ago.

I actually think this is fucking post of the day

You'll never know how many men she has fucked

I would add that I am not self conscious about my abilities in the bedroom so I don't give a fuck how many amateur fights she's had... she's getting in the ring with a champ.

Post: #57

^ Why are you settling for American sluts? You have the tools here to get better. If you think a girl with lots of experience is a good thing America must be your utopia.

Post: #58

My friend married his wife when she was 23. They dated like 3 years before that. She admitted recently at a party that she banged 20 guys before they started dating. And this was a girl I considered a "nice girl"when I first met her. So figure she started fucking at 14(freshman in high school) until 20. That's 20 guys in 6 years. Thats 3-4 guys a year. Can you imagine the numbers on a slutty girl? Yeah I'm sorry but I'll pass on marriage.

Post: #59

(02-12-2015 05:37 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  My friend married his wife when she was 23. They dated like 3 years before that. She admitted recently at a party that she banged 20 guys before they started dating. And this was a girl I considered a "nice girl"when I first met her. So figure she started fucking at 14(freshman in high school) until 20. That's 20 guys in 6 years. Thats 3-4 guys a year. Can you imagine the numbers on a slutty girl? Yeah I'm sorry but I'll pass on marriage.

Damn. Parlay, I know and understand that these hoes ain't loyal. But damn, that's just depressing.....

Post: #60

(02-12-2015 05:37 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  That's 20 guys in 6 years. Thats 3-4 guys a year. Can you imagine the numbers on a slutty girl? Yeah I'm sorry but I'll pass on marriage.

Lol. Met a girl this summer just turned 20. She had banged 19 guys (probably a lie, could be higher) and had two threesomes with two different sets of guys. One she was passed out on drugs.

She had no piercings, no tatts, dressed like a nice girl for the most part. Cooked for me early on. On our first date she wore heels and dressed a bit sexier, nothing crazy. I thought she maybe fucked 6 or 7 guys tops.

She had the tiniest bit of slut eyes which I recognize more in retrospect, which I am sure will grow over time.

There was another 20 year old I just banged where she listed in her profile she had a threesome. I am sure she has banged a ton of guys as well. No tatts no piercings, dad is a doctor, is pre-med, wants to become a nurse or doctor. Really close knit with her family. Good girl on paper and in person if you first met her.

Another 20 year old I banged I learned she had lost her virginity earlier that year and within a 10 month span she had 5 dicks.

A girl that just turned 21 awhile back (I took her to her first bar) was a huge bookworm librarian type, Chinese-American, strict parents, no piercings, no tatts. Had some color streaks in her hair now and then. I thought for a year while I was banging her on and off I was guy number 2.... turns out the summer I met her she had banged 3 guys before me in the previous 2 months. I was number 4 that summer lol.

Good looking girls in colleges that have social scenes get banged a lot.

Gotta go for a girl that lives at home and commutes to college or an all girls college or something like that lol.

Post: #61

(02-12-2015 05:37 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  My friend married his wife when she was 23. They dated like 3 years before that. She admitted recently at a party that she banged 20 guys before they started dating. And this was a girl I considered a "nice girl"when I first met her. So figure she started fucking at 14(freshman in high school) until 20. That's 20 guys in 6 years. Thats 3-4 guys a year. Can you imagine the numbers on a slutty girl? Yeah I'm sorry but I'll pass on marriage.

x3 minimum and you've got a girl whose rode 60 dicks.

Let's use this nice girl of 20 as the baseline for a girl you want to marry ? OR LTR ?

How many guys here would be fine with that ? How many would say fuck that and never get married OR LTR?

I'm willing to bet some wont care she had 20 dicks (especially some guys who are in the high double digits).

What's the definition of a slut ?

1-5 dicks ?
10 ?
20 ?
A virgin who likes anal ?
A virgin who gives a lot of head ? (Glory days of high school)

What's the definition of "reformed" ?

In this day and age how many girls do you know that are "nice" or super good girls or a virgin ?

Chances are pretty slim the old you get my friends.

Post: #62

(02-12-2015 06:19 PM)kaotic Wrote:  x3 minimum and you've got a girl whose rode 60 dicks.

...
What's the definition of a slut ?

Yeah - I was even recently a bit taken by surprise with some girls I met. A girl I assumed to have fucked 3-5 had probably banged 20-40.

When she tells me a number I multiply at least by 3 - with some by 5 or even 10.

It's simply easier to assume that every girl is a slut, so that you are favorably surprised if you find one who is not.

Also - what is the definition of a slut really when 99,99% of women would fuck their favorite celebrity if husband/boyfriend is not around?

A Red Pill aware man simply goes with the flow - even when you get into a LTR, have children with a woman, God-forbid marry, even then you are always aware that the fickle nature of women can end that bond or family. A Red Pill aware man keeps his Game sharp and is willing to walk away and continue spinning Plates.

Post: #63

If a girl has a notch count of 3 but they were all long term relationships I don't think that qualifies her a slut.

I think the real metric is one night stands: any girl who has had a one night stand is a slut. A girl with divorced biological parents that lives on her own and has had one night stands is the epitome of slut and beyond repair in my book.

Post: #64

I cut them loose when they stop giving me what I want. I was seeing this one girl a while back. She would always turn me down for sex when I'd booty call her. But out of nowhere she'd text me to come over for sex. It was usually to spite her boyfriend after a fight. Not that I mind being invited over for sex it's just that I wanna fuck when I wanna fuck. It just got old and wasn't worth the effort to maintain that type of relationship.

Post: #65

(02-11-2015 08:48 PM)monster Wrote:  I think when they have kids.

Instead of seeking pleasure and validation, they turn much of that drive toward maintaining their children, and that becomes their "higher purpose."

This isn't applicable to trashy people who produce kid after kid, but your regular middle class girl from a decent family.

Until her youngest kid gets into school and then she's asking "now what"?

Demographic 36-44, married, 2-3 kids, youngest is 5 or 6 years old. Goes on Ashley Madison or maybe Craigslist and posts something like "I don't want to change my life, just need a little fun". She values family enough that she's probably not going to frivorce unless she meets guy who really has it, but she'll fuck around for a few years with a bunch of random good enoughs.

Probably she'll grow out of it when the wall really hits hard and even giving away free sex can't catch a guy's interest.

Post: #66

(02-12-2015 05:37 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  She admitted recently at a party that she banged 20 guys before they started dating.

IRON LAW INVOKED:

Damn. She banged at least 40 dudes before she hit 20? That's some high grade sluttery right there. I'm sure a few trains helped run those numbers higher though.

Post: #67

there are billions of women on the planet. easier to find one that is not a massive whore

Post: #68

(02-13-2015 02:29 AM)stevoaus Wrote:  there are billions of women on the planet. easier to find one that is not a massive whore

Trust me, on the westcoast of the U.S. that is easier said than done. Even if she acts like a "good girl", and all signs point to her not being a slut, you never know the dark truth lurking beneath the surface...

Post: #69

Heh, story time. A girl who recently shares an apartment with my LTR because "she broke up with her BF" after a seven year relationship. She was having guys over all the time. Like 5 different guys in a months time (not talking about the nights she might be at their place getting fucked).
She stayed there for 5 weeks now, and is moving out again "to go back to her boyfriend". The poor sob doesn't know what she did in between, she might have easily upped her notch count with ten dicks during their "short breakup".

Post: #70

The eternal question. Who came first, the player or the slut?

Post: #71

Obviously sluts....then they figured out they could make a living being one --->prostitution- the oldest profession known to man

Post: #72

To expand on this, the vast majority of men equate access to sex with a woman with controlling a woman. They are no where close to the same thing. Controlling a woman takes much longer to to do than to have sex with her. It often involves devaluing her by refusing to have sex with her in the same timeframe, and in the same way that the majority of other men usually do.

(02-11-2015 07:30 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Chances are the average player is not dealing with a chick who actually has a clinical problem. The average player's problem is that he wants to control her and hasn't attempted to understand how this particular chick's mind works.

WIA

Post: #73

(02-13-2015 04:04 AM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 02:29 AM)stevoaus Wrote:  there are billions of women on the planet. easier to find one that is not a massive whore

Trust me, on the westcoast of the U.S. that is easier said than done. Even if she acts like a "good girl", and all signs point to her not being a slut, you never know the dark truth lurking beneath the surface...

So goddamn true my friend. you just know out here, especially in SoCal, lotta players, lotta sluts. A few nice girls.

Post: #74

My opinion?

"With God all things are possible".

So yes, but in practice it takes Jesus to reform a slut.

Post: #75

I don't think dick count is fully indicative of slut or not. Rather, dick count serves as a manifestation of her character.

Slut is a mentality, like left or right wing political stance. It's based on a plethora of influences over the period of her upbringing.

Trying to reform a slut is like trying to change someones worldview, except you're not allowed to use logic and reason.