Post: #226

(03-15-2018 08:42 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  So a decade of eyewitness testimony plus her parents plus her brother plus all statistics known to man plus travel advisory warnings are less trustworthy than me doing a tourist trek through the safe parts for a week where everyone smiles and waves at me because I have money?

"Wow, honey. There are no death squads and narco gangs to be seen. You're a fucking liar! I bet those bullet wounds your cousin has are just thirty caliber cigar burns."

And before you suggest that I go through the parts where she lived, not even her parents go there when they visit because they're not batshit crazy enough.

Thanks, kosko. I'll pass.

Yes, in fact, it does have weight.

No amount of stories and context compared to the real deal. For example, when I returned back to Africa from my time as a boy the number of stories and details did not measure of to the real deal. The experience isn't comparable from second-hand accounts until you see it for yourself. There are textures and a weight in the air that is not the same. It will change you and will reveal a much deeper side of your wife you may not have known prior. You can read all the reports you want and listen to her parents but it won't be the same. Take this from a person who grew up in the west, (Communist Canada has been my environment for much of my life that I can remember), but of a foreign heritage, the real experience was profoundly different.

Now, mind you, if it is very chaotic there to the point, that even she can't even go back, I am not advising one puts themselves in danger of course. For example, I have many El Savadlorean friends who cant go back because it is just too crazy. A good friend of mine, his family all can't go back as it was too fucked up. In that case, I do understand but he still understands the importance of having to experience the real deal at some point.

I am not advocating diving in just for the sake of it, my point is that you will never understand the detail and texture of a nation or culture until you are immersed in it first hand.

My view is that if you have a skin in it, especially when children come into the mix, it is your decision of how much shared culture there will be between your wife and your own backgrounds. Typically the wife is absorbed into the husband sphere and culture but there will eventually come a time when your children may feel a void where they can't define what and where half of them derives from. If you don't want that burden on your children then it is best you know from a first-hand account of what exactly their other half derives from.

Post: #227

(03-15-2018 10:10 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(03-13-2018 10:56 PM)kosko Wrote:  You can tell how the temperature of the forum has shifted over the years in this very forum.

From what I remember it used to be giving the Chinese guy props and just disputing how hot his girl was... Fast forward now... and dudes having cold sweats at some idea that millions of Chinese men booking one way tickets to EE... Get a grip.

Until the manosphere as a whole learns to stop shitting on other men and being irrationally clannish and racist, we can forget about defeating feminism and having feminine local women.

Maybe Icarus could have worded his post a little bit differently.

However, I would TravelerKai or any other high repped minority member like Cobra to tell me and other ethnic Europeans why we should not start feeling clannish after reading articles like the one linked below that was posted by the forums creator from October 2017, given the fact that 9 times out of 10 when whites mix with other races the baby will come out non-white and damn sure will identify as non-white in today's environment:

http://www.rooshv.com/kill-whitey

Post: #228

(03-15-2018 08:42 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  So a decade of eyewitness testimony plus her parents plus her brother plus all statistics known to man plus travel advisory warnings are less trustworthy than me doing a tourist trek through the safe parts for a week where everyone smiles and waves at me because I have money?

"Wow, honey. There are no death squads and narco gangs to be seen. You're a fucking liar! I bet those bullet wounds your cousin has are just thirty caliber cigar burns."

And before you suggest that I go through the parts where she lived, not even her parents go there when they visit because they're not batshit crazy enough.

Thanks, kosko. I'll pass.

Serious question. Why did you get into a ltr with a latina to begin with? All these cultural attributes are apparent from the start.

Why not find a nice Sheila to mate with and form white babies?

Post: #229

Still waiting on Atlanta Man to describe that hot young tight white European pussy he wrecks - but he's probably busy with Spring Break....

Lots of projection of insecurities on here, especially dudes talking about women, but avoid the game forum like the plague.

Some of this shit is out of your control, and you can white knight for your females all you want, that's fine.

This reminds me of that reddit cartoon where a white dude get pissed at an interracial relationship - but is stoked about banging an asian woman and having a hapa kid.



This dude put in work, swooped on girls, and doesn't give a fuck what you think.

Post: #230

(03-15-2018 10:40 AM)GoingTheDistance Wrote:  

(03-15-2018 10:10 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(03-13-2018 10:56 PM)kosko Wrote:  You can tell how the temperature of the forum has shifted over the years in this very forum.

From what I remember it used to be giving the Chinese guy props and just disputing how hot his girl was... Fast forward now... and dudes having cold sweats at some idea that millions of Chinese men booking one way tickets to EE... Get a grip.

Until the manosphere as a whole learns to stop shitting on other men and being irrationally clannish and racist, we can forget about defeating feminism and having feminine local women.

Maybe Icarus could have worded his post a little bit differently.

However, I would TravelerKai or any other high repped minority member like Cobra to tell me and other ethnic Europeans why we should not start feeling clannish after reading articles like the one linked below that was posted by the forums creator from October 2017, given the fact that 9 times out of 10 when whites mix with other races the baby will come out non-white and damn sure will identify as non-white in today's environment:

http://www.rooshv.com/kill-whitey

You totally missed Roosh's context for why he wrote that article.

He is talking about the war against white males, who is behind it, their agenda, etc..

Did that Chinese guy marrying that Ukranian participate or is involved in that war? No. Are the other non-white guys on this forum involved in this war? No.

The perps he is talking about are the Western SJWs and the Feminists. They are the ones that want white guys to hate their own skin. No one here supports that shit. No other normal people in the world from normalized societies likely support that either, and you cannot blame them when you have no proof of that. How the fuck are you going to be clannish in a fallen system of Sodom and Gommorah? Did Lot and his daughters claim their city to not only be gay but in line with what they believe? No they covered their assholes and got the fuck out of dodge like God instructed them to do. RVF is our refuge from systematic social dysfunction in the same vein.

If you think becoming more clannish even amongst your brothers here, is the solution to Roosh's article, log out and send Roosh a request for a ban. Then proceed to the nearest Daily Stormer website and register there. You do not need us here and we are not going to help you develop your clannish agenda here. I would say this to any Black Nationalist and Muslim trolls like Mikado as well, so don't even think about trying to associate me or even the others to those elements.

Our clan is loyal to all men as a unique clan itself.

Post: #231

This thread isn't going in the direction Icarus was hoping for.

Post: #232

(03-13-2018 04:39 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Is that diagram right?
Japan is 4.3''?
That... explains a few things.

Last night I went to a local bar with some friends for trivia night. Part of the fun is listening to some of the team names. There was a mixed group of about 5 a couple tables away that included two Asian guys. Their team name was "2 Inches of Pain"

Post: #233

(03-15-2018 10:42 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(03-15-2018 08:42 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  So a decade of eyewitness testimony plus her parents plus her brother plus all statistics known to man plus travel advisory warnings are less trustworthy than me doing a tourist trek through the safe parts for a week where everyone smiles and waves at me because I have money?

"Wow, honey. There are no death squads and narco gangs to be seen. You're a fucking liar! I bet those bullet wounds your cousin has are just thirty caliber cigar burns."

And before you suggest that I go through the parts where she lived, not even her parents go there when they visit because they're not batshit crazy enough.

Thanks, kosko. I'll pass.

Serious question. Why did you get into a ltr with a latina to begin with? All these cultural attributes are apparent from the start.

Why not find a nice Sheila to mate with and form white babies?

Sometimes an NFL coach won't draft to fill a position, he'll just take the best player available on the draft board. Sometimes that solves all other issues, one way or another. Some people are so good, it's hard to go wrong with them.

Post: #234

(03-15-2018 11:19 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(03-13-2018 04:39 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Is that diagram right?
Japan is 4.3''?
That... explains a few things.

Last night I went to a local bar with some friends for trivia night. Part of the fun is listening to some of the team names. There was a mixed group of about 5 a couple tables away that included two Asian guys. Their team name was "2 Inches of Pain"

I don't know about this hypothetical table of asian dudes but to be honest stuff like this can be just as easily disproven. I am fully willing to provide myself as a utility measuring standard as long as you provide the recipient wiling to measure the oral circumference and length in the female form of a girlfriend, wife, daughter, sister, mother, or other legally aged female individual. Asian Alfredo sauce included in the deal.

Post: #235

(03-15-2018 11:26 AM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(03-15-2018 10:42 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(03-15-2018 08:42 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  So a decade of eyewitness testimony plus her parents plus her brother plus all statistics known to man plus travel advisory warnings are less trustworthy than me doing a tourist trek through the safe parts for a week where everyone smiles and waves at me because I have money?

"Wow, honey. There are no death squads and narco gangs to be seen. You're a fucking liar! I bet those bullet wounds your cousin has are just thirty caliber cigar burns."

And before you suggest that I go through the parts where she lived, not even her parents go there when they visit because they're not batshit crazy enough.

Thanks, kosko. I'll pass.

Serious question. Why did you get into a ltr with a latina to begin with? All these cultural attributes are apparent from the start.

Why not find a nice Sheila to mate with and form white babies?

Sometimes an NFL coach won't draft to fill a position, he'll just take the best player available on the draft board. Sometimes that solves all other issues, one way or another. Some people are so good, it's hard to go wrong with them.

An alternate interpretation from the sports balls analogy is that some guys are just too tired and weak to do anything else. Then complain when things don't go as anticipated.

I don't actually disagree with that analogy. Sounds about right.

Post: #236

I think that you guys should give it a rest with piling in on Icarus.

Sure - his comment should be shamed, but you have to keep in mind that White populations are under constant barrage of anti-White commercials, anti-White Hollywood, anti-White politics and even anti-White academia.

Uganda is having a hissy-fit over 50.000 Chinese men some marrying black women. It is true that the demographics of some countries are simply far more superior while all the white countries are set to be wiped out and their citizenships are being distributed like candy to any 59-IQ immigrant who then continues to scream racism against the native population.

Sure - we should not be hung up about it here, but let's see the world for what it is in our times.

Post: #237

(03-15-2018 11:45 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(03-15-2018 11:19 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(03-13-2018 04:39 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Is that diagram right?
Japan is 4.3''?
That... explains a few things.

Last night I went to a local bar with some friends for trivia night. Part of the fun is listening to some of the team names. There was a mixed group of about 5 a couple tables away that included two Asian guys. Their team name was "2 Inches of Pain"

I don't know about this hypothetical table of asian dudes but to be honest stuff like this can be just as easily disproven. I am fully willing to provide myself as a utility measuring standard as long as you provide the recipient wiling to measure the oral circumference in the female form of a daughter, sister, mother, or other legally aged female individual.

They chose their team name...not me. Take it up with them.

I can assure you that I personally give <0 fucks as to the veracity of other dudes' phalluses dimensions being fact or fallacy.

Other funny team names I remember from last night

"Dads Dont Pull Out"

"Cunning Linguists"

"Quiz On Your Face"

"Steven Hawkings ADA Stairway To Heaven"

"Caucasian Panthers"

Post: #238

^^Sounds like a group of guys I'd fucking drink with haha

Post: #239

TravelerKai, don't insinuate that I want to go to white nationalists websites when I don't. For the record, I asked whether or not TravlerKai honestly thought that the Roosh article I linked wouldn't make whites feel more clannish to point out where some of these clannish ideas are coming from. TravelerKai is kidding himself if he doesn't think whites will not feel more clannish after reading that article, regardless of the ultimate message of it, even if on a subconscious level.

If they're discussed on Roosh's websites, they will probably be discussed on here too no matter if posters like Cobra want to patrol the forum for wrongspeak or not.

In regards to the original topic, on the individual level good for the Chinese guy, I hope him and his wife are happy.

Post: #240

Hehe - Caucasian Panthers...

Seriously funny stuff.

I once had a double date with a black buddy of mine. My date came fresh off the boat off Nigeria and he of course had a white local girl in tow. (I don't think that he ever even fucked a black girl)

It was hilarious to see the faces of the girls at first. We were like some vanilla-chocolate pairing. But since we were so relaxed, then it was a non-issue.

Post: #241

(03-15-2018 12:11 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(03-15-2018 11:45 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(03-15-2018 11:19 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(03-13-2018 04:39 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Is that diagram right?
Japan is 4.3''?
That... explains a few things.

Last night I went to a local bar with some friends for trivia night. Part of the fun is listening to some of the team names. There was a mixed group of about 5 a couple tables away that included two Asian guys. Their team name was "2 Inches of Pain"

I don't know about this hypothetical table of asian dudes but to be honest stuff like this can be just as easily disproven. I am fully willing to provide myself as a utility measuring standard as long as you provide the recipient wiling to measure the oral circumference in the female form of a daughter, sister, mother, or other legally aged female individual.

They chose their team name...not me. Take it up with them.

I can assure you that I personally give <0 fucks as to the veracity of other dudes' phalluses dimensions being fact or fallacy.

Other funny team names I remember from last night

"Dads Dont Pull Out"

"Cunning Linguists"

"Quiz On Your Face"

"Steven Hawkings ADA Stairway To Heaven"

"Caucasian Panthers"

Oh I know. I'm not kidding either. Only requirement I have is that it's a female relative legal or by blood and the mouth for the measuring.

Thems the rules.

Post: #242

(03-15-2018 12:25 PM)GoingTheDistance Wrote:  If they're discussed on Roosh's websites, they will probably be discussed on here too no matter if posters like Cobra want to patrol the forum for wrongspeak or not.

Big difference between wrong speak and white soy boys crying about muh womyn's being taken away by other races.

If you're going to use terms like mud shark and slant eyes in your posts because of your insecurities and lack of game - then yeah you're just a WRT who spends too much time on forums on not in real life. (This is not a descriptor of you, I'm explaining the difference and what Cobra is calling out)

If you're to discus how your race is going to outpopulated by other races, that's fine, we're adult men, we can have this discussion (yes it might be hotly debated but still valid)

Look I get the whole tribalism, ethnocentric, worries some may have, I'm not even white and I get that.

But you're absolutely right if Roosh talks about it on his website then it's fine to talk about on the forum. (I don't think Cobra disagrees with this).

Post: #243

(03-15-2018 12:40 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Big difference between wrong speak and white soy boys crying about muh womyn's being taken away by other races.

If you're going to use terms like mud shark and slant eyes in your posts because of your insecurities and lack of game - then yeah you're just a WRT who spends too much time on forums on not in real life. (This is not a descriptor of you, I'm explaining the difference and what Cobra is calling out)

If you're to discus how your race is going to outpopulated by other races, that's fine, we're adult men, we can have this discussion (yes it might be hotly debated but still valid)

Look I get the whole tribalism, ethnocentric, worries some may have, I'm not even white and I get that.

But you're absolutely right if Roosh talks about it on his website then it's fine to talk about on the forum. (I don't think Cobra disagrees with this).

That's exactly the right attitude.

Post: #244

(03-15-2018 12:40 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(03-15-2018 12:25 PM)GoingTheDistance Wrote:  If they're discussed on Roosh's websites, they will probably be discussed on here too no matter if posters like Cobra want to patrol the forum for wrongspeak or not.

Big difference between wrong speak and white soy boys crying about muh womyn's being taken away by other races.

If you're going to use terms like mud shark and slant eyes in your posts because of your insecurities and lack of game - then yeah you're just a WRT who spends too much time on forums on not in real life. (This is not a descriptor of you, I'm explaining the difference and what Cobra is calling out)

If you're to discus how your race is going to outpopulated by other races, that's fine, we're adult men, we can have this discussion (yes it might be hotly debated but still valid)

Look I get the whole tribalism, ethnocentric, worries some may have, I'm not even white and I get that.

But you're absolutely right if Roosh talks about it on his website then it's fine to talk about on the forum. (I don't think Cobra disagrees with this).

Well said. I agree. I guess I interpreted what Cobra said in the wrong way, but you explained it to me very clearly just now Kaotic. I guess that's one thing about the internet, it's pretty easy to take somebody the wrong way. Conversations usually go a lot differently in real life.

Sorry for that comment Cobra, I was wrong.

Post: #245

(03-15-2018 12:25 PM)kaotic Wrote:  ^^Sounds like a group of guys I'd fucking drink with haha

Its fun. A lot of talent there too. I banged a waitress there few years ago. She served our table last night. Got a free round

True story...Spring of 2016 I was at the same place for the same trivia night with a mixed group of guys and girls. Our team name that night, per my suggestion, was

"President Trump, Get Used To It Bitches".

It got a few groans and chuckles every time the scores were read out.

Who's laughing now?

Post: #246

(03-15-2018 10:42 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(03-15-2018 08:42 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  ...

Serious question. Why did you get into a ltr with a latina to begin with? All these cultural attributes are apparent from the start.

Why not find a nice Sheila to mate with and form white babies?

Although my initial post before that one made the answer to that question clear, I'll reframe and expand.

Nobody is obligated to calcify their world view in their mid 20's and then never change how they perceive culture, race and politics for ever and ever and ever. Case in point, it was my mixed race/culture marriage that opened my eyes to the reality of these things. If I married a white woman then my politics might never have shifted because the effect of self affirmation bias and progressive propaganda combined with a lack of outside evidence would have kept me in the dark.

I'm still glad my wife and I met and married. I have no regrets on that front since her similarities to the rest of her people are skin deep. She's very smart, empathic, hard working and loyal, in stark contrast to many of the other members of her "community" I've met outside of her father's bloodline. I never would have been interested in any of those cunts, much less married one. The vast majority of them lie, cheat, steal and gossip at a far higher rates than even white Western cunts and they only maintain an illusion of being a traditional, conservative culture by going to church once a week before pretending that they're not fucking each other's wives and husbands every chance they get. The only thing that keeps most of their women in line is a liberal helping of domestic violence, which appears to be so common as to have become a cliché wherever her people exist in the world. The only men not being cheated on or treated like dirt are the ones slapping their wives and/or girlfriends around.

This is why I suspect the heart of progressivism in regards to race and culture rests on most white people having never actually immersed themselves in foreign cultures to the point where they become a fly on the wall and see how things really work among the different peoples of the world. I, for instance, have no real opinion on what Russian or Chinese people are really like. The ways, means and motives of Japanese people are a mystery to me. But once you've broken your rose coloured glasses on the #AllCulturesAreEqual nonsense you begin to realise that your own culture really is special and worth protecting.

That doesn't mean I divorce my wife, who I love and cherish, and kick my kids out before looking for a white woman for a do-over of my whole life.

It just changes whether or not I'm going to shill for progressive politics merely because I happen to have a non-white wife. And in that regard I'm not going to shy away from stating what I believe to be a pretty obvious fact these days. That Australia will cease to be Australia when it becomes majority Chinese no matter what flag is flying or what anthem is sung, just like every European country will cease to fundamentally exist when someone asks you "picture a Frenchman in your head" and you don't know whether to conjure up the image of a white man in a stripy shirt and a beret holding a baguette or a black man in muslim garb ordering baklava.

Individual instances of race-mixing are a statistical irrelevance, which is why I can still be happy for guys going to SEA to find wives or for this Chinese guy hooking a Ukrainian girl. It simply doesn't matter in the grander scheme of things. But that doesn't automatically imply that we should toss out borders or laugh at the idea that the peoples of a nation have the right to retain their cultural legacy, and no, a rodeo run entirely by Chinese LARPers doesn't count in that regard.

Post: #247

(03-15-2018 10:13 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  On the rare times I visit /pol or 4/8chan in general it's full of white nerd stroking it towards korean pop stars or other such nonsense. Why is it that white nationalism gloms on so hard to asian "purity" when it comes to pop celebrity or just daily life?

Bad eyesight?


Seriously though. 4chan is a diverse site, and even /pol/ exaggerates and LARPs.

Post: #248

(03-15-2018 06:37 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Individual instances of race-mixing are a statistical irrelevance, which is why I can still be happy for guys going to SEA to find wives or for this Chinese guy hooking a Ukrainian girl. It simply doesn't matter in the grander scheme of things. But that doesn't automatically imply that we should toss out borders or laugh at the idea that the peoples of a nation have the right to retain their cultural legacy, and no, a rodeo run entirely by Chinese LARPers doesn't count in that regard.

How is it a statistical irrelevance? I honestly do not want to see the white race die out in north America but the black comedy side of me can't help but observe how hilarious the lemming march is towards the cliff. Even second generation immigrants native born children of immigrants tend to outbreed whites.

From a completely anecdotal point of view I see this happening too. All my minority friends in the U.S. have been married since their late 20-30's and have kids. The white friends..including family friends i've known my entire life who are spread across the nation maybe only a third have kids. This isn't unusual I see a general malaise when it comes to white birth rates nationwide. A lot of single white male friends I have aren't soys but they also really aren't too into breeding even when many are in ltr with white women.

I don't know much about Australia side from the small overall population and low density. I like most Aussies i've met in asia on a personal level but I don't think you guys really and truly understand the cultural dynamics in the U.S.

Post: #249

(03-15-2018 10:04 PM)Transsimian Wrote:  

(03-15-2018 10:13 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  On the rare times I visit /pol or 4/8chan in general it's full of white nerd stroking it towards korean pop stars or other such nonsense. Why is it that white nationalism gloms on so hard to asian "purity" when it comes to pop celebrity or just daily life?

Bad eyesight?


Seriously though. 4chan is a diverse site, and even /pol/ exaggerates and LARPs.

I find it hilarious to be honest. There's hardened race warrior promotion of white nationalism along with tough guy exto talk but which also has a deep fetish of traditional women of other races and cultures.

A sure fire winning recipe to revitalize white demographic decline.


edit:

As I said before all this white nationalism circle jerking is meaningless unless you reform white western women first. That's a gigantic hurdle to overcome.

Post: #250

< The Japanese similarly to White nations react to economics. It's not only feminism that is wreaking havoc.

The first step would be to remove the traitors at the top who destroy the Western nations and also finance feminism. The women react to that rather quickly. When Gender studies and feminist thinking are all ridiculed, debunked and laughed out of media, academia, Hollywood and public thinking, then it's super-easy to "control women".

Muslims in the West for example a 80% dependent on social welfare, all other races except for North Asians also depend on welfare much much more. Of course they don't care if they pump out 4 kids while being on social security. Only Whites and North Asians call this irresponsible. Everyone is outbreeding Whites and North Asians, heck even Jews were it not for the Orthodox ones - were it not for them, then the Jewish tribe would be contracting fast.