Post: #4126

no emotional baggage in approaches: check

Parasite in the back of my head (who I am vs who I should be) actually gives me the confidence to approach: what would black tony stark aka chocolate 007 do?

Self image: check I know I'm awkward and different as fuck. Me and my homie view it as a badge of honor. Two confident black guys that have a white glazing due to suburbia. I own that shit

Who you are with people you don't know, people you know, and when your alone: Check. When I got to college I remember this girl teammate asking me if I was drunk during the middle of the day. I told her no and she responded "you're always like this?!" Yes bitch. Im awesome all the time

Self amusement and empathy: Agree and disagree. I think you use self amusement to amuse yourself first and it ends up amusing others because the wish they had the confidence to do what they want to do.

nelson mandella head lmao

One night stand flakes is where Im at sort of. I fucked my last two girls to orgasm on a snl. They texted me wanting to see me again and then flaked and radio silence. Shit sucks man. **he says let it go. I had no idea that could be throwing my shit off**

lol "were lesbians fuck off". I fire back a "me too, see we already have something in common."

That child support line holy shit. Thats some Kobe Bryant MJ shit right there. Straight fuego



Shit I had one of those connection moments in december. I caught fire that month after this and went for 6 lays with 2 weeks left to go. Number 7 was different: sweet, loved kids/works at a foster kids type thing, very sweet, didn't have a hoe glazing despite being a hoe. then radio silence.

Trauma Energy Story: In college at the NCAA Championships a coach of a separate sport from mine gave this speech about "super powers." He spoke about how when you feel that nervous energy you have two choices to accept it or let it destroy you. He told us how when he was in the Olympic final leading the competitors with two rounds left he was unable to accept this energy and it destroyed him. He blew a round and fell from 1st to 7th. This is my first Championship so I'm like "what the fuck is coach of sport X talking about super powers for lol"



So we're at the competition and ALL of my teammates are sucking ass. Most of them placed in the top 8 the year before and they are blowing dick. Then my training buddy steps up in the heat before me and SHITS the bed....FUCK. Im getting nervous as shit now, I feel like I'm about to jump out of my skin man. Its weird because I can literally feel this energy flowing through me--not joking. And in that moment I accepted it. Ended up qualifying first and placed second overall. Trauma energy #RNS


Shit like this is why I love the forum: Allows you to label/identify stuff do naturally, analyze your proficiency or lack there of, and see the path to taking it to the next level. Great post WIA

Post: #4127

WIA is right regarding the persistence. Game is tricky, a `feel`and experience comes into play when one knows when to just bail from a situation that isn`t going anywhere. Game has to reward the guy playing..some guys are playing the game but bored by the ordeal of the whole situation. They have to rewire their mindset regarding it.

I went out last night by the way, solo as almost normal. I went to a place that had music that I like as I cannot game in an environment where the music is crummy to my ears. In all my years in going out, this is something that I cannot get over. I posted up and danced, scanning the floor. I thought about a lot of the concepts broken down in here and I spoke to a lizard that looked decent off the drop, just trying to loosen up my lyrics.

Bottom story short, I landed a lizard near the bar area. Walked her to her car. Decided not to push overly to go home with her as she was quite heavily buzzed and I didn`t want to incur any Next Morning Regrets. Felt her up in the road and in the parking lot.

I need to work on my instant closer game (SNL game) but that will require more of a wider sweep of my net to pick out the lizards that are ready to go. I also may need to try other types of club. This was a laidback lounge with music that I like, with patronage consisting of 99 percent black, 0.5 percent hispanic (fat) and white (also fat). I am happy with my efforts though. I am thinking more when I am hitting the streets, not just working off of emotion and stimulations from round buttocks.

Post: #4128

(01-22-2017 04:25 PM)the high Wrote:  That RSD Madison guy is okay but I'd like to see him exhibit a bit more range. Instead of approaching nothing but White club rats how about you go to the club on hip-hop night and approach some sistas? Or even some Asians. Even if he has no interest in Black women (which I suspect) it'd be nice to show that he can adjust his game, even if it's just to expand his brand.

YOU GOT BEEF WITH WHITE CLUB RATS!??!

(01-22-2017 05:18 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  1) what is massive amount

2) "Unless this was a girl I truly wanted and was envisioning a future with for more than just sex, I will not play along."

How would you know this without spending a lot of time with a chick?



3) game isn't for the yes girls, the green lights.

It's for the yellow and red lights.

The whole idea of game is getting the chick to do what you want her to do. But that doesn't mean you always persist through everything.

WIA

Live footage of WIA in these streets

(01-22-2017 05:45 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  WIA - you know you are my boy.

I call BS on that video, the general vibe seems off to me.

I know exactly where that guy is gaming in Toronto.

The video reminds me of Justin Wayne, I think his are more believable. Although, I have heard he is a fraud as well.

It may be BS but by my account it works. There were two girls on Friday night one of them had RBF in overdrive when I walked up to introduce myself--Im talking arms folded soulless look type shit. So I said "ooooo I'll talk to your friend" started chatting her up and shit went smoothly. Was texting her today setting up plans and she said that she was actually pissed when I started talking to her.

That night after bars closed I probably approached 5 groups of girls. Three of those approaches gave me their numbers, two responded, got a date (knock on wood) with one. In all my approaches I just stopped them on the street and started chatting them up with no emotional baggage.

(01-22-2017 05:50 PM)Moma Wrote:  I need to work on my instant closer game (SNL game) but that will require more of a wider sweep of my net to pick out the lizards that are ready to go. I also may need to try other types of club. This was a laidback lounge with music that I like, with patronage consisting of 99 percent black, 0.5 percent hispanic (fat) and white (also fat). I am happy with my efforts though. I am thinking more when I am hitting the streets, not just working off of emotion and stimulations from round buttocks.

My go to is to ask them if the want to go eat some cake if a lot of drinking as been involved. I feel like being serious about eating cake is so off base, random, and weird that they almost have to take it seriously even though they know the implications.

Post: #4129

Back in my club and drinking days I simply kept the crib and car stocked with drinks. Always made up some shit about an after-hours party with a spades tournament I was headed to, lol.

Sadly, (in retrospect) I would frequent this Native American bar right around 1:30am to catch drunk Indian bishes spilling out of the club. They don't do well with alcohol (hence the American land grab). I'd keep an unopened thirty-pack of beer in the backseat of my convertible for everyone to see. It was like attracting ants to spilled soda. I've never not pulled a snl from that spot.

Point is, you just gotta be creative lol

Post: #4130

(01-22-2017 05:46 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  Suggested to chick she come to hang out, said she "wouldn't want to hang out at my apartment out of respect for her boyfriend" but wants to hang anyway. Hot, thick 18 year old Latina. Found out she's had Bf for 2 1/2 years.

How to bang a chick with a boyfriend gents? She's cool enough to not "next." Do I just wait till they break up? Or can I be sinister and slide in.
Going through this thread has offered no real helpful advice /thread-10161...pid1334546

1) you need more chicks in your pipeline. Anytime you're thinking deeply about a chick you're not in front of - it's usually a pipeline problem. Agonizing over texts, trying to get strategic next time you see a broad - too much energy for something not within your grasp.

2) Generally you need to get her out, have a good time, and you can take active steps to destroy the boyfriend in her mind (you do this by compliment his good provider traits, his reliability, and play up your bad traits). But chances are good that you don't need to mention that/do any of that if she agrees to meet. If she agrees to meet some strange man when she has a man at home, - her actions say that she's down to cheat - but she doesn't want to take any responsibility for it.

As game experiences go, it's a bit of a thrill to fuck a chick behind her boyfriend's back - but it's even more doomed than any other set up. (marriages are doomed, LTR's are doomed, FB's are doomed) -

Plus there are obvious downsides
- how you feel doing something despicable - if you hate yourself, or worse - you feel nothing
- how she feels - guilty
- her moves - she might be trying to swing to the next higher dick on the ladder.
- what you learn about girls who are more than willing to spread their legs for a smooth talker
- social impact to you and her
- a guy waiting for you with a pistol

The upsides?
- sex
- the thrill of forbidden sex
- you learn more game - you're basically going to give this chick a thrill that she's really looking for - and that's useful - because you give thrills out and get pussy in return.

WIA

Post: #4131

(01-22-2017 06:41 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  Back in my club and drinking days I simply kept the crib and car stocked with drinks. Always made up some shit about an after-hours party with a spades tournament I was headed to, lol.

Sadly, (in retrospect) I would frequent this Native American bar right around 1:30am to catch drunk Indian bishes spilling out of the club. They don't do well with alcohol (hence the American land grab). I'd keep an unopened thirty-pack of beer in the backseat of my convertible for everyone to see. It was like attracting ants to spilled soda. I've never not pulled a snl from that spot.

Point is, you just gotta be creative lol

HALL OF FAME!

WIA

Post: #4132

The thrill. Focus on the thrill.

As always, bless you sir.

Post: #4133

(01-22-2017 06:43 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 05:46 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  Suggested to chick she come to hang out, said she "wouldn't want to hang out at my apartment out of respect for her boyfriend" but wants to hang anyway. Hot, thick 18 year old Latina. Found out she's had Bf for 2 1/2 years.

How to bang a chick with a boyfriend gents? She's cool enough to not "next." Do I just wait till they break up? Or can I be sinister and slide in.
Going through this thread has offered no real helpful advice /thread-10161...pid1334546

1) you need more chicks in your pipeline. Anytime you're thinking deeply about a chick you're not in front of - it's usually a pipeline problem. Agonizing over texts, trying to get strategic next time you see a broad - too much energy for something not within your grasp.

2) Generally you need to get her out, have a good time, and you can take active steps to destroy the boyfriend in her mind (you do this by compliment his good provider traits, his reliability, and play up your bad traits). But chances are good that you don't need to mention that/do any of that if she agrees to meet. If she agrees to meet some strange man when she has a man at home, - her actions say that she's down to cheat - but she doesn't want to take any responsibility for it.

As game experiences go, it's a bit of a thrill to fuck a chick behind her boyfriend's back - but it's even more doomed than any other set up. (marriages are doomed, LTR's are doomed, FB's are doomed) -

Plus there are obvious downsides
- how you feel doing something despicable - if you hate yourself, or worse - you feel nothing
- how she feels - guilty
- her moves - she might be trying to swing to the next higher dick on the ladder.
- what you learn about girls who are more than willing to spread their legs for a smooth talker
- social impact to you and her
- a guy waiting for you with a pistol

The upsides?
- sex
- the thrill of forbidden sex
- you learn more game - you're basically going to give this chick a thrill that she's really looking for - and that's useful - because you give thrills out and get pussy in return.

WIA

Can someone explain to me what is the point of chasing girls with boyfriends/husbands?

Ethics aside theres an added degree of difficulty/skill to getting these girls and that energy/time would be invested into simply getting another girl. I mean if shes simply throwing it at you and its an easy take home I can understand. However, in this case you gotta text, setup a date, go out with her, game her and all the rigmarole instead of simply heading to the club or another outlet and getting something there, a girl who you could in fact be banging the same night or within a week.

The ratio of success versus time/energy put in just doesn't add up in my head.

This is not even including if the guy finds out and is a fucking jackass who wants to kill you for "fucking his girl". I got no time for that mess.

Post: #4134

This girl isn't someone I'm going to be vigorously pursuing - I'm pipelining others.

It's just, if it could happen, how?

And re: why, its the thrill of it

Post: #4135

All lizards these days have 'boyfriends'. They are often in the market for someone better.

Post: #4136

(01-22-2017 07:34 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Can someone explain to me what is the point of chasing girls with boyfriends/husbands?

Ethics aside theres an added degree of difficulty/skill to getting these girls

I've actually found it's quite the opposite many times. Girls with boyfriends can be the absolute easiest.

Post: #4137

Forrealz! The sooner you young men realize these hoes ain't loyal the better off you'll be.

Post: #4138

I'm naive.

Why is it bad if a woman makes a point that you don't fit stereotypes of black poverty, unwillingness to work, etc.?

Post: #4139

(01-22-2017 09:19 PM)Moma Wrote:  All lizards these days have 'boyfriends'. They are often in the market for someone better.

I don't seem to run into the boyfriend objection from girls too often.

The most ive run into was that she had a Friends with Benefits setup with a guy and she didn't want to sleep with two guys at once.

I ended up stealing her from him.

Post: #4140

(01-22-2017 06:43 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  1) you need more chicks in your pipeline. Anytime you're thinking deeply about a chick you're not in front of - it's usually a pipeline problem. Agonizing over texts, trying to get strategic next time you see a broad - too much energy for something not within your grasp.

Well put, agree 100%.

(01-22-2017 03:59 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  A chick giving you resistance is really giving you a gift.

(01-22-2017 04:50 PM)Unchained Wrote:  However, when guys continue to put massive conscious effort and energy into gaming a clearly non-receptive female, that's the epitome of clown game to me. Regardless of the effectiveness, the older I get the less I'm willing to perform in the circus. I'm perfectly fine leaving pussy on the table if I don't feel like juggling balls and jumping through rings of fire for a single female.

One of the collaterals of getting good at game is that you are able to overcome shit tests and walls so efficiently that it's almost like you are using a real life cheat code.

The resistance is good because it makes you evolve and the hunt becomes more entertaining.

At some point though, your game becomes so sharp and you can cut through the BS with so much ease that you may not realize that the girl you're gaming is not worth being gamed, or is a terrible match for you. That's the point I'm at now.

You plow through the resistance because that's what one should do when meeting resistance. Your skin is thick enough that when they diss you, you don't even skip a beat.

It's like going through a maze. When you face a dead end, you don't break down; you stoically keep going until you come out on the other side. That's just what you do, no matter what.

The racist chick above or the Crossfit girl I talked about on this post are good examples.

We get so good at overcoming obstacles, we may even ignore what the resistance is really telling us: "hey bro - leave this alone".

Post: #4141

Mufasa I'm pretty sure I've seen you mention inviting chicks home for "cake" multiple times, apologies if I've missed further elaboration on that point but do you actually have a bunch of cake laying around your crib?

Follow-up, have you found success with any particular type of cake over the others?

Post: #4142

(01-23-2017 11:22 AM)Ringo Wrote:  You plow through the resistance because that's what one should do when meeting resistance. Your skin is thick enough that when they diss you, you don't even skip a beat.

It's like going through a maze. When you face a dead end, you don't break down; you stoically keep going until you come out on the other side. That's just what you do, no matter what.

We get so good at overcoming obstacles, we may even ignore what the resistance is really telling us: "hey bro - leave this alone".

Great observation, Ringo. This is the place I would really like to be at. Making progress, but sometimes I feel like a "recovering addict" who "relapses" into his old bad habits.

Post: #4143

About the racist chick, I wasn't asking if it could be done, I was asking what guys were willing to put up with. "Difficult" does not mean impossible.

But to expand on it, at what point, if any, are we thinking about gaming one particular girl mostly for Game's sake alone? You could sub the racist chick with a lesbian separatist feminist, a kleptomaniac, or a chick with a murdering psycho in her life.

Post: #4144

262, In my opinion, this is where Game meets wisdom. Knowing when to hold, fold, walk away, and when to run.
I've been in potentially homicidal situations with angry baby-daddy's because I plowed through my better judgment just for some pussy.

Post: #4145

Last minute resistance tips for black guys? In today's SJW, rape-fearing culture, it's hard to distinguish between it and a "no" of non-consent.

Actually had a chick who kept putting some up when making out with her tell me the following day how she's never had someone make her feel that physically uncomfortable in her life ( poor 5'4 Asian chick scared of the 6'3 black man). Haven't taken it to heart; just an indication of how relatively closeted she is - ain't nobody got time for that.

Post: #4146

I don't buy into all that SJW disdain BS. IMO, it's becoming an excuse as why some men simply can't attract a wider variety of women.
That said, as a black man, I'd take extra precaution when deciphering LMR versus plain lack of comfort.
You can catch a case phucking around with Becky and Ming. That Brock Turner shit don't apply to us in the American criminal injustice system Bruh.

Post: #4147

(01-23-2017 06:39 PM)RunsWithScissors Wrote:  Mufasa I'm pretty sure I've seen you mention inviting chicks home for "cake" multiple times, apologies if I've missed further elaboration on that point but do you actually have a bunch of cake laying around your crib?

Follow-up, have you found success with any particular type of cake over the others?

Kinda. I really got into baking when I was 14 because my parents wouldn't let me buy sweets as often as I wanted. Cake, cookies; pies I'll make and enjoy myself. Often I'll have the ingredients just shelved up for when the occasion arises. If you think about it it's almost a team effort type thing to them that you are accomplishing together that helps bond her with you. From a game perspective its an innocent invite that when taken seriously its clear that there has to be some strings attached.

Just like any maneuver meant to get her back to your place with plausible deniability I feel that "Cake" is just too innocent that it simultaneously screams at the girl "this guy is going to try to fuck you. Who the fuck eats cake after drinking at 3am??" I look at it as almost a indirect direct way of saying lets fuck vs hey I got some movies/music or whatever else one would say to get her back. Plus girls love sweets which also plays in my favor.

My favorite is yellow marble cake so thats what i use. I imagine a well made chocolate cake is pretty persuasive. TBH I don't even think its about what type of cake it is because of the reasons above.

Post: #4148

(01-25-2017 02:41 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  Last minute resistance tips for black guys? In today's SJW, rape-fearing culture, it's hard to distinguish between it and a "no" of non-consent.

Actually had a chick who kept putting some up when making out with her tell me the following day how she's never had someone make her feel that physically uncomfortable in her life ( poor 5'4 Asian chick scared of the 6'3 black man). Haven't taken it to heart; just an indication of how relatively closeted she is - ain't nobody got time for that.

By the time a chick gets back to my place, she knows what time it is.

So if you're getting resistance at all, you made mistakes way earlier.

Guys that dodge *first* minute resistance like we discussed above don't know how to handle *last* minute resistance typically.

WIA

Post: #4149

So if I get resistance at my place (or say in a cab ride, as where I got it in the above mentioned scenario) I should just chalk it up to a loss and keep pushing?

I'd say that there have been times where I've gotten some resistance to the bang on one occasion, but it still happened eventually (say the next time we saw each other).

But here I go, overthinking things again. Just finished an episode of the wire where one character calls out another for being pussy crazed & letting it control him - think it applies to my life.

Post: #4150

(01-25-2017 06:33 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  So if I get resistance at my place (or say in a cab ride, as where I got it in the above mentioned scenario) I should just chalk it up to a loss and keep pushing?

I'd say that there have been times where I've gotten some resistance to the bang on one occasion, but it still happened eventually (say the next time we saw each other).

But here I go, overthinking things again. Just finished an episode of the wire where one character calls out another for being pussy crazed & letting it control him - think it applies to my life.

If a chick is not with it - ease back, get out of the physical intimacy (get up off the couch/out the bed) and make her crave you again. Give it 15-30 minutes, and then make an assertive but respectful move.

If she's still not with it, call the chick an Uber.


WIA