Post: #4101

I'll preface this with the fact that I'm not a day gamer...

(01-20-2017 03:50 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  How would you handle this?




WIA

First of all it wouldn't have gotten past this point I would have commandeered the vessel and set sail for attraction islands but for the sake of argument....

Me: Hey whats your name



me: -haha!- So you came out the womb and thats what they called you?! Your parents are either funny or hate you --hah--[Place a bedside manner hand on her shoulder while delivering the line. Followed by a lingering pulling of the hand that brushes down her arm. If the seat next to her is available I sit now]



You know what never gets old...sitting down and/or a cold glass of water you know what I mean. Shit is right all the time everytime.
[no eye contact like Im rememnicing about the good old days. Im trying to look as relaxed as possible and smiling looking up-- looking down is a subconscious cowardice que. I feel like I would have broken down her defense]



Me: Perfect. Im an underwhelming lover so we can skip right past that to the make out [a little self depreciating humor thats seems beta and social disconnected before I come in with that biscuit!]. Not here in public though -hah- you might try to eat my face and then you'd go to jail.[Id use my hands to show two fingers about to kiss before one devours the other mercilessly. Pull out my phone hand it to her pushing it into her space] whats your number [If she's being this defensive she's probably going to say something like "whats that for?" and ill say "feeding small ethiopian children". She's probably not going to give me the number but thats how I'd run it]

Post: #4102

(01-20-2017 10:26 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  So last night's white lizard who said she'd put me on with her friend didn't respond today to texts. Onto the next one.

I felt so cool attempting solo game last night, I'm going to try it again tonight. Have been social for most of the day, went to an event with some friends, and am treating myself to a dinner at a chic restaurant (#treatyoself) before hitting up this party at one of my favorite bars.

I'll probably post my experience here, just to have you wonderful gents dissect it.

I did grab a digit at the social event, but think it was more of a courteousy - was with a black lizard (am I turning into WIA with the terminology? It doesn't help that my former LTR, the one I'm still heartbroken over, now refers to herself as "half reptile/half girl" on her social media). These hoes are building the stereotype for themselves.

This red pill is starting to taste good.

Lizard is from the God Moma, respect the architect.

To a large extent, I push a "social scientist" "field psychologist" concept - but you'll have more fun if you stay in the moment.

WIA

Post: #4103

"Who has time for love? I can barely keep up with you. The only thing I have time for is fun and I can tell you're pretty fun. Nothing like a hopeless romantic to brighten up the mood[roll my eyes, lay the sarcasm on thick, and smile]."

Post: #4104

Stay in the moment, buyer's mindset.

Post: #4105

I'd next her on the first whiff of condescension.

I've been in this situation and done it before.

I'm sure there's a way to bypass it. However, most chicks during the day are pleasant, including the unicorns - so why bother with the oddball?

Post: #4106

If I wanted to continue, I'd say something like 'I like the attitude - it's kind of hot' and just keep ploughing.

Post: #4107

(01-21-2017 03:51 AM)262 Wrote:  I'd next her on the first whiff of condescension.

I've been in this situation and done it before.

I'm sure there's a way to bypass it. However, most chicks during the day are pleasant, including the unicorns - so why bother with the oddball?

I agree. I don't waste time on girls these days who throw out bullshit like that early on. I don't have the patience for it as I get older.

When a girl is actually feeling you, game is easy. The more games she plays and the longer she plays them, the less worth it it is for me.

I'm not a boy anymore I'm a man.

Post: #4108

It's usually just a shield / test and not the real personality. Even when girls have been deliberately rude, I've had them re-engage me later in the night and pulled them when I've handled it well and not taken it personally.

Post: #4109

Curious how much shields guys will put up with.

Even more improbable, but suppose the girl above ends her first sentence with the racial slur that applies to you.

Post: #4110

Chick who's friend I was getting hype about (as she said she had a hot roommate who's type I am) drunkingly grazed my cheek and was like "yeah she loves your type, mulattos."

Alarm bells should have been ringing then.

Post: #4111

(01-22-2017 04:51 AM)262 Wrote:  Curious how much shields guys will put up with.

Even more improbable, but suppose the girl above ends her first sentence with the racial slur that applies to you.

It happens, the question is whether you want to fuck her still.





Not advertising for homie at all. But this is straight up, end of the night, cold approach, really hostile chick in a racial way.

This dude stays on her, solves the problem, and she gets into the cab with him. I don't have any footage of P going into V, and scream stage all you want - but guys that run night game see this chick's behavior for the bullshit that it is.

In terms of race and dating, the bigger problems occur when she gets Republican on you when you're deep into the relationship, when you start to uncover how truly programmed she is.

"You're not like those other members of your demographic...You're one of the good ones"

Or some rough shit happens to you during the day, and she refuses to believe that other people are being nonchalantly cruel.

I swear Obama has this line about he could have gotten with some white chick, and been married to her, but he would have to fit himself into her world. Basically sealing his fate.

Y'all ain't ready for this discussion are you?

WIA

Post: #4112

(01-22-2017 06:51 AM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  Chick who's friend I was getting hype about (as she said she had a hot roommate who's type I am) drunkingly grazed my cheek and was like "yeah she loves your type, mulattos."

Alarm bells should have been ringing then.

Right? You ain't even going in that direction, but they bring that shit to your door step.

WIA

Post: #4113

(01-22-2017 01:06 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 06:51 AM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  Chick who's friend I was getting hype about (as she said she had a hot roommate who's type I am) drunkingly grazed my cheek and was like "yeah she loves your type, mulattos."

Alarm bells should have been ringing then.

Right? You ain't even going in that direction, but they bring that shit to your door step.

WIA

If you ever go to Europe, it's not uncommon for a girl to tell you "I want a caramel baby. They are cute". I swear I heard that multiple times and I've heard other black men mentioning that before.

Post: #4114

(01-21-2017 02:39 PM)Kieran Wrote:  It's usually just a shield / test and not the real personality. Even when girls have been deliberately rude, I've had them re-engage me later in the night and pulled them when I've handled it well and not taken it personally.

There's a thin line between them. There's a way a woman will say and do certain things that determine if it's a shit test or genuine personality. I don't think anyone in this thread needs to be told what a shit test is.

Obviously any dude who has experience with women has had to pass shit tests. The point is when does it become worth it to chase a woman who wants to play games, and when is it better to just talk to another woman who's more receptive or has better chemistry.

Like I said as I get older I've gotten less and less patience for belligerent shit testing. I value myself too much to play too many games and chase pussy like that.

Think about it. If you're CHASING or PURSUING pussy that means that the pussy is running away from you. I don't reward women with my time and attention when they're not providing anything for me or giving me positive vibes.

As for women who fetishize black men, I find they're typically extremely low status, low class, and trashy. I'm in Los Angeles and I had a female coworker who only dated black guys. She was 34, slightly overweight, fake tits, annoying attitude, thought too highly of herself for the looks she had, and the guys she fucked weren't even attractive or high status. She bragged about how white guys were weak and she only dated black guys. It was disgusting.

I would never date a girl who "fetishizes" black men. There's something mental about it. I've dated plenty of white women. Most were just normal girls who digged my swag. They never made it about my skin color. In American society I am not seen as a "man" and never have been my entire life. In America I'm seen as a "BLACK MAN". My skin color always comes before my manhood. In America you have to be white to be seen as a man first. Otherwise it's about your skin color first and after you prove yourself then you can be considered a man without ethnicity being brought into the picture. I leave my house and go out in the world and deal with racial bullshit and having to prove I'm more than my dark skin, I don't need to come home to my woman doing the same shit and making it about my skin color.

Any white girl who sees black men as a fetish or a novelty is pump and dump or fuck buddies only. I remember at the gym this hot ass white girl probably 19-20 came in dressed like a total ghetto whore. Tight gray yoga pants, sports bra, big hoop earrings, midriff exposed. I mean she came to the gym in a fucking sports bra. She was hot but clearly had issues to leave the house like that. I wondered which father would let his daughter leave the house like that. 5 minutes later I received my answer. She had come in with a black guy, dressed like he came from a hip hop music video, tattoos all over his neck and even onto his face.

These are the type of women who are "super into" black guys. Mentally damaged and undesirable for long term relationships or child rearing. Beware my brothers.

Post: #4115

There's nothing particularly belligerent about the example given though.

Post: #4116

With that GIF chick I'd try 3-4 times like this. If she kept that attitude I'd leave excuse myself. Whatever. I've talked to enough girls who seemed to be "bothered" by me. All it took was to persist and mind my manners for a while. They cracked and we started talking for real.

That reaction has nothing to do with me. It's her issues coming out. All it takes is to show her that you get it what she does or try to do. That applies to vast majority of women. Besides, I do the same thing as her when someone bothers me when I don't want it.

It's funny to me that some guys would give up right away. That's a zero empathy towards another human being. I can already hear those "if you were cool/attractive she would stop her life for you and be nice no matter what" type of comments coming.

It's simple, since YOU want something from her ON YOUR TIME you must know that this might be wrong time and place to engage her with you. So be forgiving and realize it's ON YOU to help her to open up towards you.

Post: #4117

He had some great insight on self improvement overall. I can definitely respect his hustle. Racists chicks rank up there with dumb ratchet bitches that, in my experience and wisdom, have proven to be more costly than beneficial.
He seems like a nice guy, but I'm willing to bet he's had some identity issues. Too whitewashed for black folk and too "different" for white folk

Post: #4118

He's Canadian, and that whole squad is not who I'd call conscious.

But the video was in response to 262's post about token resistance and a racial kicker.

Although if I recall he sort of baited it with his initial response to her reluctance. That being said, he was actually able to pull far more emotion out of the chick than he could otherwise get. Once he could get a toe in the door, and knowing that the chick was really full of shit, then he could flip that shit.

To me, that was unwinnable situation. I ended up learning something from that.

Guys basically bail out on situations because they think they're unwinnable. Your game doesn't grow that way.

We in here trying to get the young G Iso to see past the big tough guys, because it's really a mental block more than an actual issue.

A chick giving you resistance is really giving you a gift.

Resistance is better than indifference. She steps over homeless people. Like Americans and any global tragedy, nobody is changing their Facebook avatar to flag of the week.

Tough sales, tough interviews, tough pulls - teach a dude far more than skipping to the easy chicks.

The chick on public transit is typical. That's a normal case of a girl not trying to hear it. That's what your game should be for, to handle chicks that don't realize you're bringing the gospel.

WIA

Post: #4119

One thing I've been thinking about lately is that there is a sort of meta to game. That is things that don't directly relate to it that can affect your results. For example when I limit music listening I notice my wit becomes a bit sharper. Also I'm less likely to just let prospects just walk out of my life. Meditation helps but sometimes I feel sluggish afterwards. Avoiding politics (especially in this political climate) also helps as politics puts you in a certain type of mindset that is not conducive to gaming.

Post: #4120

That RSD Madison guy is okay but I'd like to see him exhibit a bit more range. Instead of approaching nothing but White club rats how about you go to the club on hip-hop night and approach some sistas? Or even some Asians. Even if he has no interest in Black women (which I suspect) it'd be nice to show that he can adjust his game, even if it's just to expand his brand.

Post: #4121

(01-22-2017 02:50 PM)Kieran Wrote:  There's nothing particularly belligerent about the example given though.

I'm aware. I was speaking in general.

Also I respectfully disagree with WIA about "sticking in there" or whatever with non-receptive women. I feel like pick up in general glorifies spending lots of time, effort, and energy to "unlock" a girl that's acting cold and finally getting the pussy in the end.

In my experience the opposite holds true. The longer and harder she plays games, the less it's worth it. Note I'm not talking about the slightest basic shit test here obviously there's a spectrum and there's levels to this shit.

For some reason the PUA community encourages guys to waste hours and think of ways to be extremely clever and cunning just to win over a single female. I simply don't agree. You should be able to tell as you're interacting with a girl as you can read her voice, body language, energy how she feels. Her words often mean very little. A girl might say something dismissive while leaning in toward you and laughing. Obviously she's just talking shit and you can go ahead and continue to escalate. I'm not talking about those situations and I feel most guys in this thread are at a level where they can gauge that pretty quickly and naturally. No one is saying to instantly ditch the approach at the slightest sign of resistance, challenge, or lack of smoothness. If that was the case none of us would bang attractive women from cold approach.

However, when guys continue to put massive conscious effort and energy into gaming a clearly non-receptive female, that's the epitome of clown game to me. Regardless of the effectiveness, the older I get the less I'm willing to perform in the circus. I'm perfectly fine leaving pussy on the table if I don't feel like juggling balls and jumping through rings of fire for a single female.

Unless this was a girl I truly wanted and was envisioning a future with for more than just sex, I will not play along.

Post: #4122

1) what is massive amount

2) "Unless this was a girl I truly wanted and was envisioning a future with for more than just sex, I will not play along."

How would you know this without spending a lot of time with a chick?



3) game isn't for the yes girls, the green lights.

It's for the yellow and red lights.

The whole idea of game is getting the chick to do what you want her to do. But that doesn't mean you always persist through everything.

WIA

Post: #4123

WIA - you know you are my boy.

I call BS on that video, the general vibe seems off to me.

I know exactly where that guy is gaming in Toronto.

The video reminds me of Justin Wayne, I think his are more believable. Although, I have heard he is a fraud as well.

Post: #4124

Suggested to chick she come to hang out, said she "wouldn't want to hang out at my apartment out of respect for her boyfriend" but wants to hang anyway. Hot, thick 18 year old Latina. Found out she's had Bf for 2 1/2 years.

How to bang a chick with a boyfriend gents? She's cool enough to not "next." Do I just wait till they break up? Or can I be sinister and slide in.
Going through this thread has offered no real helpful advice /thread-10161...pid1334546

Post: #4125

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(01-22-2017 05:18 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  1) what is massive amount

For example if I'm nightgaming and I approach a girl or group of girls at a certain point I might decide to eject and approach someone else in the same venue or to bounce to another venue.

Another example is a girl I might see at the bank or the gym. If I try to interact with her in an attempt to get a date or make plans one time and it doesn't go well do I continue making attempts? Or if she gives me the number but keeps flaking on plans for hangouts?

Quote:2) "Unless this was a girl I truly wanted and was envisioning a future with for more than just sex, I will not play along."

How would you know this without spending a lot of time with a chick?

Touche'. Good point.

Quote:3) game isn't for the yes girls, the green lights.

It's for the yellow and red lights.

Agreed. It's not for the green lights and yes girls. It's for the maybe girls/yellow lights. Not sure how you would define a red light/no girl. I would need to know how you define that before I could spit on it.

In my mind, I'm inclined to say ignore the red lights and look for greens and yellows.

Quote:The whole idea of game is getting the chick to do what you want her to do. But that doesn't mean you always persist through everything.

Agreed.