(10-28-2015 07:55 AM)EatMee Wrote:  All i'm saying is they aren't going out of their way to make it happen. Take action and doing all the work is a must or else you wouldn't get any results.

Since when were good looking girls going out of their way to get any color dick? Even overweight chicks don't have to work for dick in the social media age we live in. All these bishes gotta do it turn on their phone and they can have their pick of dozens of thirsty dudes they got on their contact list.

Unless you got fame/wealth, you're going to have to put in a lot of work to get good pussy, regardless of your race.

"Keep in mind I let them know beforehand that "i'm gathering info to get a general consensus to confirm or disprove whether certain myths, theories and statements are true and the best references are from the actual mouths of women themselves", so they know what they are getting into. I ask them all sorts of questions from height, races, looks, money and anything that is generally talked about in the dating world so I do have a good perspective on what they ideally want/prefer."

This statement tells me everything I need to know about you. Thanks, very informative. LOL

All the graphs, flowcharts and studies mean nothing to me. We get the picture, black guys have limited options according to you.

Why not tell us about "your" experiences, since I see you spent time in Sweden and now live in Germany. I do not want to hear about friends of friends or your next door neighbours cousins experience.

I do not want to hear the generic crap, about black girls wanting thugs and hot white girls wanting hot white guys.

So called hot white guys are dating down where I live and a lot of other places according to this forum, most of these places being in the Anglosphere.

This is the point of game, it levels the playing field.

Any guy can game any girl on any given day, I have seen it over and over again.

EatMee is on the wrong site. Asking girls questions about sexual preferences and expecting the unequivocal truth? This guy. Why even ask? It accomplishes nothing.

Hold on, he's lived in Sweden and Germany and can't get a white chick?

Damn son, i've been gone for like two weeks and this thread once again turned into "why white chicks don't like us" line. I'm going to drop some recent experiences then i'm out, shit is too bleak and grey around these parts.

I've been studying in starbucks for the last two weeks for at least 10 hours a day. My starbucks is in a major city in the "rich area." Of course this starbucks is filled with snow bunnies and milfs with the classy black chicks sprinkled in. Every few days, i have a conversation at least 10-30 minutes with a white chick under the age of 30. Most i'd say are 6 and 7's or better, and a few 4s and 5s. I've noticed most were willing to talk for a few reasons:

1. I dress really well and have my own hipster swag that girls around here really like.
2. I speak very well, not like proper english well, but almost every girl i've ever dated/fucked says the love my voice.
3. I've always opened the girls with a sarcastic witty comment or make a remark about something they are wearing/doing on the computer.
4. I constantly smile and genuinely am happy just to be able to talk with bitches in between jamming my brain full of fluff.

Some of my openers: "hey can you watch my mac, while I plug my charger in under the table (charger is literally 6 inches away from my computer)", "Nice running shoes, do you actually put some miles on them or are they just for show" or "I was going to wear those same exact shoes today, those aren't Tom Fords are they (sarcastic smile)"

Every time, we end up talking about an array of topics from art, long distance running, whole foods, stock market, Donald trump, europe travels etc. Usually at the end of the convo these girls are begging me to get their numbers. I'm not interested in snow bunnies really, but talking with them keeps my game sharp. I can genuinely tell these chicks haven't interacted much with civilized successful black men and in my city we're fucking far and few between so I don't blame them for having preconceived notions about us. I don't let that shit stop me from having a convo because if they only thing negative they can think about me is i'm black, i'm doing pretty damn good for myself.

To sum it all up, don't fucking worry about dating statistics and people's fucking opinion, especially females!! How many times have we had bitches say, "i'm not going to have sex you tonight" or "I never fuck on the first date", only for you to be fucking their brains out that same night. No one knows how shit is going to go down until it goes down. I'm sure most brothers here beat out some type of statistic regarding jail, STD, college graduation etc. Why let one about dating hold you back?

This use to be my favorite thread on the entire site, but now shit has hit the fan. I'm appreciative of the early info/podcast as it motivated me to go out and approach and work on my style. These newer post make me feel like the exact opposite so i'm out of this woe is me contest. Heading to the thrift store to pick up some "new" gear for my europe trip this weekend. (Shouts out to WIA for the tips in the Fall style thread)

-CD

(10-28-2015 02:56 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  Damn son, i've been gone for like two weeks and this thread once again turned into "why white chicks don't like us" line. I'm going to drop some recent experiences then i'm out, shit is too bleak and grey around these parts.

I've been studying in starbucks for the last two weeks for at least 10 hours a day. My starbucks is in a major city in the "rich area." Of course this starbucks is filled with snow bunnies and milfs with the classy black chicks sprinkled in. Every few days, i have a conversation at least 10-30 minutes with a white chick under the age of 30. Most i'd say are 6 and 7's or better, and a few 4s and 5s. I've noticed most were willing to talk for a few reasons:

1. I dress really well and have my own hipster swag that girls around here really like.
2. I speak very well, not like proper english well, but almost every girl i've ever dated/fucked says the love my voice.
3. I've always opened the girls with a sarcastic witty comment or make a remark about something they are wearing/doing on the computer.
4. I constantly smile and genuinely am happy just to be able to talk with bitches in between jamming my brain full of fluff.

Some of my openers: "hey can you watch my mac, while I plug my charger in under the table (charger is literally 6 inches away from my computer)", "Nice running shoes, do you actually put some miles on them or are they just for show" or "I was going to wear those same exact shoes today, those aren't Tom Fords are they (sarcastic smile)"

Every time, we end up talking about an array of topics from art, long distance running, whole foods, stock market, Donald trump, europe travels etc. Usually at the end of the convo these girls are begging me to get their numbers. I'm not interested in snow bunnies really, but talking with them keeps my game sharp. I can genuinely tell these chicks haven't interacted much with civilized successful black men and in my city we're fucking far and few between so I don't blame them for having preconceived notions about us. I don't let that shit stop me from having a convo because if they only thing negative they can think about me is i'm black, i'm doing pretty damn good for myself.

To sum it all up, don't fucking worry about dating statistics and people's fucking opinion, especially females!! How many times have we had bitches say, "i'm not going to have sex you tonight" or "I never fuck on the first date", only for you to be fucking their brains out that same night. No one knows how shit is going to go down until it goes down. I'm sure most brothers here beat out some type of statistic regarding jail, STD, college graduation etc. Why let one about dating hold you back?

This use to be my favorite thread on the entire site, but now shit has hit the fan. I'm appreciative of the early info/podcast as it motivated me to go out and approach and work on my style. These newer post make me feel like the exact opposite so i'm out of this woe is me contest. Heading to the thrift store to pick up some "new" gear for my europe trip this weekend. (Shouts out to WIA for the tips in the Fall style thread)

-CD

Where in Europe? I'm going to Paris this weekend.

Okay before I clicked on this thread I literally thought "Please let there be a new podcast."

Mildly disappointed. Big props to RB and Moma though.

(10-28-2015 10:57 AM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  EatMee is on the wrong site. Asking girls questions about sexual preferences and expecting the unequivocal truth? This guy. Why even ask? It accomplishes nothing.

What is the truth then?

Most white girls do prefer white guys and i'm sure most would agree or is there something i'm missing.

(10-28-2015 02:56 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  Damn son, i've been gone for like two weeks and this thread once again turned into "why white chicks don't like us" line. I'm going to drop some recent experiences then i'm out, shit is too bleak and grey around these parts.

I've been studying in starbucks for the last two weeks for at least 10 hours a day. My starbucks is in a major city in the "rich area." Of course this starbucks is filled with snow bunnies and milfs with the classy black chicks sprinkled in. Every few days, i have a conversation at least 10-30 minutes with a white chick under the age of 30. Most i'd say are 6 and 7's or better, and a few 4s and 5s. I've noticed most were willing to talk for a few reasons:

1. I dress really well and have my own hipster swag that girls around here really like.
2. I speak very well, not like proper english well, but almost every girl i've ever dated/fucked says the love my voice.
3. I've always opened the girls with a sarcastic witty comment or make a remark about something they are wearing/doing on the computer.
4. I constantly smile and genuinely am happy just to be able to talk with bitches in between jamming my brain full of fluff.

Some of my openers: "hey can you watch my mac, while I plug my charger in under the table (charger is literally 6 inches away from my computer)", "Nice running shoes, do you actually put some miles on them or are they just for show" or "I was going to wear those same exact shoes today, those aren't Tom Fords are they (sarcastic smile)"

Every time, we end up talking about an array of topics from art, long distance running, whole foods, stock market, Donald trump, europe travels etc. Usually at the end of the convo these girls are begging me to get their numbers. I'm not interested in snow bunnies really, but talking with them keeps my game sharp. I can genuinely tell these chicks haven't interacted much with civilized successful black men and in my city we're fucking far and few between so I don't blame them for having preconceived notions about us. I don't let that shit stop me from having a convo because if they only thing negative they can think about me is i'm black, i'm doing pretty damn good for myself.

To sum it all up, don't fucking worry about dating statistics and people's fucking opinion, especially females!! How many times have we had bitches say, "i'm not going to have sex you tonight" or "I never fuck on the first date", only for you to be fucking their brains out that same night. No one knows how shit is going to go down until it goes down. I'm sure most brothers here beat out some type of statistic regarding jail, STD, college graduation etc. Why let one about dating hold you back?

This use to be my favorite thread on the entire site, but now shit has hit the fan. I'm appreciative of the early info/podcast as it motivated me to go out and approach and work on my style. These newer post make me feel like the exact opposite so i'm out of this woe is me contest. Heading to the thrift store to pick up some "new" gear for my europe trip this weekend. (Shouts out to WIA for the tips in the Fall style thread)

-CD

What city are you in now?

(10-28-2015 11:41 PM)DiscoBoi Wrote:  

(10-28-2015 10:57 AM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  EatMee is on the wrong site. Asking girls questions about sexual preferences and expecting the unequivocal truth? This guy. Why even ask? It accomplishes nothing.

What is the truth then?

Most white girls do prefer white guys and i'm sure most would agree or is there something i'm missing.

So if you're black and prefer white chicks, what you give up(or accept the bottom layer of whatever race/other criterion you're talking about) because most chicks prefer their own race? Just accept statistics as theyre presented to you?

A friend who had cancer and survived told me this -
When you get cancer everything is about survival.

X% of all patients who have late stage hodgkins lymphoma die.
(100-X)% patients survive.
But individually, if you die, 100% die.
If you survive, 100% survive.

Fuck these statistics man
Being reliant on statistics instills a limiting belief that will always fuck you over.

This thread is about those outliers. Its about problem solvers. To me, its about people who've been there and "beat the odds", statistically, so to speak.

I appreciate the fact that you're trying to keep things real and stuff.

But personally I'd much rather listen to the people who've been there and overcome whatever handicaps they may have faced, even if those specific handicaps may or may not apply to me. Im here to get laid.


Edit - Shamelessly copying Mentavious's post

Quote:Welp,

I'll just continue to bang 7,8,9 white girls that are below the age of 23 while you worry about all the factors that are against you.

Quote:No one knows how shit is going to go down until it goes down.

Quote of the motherfucking thread. Put it in your sig. Smoke it. Chant it like a mantra. Can I get a amen?

Now lets move on, shall we? Talk about some productive shit like clothes or where to go get laid.

Coverdoc - great post and apologies for the troll, I guess we were feeding him a little too much. The sad truth is that we have had a few like him before and I am sure another one will show up soon. I don't care what they believe, just don't come in here sprouting nonsense like it is the gospel. I still cannot get over his "interview" B.S, how lame is that.

Your post also sums up my game as of late, which is Starbucks game. I spend a lot of time in them and too much damn money, girls love the place and there is always opportunity to game.

Over the last few months I have noticed a few brothas meeting blind dates at the spot.
I saw one dude hook up with this "hot" blonde white girl, to be honest the dude was not much too look at. Props to him though!
My buddy was telling me he saw another brotha waiting for a chick at his local Starbucks, some chick finally showed up and she apologized for being late because she got caught in traffic. The joke is she had driven up all the way from New York State to meet him, which goes to show you anything is possible.

I also like what you said about dressing well, which is a topic we will be addressing in a upcoming podcast with special guest Archie. (WIA).

Sharpe, I see what you mean. Just because white women prefer white guys, shouldn't be an excuse to not go approach and game them. But my question was about his comment, specifically the part where he says "unequivocal truth". It's naive to think women don't have their preferences and how certain guys (white guys) have a easier time pulling due to their looks or the strong bias women have for their own men is what I was trying to convey when I said "is there something i'm missing?".

EatMee's experience was that; hot white women prefer tall, good looking, white guys. His conclusions were based on what women have told him, various other anecdote evidences and his own experiences. So if women weren't telling him the truth, then "Il Bersagiere" is pretty much saying a lot of people are lying. Not just women but the numerous guys out there including myself that our experiences are supposedly invalid. Take a look at "Donovan Sharpe's" experience who is a well respected (black) guy on Roosh's site when EatMee referenced him in his post (http://www.returnofkings.com/47823/the-p...the-west). His conclusions were about 2 out of 3 high SMV girls just aren't into black guys and that white guys or his white friend has an easier time pulling quality girls even though his white friend has weaker/less game then him. EatMee's conclusions were about 4 out of 5 girls aren't into black guys and that good looking white guys have an easier time pulling. There's also Roosh with a similar experience (http://www.rooshv.com/do-black-guys-have...dvantage). So their conclusions are very congruent to their experiences. This is also what I have experienced and seen and if any of you are familiar with me, I have mentioned my white friend before who has gotten better results then me but some argue that it's because they think he has better game but that's not the case at all.

Obviously what women prefer isn't an indication as to who can or can't pull. Any guy can approach and game any girl but the underlying theme (at least that's how I interpret these discussions) is that some guys are going to have a harder time pulling due to the preferences women have causing obstacles that others have to overcome. Around where I live, minorities aren't rare but regardless, majority of people are with their own and this is especially true with the 8+ crowd of any race. The 8+ latinas are with the latinos, the 8+ asian girls are with asian guys, the 8+ white girls are with white guys, etc.

As much as EatMee gets "hated" on, perhaps it's the way he comes off from his posts but a lot of what he says is valid. I was surprise to see people arguing over this fact honestly or trying to disprove their conclusions. Some guys using Tyson Beckford to disprove their conclusions, I mean really?! let's be realistic here, it's like me using Yao Ming (7'6) to disprove that most asians are short. So if white women weren't telling the truth or were lying then what exactly do they sexually prefer? Are you guys implying that most white women have some secret desire for black guys? Why else would some of you guys try to prove the facts wrong.

^Could it be women just don't like you?

You want to debate the same thing, why not give us an example of "what" you have experienced. Did you interview girls as well? lol

Go online and you will see hags with kids demanding hot guys with six packs and a six figure salary. Am I suppose to take that as the truth?

Funny how you are greatly out numbered, do you really think you are going to change peoples opinion. How you going to change mine, a dude in his mid-40s who has travelled to over 30 countries and met women from all over. Have you even left America!

I live in perhaps the hardest city in the West, yet I can still meet girls half my age. Not because I am special but because I have a mindset that anything can happen.

I don't want to discuss or debate with you.

Why don't you start your own podcast and we will be happy to listen to it......otherwise I predict you will be joining your boy EatMee.

Is it Thursday already? Looks like he garbage truck came by...

Anyway, let's discuss something that might be equally contentious.

When I rock with a
- Black American/Caribbean chick - I expect a level of cultural understanding, but I also expect that even though we both may be informed, we'll have different stances on different issues. (

- Latina chick - I expect her to be absurdly close to her family, and call me Papi.

- Eastern Euro/Central Euro Chick - I expect to be coming out the pocket when we go out because 1) they're usually broke students or worker bees, 2) that's how it goes down in their culture.

- Middle Eastern and Indian chicks -It's like Latina, except anyone who's remotely Middle Eastern or Indian is family. Depending how dashing I am, we might be keeping our hanging out on the Hush Hush...(which is fine by me.)

- White American chicks - They run the gamut. I've dated Republicans and chicks that will say some off the wall shit that needs to be checked immediately, granola crunchies, couple of true soror/snowbunny types, self identified feminists, Jewish chicks, career chicks, people in the scene. I've never banged one of them Sara Jay/Phat Ass White Girls that only bang Black Dudes. I guess I got to pretend to drop an album.

Which leads me to the topic of discussion.

Usually when I approach a chick, in my mind I have an idea of what her universe is like. Most of the fun in the initial interaction is seeing where i'm right and where i'm wrong.

The question then becomes what does she have in mind when she meets me?

Do I play up to her expectations, or play off of her expectations?

I remember missing out on this former cheerleader because she wanted some 420, and I'm like I like Bob, but I don't need ganja.

Other times, a chick gets in the ride, and I'm bumping Future or The Clipse, and chick is thinking I should be jamming some Coltrane or something. It's even worse, If I ride over to a chick's spot, go in for a few minutes, and then as my car starts it's Queens of The Stone Age and she had me pegged for a hip hop head.

The more time a chick spends with me, the more "global" she sees me, but at the onset, I'm dealing with her assumptions of what I'm like as I deal with hers.

One chick in particular was tracing my scars, and asked me about the fights i've been in. I'm thinking to myself, that one came from a lab incident, and the other for a youth spent extreme sporting. Of course I demur, and say something, "I can't even talk about something like that with you"...

So what do you do? Do you give her the fantasy? Do you call her out? Do you ignore?

WIA

(10-29-2015 12:03 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^Could it be women just don't like you?

You want to debate the same thing, why not give us an example of "what" you have experienced. Did you interview girls as well? lol

The last part makes you seem a little passive aggressive. I show you respect and you show me respect. I don't want to start anything here. I’ve never attacked your persona nor criticized your gaming here. I know you're a rep and senior member so I don't want anything between us.

I have pretty much the exact experience "Donovan Sharpe" had experienced in the game and concluded. I bring "Donovan Sharpe" up because he's obviously black, but because he's a respected member on Roosh's site, so he would hold more credibility in the eyes of members here, so in other words it is more powerful coming from him.

Quote:One of my best friends is a white guy I’ve known for nearly 20 years. He’s a tall, great looking guy with a great job. Every Anglo-slut’s dream. When we go out for a night on the town he consistently pulls quality chicks much easier than I do, even though my game level is much higher than his. He’s got a little game, but he naturally attracts women to him so he hasn’t really had to hone his skills in the art of seduction. I always have to work a little bit harder to pull than he does, which is perfectly okay because I now have a deeper understanding of how the game works.
http://www.returnofkings.com/47823/the-p...n-the-west

I'm not in my 40s like you are so obviously you have been in the game more then me but I have been in the game long enough where I can hold my own and have pretty much experienced exactly what he (Donovan Sharpe) had concluded. Do you think it's because women don't like him for why he has a harder time pulling then his white friend?

(10-29-2015 12:03 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Go online and you will see hags with kids demanding hot guys with six packs and a six figure salary. Am I suppose to take that as the truth?

Yes actually because it is the truth since that is what they prefer. These women would ideally prefer a hot guy with six packs and 6 figure salary. I highlighted it because that's the key word, ideally prefer. Now does this mean that guys who don't fit their ideal type mean that they can't pull? Of course not and I think this is the counter argument you are making here. A short guy with a belly and average looks can pull but most women he approaches will still ideally prefer a tall good looking guy whom would require less game to pull since that is what they ideally want. Like I said a while ago, pulling a girl and what a girl prefers isn't the same. A short guy can pull but they would still prefer a tall guy.

Here's an example from my own experience. The majority of girls i've dated weren't into black guys, but I was the first black guy they dated. Does this change the fact that majority of white girls aren't into black guys because I pulled them? Obviously no, they do still prefer white guys and considering that i'm the first black guy it automatically confirms that majority of white girls aren't into black guys. So even though I pulled them, if my white friend came along and approached these same women, it would be a lot easier for him since they still ideally prefer a tall good looking white guy inside them. So how did I pull them? Well it was because I went out of my way to do so because they certainly weren't gonna make it happen anytime soon because i'm not their ideal type. Some of it was game, some of it was just being in the right circumstances. Another thing is among the white girls who I had been with who liked black guys were mainly from out of state (northeast and east coast states).

(10-29-2015 12:03 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Funny how you are greatly out numbered, do you really think you are going to change peoples opinion. How you going to change mine, a dude in his mid-40s who has travelled to over 30 countries and met women from all over. Have you even left America!

Now you are making assumptions here. Remember when you said "black guys have limited options according to you (EatMee)" to EatMee. Well when I read his post, he never said it and it was actually Roosh who said it in the reference quote by Roosh himself. With that said, i'm just sharing my perspective here and yes i've been to 3 countries. I haven't traveled much like you but I have been out of the country.

(10-29-2015 12:03 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I live in perhaps the hardest city in the West, yet I can still meet girls half my age. Not because I am special but because I have a mindset that anything can happen.

OK it seems like you and I have been arguing about two different things the whole time. Your main objective is about pulling women and mine is about women's preferences. I think you may of interpret the statements "hot white girls prefer tall good looking white guys" as implying that you can't get them if you don't fit the type, so I think it's because of this misinterpretation of each other is the reason these discussions started.

^ Great thanks for that, I am the bigger man so you can have the last word.

I am not making fun of you dude, but you have been to 3 countries vs my 30 countries.

I didn't grow up in America, I grew up in the UK and was the "token" black kid in school. So white women or hot white women hold no mystery to me.

So it would stand to reason, my views would contrast completely with yours.

This debate about white girls preferring white men is gone on for too long on this thread. Why don't we debate if water is wet or if the sun rises in the east and sets in the west? We all know this so let's move on. For the most part the men in here are just looking for ways to improve our success with women. So if you can't add to the thread in that way then maybe you should take a seat and let some more experienced members bestow some knowledge upon you.

(10-29-2015 03:40 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Is it Thursday already? Looks like he garbage truck came by...

Anyway, let's discuss something that might be equally contentious.

When I rock with a
- Black American/Caribbean chick - I expect a level of cultural understanding, but I also expect that even though we both may be informed, we'll have different stances on different issues. (

- Latina chick - I expect her to be absurdly close to her family, and call me Papi.

- Eastern Euro/Central Euro Chick - I expect to be coming out the pocket when we go out because 1) they're usually broke students or worker bees, 2) that's how it goes down in their culture.

- Middle Eastern and Indian chicks -It's like Latina, except anyone who's remotely Middle Eastern or Indian is family. Depending how dashing I am, we might be keeping our hanging out on the Hush Hush...(which is fine by me.)

- White American chicks - They run the gamut. I've dated Republicans and chicks that will say some off the wall shit that needs to be checked immediately, granola crunchies, couple of true soror/snowbunny types, self identified feminists, Jewish chicks, career chicks, people in the scene. I've never banged one of them Sara Jay/Phat Ass White Girls that only bang Black Dudes. I guess I got to pretend to drop an album.

Which leads me to the topic of discussion.

Usually when I approach a chick, in my mind I have an idea of what her universe is like. Most of the fun in the initial interaction is seeing where i'm right and where i'm wrong.

The question then becomes what does she have in mind when she meets me?

Do I play up to her expectations, or play off of her expectations?

I remember missing out on this former cheerleader because she wanted some 420, and I'm like I like Bob, but I don't need ganja.

Other times, a chick gets in the ride, and I'm bumping Future or The Clipse, and chick is thinking I should be jamming some Coltrane or something. It's even worse, If I ride over to a chick's spot, go in for a few minutes, and then as my car starts it's Queens of The Stone Age and she had me pegged for a hip hop head.

The more time a chick spends with me, the more "global" she sees me, but at the onset, I'm dealing with her assumptions of what I'm like as I deal with hers.

One chick in particular was tracing my scars, and asked me about the fights i've been in. I'm thinking to myself, that one came from a lab incident, and the other for a youth spent extreme sporting. Of course I demur, and say something, "I can't even talk about something like that with you"...

So what do you do? Do you give her the fantasy? Do you call her out? Do you ignore?

WIA

An answer to your question and a bit of an addition. Being stereotyped out the ass isn't uncommon and one look at me is enough for it, but I think what really comes into play after you build off assumptions and presentations is something key.

This is the one core part of your personality and vibe that separates a man from all the rest. Irrespective of what her universe is the focus in the end comes back to you. Chicks have fucked tons of hip hop heads, hipsters, jocks, band singers, bad groupies, etc etc to have sampled an idea of what a guy is like.

It's up to us as men to go through all her preconceptions and give her a new thought that leads to your dick. You can create a fantasy and call her out all at once by bringing out that key trait that puts you ahead of everyone, and the variety of experiences that people experience bring out different variations of that key component. That's game. Something that brings out the best in someone to maximize their potential.

(10-29-2015 06:18 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I didn't grow up in America, I grew up in the UK and was the "token" black kid in school. So white women or hot white women hold no mystery to me.

So it would stand to reason, my views would contrast completely with yours.

Youve lost me here. What exactly is your point?

I thought it was obvious that the majority white girls prefer white guys in the US and Europe. This should go without saying.

Is there going to be an asian girl version next.

DiscoBoi, can you summarise your new findings?

The only reason why brothers might struggle with women of other cultures is the perception that a life with a black man will mean financial regression especially for one's children.

Shatter that perception and any race of woman across the board will be free game (and quite frankly you'd have a hard time convincing me that isn't the case already).

Case in point: As a north American black dude you can clean house in most Latin American countries. However most native black dudes in Latin America struggle in their own countries. This dichotomy is created by bankroll and future earning potential.

Brothers with tight game and a good bankroll/career are already top the ladder.

Break that poverty and illiteracy cycle and the game changes. The pussy is the easy part.

^Hallelujah.

To your point, when I go out at night and approach a girl at a club. The first question out of her mouth is, what do I do for a living. I usually give them some vague comment to imply that I am a I.T nerd or deal with computers. This will put a crack in her pre-conceived image she may already have. Curious if any of you get this and what your response is?

At this stage in my life, my number one concern is finances. This is the only area where brothers fall short, no one wants to hang out with a broke person. Money is not the be all and end all, but it has been said before it makes things move easier. Money buys me time, I need money to travel for a month and game women properly.

Also money is about control. I find if a girl thinks I have money, they sometimes might get turned off because they cannot impress me. This may seem funny to a lot of people, this has happened to me a few times. I have had girls brag about dumb shit they have, in my mind thinking really bitch.

To Archie's question. I believe you have to play up a little to their expectations. I too have lost bangs because I wouldn't smoke a spliff.
I am pretty straight laced, but to women I feel that translates to being boring. Which for a black man is the kiss of death.

(10-30-2015 10:31 AM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  The only reason why brothers might struggle with women of other cultures is the perception that a life with a black man will mean financial regression especially for one's children.

Shatter that perception and any race of woman across the board will be free game (and quite frankly you'd have a hard time convincing me that isn't the case already).

Come on dude, lets not make these same rationalisations/excuses I hear everytime for why brothas can't get white chicks or any chicks of other races. I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble here but lets be realistic here. Most women whether at a bar, club, street, college campuses aren't looking for marriage nor are they looking to start a family any time soon. If money is an issue, then why do I know plenty of white dudes who are making average salaries at best, some doing minimum jobs, and a few that are broke doing decent with women. Lets not ignore the racial dynamics in the game. There are obviously bias against us where we have to dress better, make more money, bring more game, bring more value to even the playing field.