Post: #1

After reading this post by JustLookingForAGoodTime's post here /thread-43776-...#pid924232

Quote:The best payouts in any casino are the high roller areas. You know, the ones where $5 is the minimum play. Those machines are the loosest in joint since the max play is so much higher compared to regular machines that you can hit more often and more profit. Takes some priming of the well but when the going is good, you are going to get paid lovely.

I was motivated to write a post that turned out rather detailed and hits the topic right away. This summer I went gambling quite a bit, learned from a high roller, and managed to make some decent coin.

In order to win at the casino you need to have a modest amount of money, 500 at least. The more the better the chances. Some here know of my casino stories but there have been times where I went with a broad and got 15k a day.. And 10k the next day. There was a "stop" period and had a good amount to start with.

Max and hit the middle leagues. Fuck one dollar bets. Do $5-$50 slots. I've hit $1,200 just by betting 15 dollars at a time.

You will always hear the high roller area machine's buzz all the time. The best times to win are Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights; the probability to win goes down on weekdays as there is less traffic which means the machines aren't churning as much.

Here's the thing with slots, they have a "payout" period where they will constantly give you money and a period where you won't win and the machine will keep taking your money. The key is knowing the periods, it's like stocks....you will never "hit it", it's more intuition and "how you see things sliding".

Some machines payout all night long. I remember playing one fucking machine from 10pm until 5am. Got a nice payout. Whenever I saw the non-winning period I would step back and let another sucker lose their money until they got pissed and left....I would lose some money but eventually the machine starting spitting money again.

Also, as I just mentioned, there will be people watching you closely if they see you win a lot. They will sit near you and wait until you leave so they can start playing the machine. Use this to your advantage when you see the slot not spitting money. Some are sneaky little fuckers, one tried to get on my seat just as I got up and tried to take my ID out. At this point I had a casino member and a cop on lock so they told the chinese lady to fuck off. I got them on lock by kept giving them a "tip" every time they delivered a prize that only a casino staff member could give, which happens above $1,200; and because the bitch I went was a regular down there.

Also, check the ticket cashing machines to see what's the limit they will give without an ID. Don't let any of your ticket stubs go above this limit unless you want them to be reported to the IRS. You will pay a tax on them at the end of the year, or you can pay them right there if you do not have an ID. Unfortunately there is no way to avoid this if you hit a prize above 1,200 in the slots. The slot will stop playing and an attendant will come to ask for ID, then will come with a cop to give you your money. Do not leave the area when the attendant leaves to get your money, this will invalidate your prize. Also, when the attendant comes with the popo, give them a tip for faster service. Time is money here, and you will get additional "play" cash on the house so one should put that to good use.

Also, if you see the machine not giving any money cash out, then put the ticket stub or fresh money back in. If you have a players card, switch it out once in a while. This will confuse the machine and think it's a new person, which will probably change the probabilities.

There was this one time where I played the 100 slot and got a lucky hit for $1200 bucks. That was pure luck so I grabbed my cash and left to other slots. Always, almost always max bet!! You will facepalm so many times when you bet one or bet two, only for the best characters show up and you missed out because you didn't max bet. I let a 20K prize go because I was too lazy to put in an additional 20 dollars. Bet one when you're in a losing streak. As I mentioned, certain machines will give out cash throughout the night and you will see people come and go, trying to test your luck. The best thing is to measure the winning/losing wave.

Call it what you want but what I just wrote is what worked for me.



That was half the winnings in one night just playing slots on a Thursday night. Friday and Saturday were composed of getting a hotel and getting fucked up. Those winnings were by playing the max bet, 15 bucks most of the time.

Post: #2

Lets look at the facts though. Slot machines are known to have the lowest probability of winning. Slot machines also probably rake in the most amount of money ( I don't know what its like in the US but its a joke how much slots in bars and pubs rake in with just a few machines in Australia.)

Casino games like slots give random results with the odds always in the casinos favour. With randomness though comes streaks or periods of good and bad swings of luck which you refer to as 'payout period'. You are playing a dangerous game and this stuff isn't exact science and unless you have some 'system' you have developed very few people could do this.

If anything this post encourages gambling addicts to head back to the casino..

Some people are just luckier than others.

Post: #3

A couple more pics from the winnings:





I'm sure a hater out there will try to reverse search the pics. Good luck, I never shared them until now.

Post: #4

Just as Cattle Rustler said, ALWAYS play the max on a machine. I'll also add to stay away from the penny shit as you'll look like a stupid cheap ass tourist and the odds of hitting on one of those is steeper than MT Everest.

People hitting but not playing max stories are legion in Las Vegas and the player's reactions sometimes have become casino legends. Where i worked down in Primm (45 miles south of Vegas) we had a time some years back where a middle aged Korean guy was playing the Megabucks machine (A multi casino, statewide progressive) and went off to to go get more cash. He told his wife to just sit there and hold the machine, but don't touch ANYTHING.

You know where this is going.

Sure enough she played $1 instead of the $3 max and hit the big one! So here comes hubby running back all excited and shit until he saw that she only played the single dollar. Want to know how much she blew by being miss cheapskate? She blew a $10,000,000 payoff. Yes. Ten MILLION dollars! She was only going to get like maybe, 2-5000, i forget. Husband was so fucking enraged that he began beating the absolute living hell out of his wife right there in the middle of the casino. Really letting her have it so viciously that no one lifted a finger to help her as this guy was going insane. Blood splattering on everything nearby. She was in deep shit. Finally a pair of security guards jumped him but he fought them off and continued on his wife until they basically grabbed stools and pounded away at him. All the time he was screaming at her that he was divorcing her, she had to get out of the house, he never wanted to see her again, etc, etc.

Moral of story? Max play for max money so you don't get your ass kicked!

Post: #5

(01-06-2015 10:01 PM)DumbfromBirth Wrote:  Lets look at the facts though. Slot machines are known to have the lowest probability of winning. Slot machines also probably rake in the most amount of money ( I don't know what its like in the US but its a joke how much slots in bars and pubs rake in with just a few machines in Australia.)

Casino games like slots give random results with the odds always in the casinos favour. With randomness though comes streaks or periods of good and bad swings of luck which you refer to as 'payout period'. You are playing a dangerous game and this stuff isn't exact science and unless you have some 'system' you have developed very few people could do this.

If anything this post encourages gambling addicts to head back to the casino..

Since I am a recovering gambling addict I don't like this post. I have tried all ways to exploit the system and the only way that was actually doable was counting cards in BJ. But since my casino only has auto shufflers this is now impossible as well and I have given up gambling completely.

I just go to shoot the shit, and have a good time. Winning or trying to pay my bills by playing is not my objective. Hence why I added people should have limits. This lady asked me if I could give her and her friends 30 bucks so they could eat because they spent their paycheck playing to pay bills. I'm sorry, but that's just retarded....I ignored her until she left.

Most importantly, I mentioned " this is what worked for me", which I learned from someone who gambles more than I do (70-90K yearly winnings). Not sure who is right, could be me, could be you, could be the neighbor....but I won using the tactics I wrote. There was a night I went through 1,800 in an hour and left.

Taking a certain amount of money and nothing more is essential, no credit cards, no debit cards. Just the amount you have set apart, your ID, and your car keys

Post: #6

From experience, don't play slots. If you win today it will just fuel the desire to go back and chances are you will eventually loose in the end.

You are better off investing your money.

Post: #7

Given the author, I thought this was going to be a datasheet on getting MILFs at the casino. It's only a thread about how to get me back addicted to gambling.

Post: #8

Interesting write-up, CR. I personally have shit luck at the casinos when I play, so very rarely do I gamble.

Just out of curiosity, if you walked into a casino with $495 ($15x33) what percent of the time do you think you'd walk out of the casino ahead?

Post: #9

I don't want to divulge too much personal info here, but I know people who have lost everything to gambling, so when I read your post, I am admittedly biased. That said...

If slot machines had positive expected value, the casino would cease to exist. Therefore, I am extremely doubtful that there even exists a strategy for slot machines that you could employ in the long run and expect an EV payout over 1.00. (meaning that you could expect greater than 1.00 for every dollar bet). Surely, if it existed, the casino would much sooner change out their machines and update their algorithms to prevent them from losing. Casinos are not in the business of giving you their money, they are in the business of taking it from you and persuading you to come back and believe that you can win. You can't and you won't.

I found this site especially useful in analyzing strategies for different slot machines and common myths associated with them, all of them backed up by the real odds of winning ratios:

http://wizardofodds.com/games/slots/

I'm not some anti-gambling advocate or saying that you can't get any enjoyment out of it, I just don't think that there is any rationale in the idea that you can somehow "hustle" a slot machine or table game. (unless you count cards) I am also naturally curious, how much have you really analyzed your net profits after employing your heuristics? I see the screen caps of those payouts, but then you also said that you have blown through $1800 in an hour. Time period is also another important variable. How long have you been netting this amount of money?

Until presented with some proof of net profit over a reasonable time period, I am going to stick with my own personal data sheet concerning slot machines:

Post: #10

I understand this worked for you, that is what we call variance. Please nobody take your paycheck or rent and go out trying to win at slots. You may win, but if you, it is luck. Pure and simple. Like Cattle posted, take an amount you can lose, but leave any other sources of money at home.

Post: #11

Quote:I just go to shoot the shit, and have a good time. Winning or trying to pay my bills by playing is not my objective. Hence why I added people should have limits.

Can't argue with that. However, there's a lot of incorrect information in your datasheet.

http://wizardofodds.com/ask-the-wizard/s...gressives/

Post: #12

(01-07-2015 12:41 AM)Apollo Wrote:  I don't want to divulge too much personal info here, but I know people who have lost everything to gambling, so when I read your post, I am admittedly biased. That said...

I'm not some anti-gambling advocate or saying that you can't get any enjoyment out of it, I just don't think that there is any rationale in the idea that you can somehow "hustle" a slot machine or table game. (unless you count cards) I am also naturally curious, how much have you really analyzed your net profits after employing your heuristics? I see the screen caps of those payouts, but then you also said that you have blown through $1800 in an hour. Time period is also another important variable. How long have you been netting this amount of money?

Until presented with some proof of net profit over a reasonable time period, I am going to stick with my own personal data sheet concerning slot machines:

1 - You said yourself, you are biased.

2 - I won't divulge my winnings/losses due to things dealing with the IRS. I'll say my losses were 9-14% of my winnings. Long run things turned out very well, keeping self control is key.

I remember stopping at a casino to piss and eat something. Put 50 bucks once, I was down to $6 (or $2), when I suddenly went to $164. I got up and left. Max bet. It's like game, you lose when you put pussy (your income) on a pedestal (slot).

3 - Add 25% for tax purposes, especially if you're given a W-2G.

(01-07-2015 09:54 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  

Quote:I just go to shoot the shit, and have a good time. Winning or trying to pay my bills by playing is not my objective. Hence why I added people should have limits.

Can't argue with that. However, there's a lot of incorrect information in your datasheet.

Once again, I wrote......that is what worked for me.

In another note, at times I'm not even gambling my own money. Whenever I get a $1,200+ prize the attendant gives me credits on the house to play in. So I'm basically playing on the house's money.....which I use to lose and doesn't affect my bottom line. That's easily 80-250 bucks right there.

Post: #13

This thread is surely a pisstake. The machines are designed so you lose money.

You would have to be a fucking moron to follow any advice that tells you to play slots to make money. I'm actually shocked that more posters have not shot him down.

Post: #14

@stevoaus

Its like any sort of gambling though. Majority of people are losing but there are those few that can consistently win and you sort of need a second sense for this. This is the first time I have heard someone winning on slots though..

I still remember the first time I went to a casino when I was 17. I was playing roulette and it was like I had a second sense of what numbers would come up. I put one bet down on one number and it hit. I then waited 10 spins and put another chip down and hit AGAIN. I ended winning $500 picking 5 numbers in total. People on the table didnt understand what the fuck I was doing. There was a guy on the table that was placing chips on 60% of numbers and I placed one chip down I hit and he misses. In roulette (and I guess like in other randomness games) I do believe there can sometimes be a pattern in the randomness depending on the table and the spinner but again there is no science to it, and figuring out the pattern is just as risky as making random bets.

Key is set your limits and play with only recreational money like OP suggested. And if you have an addictive personality not to try this at all. Because you never know when you are winning if you just have (most likely) short-term luck or if its going to continue this way.

But I am sure a few after reading this post would have gone to the casino on the weekend which is bad because I don't condone gambling in anyway anymore.

Post: #15

I'm highly doubtful of the supposed winnings given how erroneous OP's understanding of slots is. Slots are the fastest way to lose money in the casino hands down. There's no "hot" or "cold" period. A random number generator determines if you win. Slots must pay out on a certain percentage of plays by law.

Post: #16

CattleRustler claims to be a winning player of... Slot machines.

Post: #17

(01-08-2015 10:50 AM)Todd LeFondler Wrote:  CattleRustler claims to be a winning player of... Slot machines.

My grandparents used to do what CR talks about. They won quite a bit. They also lost but they seemed to do well enough to continue heading towards to the casino which was great for getting them out of the house.

They had their favorite machines as well.

I don't see much difference from what CR posted to what my grandfather would tell me. It sounds like he played the same way and was going back for years.

I think some of you guys are taking this way more serious than what was intended. No where did I see CR mention this would replace your income. If you like to play slots, try out his sheet.

Post: #18

Slots suck, have terrible odds, and are incredibly boring. I'd much rather play Texas Hold-em when I'm at the casino. At least then it isn't entirely based on luck.

Post: #19

(01-08-2015 11:03 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 10:50 AM)Todd LeFondler Wrote:  CattleRustler claims to be a winning player of... Slot machines.

My grandparents used to do what CR talks about. They won quite a bit. They also lost but they seemed to do well enough to continue heading towards to the casino which was great for getting them out of the house.

They had their favorite machines as well.

I don't see much difference from what CR posted to what my grandfather would tell me. It sounds like he played the same way and was going back for years.

I think some of you guys are taking this way more serious than what was intended. No where did I see CR mention this would replace your income. If you like to play slots, try out his sheet.

Your grandparents would have lost money over the longterm guaranteed.

If anyone thinks there is a way to beat slots I have a bridge to sell them.

If you want to play slots for a bit of fun, go ahead, but to put up a datasheet on it? C'mon.

Post: #20

(01-08-2015 11:06 AM)Todd LeFondler Wrote:  Your grandparents would have lost money over the longterm guaranteed.

If anyone thinks there is a way to beat slots I have a bridge to sell them.

If you want to play slots for a bit of fun, go ahead, but to put up a datasheet on it? C'mon.

Luckily you are not in charge of what is proper and what isn't. Especially from a guy who signed up only a month ago. Where are your data sheets?

My grandparents didn't play every day. They would go out once a month. They had some big winnings.

As for whether they lost or won long term, I'm not so sure. If they were out there every day I could see your point. They went out with 1k and did what CR talked about. They won a lot of money and sometimes they put their winnings back and sometimes they left. They were able to consistently go and play for years so they must have been winning something.

In any case, this thread wasn't about replacing your income.

It was for people who wanted to play slots and CR just related what worked for him. If you're not interested in slots, then you can pass on this thread.

Post: #21

(01-08-2015 11:39 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 11:06 AM)Todd LeFondler Wrote:  Your grandparents would have lost money over the longterm guaranteed.

If anyone thinks there is a way to beat slots I have a bridge to sell them.

If you want to play slots for a bit of fun, go ahead, but to put up a datasheet on it? C'mon.

Luckily you are not in charge of what is proper and what isn't. Especially from a guy who signed up only a month ago. Where are your data sheets?

My grandparents didn't play every day. They would go out once a month. They had some big winnings.

As for whether they lost or won long term, I'm not so sure. If they were out there every day I could see your point. They went out with 1k and did what CR talked about. They won a lot of money and sometimes they put their winnings back and sometimes they left. They were able to consistently go and play for years so they must have been winning something.

In any case, this thread wasn't about replacing your income.

It was for people who wanted to play slots and CR just related what worked for him. If you're not interested in slots, then you can pass on this thread.

What's next? how to use the Martingale system to win big at the casino?

Post: #22

(01-08-2015 11:47 AM)Todd LeFondler Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 11:39 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 11:06 AM)Todd LeFondler Wrote:  Your grandparents would have lost money over the longterm guaranteed.

If anyone thinks there is a way to beat slots I have a bridge to sell them.

If you want to play slots for a bit of fun, go ahead, but to put up a datasheet on it? C'mon.

Luckily you are not in charge of what is proper and what isn't. Especially from a guy who signed up only a month ago. Where are your data sheets?

My grandparents didn't play every day. They would go out once a month. They had some big winnings.

As for whether they lost or won long term, I'm not so sure. If they were out there every day I could see your point. They went out with 1k and did what CR talked about. They won a lot of money and sometimes they put their winnings back and sometimes they left. They were able to consistently go and play for years so they must have been winning something.

In any case, this thread wasn't about replacing your income.

It was for people who wanted to play slots and CR just related what worked for him. If you're not interested in slots, then you can pass on this thread.

What's next? how to use the Martingale system to win big at the casino?

How about you link to your datasheets so we can see what is worthy of posting.

Post: #23

(01-08-2015 11:49 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 11:47 AM)Todd LeFondler Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 11:39 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 11:06 AM)Todd LeFondler Wrote:  Your grandparents would have lost money over the longterm guaranteed.

If anyone thinks there is a way to beat slots I have a bridge to sell them.

If you want to play slots for a bit of fun, go ahead, but to put up a datasheet on it? C'mon.

Luckily you are not in charge of what is proper and what isn't. Especially from a guy who signed up only a month ago. Where are your data sheets?

My grandparents didn't play every day. They would go out once a month. They had some big winnings.

As for whether they lost or won long term, I'm not so sure. If they were out there every day I could see your point. They went out with 1k and did what CR talked about. They won a lot of money and sometimes they put their winnings back and sometimes they left. They were able to consistently go and play for years so they must have been winning something.

In any case, this thread wasn't about replacing your income.

It was for people who wanted to play slots and CR just related what worked for him. If you're not interested in slots, then you can pass on this thread.

What's next? how to use the Martingale system to win big at the casino?

How about you link to your datasheets so we can see what is worthy of posting.

What I have done or haven't done has zero relevance on whether or not you can beat slots.

Post: #24

(01-08-2015 11:52 AM)Todd LeFondler Wrote:  What I have done or haven't done has zero relevance on whether or not you can beat slots.

Sure it does... when you start popping into threads and telling others what should or shouldn't be a datasheet.

You should worry more about contributing instead of telling others what they can post.

Post: #25

(01-08-2015 06:28 AM)Mujeriego Wrote:  I'm highly doubtful of the supposed winnings given how erroneous OP's understanding of slots is. Slots are the fastest way to lose money in the casino hands down. There's no "hot" or "cold" period. A random number generator determines if you win. Slots must pay out on a certain percentage of plays by law.

You are very correct.

But not all machines are set equally. Different areas of the casinos will have payouts adjusted depending on exposure of the area and the number of guests casino management desires to be in a certain area so as to increase the overall business of the entire casino floor. In some places the percentages are adjusted weekly.

Also, see my quote that started this thread. Anyone who's ever worked in a major casino and has even a bit of awareness will tell you about the high roller area. Those are THE loosest machines in any casino on a day to day basis. If you are going to play slots, which i personally consider as strictly for the suckers, play the high end machines. Be forewarned, you are going to require a much, much heavier initial investment and there's no guarantee of profit but the odds and payoff are substantially better than what regular slots have to offer.