Post: #26

(12-29-2014 06:44 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 06:29 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 06:25 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  Other times you go über-direct and flirt and talk shit to them right in front of their man. They don't know how to handle that either. What happens is he'll hold back and try not get heated but trash you later. He's basically pushing her right into your arms.

It's planting the seed. Somewhere down the line she'll throw herself at you. It's like magic.

Oh that's a strong dark play right there. Can backfire easily. You are smooth enough to make that work, but that's a tad risky right there.

My thoughts too - Dark Triad very much. Planting some seed when you don't know her boyfriend is one thing, but doing it right in front of some poor bugger is a step too far for me. It is similar to Leo DiCaprio just hitting on your girlfriend in front of you - chances are he will succeed with the majority of them.

Of course it's possible to do that kind of shit, but why if there is so much pussy to go around?

Because there's nothing sweeter than the forbidden fruit

Post: #27

More of him. Yeah he's pretty smooth and direct. Though I would never run this routine as I don't like bringing up race to girls. Philochko does a lot of this race talk type of game from what I've seen in his videos when he interacts with girls in E. Europe.

He's in Socal so most the girls are going to be polite about the topic since the climate is liberal out there. Would love to seem him run this experiment in Little Rock, Arkansas.

Post: #28

(12-29-2014 06:48 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 06:40 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 06:37 PM)slats7 Wrote:  a disturbing number of girls appeared to be into that guy. I thought only fat white chicks with limited options went the mudshark route.

What is a mudshark?

From Urban Dictionary
Closet Mudshark:
A white chick that may possess a hidden sexual fascination and infatuation with black men. Typically this type of female may be outspoken with her dislike of blacks in the presence of friends, and may act overtly racist, but her actions indicate otherwise.

That's kinda fucked up.

Post: #29

(12-29-2014 06:37 PM)slats7 Wrote:  a disturbing number of girls appeared to be into that guy. I thought only fat white chicks with limited options went the mudshark route.

Eh...I think you're in the wrong place.

The Heartiste blog is:

Post: #30

(12-29-2014 06:50 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  More of him. Yeah he's pretty smooth and direct. Though I would never run this routine as I don't like bringing up race to girls. Philochko does a lot of this race talk type of game from what I've seen in his videos when he interacts with girls in E. Europe.

He's in Socal so most the girls are going to be polite about the topic since the climate is liberal out there. Would love to seem him run this experiment in Little Rock, Arkansas.

Dude is so relaxed it's not funny. It's like he has been cold approaching for 20 years. I enjoyed all these videos so far.

Since he is in Socal, is he one of these guys that probably wants to be an actor someday or is he just one of those guys CMQ talks about when he says guys down there must have very solid game because the competition is fierce?

I also think he could pull almost anywhere in the world. More of a matter of time it takes to get the first one of quality. He strikes me as a stone cold natural, despite him making PUA type approach related vids. He really reminds me of the friends that taught me game. Phil's level of tact, class, and smoothness is nothing compared to his, but I can see the comparisons because of the topics he is discussing.

Post: #31

(12-29-2014 07:05 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Since he is in Socal, is he one of these guys that probably wants to be an actor someday or is he just one of those guys CMQ talks about when he says guys down there must have very solid game because the competition is fierce?

Probably both. A lot of these Socal youtube guys are trying to break into the industry.

Quote:I also think he could pull almost anywhere in the world. More of a matter of time it takes to get the first one of quality. He strikes me as a stone cold natural, despite him making PUA type approach related vids.

Yeah. Only thing he could use work on is his attire. His gear looks kinda high schoolish. If he was a bit more GQ he'd be able to get at higher caliber. Suited up in Vegas, he'd be unstoppable.

Post: #32

I hope this doesn't quickly turn into a race thread...
I realize my post probably didn't help.

Post: #33

There you have it, Speakeasy. Black guys can get white lizards EVEN in America. You can see how it's working for this guy. He's not gooned out or tatted up. He's not even suited and booted. He's just talking to the lizards whereas a lot of guys don't do this.
Another important thing:

He's also catching them off guard by talking to them when most guys do NOT talk to lizards..which is during the day. During this time, they are open to regular conversation and their shields are down.
It's only at night when guys turn into Superman and start mass approaching lizards so by then, many lizards have their wonder woman shields up.

He wasn't that tall, he's not light skinned and he has a scruffy growth of beard. He's just talking to the lizards. Quite a few immigrants (believe he was talking to a Finnish lizard at one point) to work with if you tire of pure American reptiles.

It's possible. Fcuk the Tinder and Okcupid attention whore scores. Go out and there and chat and the numbers will work out. You will end up having fun.

Post: #34

This fella reminds me of guy I grew up with, deep voice at a young age too. Even had the relaxed body language to match

Did not give a fuck, but his schtick worked because his personality was sarcastic and he lived to make people uncomfortable, straight face and all

It has a way of disarming bitch shields that's really magical when you witness it up close

Notice his voice has a command to it well past his years, he's not muttering or having to repeat his lines for his targets. Subtle but important, because having to repeat one's self can take away some of the sting or shock he's looking for...

I tend to disagree with the suited up approach on this college campus, his 'plainness' actually works for him because he blends in. The athletes on campus that actually pull dress like this(sandals and all)

Just some, laid back cat opening chicks with a silver tongue

Post: #35

I'm into fashion more than most, but I definitely think it gets overstated in game, mostly because it's rare you run into girls who are matching your level.

Ultimately, being the best dressed guy in the room often just means you're the best dressed guy in the room.

He's spittin' at these chicks wearing a t-shirt, sweatpants, thick socks, and Nike sandals with a "no fucks given" attitude.

That works really well, unfortunately, a lot of our above and beyond energy gets put into the "try hard" category.

I'm still going to ball out, he didn't approach any dimes, and when you're stepping to beautiful women you need everything in your corner so your swag is on F.

Post: #36

(12-29-2014 08:23 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  This fella reminds me of guy I grew up with, deep voice at a young age too. Even had the relaxed body language to match

Did not give a fuck, but his schtick worked because his personality was sarcastic and he lived to make people uncomfortable, straight face and all

It has a way of disarming bitch shields that's really magical when you witness it up close

Notice his voice has a command to it well past his years, he's not muttering or having to repeat his lines for his targets. Subtle but important, because having to repeat one's self can take away some of the sting or shock he's looking for...

I tend to disagree with the suited up approach on this college campus, his 'plainness' actually works for him because he blends in. The athletes on campus that actually pull dress like this(sandals and all)

Just some, laid back cat opening chicks with a silver tongue

Very astute analysis, and funny, I had a friend very similar. A calm, deep voice and "no fucks given" demeanor goes surprisingly far with women.

Post: #37

Jariel, you raise a valid point regarding clothes being overstated. When I first went to Miami, reading all the threads got me thinking. You gotta wear a blazer, rah rah rah. My <insert family member> told me that Miami is big on appearance. He does the hip hop thing and I don't so I rocked a few blazers, dress shoes, smart jeans or trousers. I tend to think lizards thought I was some kind of corny FBI agent trying to snag some busts so I didn't like the energy I was getting. It was way too formal for me. I recall going to some jam with Nomad downtown and some dude said "how are you doing today sir, I'm the proprietor of this event" and let us in free and bought me a drink.

One night, I thought fcuk it and rocked a tight t-shirt with jeans and went out. I was relaxed and in my natural mode and had much more fun.

Post: #38

(12-29-2014 06:50 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  More of him. Yeah he's pretty smooth and direct. Though I would never run this routine as I don't like bringing up race to girls. Philochko does a lot of this race talk type of game from what I've seen in his videos when he interacts with girls in E. Europe.

He's in Socal so most the girls are going to be polite about the topic since the climate is liberal out there. Would love to seem him run this experiment in Little Rock, Arkansas.

Interesting videos from this cat, dude's demeanor is very chill might be that Cali bud. I recognize almost all of his filming locations. He's filming in West LA, santa monica, culver city and westwood. As I said in another thread LA is one of the better spots for brothas in the US to pull females of all shades, lots of foreign chicks too. Ratios can be bad and logistics suck but there are plenty that are open.

Not to throw salt on this dudes game but Speakeasy brings up a good point. I guarantee a brotha running this kind of game would get much different reactions in Dallas, Memphis, Boston or the Jersey shore.

Post: #39

Black dudes have fallen for the con game that chicks are only down for dudes who look like Drake.

Most chicks who are into Black dudes want real Black dudes, they fantasize about dudes who look like Idris Elba more than they do about these Debarge looking nuccas who come in and out of style like snapbacks, and that's really only because society at large pedastalizes lighter skin.

If you feel that your skin being darker is a problem then it is only a problem because you allow it to be, women sense when you have insecurities so you're losing out on your lack of confidence and sense of self, not because your skin is dark.

All this bullshit about race, skin tone, etc. is nothing more than a hustle, because once you reach a certain stratus of men, you're no longer being rejected because of that.

Post: #40

This thread is over! Jariel has dropped knowledge, again.

Post: #41

This dude has his disqualification game internalized, so I can see why he succeeds the way he does.

Post: #42

(12-29-2014 11:01 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  Not to throw salt on this dudes game but Speakeasy brings up a good point. I guarantee a brotha running this kind of game would get much different reactions in Dallas, Memphis, Boston or the Jersey shore.

That would be interesting to see and pretty easy to try out. As a Mexican guy I kind of want to go down South to really Conservative bible belt places like Oxford, Mississippi, Alabama, or Arkansas and run some game with the Southern white girls. I might just try it out.

Post: #43

I just pulled this up before bed and noticed the thread, had to check it.

Hilarious. "I feel like they look disgusting naked." How much more can you disqualify than that.

Awesome job. I don't care what parts of this I didn't see. This shit is real. The ultimate asshole game (as in asshole *game*, not just being an asshole, but presenting it as part of your character).

I wonder if it'd be tough for a white boy (blonde hair esp) to pull this off. Though I'd guess lizards would even fall into that trap if presented well enough...

"I don't know, I just don't date brunettes (or white girls)....I'm more into brunettes (or asians, or latinas)". Game works on all levels.

Good post

Post: #44

(12-30-2014 12:19 AM)MidWest Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 11:01 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  Not to throw salt on this dudes game but Speakeasy brings up a good point. I guarantee a brotha running this kind of game would get much different reactions in Dallas, Memphis, Boston or the Jersey shore.

That would be interesting to see and pretty easy to try out. As a Mexican guy I kind of want to go down South to really Conservative bible belt places like Oxford, Mississippi, Alabama, or Arkansas and run some game with the Southern white girls. I might just try it out.

Hit me up if you do. I've wanted to try this as well

Post: #45

I knew a guy like that too. He would stop girls everywhere even at night in Hollywood and just talk to them.

One time my cousins friend said she likes black guys and my cousin told him. He went up to the bitch (we were at a party of a mutual friend) held out his hand and said come on let's go. He took her to the nearest room and fucked her.

Post: #46

Just subscribed to his channel. It takes a lot of confidence to approach girls asking for sexting advice and not make it awkward. Respect.

Post: #47

Dude has natural skills for real. I try to employ this nonchalant ass hole game sometimes.

Post: #48

I have a lot of friends in L.A. and they're all trying to get something poppin' in the industry.

Chances are this dude is probably trying to do the same thus he's probably taken acting, improv, etc. classes; all of that training helps with social skills.

His comfort level with approaching and having the types of conversations he's having with these girls is unusual, and his calmness is that of someone who's in character; at this point he's played this role enough times that it appears to have become a part of his personality to the point where you can't even recognize it.

There's a lot of value in studying his work, props are well deserved.

Post: #49

This guys good.

Post: #50

Of course you guys name drop Memphis, obligating me to give you the word on the city.

This guy had nearly all the women in the white girls video in the bag. Only the "oh yea that's totally cool, like you date who you want" funny bodied chick wasn't clearly into him, but it's not like he was missing out. That Canadian girl was mediocre at best. She wanted the D as well, but her problems were in her own way and I have a good idea why that was...

Even though I lack evidence, I thing the girls that freaked out were hyperventilating over being rejected due to ugliness, not because his game and looks weren't good. They aren't accustomed to that level of rejection, so they couldn't handle it.

Those black women were amazing in charisma. I'd love less combative and intense or neurotic black women being the norm in my city. I think he had a lot of them around his finger as well because black women jump at black men that reject them. It's standard game around here. I've seen multiple friends and associates use this play.

(12-30-2014 12:19 AM)MidWest Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 11:01 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  Not to throw salt on this dudes game but Speakeasy brings up a good point. I guarantee a brotha running this kind of game would get much different reactions in Dallas, Memphis, Boston or the Jersey shore.

That would be interesting to see and pretty easy to try out. As a Mexican guy I kind of want to go down South to really Conservative bible belt places like Oxford, Mississippi, Alabama, or Arkansas and run some game with the Southern white girls. I might just try it out.

Eh, I've been to Oxford, MS. on several occasions. What I say in Oxford leads me to believe that your time would be better spent in the southern half of Mississippi, Memphis or North/Northeast Arkansas. The atmosphere of Ole Miss may be ultra Dixie sorority for most people tastes. I saw with my own eyes that the women tend to be on the very skinny side or have that terrible titles/assless fat girl shape. Those were more commonly seen than midrange to thick women of assorted races. It's very stereotypical white chick down there, but there is a unusual amount of redheads and strawberry blondes at Oxford if that's your thing. If you like the whitest of white girls, Oxford is your place. Can't say I'll be seeing you down there.

If you can't get laid in the Mississippi coastal cities or close proximity to them, then you're just not trying. I'm not sure what general tactics to use to approach done there because I had social circles and was at casinos on my occasions. the women aren't bad looking thought and pretty cool.

Memphis white chicks ARE RESPONSIVE to black men. you'd be surprised how many cowgirl/redneck esque white women have admitted in heartwarming acceptance to me that they're not judgmental about skin color. Even "whitechicks" white women are open to black men here, but some of them are crossovers from the hipster/SJW feminism collectives so vet them carefully. More conservative white women tend to dislike ghetto or hip hop association. Common white women are conditioned from negatives from the city's "urban" residences. Memphis's gangs and hoods are no joke and possible association with this element puts people on edge/immediately disqualifies with the classiest women. There is a large degree of racial mixing compared to other places I've been that would be assumed to be friendlier.


My data on Arkansas is inconclusive. I do have a 'frequency from deep space' in a way. I've met a lot of biracial kids with white moms from Arkansas.