Post: #126

Would love to hear about Veracruz. I've always wanted to stop for a day or two to see what it is but always end up driving through. Next year I'll try to make a DF and Veracruz trip.

Post: #127

I looked at tinder in veracruz, nothing special, probably slightly lower then D.F.

Im curious about Leon, since Aguascalientes, Zacatacas, Guadalajara all had decent talent

Post: #128

The food and smog make it smell terrible here.

Btw, dont stay by the airport, ive gotten sick twice there in a total of 2 days

Post: #129

Belize King!! Where you been at bro?

Post: #130

Southwest got me working hard. It's Chitown and Fort Lauderdale last few weeks. Ready for a mexico overnight.

Post: #131

2nd lay in 3 days but still not very impressed. Getting lots of hotties on tinder now who match me, but flaking seems incredibly high. The average girl in the city is ugly though, but as said before the sheer size of the city and certain neighborhoods make it a good city for gaming. I also find the asses to be very flat here for latina standards. Still have to check out the serious nightlife here, hopefully that can give my impression of the city so far a boost.

Post: #132

Hi Travesty,

sorry for the late reply, Yes i'm still around and probably headed back to Mexico soon, I'm currently in Santiago de los caballeros, dominican republic

Regarding Guadalajara and how hard it is to day game,
I lived there for 5 months, during which I analyzed, and studied game, studied Spanish and the Univ. of Guadalajara, and studied baiting and worked on approaches daily. Honestly it was my first venture into heavy day gaming so take it with a grain of salt.

here's the situation on what makes it tough:

1) Logistically it appears like an awesome place but it's not,
it's spread out into 4 cuadrants, and each is a solid 20 minutes or more from the other cuadrant by bus, without traffic. The best place to live would be by Chapultepec, because of its central location but girls in GDL are a bit spoiled, i'd say 75% who live in Zappopan won't come to Chapultepec to see you, girls in centro will. If you lived in Zappopan you would get access to the hottest girls in town who live in Zappopan but also you can't walk around to places like in Centro or in Chapultepec. If you live in Centro, it's shady at night and no girls from other parts will visit you. So it's one collosal Catch-22 unlike any other city i've encountered. If you had a car there you would be set.

2) Desconfianza: When the Mexican government cleaned up the drug situation about 10 years ago, they placed a lot of the blame on Americans. They needed a scapegoat, they pushed tons of news about Americans killing/raping and doing other things to Guadalajara people in the news. For some reason, today in GDL, there is a heavy anti-american sentiment. You will not realize it right away, but you'll feel it after a while. If you are blonde-haired blue eyed, young and innocent, you won't see much, but if not, expect heavy distrust by girls there. This means, that if a girl likes you, engages with you, gives you here number, 75% or higher of the time, she still won't see you in person on the date. I went on some dates where the girl either didn't show up or told me to meet here somewhere and was hiding behind a tree and checking me out. Sometimes I'd see them do this and I'd catch them. Further, a lot of girls won't give you their number because of this desconfianza. Even worse, a ton of online girls won't see you in reality, even if they think you're hot. From getting the number to seeing the girl you can lose 90% of your prospects in GDL. I tried Skyping, Whatsapp voice messages, heavy teasing, negging, ignoring, DHV'ing with plenty of pictures and money, whatever I could do to increase my value, there was hardly a budge.

3) Racism/Skin-color: I hate to play this card, but GDL is a very unique place. This is simply not Colombia where all colors are mixed and you'll see plenty of light-skinned /dark-skinned couples. It is also not the U.S. where mixed race couples are almost the norm these days. This is a fairly backwards-mentality city which appears to be modern and normal on the surface. The women have very light skin and they are proud of their skin color and are ashamed to be seen with other people of dark skin color, unless they are exoticly good looking (darker black guys can do well in GDL). I have medium to light brown skin , i'm half indian and half white but i look a bit Brazilian with very American style and height. I did very well in Colombia and in the D.R. but in GDL on many dates I realized that the girl was embarrased to be seen with me in public, or, although she thought I was very attractive, she was superficially ashamed to be seen with someone of my skin color. In L.A., where the society is very superficial., you sometimes may date a hot girl just so you can show here off to your friends and be proud of yoursellf that you're dating her, but she may not be that good in bed and the relationship may suck. This is the society in GDL but it's even worse, because they are elitist and 1) don't want to be seen even talking to a foreigner and people will talk badly about them if they are seen with a foreigner 2) if you're not a foreigner from a higher class than them (in their eyes blonde hair , blue eyes) you're actually lower class to them. I displayed that I had money, well-dressed, and good looking. It doesn't matter. It's not a poor city, they've seen tons of money from druglords.

On the positive, note, where to day game, I had success day gaming the Zappopan malls and thought I would bang those girls, but no. The desconfianza and skin-color thing is very very bad in GDL. My biggest successes were Centro, 16 de Septiembre in front of Fabrica de Francia. The girls walking around there are young, more liberal, and less influenced by L.A. and American values. Also, you can find some slightly darker skinned girls who are very good looking but the majority of guys because of the racism/skin color thing above, pass by. I ran into several in the shops in the Centro.

When I went to D.F. for example, I had a very different experience, the girls there already know and expect that there are Americans visiting. Even if the girl has never dated a foreigner, she had an understanding that they were generally good people, with money. Light-skinned girls in D.F. have no problem dating dark-skinned guys there and yes, there are plenty of light-skinned girls, contrary to popular belief. I did find that GDL had the most beautiful women in terms of faces that i had seen in my travels. I've lived all over Colombia and the D.R. While Medellin girls are hot, the GDL girls have a natural hotness to them. In the last few days I was in the GDL, I did some heavy direct street game around Chapultepec. Again you can get plenty of numbers from this and think the interactions will go well, but the girls don't end up wanting to meet you. It gets frustrating.

I want to return back to Mexico in the coming months but will likely hit up some of the smaller cities where Americans have strong value and without the negativity of GDL (e.g. Guanajato) or the opposite like Monterrey (where they already accept and try to be like Americans).

Hope this helps

(10-16-2015 05:34 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

(03-20-2015 10:23 AM)fvitterbi Wrote:  Guys,

Good initial forum posts, useful data, Americas, good advice on day game, key in a huge city.

I'm off to D.F. to see if I like it for 2 weeks, if I do i'll be back to stay for a few months,

Looking for people to day game/ wing/ night game, whatever,
If you're down to meet up sometime, or need a wing as well,
or are willing to grab a beer, my treat, and talk game,
hit me up with your whatsapp,

i'm in tough and closed-off Guadalajara now, been here for months,
where i had to day game for hours to get 1 useful number,
so I'm ready to turn this sh*t up in D.F.

If you're still around please give an update on how D.F. went. Also if you could expand a bit on how hard it is to day game in GDL thanks.

Post: #133

Just had an 8 hour layover in Mexico City, DF. I took the metro into the center, walked around and saw some sites. My observations...

-There's good, cheap food.
-The vibe of people is generally very nice verging on friendly.
-The average quality of women is 5, which means I saw everything from 2s to 9s. Kind of reminds me of California in this regard.
- I got eye fucked a ton, more so than any place I've been in the last year including Manilla and Bangkok. I even got a huge smile from the only 9 I saw. Seems the ladys like tall, well dressed foreign guys here.
- The quality on tinder seems high, but so far I only have 2 matches.

Overall it seems like it would be a cool place to visit or stay for a while but there are cooler places so personally I wouldn't go out of my way to come back.

Post: #134

(01-10-2016 03:26 PM)Robert Plant Wrote:  Just had an 8 hour layover in Mexico City, DF. I took the metro into the center, walked around and saw some sites. My observations...

-There's good, cheap food.
-The vibe of people is generally very nice verging on friendly.
-The average quality of women is 5, which means I saw everything from 2s to 9s. Kind of reminds me of California in this regard.
- I got eye fucked a ton, more so than any place I've been in the last year including Manilla and Bangkok. I even got a huge smile from the only 9 I saw. Seems the ladys like tall, well dressed foreign guys here.
- The quality on tinder seems high, but so far I only have 2 matches.

Overall it seems like it would be a cool place to visit or stay for a while but there are cooler places so personally I wouldn't go out of my way to come back.

You went to the center where the quality isn't that great on average. Next time hit La condesa or Polanco to see some real stunners walking around.

-CD

Post: #135

(01-10-2016 03:26 PM)Robert Plant Wrote:  Just had an 8 hour layover in Mexico City, DF. I took the metro into the center, walked around and saw some sites. My observations...

-There's good, cheap food.
-The vibe of people is generally very nice verging on friendly.
-The average quality of women is 5, which means I saw everything from 2s to 9s. Kind of reminds me of California in this regard.
- I got eye fucked a ton, more so than any place I've been in the last year including Manilla and Bangkok. I even got a huge smile from the only 9 I saw. Seems the ladys like tall, well dressed foreign guys here.
- The quality on tinder seems high, but so far I only have 2 matches.

Overall it seems like it would be a cool place to visit or stay for a while but there are cooler places so personally I wouldn't go out of my way to come back.

What neighborhoods did you hit? You can use metro stations too to list the area.

Polanco, Lomas, Interlomas, Pedregales has fine bitches all around. Condesa and Roma too if you're feeling more middle class.

Post: #136

I was just in the Centro Historico as I only had a few hours.

Post: #137

(01-10-2016 10:11 PM)Robert Plant Wrote:  I was just in the Centro Historico as I only had a few hours.

Centro Historico has a lot going on even if you are there just for a few hours. If looking for hotter girls try one of the many museums instead of the streets. Bars and venues in centro usually are either punk-goth sinkholes, hipster hangouts, or middle to low-class affairs. The best bet there would be Spains cultural centre behind the Cathedral. They have jazz nights every week and a popular international hostel right next door rife with german and swedish backpackers.

Post: #138

(01-10-2016 10:33 PM)germanico Wrote:  

(01-10-2016 10:11 PM)Robert Plant Wrote:  I was just in the Centro Historico as I only had a few hours.

Centro Historico has a lot going on even if you are there just for a few hours. If looking for hotter girls try one of the many museums instead of the streets. Bars and venues in centro usually are either punk-goth sinkholes, hipster hangouts, or middle to low-class affairs. The best bet there would be Spains cultural centre behind the Cathedral. They have jazz nights every week and a popular international hostel right next door rife with german and swedish backpackers.

Que tan faciles son las Alemanas y Suecas para aflojar?

Post: #139

(01-10-2016 10:46 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Que tan faciles son las Alemanas y Suecas para aflojar?

Como con la mayoría de las mochileras, mientras tengas la logística resuelta y te quedes hasta el final, ya chingaste.

She will get laid that night if she wants to (and thats the whole reason they travel), just make sure its you. Just be the coolest cat around (easy enough, honestly, most backpacker dudes dress like children and cant hold a decent conversation) and have somewhere to pull her (instead of some hostel where they wont let you have women over, for example)

Havnt got a swedish flag yet, buts thats how I would do it.

Post: #140

Will anybody be in Mexico City (D.F.) in February? I'm planning a trip for Thursday through Sunday on one of the weeks in February and wanted to see if anybody is available to meet up. Tentatively these are the places i'm planning on going out at for nightlife. Any other suggestions are appreciated.

* Thursday - Condesa
- Pata Negra
- Rhodesia

* Friday - Colonia Roma Norte
- Patrick Miller
- Antro Eve Condesa

* Saturday - Polanco
- Barezzito
- Plaza Antara Mall - 1st Ragga

Post: #141

Pata Negra, Rhodesia, Patrick Miller and Ragga are sure bets. Barezzito is a franchise operation, they push hard for you to spend money and most girls will be in large groups, so it will be harder to pull. Eve, if its the one I think it is, is a stuck up place where it might be harder to get through the door if you are rolling solo.

I might be in DF around that time, PM me when you are there.

Post: #142

(01-10-2016 10:33 PM)germanico Wrote:  

(01-10-2016 10:11 PM)Robert Plant Wrote:  I was just in the Centro Historico as I only had a few hours.

Centro Historico has a lot going on even if you are there just for a few hours. If looking for hotter girls try one of the many museums instead of the streets. Bars and venues in centro usually are either punk-goth sinkholes, hipster hangouts, or middle to low-class affairs. The best bet there would be Spains cultural centre behind the Cathedral. They have jazz nights every week and a popular international hostel right next door rife with german and swedish backpackers.

Wholeheartedly agree on the shitty nightlife side of centro histórico.

During the day, Av. Francisco I. Madero (that starts from the Torre Latinoamericana) is frequented by all kinds of people. Only thing I hate is the insane number of pamphlet givers trying to push their services selling prescription glasses and shit. As obstacles, they make concentration difficult when daygaming.

Post: #143

(01-11-2016 01:32 AM)germanico Wrote:  

(01-10-2016 10:46 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Que tan faciles son las Alemanas y Suecas para aflojar?

Como con la mayoría de las mochileras, mientras tengas la logística resuelta y te quedes hasta el final, ya chingaste.

She will get laid that night if she wants to (and thats the whole reason they travel), just make sure its you. Just be the coolest cat around (easy enough, honestly, most backpacker dudes dress like children and cant hold a decent conversation) and have somewhere to pull her (instead of some hostel where they wont let you have women over, for example)

Havnt got a swedish flag yet, buts thats how I would do it.

Talk vez los Latinos la tengamos más fácil aquí con las mochileras, pues ya sabes a lo que vienen. Tampoco tengo mi bandera sueca pero he escuchado que son ponedoras.

Post: #144

(01-11-2016 05:54 PM)topdog Wrote:  During the day, Av. Francisco I. Madero (that starts from the Torre Latinoamericana) is frequented by all kinds of people. Only thing I hate is the insane number of pamphlet givers trying to push their services selling prescription glasses and shit. As obstacles, they make concentration difficult when daygaming.

Madero is the shittiest place for daygaming. Too crowded, talent is scarce and on the defensive, and venues there are lame. The DF "PUA" community seems to love it though, but they are 95% childish dorks. Walk a few long blocks to Reforma and you will be on better hunting grounds

If you definitely cant go anywhere, walk one (just one) block north to Cinco de Mayo. Its less crowded and you will find some decent office workers on their lunch breaks.

A better option would be to walk a few (I think 7) blocks south to the Regina walkway. Theres a college campus there, a couple hostels, and slightly better bars. Plus, its an untapped place for pick up, so competition would be nill.

Post: #145

(01-11-2016 06:58 AM)germanico Wrote:  Pata Negra, Rhodesia, Patrick Miller and Ragga are sure bets. Barezzito is a franchise operation, they push hard for you to spend money and most girls will be in large groups, so it will be harder to pull. Eve, if its the one I think it is, is a stuck up place where it might be harder to get through the door if you are rolling solo.

I might be in DF around that time, PM me when you are there.

That sounds great. It would be nice to connect with someone from the forum while i'm out there.

Are you familiar with Club Eve Condesa? It's in Colonia Roma Norte. The girls look really good (at least from the Facebook page). There doesn't seem to be too much information on the forum about Colonia Roma Norte.
https://www.facebook.com/evecondesamex/timeline

Also, would you suggest any other spot besides Barrezzito on Saturday? The idea is to find a good warm-up/pre-game spot before hitting up Ragga.

Post: #146

Will be moving here for one year starting March!

Post: #147

(01-11-2016 05:33 AM)MyFabolousLife Wrote:  Will anybody be in Mexico City (D.F.) in February? I'm planning a trip for Thursday through Sunday on one of the weeks in February and wanted to see if anybody is available to meet up. Tentatively these are the places i'm planning on going out at for nightlife. Any other suggestions are appreciated.

* Thursday - Condesa
- Pata Negra
- Rhodesia

* Friday - Colonia Roma Norte
- Patrick Miller
- Antro Eve Condesa

* Saturday - Polanco
- Barezzito
- Plaza Antara Mall - 1st Ragga

Pata Negra is my spot I went there on a random Tuesday for some food and drinks with a girl, next thing i Know they started moving away the tables a dj setup and it was a party all of a sudden and the palce was popping. I ended up going therr 3/4 times music was cool, really easy to pull, only negative is the place is a bit small and hot as shit.

Post: #148

Hey guys I'll be in Mexico City tomorrow for a few days, if anyone is around/keen to grab a beer just shoot me a PM.

Post: #149

(01-11-2016 05:33 AM)MyFabolousLife Wrote:  * Saturday - Polanco
- Barezzito
- Plaza Antara Mall - 1st Ragga

The Condesa/Roma ones that you mentioned are all solid. Barezzito is a cool venue, but mind you that social circle game is the way to go there. And stay away from Ragga- unless you want to bed fifteen year old fresas.

Post: #150

(01-28-2016 09:42 PM)pipercub Wrote:  

(01-11-2016 05:33 AM)MyFabolousLife Wrote:  * Saturday - Polanco
- Barezzito
- Plaza Antara Mall - 1st Ragga

The Condesa/Roma ones that you mentioned are all solid. Barezzito is a cool venue, but mind you that social circle game is the way to go there. And stay away from Ragga- unless you want to bed fifteen year old fresas.

My Trip is set. I will be in Mexico City February 11th - February 15th. Anyone who will be there at this time, let me know so we can meet up.

In terms of the Roma Norte spots I picked out, have you been to (Antro) Eve Condesa, if so how was it?

If 1st Ragga is more geared towards younger teenagers then is there a better spot that you would recommend on Saturday?