Post: #76

Americas can you recommend the best state to travel in Mexico?

Criteria:
All cities within 2-3 hours by bus
Less visited by foreigners

Post: #77

(01-20-2015 06:24 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  When I was last down there in 2013, my mom kept emailing me every other day to make sure I was alive, it's crazy how afraid Americans are of Mexico outside the beach resorts.

Haha wow. Same happen to me not only with family, but higher ups at my grad school caught wind I was spending some time in Mexico on breaks and they even went as far as to message me and ask was I okay 0_o

Post: #78

(01-20-2015 07:33 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  Americas can you recommend the best state to travel in Mexico?

Criteria:
All cities within 2-3 hours by bus
Less visited by foreigners

With those two criterion (in no particular order):

1) Colima (Colima/Manzanillo): This is a pretty tiny state that is located on the Pacific side north of Michoacan and south of Jalisco. Colima is a cute little city but probably not anything special. Only spent an afternoon there and ate some pretty bomb ass food. Manzanillo has a bit of tourist base, but for beach cities it's super low key. If you are into fishing (I'm not personally) it has some of the best trophy fishing in the Americas. Seems like it hit a bit of boom in the 80s or something, but never really turned into a big tourist destination.

2) Michoacan (Zitacuaro/Morelia/Patzcuaro): Michoacan is a gem of a state, probably up there as my favourite with San Luis Potosi. Morelia is a really cool colonial town. I was there with my girlfriend, but I just had that "feeling" you get that there is some really fantastic gaming potential. Lots of cute girls walking around and I would think gringo factor would be high there. Patzcuaro is a great place to take a fling or girlfriend, it's a super cool colonial town right beside a lake. I saw a weird ass Mexican parade, a fighter jet show, and a big fair while I was there for two nights. Great cultural spot and this area is huge during the Day of the Dead. Zitacuaro has a huge migration of Monarch butterflies every year that would be cool to see. Michoacan in general is absolutely gorgeous, both the countryside and the coast. There is a town called Maruata that is completely deserted but one of the most gorgeous beaches I have ever seen and bomb ass fresh seafood. Stayed in a bungalow one night there and it was fantastic.

3) Veracruz (Veracruz/Xalapa/Boca del Rio): Veracruz is kind of a shit hole but has a dark side to it. I fucked a girl off couchsurfing there and I was getting eyefucked everywhere I went in that city. Boca del Rio is a bit more touristy but is a lot more upscale, even then it's mostly Mexicans and older people. Nice beaches there. Xalapa is a fantastic third-tier city in Mexico. Pretty clean and organized, some of the most beautiful girls in the country, and is a university hub. I really liked this city and spent a few days there but was unfortunately going through a bout of Montezuma's Revenge.

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If you want to get off the beaten track of Mexico I highly suggest renting a car. It's quite cheap in Mexico especially if you start and finish in DF. I have rented a car twice in Mexico and both times probably paid just a hair more than I would have buying bus tickets. Mexican highways are pretty solid especially the toll highways. Having a car allows you to go to states in the Central-North area where cities are more spread out and you get to see the countryside better. It also allows you to hit up multiple states.

For example, I rented a car and did San Luis Potosi, I went from desert, to farmland, to jungle valleys and it was fantastic. Wouldn't have been possible by bus in the time frame that I had.

Post: #79

(01-16-2015 03:17 PM)germanico Wrote:  

(01-15-2015 02:13 PM)PittFighter Wrote:  There is minimal tourism from the US

Que?

Germanico--
Allow me to clarify...
I would expect an enormous city this awesome and this accessible to the US to be overrun with Americans. And it was not so. I was in the tourist areas all day. I saw very few small groups of Americans. So my point is that it is not as multi-national as say, NYC, LA or large cities in Europe. I really would expect more for such an awesome city. I do not know the statistics, so you may be correct. I am only commenting on my admittedly brief experience there. To add to my perception of a low expat population, I was stared at in Mexico City.

I could be way off. I'll be going back there soon so we shall see.

Post: #80

(01-20-2015 07:33 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  Americas can you recommend the best state to travel in Mexico?

Criteria:
All cities within 2-3 hours by bus
Less visited by foreigners

I don't think choosing a state is the best way to find what you're looking for since many of the states are small. If you want a central location with lots of other non-touristy cities within 2-3 hours I'd recommend a central place like Leon.

Leon itself is a pretty large city with practically zero tourism. From there in 2-3 hours you could reach other large cities like Guadalajara, Queretaro, Aguascalientes, Morelia, San Luis Potosi. There are also lots of smaller cities within reach like Guanajuato, Zacatecas, Irapuato, Salamanca, Celaya, etc.

Post: #81

(01-21-2015 02:25 AM)PittFighter Wrote:  I would expect an enormous city this awesome and this accessible to the US to be overrun with Americans. And it was not so. I was in the tourist areas all day. I saw very few small groups of Americans. So my point is that it is not as multi-national as say, NYC, LA or large cities in Europe. I really would expect more for such an awesome city. I do not know the statistics, so you may be correct. I am only commenting on my admittedly brief experience there. To add to my perception of a low expat population, I was stared at in Mexico City.

I could be way off. I'll be going back there soon so we shall see.

I think it's fairly accurate. If you spend enough time in Polanco, La Condesa, and Colonia Roma you will see a fair amount of expats, but not a lot of American tourists.

Centro has it's fair share of tourists near the Zocalo, Bellas Artes, and Chapultepec Park, but you won't see many if you go out of that region (besides places like Xochimilco).

I live in the north region of Delegacion Miguel Hidalgo and I can go 2-3 months without seeing any tourists/gringos whatsoever. Hell I can go to some local markets near my apartment and get the "what the hell is this white guy doing here" look. The vast majority of DF is untouched by tourists. It's really only the Centro and higher-end neighbourhoods where you will see tourists or expats.

Post: #82

(01-21-2015 11:12 AM)Americas Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 02:25 AM)PittFighter Wrote:  I would expect an enormous city this awesome and this accessible to the US to be overrun with Americans. And it was not so. I was in the tourist areas all day. I saw very few small groups of Americans. So my point is that it is not as multi-national as say, NYC, LA or large cities in Europe. I really would expect more for such an awesome city. I do not know the statistics, so you may be correct. I am only commenting on my admittedly brief experience there. To add to my perception of a low expat population, I was stared at in Mexico City.

I could be way off. I'll be going back there soon so we shall see.

I think it's fairly accurate. If you spend enough time in Polanco, La Condesa, and Colonia Roma you will see a fair amount of expats, but not a lot of American tourists.

Centro has it's fair share of tourists near the Zocalo, Bellas Artes, and Chapultepec Park, but you won't see many if you go out of that region (besides places like Xochimilco).

I live in the north region of Delegacion Miguel Hidalgo and I can go 2-3 months without seeing any tourists/gringos whatsoever. Hell I can go to some local markets near my apartment and get the "what the hell is this white guy doing here" look. The vast majority of DF is untouched by tourists. It's really only the Centro and higher-end neighbourhoods where you will see tourists or expats.

I stayed in a hotel in Zona Rosa (a fairly central area). Even people who worked at the hotel kind of stared at me. I walked around the museums and Gran Catedral and got some stares. This added to my perception of low international traffic.

Perhaps foreigners who come to DF for business reasons just go to their meetings and stay in their hotels without venturing out too much? I'm not sure.

I did go to one bar in Condesa that had a lot of expats but it was still perhaps only 10-15% expat clientele.

Post: #83

(01-22-2015 03:23 PM)PittFighter Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 11:12 AM)Americas Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 02:25 AM)PittFighter Wrote:  I would expect an enormous city this awesome and this accessible to the US to be overrun with Americans. And it was not so. I was in the tourist areas all day. I saw very few small groups of Americans. So my point is that it is not as multi-national as say, NYC, LA or large cities in Europe. I really would expect more for such an awesome city. I do not know the statistics, so you may be correct. I am only commenting on my admittedly brief experience there. To add to my perception of a low expat population, I was stared at in Mexico City.

I could be way off. I'll be going back there soon so we shall see.

I think it's fairly accurate. If you spend enough time in Polanco, La Condesa, and Colonia Roma you will see a fair amount of expats, but not a lot of American tourists.

Centro has it's fair share of tourists near the Zocalo, Bellas Artes, and Chapultepec Park, but you won't see many if you go out of that region (besides places like Xochimilco).

I live in the north region of Delegacion Miguel Hidalgo and I can go 2-3 months without seeing any tourists/gringos whatsoever. Hell I can go to some local markets near my apartment and get the "what the hell is this white guy doing here" look. The vast majority of DF is untouched by tourists. It's really only the Centro and higher-end neighbourhoods where you will see tourists or expats.

I stayed in a hotel in Zona Rosa (a fairly central area). Even people who worked at the hotel kind of stared at me. I walked around the museums and Gran Catedral and got some stares. This added to my perception of low international traffic.

Perhaps foreigners who come to DF for business reasons just go to their meetings and stay in their hotels without venturing out too much? I'm not sure.

I did go to one bar in Condesa that had a lot of expats but it was still perhaps only 10-15% expat clientele.

What is your ethnic background? I got stares too, but since they were not hostile stares I enjoyed the attention. Especially knowing that back home standing out is near impossible.

Post: #84

(01-22-2015 04:05 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 03:23 PM)PittFighter Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 11:12 AM)Americas Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 02:25 AM)PittFighter Wrote:  I would expect an enormous city this awesome and this accessible to the US to be overrun with Americans. And it was not so. I was in the tourist areas all day. I saw very few small groups of Americans. So my point is that it is not as multi-national as say, NYC, LA or large cities in Europe. I really would expect more for such an awesome city. I do not know the statistics, so you may be correct. I am only commenting on my admittedly brief experience there. To add to my perception of a low expat population, I was stared at in Mexico City.

I could be way off. I'll be going back there soon so we shall see.

I think it's fairly accurate. If you spend enough time in Polanco, La Condesa, and Colonia Roma you will see a fair amount of expats, but not a lot of American tourists.

Centro has it's fair share of tourists near the Zocalo, Bellas Artes, and Chapultepec Park, but you won't see many if you go out of that region (besides places like Xochimilco).

I live in the north region of Delegacion Miguel Hidalgo and I can go 2-3 months without seeing any tourists/gringos whatsoever. Hell I can go to some local markets near my apartment and get the "what the hell is this white guy doing here" look. The vast majority of DF is untouched by tourists. It's really only the Centro and higher-end neighbourhoods where you will see tourists or expats.

I stayed in a hotel in Zona Rosa (a fairly central area). Even people who worked at the hotel kind of stared at me. I walked around the museums and Gran Catedral and got some stares. This added to my perception of low international traffic.

Perhaps foreigners who come to DF for business reasons just go to their meetings and stay in their hotels without venturing out too much? I'm not sure.

I did go to one bar in Condesa that had a lot of expats but it was still perhaps only 10-15% expat clientele.

What is your ethnic background? I got stares too, but since they were not hostile stares I enjoyed the attention. Especially knowing that back home standing out is near impossible.

I am black American. On the lighter side. Lighter than many Mexicans in DF. I agree; the stares were not hostile.

Post: #85

How is Tinder in Mexico City?

Post: #86

Same question i guess tinder is working pretty well as Whatapps ! I do have to find a sim card with 3g when i get there !

Post: #87

I used Tinder in DF. Lots of ladies on it.

Post: #88

For you daygamers out there:

I think one of the best places to daygame in DF is Plaza Carso. There's two malls there. Start in Antara (in between Av. Ejercito Nacional and Miguel de Cervantes) and walk around, take the back entrance to Plaza Carso. There is the mall there and also Souyama Musuem which is free to enter. Lots of nice talent in this area. The best time to go is in the later afternoon around 4-7 when many of the girls are getting off work.

Post: #89

How is the English proficiency in DF? Do a lot of Mexicans know English? or at least some? or do you need to have some Spanish under your belt to get by?

Post: #90

I think in DF / Cancun / Playa del carmen no hay problema but for small city it can be .... I will find out

Maybe they can speak french ? Who know[/size]

Post: #91

Any players want to meet up next friday(feb 6th) in DF send me a PM

Post: #92

(01-27-2015 06:56 AM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  How is the English proficiency in DF? Do a lot of Mexicans know English? or at least some? or do you need to have some Spanish under your belt to get by?

You will be limited.

The more you know then the larger your dating pool will be.

Post: #93

(01-27-2015 06:56 AM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  How is the English proficiency in DF? Do a lot of Mexicans know English? or at least some? or do you need to have some Spanish under your belt to get by?

Fairly low. The vast majority of the adult population will not speak any English. Upper class there is a much higher probability due to being involved in business or studying abroad. Younger people will probably speak a little or be proficient, but not insanely common. As a general rule, the higher educated, the more likely they will speak some English.

Also depends what neighbourhoods you hang out in. If you go outside of Polanco, Colonia Roma, Condesa, Centro, or high end suburbs like Santa Fe, virtually no one will speak English.

Yes you can get by. I know people who have stayed or lived here for short term that didn't speak/learn any and functioned.

Post: #94

Seems to me yall:

-Want a place where you are treated as gods.
-Dont want to trouble yourselves learning a few words in some other language.
-Dont want to get to know any new place in a new city.
-Want to stick to the shitty neighbourhoods and still be surrounded by "european-looking 10s"
-Complain women in Mexico are brown skinned, short, or speak spanish. Really dudes? Next: women in sweden are tall and blonde. Who would have thought?
-Want to get laid without improving game.

My next data sheet: "Reasons you are striking out in Mexico City." To paraphrase one forum member "Mexico City is the one place where anything can happen if you are willing to make it happen". Some guy asking me why hes not getting laid and women flake on him, while sticking to Tinder and not cold approaching. Are there a lot of hot girls on Tinder in DF? Yeah, sure. Meanwhile, there are hundreds of thousands walking down the streets or hitting the bars. Go talk to them. Get some game while you do that.

Quote: I know people who have stayed or lived here for short term that didn't speak/learn any and functioned.

My ex GF has been living in DF for over a year now and is still to learn even 10 basic phrases. But she limits herself to her social circle and everyone elses shitty english. All those asking if learning spanish is neccesary, should really be asking themselves, how far do I want to get?

Post: #95

(01-27-2015 08:53 PM)germanico Wrote:  My ex GF has been living in DF for over a year now and is still to learn even 10 basic phrases. But she limits herself to her social circle and everyone elses shitty english. All those asking if learning spanish is neccesary, should really be asking themselves, how far do I want to get?

Yeah, I really don't get these people. I mean in a years time you could easily get to an intermediate level.

It's a damn shame.

Post: #96

(01-27-2015 08:53 PM)germanico Wrote:  Seems to me yall:

-Want a place where you are treated as gods.
-Dont want to trouble yourselves learning a few words in some other language.
-Dont want to get to know any new place in a new city.
-Want to stick to the shitty neighbourhoods and still be surrounded by "european-looking 10s"
-Complain women in Mexico are brown skinned, short, or speak spanish. Really dudes? Next: women in sweden are tall and blonde. Who would have thought?
-Want to get laid without improving game.

My next data sheet: "Reasons you are striking out in Mexico City." To paraphrase one forum member "Mexico City is the one place where anything can happen if you are willing to make it happen". Some guy asking me why hes not getting laid and women flake on him, while sticking to Tinder and not cold approaching. Are there a lot of hot girls on Tinder in DF? Yeah, sure. Meanwhile, there are hundreds of thousands walking down the streets or hitting the bars. Go talk to them. Get some game while you do that.

Quote: I know people who have stayed or lived here for short term that didn't speak/learn any and functioned.

My ex GF has been living in DF for over a year now and is still to learn even 10 basic phrases. But she limits herself to her social circle and everyone elses shitty english. All those asking if learning spanish is neccesary, should really be asking themselves, how far do I want to get?

If you have your shit together, but don't speak Spanish, go to Playa. For everywhere else in Mexico, you are selling yourself short by not learning Spanish.

Post: #97

(01-27-2015 08:53 PM)germanico Wrote:  Seems to me yall:

-Want a place where you are treated as gods.
-Dont want to trouble yourselves learning a few words in some other language.
-Dont want to get to know any new place in a new city.
-Want to stick to the shitty neighbourhoods and still be surrounded by "european-looking 10s"
-Complain women in Mexico are brown skinned, short, or speak spanish. Really dudes? Next: women in sweden are tall and blonde. Who would have thought?
-Want to get laid without improving game.

My next data sheet: "Reasons you are striking out in Mexico City." To paraphrase one forum member "Mexico City is the one place where anything can happen if you are willing to make it happen". Some guy asking me why hes not getting laid and women flake on him, while sticking to Tinder and not cold approaching. Are there a lot of hot girls on Tinder in DF? Yeah, sure. Meanwhile, there are hundreds of thousands walking down the streets or hitting the bars. Go talk to them. Get some game while you do that.

Quote: I know people who have stayed or lived here for short term that didn't speak/learn any and functioned.

My ex GF has been living in DF for over a year now and is still to learn even 10 basic phrases. But she limits herself to her social circle and everyone elses shitty english. All those asking if learning spanish is neccesary, should really be asking themselves, how far do I want to get?

If you have your shit together, but don't speak Spanish, go to Playa. For everywhere else in Mexico, you are selling yourself short by not learning Spanish.

Post: #98

(01-27-2015 09:31 PM)Americas Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 08:53 PM)germanico Wrote:  My ex GF has been living in DF for over a year now and is still to learn even 10 basic phrases. But she limits herself to her social circle and everyone elses shitty english. All those asking if learning spanish is neccesary, should really be asking themselves, how far do I want to get?

Yeah, I really don't get these people. I mean in a years time you could easily get to an intermediate level.

It's a damn shame.

Shes not that bright to be honest, at least in languages. Tried to teach her some words that shared a common root with english, and she didnt even knew the english etimology.

But my point is that even the most basic language skills will go a long way.

Post: #99

Oh and BTW, I am thinking about dropping a multi-level datasheet on Mexico on this forum. It would kind of a be a series of datasheets (not all at once but every once in a while I would drop down a big post) in the same thread outlining Mexican food, gaming Mexican girls, off-the-beaten track places in Mexico, ect. Anyone interested in me doing this kind of thing?

Post: #100

^ Yeah. Everyone.