Post: #1

Looking back on my uni days, I've noticed that having a set schedule really helped other parts of my day. For example, if I had an early class, I'd have some momentum going into the day and was able to finish assignments by early afternoon.

Also smashing assignments, quizzes, and tests one by one really helped inflate my esteem and ambition. It gives you more confidence, whether it's shooting hoops, talking to professors, or socializing.

I know college has been getting a lot of flak as of late and I was thinking, the information we may or may not learn isn't the only possible benefit to attending one.

What do you guys think?

Post: #2

Hmm, a lot of people recommend waking up really early. Talking like, 4-5 am. If school forces you to develop good habits, you can also force yourself to maintain those habits outside of school. It's just harder because it's all on you.

Maybe try making up a loose schedule to follow. When I followed my a schedule I made up, it helped me be really productive.

Post: #3

You can do all of those things without paying thousands of dollars. If you look at each of the individual habits they are just as important.

- Waking up early
- Scheduling
- Socializing/talking to girls
- SELF education (don't let them spoon feed you knowledge)

Do you still need a school to baby you into doing this stuff?

Post: #4

Learning to master your time and plan your day is indeed a powerful skill, but sadly school with it's dull lessons killed this trait in me. i have wasted a few years fucking around without a plan just because school gave me hate on things like being on time, preparing for stuff, planning logistics and similar.

I have relearned this most useful skill just a few years ago and my biggest friend was lifting.

First I planned lifting - sets/weights/reps.

Then I added nutrition - intermittent fasting, nutrients

Then I added positive sleep habits.

Then I added effective work planning.

Then I added on planning time for additional study

Then I added on planning time for additional income

and so on and on...

Post: #5

Quote:Looking back on my uni days, I've noticed that having a set schedule really helped other parts of my day. For example, if I had an early class, I'd have some momentum going into the day and was able to finish assignments by early afternoon.


What do you guys think?

School doesn't teach you those habits for your betterment...they put you in a regimented schedule make groom you for a the life of a worker bee and condition you following a routine handed down from someone else.

I suggest you buy and successfully complete Victor Pride's "30 Days of Discipline"...based off your post I think the habits you'd cultivate would help you out a lot. Most importantly it'll mean more to you because you're doing it for yourself instead of someone else.

Post: #6

You could learn the same self discipline and regimen through the following avenues as well:

- sports or marital arts conditioning under a dedicated coach. They will have you up early and working when you don't want to
- Enlist in the military? I don't know if its still this way but most ex or current guys I know have some automatic habits of going to the gym and waking up early.

Post: #7

Schooling actually damages men's ability to self-motivate.

The fixed schedule and course of work that everyone grows up with instils a false idea that that's how life works. You get 'told by higher ups' what to do and when to do it.

Not a strong way to live.

It also encourages people to follow the easy route into more of the same. Lifetime employment as a cubicle monkey for those who at least leave the school system, or on into higher degrees and academia for those who can't bear to leave the warm bed of studenthood.

School is very weakly coupled to actual value. The traditional coupling was always 'school will improve your social standing', i.e. lead to better careers, with more status and money etc, and better women will follow. Perhaps in the past, and still in some places in Asia, is that still the case. Definitely not in the 21st century west.

Australia is a great example of the opposite. Schooling and university makes such a small difference to how much money you will earn and the women that you will get that its just a waste of time. Being in a band will get you girls, being a sportsman will get you girls, even just being a cocky dickhead will get you girls, whilst education and intelligence will only get you contempt. Making sales, landing contracts, having good networks, and having work experience will get you the money, and university will give you a degree that is almost totally unused, and debt. The guy with good grades is a 'nerd', not a winner.

There are no externally imposed 'keystone habits'. There is only internal motivation, which stems from your instincts: to fuck hot girls, to have money, to have freedom, to have a good reputation/power/status etc. Your actions should fan out and extend from those instincts only.

If you are not getting up at a certain time, it is because your body and your mind see no point in doing so. The businessman gets up at 6am because he wants the future money that that action and the ones that follow it will supply. The bodybuilder gets up at 6am to chug oats & eggs and go to the gym because he wants the future status and sex that that action and its results will supply. The young dedicated musician gets up at 6am to practice because he knows that when he's blasting out awesome drum beats in a few years, he'll get into popular bands and have hotties bouncing on his dick.

Success is largely a matter of psychologically linking present actions to future feelings. School just offers the comfort of consistency.

Post: #8

From Nassim Taleb @nntaleb (Antifragile author):

"The reason schools fail to replicate real life is that they try to teach kids how to succeed, instead of helping them work with failure."

"Aside from vocational schools education's aim seems to keep kids off the street, teach obedience to state and kill the risk taking instinct."

^ I agree with these observations and am thankful for this forum and other sites. Maybe in the old days education was different, I'm not sure, but what passes for education nowadays trains kids to be good little cogs.

Post: #9

Just for clarification...is everyone here self-employed or unemployed? It seems like this advice assumes that a person has complete control of his time ala Roosh. If I had whole days to plan out, I'd make sure I'd wake up at the crack of dawn, train fasted, and get right into work for that day. But as of now, I have to pace myself, knowing I need to ration energy towards my current job and usually squeeze in a workout during my lunch hour or after work. The limiting factor is really energy not time.

Post: #10

I thought this thread was going to be about keystone beer.