Quote:"You can't just deal with it by issuing a correction like the time you spelled [pop star] Ke$ha's name with an '&' instead of '$,' " Stewart said. "Someone's got to go."
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(04-10-2015 03:23 AM)iamdegaussed Wrote: I don't think Fouhounhedo even had sex with the girl in that story, Zelscorpion. I think he literally just drove her home and she made the accusation.
(04-10-2015 03:23 AM)iamdegaussed Wrote: I don't think Fouhounhedo even had sex with the girl in that story, Zelscorpion. I think he literally just drove her home and she made the accusation.

Quote:A University of Virginia fraternity will not pursue an honor code violation against a student who told Rolling Stone for a story that has since been retracted that several brothers gang-raped her during a party, a spokesman said.
Virginia has the oldest student-run honor code in the country, which prohibits lying , cheating and stealing. Those who are found guilty of violations by a panel of students are faced with a single penalty: expulsion
(04-10-2015 01:01 AM)Paracelsus Wrote: Now even Jon Stewart is throwing Rolling Stone under the bus.
Quote:"You can't just deal with it by issuing a correction like the time you spelled [pop star] Ke$ha's name with an '&' instead of '$,' " Stewart said. "Someone's got to go."
I believe this is what they call the SJW red zone. If even your own tame comedians are throwing razzies at you, it's time to start issuing pink slips.
Quote:This isn’t a gaffe or a brain fart or an oopsy-daisy … Campus rape happens with shocking frequency … Victims need help and support yet somehow in a sea of verifiable assaults you’ve managed to ‘Where’s Waldo’ the only rape story that not only would fail to get your point across but set the cause back. Someone’s got to go.
(04-10-2015 01:57 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote: Pussy Pass for Jackie
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/09...37282.html
UVA Fraternity Won't Pursue Honor Code Charges Against 'Jackie'
Quote:A University of Virginia fraternity will not pursue an honor code violation against a student who told Rolling Stone for a story that has since been retracted that several brothers gang-raped her during a party, a spokesman said.
Virginia has the oldest student-run honor code in the country, which prohibits lying , cheating and stealing. Those who are found guilty of violations by a panel of students are faced with a single penalty: expulsion
Women are held to a lower standard I'm shocked. I'm sure Teresa and Emily Renda will keep their jobs too.

(04-10-2015 01:57 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote: UVA Fraternity Won't Pursue Honor Code Charges Against 'Jackie'
(04-10-2015 05:42 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:(04-10-2015 01:57 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote: UVA Fraternity Won't Pursue Honor Code Charges Against 'Jackie'
I'm not surprised. There would be hell to pay from the people who run that university, starting from Teresa Sullivan and on down, if they pursued such charges which would be considered to have a "chilling effect" on the willingness of future "survivors" to come forward.
The guys who run these frats realize very clearly who's in charge, and act accordingly. Not to mention that many of them are white-knights and probably believe the "1 in 5" propaganda and all the rest.
Again, the "lapses" of Rolling Stone are a convenient scapegoat for everyone, as if the quality of their so-called "reporting" were the only or the main problem.
Quote:Monday, April 6, 2015
The Rolling Stone rush to judgment wasn't "isolated and unusual," it was business as usual in our culture
The Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism issued a scathing report Sunday on the editorial breakdown at Rolling Stone magazine that allowed publication of a story about a purported gang rape of a woman named "Jackie" at the University of Virginia that never really happened. The magazine said it considers the whole affair "an isolated and unusual episode."
And once again, we've learned nothing from yet another in a long line of high profile rape accusations that imploded under the weight of its own prevarications. The fact that "Jackie's" outlandish rape tale was so readily believed by the article's author, by Rolling Stone's editors, and by vast segments of the American public wasn't "an isolated and unusual" phenomenon. It was business as usual in our culture. If you can stomach an example, read the chilling transcript of Bonny Ghosh's television news report about the Hofstra "rape" case shortly before it imploded. (It's little wonder that after Danmell Ndonye swore under oath that she lied about the rape, the falsely accused young men were booed on a national television program.)
The real lesson of the UVA "gang rape" that never really happened isn't about Sabrina Erdely, Rolling Stone or its lax editors. It isn't about reporters who take liberties with the facts, and it's not about "editorial breakdowns." And it isn't about "expert fabulist storytellers" who tell rape lies but who seem like credible people. Those are pieces in a much larger puzzle.
The real lesson of the "gang rape" at UVA that never really happened is about a culture happy to reduce an entire gender to vile caricature any time an allegation of a sex offense is made. The usual suspects who write for news outlets and popular websites do it routinely. It's about a culture that happily rushes to judgment and assumes that men and boys accused of sex offenses are guilty by reason of penis without considering even the possibility that it may not have happened the way the accuser said. It's about a culture where keeping an open mind about a rape allegation is branded "victim blaming" and "rape culture."
Read this and you'll understand where the Rolling Stone article came from--you can see example after example of the twisted mentality that led that article to be written and believed every day of the week in newspapers, magazines, and on popular websites.
The sneering mob at the hanging trees of the Old South never really left us. They became the sneering mob quick to believe Ruby Bates and Victoria Price, Tawana Brawley, Crystal Gail Mangum, Wanetta Gibson, Danmell Ndonye, and too many others to chronicle. Sometimes, as at Duke University, the sneering mob gussies itself up with PhDs and tenure and assumes guilt because the accused penises are attached to white, "privileged" lacrosse players. The sneering mob invariably rationalizes its rush to judgment by citing wildly inflated statistics and pointing to other, unrelated cases and insisting that since it happened there, it must have happened here, too.
It's too easy to cluck our tongues and tsk-tsk Sabrina Erdely and Rolling Stone and pretend what they did was "isolated and unusual." The real lesson of the Rolling Stone debacle is that it's neither. It's business as usual.
(04-15-2015 10:04 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote: western progressives and Year Zero ideologues are pretty strongly committed (for reasons related to the nature of their particular ideologies) to non-violence and to achieving their ends through legal political means.
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(04-15-2015 10:57 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote: Give them 5 years of that, then 4 years of University, and they're going to come out the other end as unempathic, violent fascists.
If the Boomers and Gen X Progressives don't get these narcissistic brats under control - and there is an increasing sense of horror from the moderate left over what they have raised but the usual ineffective prissiness over trying to establish boundaries over anyone - then I predict rhetorical violent fantasy will become deliberately-enacted violence against Unpersons from about 2020 onwards. These children will simply have never known normality, and won't believe what they're doing to an Unperson is a criminal act. It's not like they're human.
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(04-10-2015 04:37 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:(04-10-2015 03:23 AM)iamdegaussed Wrote: I don't think Fouhounhedo even had sex with the girl in that story, Zelscorpion. I think he literally just drove her home and she made the accusation.
No, from the story it seems that he and the woman spent the night together, then on the drive home she started talking about her "boyfriend" and he got rightfully worried.
Women sometimes cry rape to cover up one-night-stands and affairs. For instance, wasn't there an instance of a teenage girl who claimed a boy in her bed was a "rapist" when her dad walked in -- and the dad then shot him? I remember a story like this. Of course, she wasn't charged with a crime.
We need to start keeping a log of these stories "The False Rape Chronicles." If people saw a roll call of this bullshit, the tide would turn as to how they look upon these situations.
(04-16-2015 07:25 AM)samsamsam Wrote: Guys need to start practicing casually turning on the record button on your phones.
Quote:Last year California passed a law that defined nearly all sex on college campuses as rape unless proven otherwise. Now, in addition to making it easier to label someone a rapist for just about every sexual encounter, state legislators want to go further to ensure that accused students' lives are severely disrupted — if not ruined — by introducing mandatory minimums for their punishment.
The mandatory minimum would be a suspension of two years for students found responsible for sexual assault. But bear in mind that the burden of proof already lies with the accused, thanks to California's "yes means yes" law. Accusers do not have to provide any proof that that they failed to give consent or were unable to consent due to incapacitation, and now a guilty finding would carry a minimum punishment under this new proposal.
First they made it easier to brand a student a rapist, and now they want to make it easier to ruin that student's life.
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(04-15-2015 11:10 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote: They are privileged brats who have never encountered a whiff of real violence in their lives.
The classic quote from George Orwell comes to mind:
"So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot."
I think that applies to these people to a large extent.