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RE: Blizzard's New Game Includes Strong Female Characters - Will Feminists be Satisfied?
(02-27-2017 01:17 AM)Mochihunter Wrote: So who thinks Mass Effect Andromeda will end up like a overwatch? It's no secret Bioware has gotten more PC
I loved the original trilogy, despite all it's flaws. Hell, I even played the female protagonist (might not have made that choice these days) because I preferred the voice actress.
I have until the last few weeks been very worried that Mass Effect Andromeda will go full SJW. It still might - haven't seen enough story and conversation footage - but at the very least all the new gameplay videos make me more optimistic that it might turn out to be a good game.
Not sure why they've made the female main character (I'm sure I'll choose the male one this time) look like a cartoon though.
Tomorrow I'll start playing Horizon Zero Dawn - gameplay and game world look awesome, but certainly the (fairly unattractive but at least not fat) female lead, the tribal matriarchies I've been reading about and probably various parts of the story are likely to make the whole experience less than I would have liked.
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RE: Blizzard's New Game Includes Strong Female Characters - Will Feminists be Satisfied?
(02-27-2017 08:05 AM)MikeS Wrote: (02-27-2017 01:17 AM)Mochihunter Wrote: So who thinks Mass Effect Andromeda will end up like a overwatch? It's no secret Bioware has gotten more PC
I loved the original trilogy, despite all it's flaws. Hell, I even played the female protagonist (might not have made that choice these days) because I preferred the voice actress.
I have until the last few weeks been very worried that Mass Effect Andromeda will go full SJW. It still might - haven't seen enough story and conversation footage - but at the very least all the new gameplay videos make me more optimistic that it might turn out to be a good game.
Not sure why they've made the female main character (I'm sure I'll choose the male one this time) look like a cartoon though.
Tomorrow I'll start playing Horizon Zero Dawn - gameplay and game world look awesome, but certainly the (fairly unattractive but at least not fat) female lead, the tribal matriarchies I've been reading about and probably various parts of the story are likely to make the whole experience less than I would have liked.
Good luck with that:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2...aiting-for
They couldn't make her into a 6 or make her sexy or the feminist hambeasts would have a hissy fit.
Also in the Game she supposedly breaks men's necks with bare hands. Yeah.....
Quote:Horizon Zero Dawn – the feminist action game we've been waiting for
Quote:And it’s clear what the team is envisaging is actually a very modern heroine; a Lara Croft designed for the 21st century, meant to inspire gamers not only with her strength, complexity and ferocity, but with her femininity. However, for what feels like the first time in years, we’ve got a female lead who isn’t sexualised at all.
Yup - I think that the cucked Omega Males should love it, never see pussy, never see boobs, now don't even see them in their female characters and be told how great all women are.
Quote:We wanted a fierce hunter in there and she kind of just appeared. We then spent six years crafting her and making her what she is today.”
“It’s really important that we didn’t look for a woman and that turned out to be Aloy. We had Aloy and one of her very many attributes is that she is a woman. She’s also an outcast and a very fierce person. She’s brave and independent, but why I like her so much is that she’s also kind-hearted and she has every right to be really upset with the tribe, yet she still has it in her nature to be kind to them, to help them out.”
Ah - no - if humanity ever regresses to that stage, then women can no longer be tasked with being tough and independent. They will also suck at hunting compared to other men. They will stay at home and pop out babies at the age of 15-16 and there is nothing their independent ass will have to say about it. Otherwise that tribe would be as good as dead.
Quote:Lara Croft emerged as a highly sexualised entity into the era of lads’ mags and Page Three pin-ups, her feminism buried beneath swathes of marketing focused on her other assets. Aloy arrives into a culture where Everyday Sexism and online bigotry are being called out and tackled, where gender and mental health issues are being framed and discussed.
Oh fuck - I cannot wait to hear that every part of the way as I buy a Game and get SJW sermons for my trouble.
Quote:Horizon Zero Dawn manages to hint at all this. In the opening 15 minutes, there’s an LGBT reference that caught us pleasantly off-guard, while an early side quest has Aloy dealing with a man who has mental health problems and you’ll have to decide what happens to him and the way you handle the situation.
So you get transgender storylines and their corresponding mental illnesses in the first 15 minutes? Great!
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RE: Blizzard's New Game Includes Strong Female Characters - Will Feminists be Satisfied?
(02-27-2017 09:00 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote: (02-27-2017 08:05 AM)MikeS Wrote: (02-27-2017 01:17 AM)Mochihunter Wrote: So who thinks Mass Effect Andromeda will end up like a overwatch? It's no secret Bioware has gotten more PC
I loved the original trilogy, despite all it's flaws. Hell, I even played the female protagonist (might not have made that choice these days) because I preferred the voice actress.
I have until the last few weeks been very worried that Mass Effect Andromeda will go full SJW. It still might - haven't seen enough story and conversation footage - but at the very least all the new gameplay videos make me more optimistic that it might turn out to be a good game.
Not sure why they've made the female main character (I'm sure I'll choose the male one this time) look like a cartoon though.
Tomorrow I'll start playing Horizon Zero Dawn - gameplay and game world look awesome, but certainly the (fairly unattractive but at least not fat) female lead, the tribal matriarchies I've been reading about and probably various parts of the story are likely to make the whole experience less than I would have liked.
Good luck with that:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2...aiting-for
![[Image: 955.png?w=620&q=55&auto=...10e6aa1adc]](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/c08abe837fb1b2ed9a41225fb4f0356c3c1dad27/0_0_955_573/master/955.png?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=75be1a14133b17d57d475310e6aa1adc)
They couldn't make her into a 6 or make her sexy or the feminist hambeasts would have a hissy fit.
Also in the Game she supposedly breaks men's necks with bare hands. Yeah.....
Quote:Horizon Zero Dawn – the feminist action game we've been waiting for
Quote:And it’s clear what the team is envisaging is actually a very modern heroine; a Lara Croft designed for the 21st century, meant to inspire gamers not only with her strength, complexity and ferocity, but with her femininity. However, for what feels like the first time in years, we’ve got a female lead who isn’t sexualised at all.
Yup - I think that the cucked Omega Males should love it, never see pussy, never see boobs, now don't even see them in their female characters and be told how great all women are.
Quote:We wanted a fierce hunter in there and she kind of just appeared. We then spent six years crafting her and making her what she is today.”
“It’s really important that we didn’t look for a woman and that turned out to be Aloy. We had Aloy and one of her very many attributes is that she is a woman. She’s also an outcast and a very fierce person. She’s brave and independent, but why I like her so much is that she’s also kind-hearted and she has every right to be really upset with the tribe, yet she still has it in her nature to be kind to them, to help them out.”
Ah - no - if humanity ever regresses to that stage, then women can no longer be tasked with being tough and independent. They will also suck at hunting compared to other men. They will stay at home and pop out babies at the age of 15-16 and there is nothing their independent ass will have to say about it. Otherwise that tribe would be as good as dead.
![[Image: 1799.png?w=620&q=55&auto...afc7b0c128]](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/1a37549c4b05d6afe85f259d359443fc321db0c6/110_0_1799_1080/master/1799.png?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=3e559231caa9e0dc0626eeafc7b0c128)
Quote:Lara Croft emerged as a highly sexualised entity into the era of lads’ mags and Page Three pin-ups, her feminism buried beneath swathes of marketing focused on her other assets. Aloy arrives into a culture where Everyday Sexism and online bigotry are being called out and tackled, where gender and mental health issues are being framed and discussed.
Oh fuck - I cannot wait to hear that every part of the way as I buy a Game and get SJW sermons for my trouble.
Quote:Horizon Zero Dawn manages to hint at all this. In the opening 15 minutes, there’s an LGBT reference that caught us pleasantly off-guard, while an early side quest has Aloy dealing with a man who has mental health problems and you’ll have to decide what happens to him and the way you handle the situation.
![[Image: l4bN_f-maxage-0_s-200x150.gif]](https://m.popkey.co/e528fb/l4bN_f-maxage-0_s-200x150.gif)
So you get transgender storylines and their corresponding mental illnesses in the first 15 minutes? Great!
I'll reserve judgment - doesn't really sound like something that wasn't already in eg. Bioware games ten years ago, and while my opinions on a lot of things have changed since then I still think I would enjoy many of those.
I don't really care about the utterly unrealistic super woman trope - that's been par for the course in movies, TV and games for many years, and quite often male leads pull off equally outlandish feats and any kind of battle is usually highly unrealistic (I might prefer Nathan Drake to Lara Croft but he's no less over the top superpowered).
I know a lot of people on this forum stay away from Hollywood productions these days - I still get enjoyment from a lot of blockbusters from Marvel etc.
A reviewer will review through their own reality filter so the typical SJW writer might choose to see a pattern or theme where there may in fact only be a few "inclusive" scenes in the game.
Or it may indeed but horrible and gaming is going to shit faster than I thought. I'll find out with Horizon Zero Dawn very soon.
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