Post: #26

That's disgusting, and actually a case for street harrassment. These morons bring a bad rap to every single man who approaches.

Post: #27

Julien has a massive hard on for drama and pissing people off.

He's been trying to get a massive shitstorm like this going for months now, hence why he puts out obnoxious videos like this(which he obviously cut to make it good controversy material).

I don't agree with what he's doing, and I do think something like this is damaging to foreigners and especially white dudes. There was that other RSD guy(David Bond) who pissed of tons of people as well with his "stealing a girl from her boyfriend" video. Obviously he didn't understand cultural context, a lot of RSD students tend to lack cultural sensitivity. IMO Rooshvforum seems to be much better with helping guys understand cultural differences, instead of blindly rampaging through various cultures.

However, this was orchestrated. He exaggerated this as much as possible to create a media shitstorm. His game is airtight, he simply chooses to showcase those short clips for controversy's sake. In many ways he reminds me of a little kid in a candy store and in real life he's extremely charismatic and has a great vibe. He just has an obsession with creating drama, which is what a lot of his game is.

Post: #28

Yeah, this faggot needs to cut that shit out.
There's a case to be made for irrational self-confidence, and there's a case to be made for acting like you're more interesting than the people around you. One of the big realizations I had was that you can push things a little farther than you think you can. You can talk to girls in a bar who your first instinct is to leave alone. You can switch to a shimo-neta even when you're not sure it's appropriate. If it bombs it's not the end of the world.

"I’m romping through the streets (of Tokyo) just grabbing girls and it’s like (motions) head on dick (pfft) head on dick, yelling ‘PIKACHU’ with a Pikachu shirt on….Every foreigner who is white does this. When you see that one foreigner in the crowd in Tokyo and your eyes will lock and you know that he knows and he knows that and it’s this guilty look like you both fucked a hooker or something.”

^- But this shit? Wearing a pikachu shirt (Protip: Nobody is into Pikachu anymore. It's Youkai Watch all the way now.) and physically grabbing girls on the street? What the fuck? Who does that? Why would you do that? It's not going to get you anywhere. I have never heard of a foreigner physically grabbing girls he doesn't even know. I have never heard of any foreigners over the age of 10 wearing pikachu shirts either, for that matter. It's not funny, or ironic. It's just kind of dumb.

"Something I Just noticed "Asian" is not something Japanese people call themselves, so the video "fucking Asian women" is like saying "I fuck the Chinese massaji ("massage....prostitute) girls that harass me on the streets of Roppongi."

CJ_W is absolutely right here. The Japanese would find the idea that this JennLi girl in the first tweet is standing together with them to defend "Asia" absolutely bewildering. She looks Korean, and they're not exactly popular at the moment. I was on Amazon.co.jp earlier today looking for something to read, and it had a promotion up on the front page for something that translated like, "The age of REALLY fucking hating Korea” whose subtitle promises "The age in which we can all say loud and clear "I hate Korea!" is upon us." You can buy it in a combo pack with "The world is starting to abandon China and Korea: Why everybody is starting to hate those fuckers in China and Korea."

It's currently the 21st bestselling book on Japanese amazon, and the #1 seller in two categories.

Post: #29

What Saladin said. Julien is a psycho and I don't agree with what he was doing in Japan, but his stuff sells over here for good reason.

Post: #30

Some girl just posted this link on my facenovel
ITs BuzzFeed

Apparently he is now in Australia and held one of his conferences.. now the Australian people are trying to band together and make sure he can't have anymore conferences.

I dont blame them its ridiculous to think this guy is making money to teach people this idiocracy

Facebook comment from a man:
Here's a few tips for any aspiring pick up artist out there:

1. STOP EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING: if you are considering becoming a 'pick-up artist' you need to seriously re-evaluate the direction in which your life is headed.
2. STOP THINKING ABOUT WOMEN AS A MEANS TO AN END: This is not how one goes about treating the better sex. Try considering women as actual living, breathing, thinking human beings on par with yourself, or any other person walking the planet, no matter what or who they are.
3. TREAT THEM ACCORDINGLY: Now that we have established that women are indeed people who think and feel the same as you do, try and treat them with the same amount of empathy you seem to show to those whose genitals dangle.

I'm not saying these tips are going to change your luck with women, and I am certainly not going to guarantee you will get laid. Why? because that's a ridiculous goal and a ridiculous assumption. Make sex a goal at the bottom of the list and try connecting to another person, you may actually meet your best friend.

Facebook comment from a woman:
when i saw the title of this i initially thought people were being dramatic...but holy hell this guy is basically serial rapist creepy

Post: #31

SJW's through their #takedownjulienblanc and a change.org petition got a hotel to cancel a Julien Free Tour scheduled for Thursday. Now they've been emboldened, and are contacting every hotel RSD has booked for their free tours around the world trying to get them banned.

I don't agree with what Julien did in the Tokyo video but we can't let that happen, if RSD gets banned from hosting free tours and hot seat's it's the first step towards banning game in general. Next thing you know Roosh's books will be banned from Amazon. I've been hitting back on my Twitter but I'm practically the only one. Would be nice to have some firepower like we have for #GamerGate.

Post: #32

(11-04-2014 01:42 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  Some girl just posted this link on my facenovel
ITs BuzzFeed

Apparently he is now in Australia and held one of his conferences.. now the Australian people are trying to band together and make sure he can't have anymore conferences.

I dont blame them its ridiculous to think this guy is making money to teach people this idiocracy

Facebook comment from a man:
Here's a few tips for any aspiring pick up artist out there:

1. STOP EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING: if you are considering becoming a 'pick-up artist' you need to seriously re-evaluate the direction in which your life is headed.
2. STOP THINKING ABOUT WOMEN AS A MEANS TO AN END: This is not how one goes about treating the better sex. Try considering women as actual living, breathing, thinking human beings on par with yourself, or any other person walking the planet, no matter what or who they are.
3. TREAT THEM ACCORDINGLY: Now that we have established that women are indeed people who think and feel the same as you do, try and treat them with the same amount of empathy you seem to show to those whose genitals dangle.

I'm not saying these tips are going to change your luck with women, and I am certainly not going to guarantee you will get laid. Why? because that's a ridiculous goal and a ridiculous assumption. Make sex a goal at the bottom of the list and try connecting to another person, you may actually meet your best friend.

Facebook comment from a woman:
when i saw the title of this i initially thought people were being dramatic...but holy hell this guy is basically serial rapist creepy

I don't like what that RSD guy is doing as much as the next guy but guys who consider women the 'better sex' always baffle me.

Post: #33

I didn't realize it had blown up so much. Julien really has pushed them too far with some of the ridiculous shit he was doing. Wonder why he wasn't just content to coast along basically at the top of the RSD food chain?

Post: #34

My position on this is "I strongly disagree with Julien of RSD's teachings, although that doesn't mean that any of the harrassment that he is receiving is justified. There is no such thing as a valid excuse for a public lynching like the one going on."

Post: #35

(11-04-2014 01:48 AM)Deluge Wrote:  I don't agree with what Julien did in the Tokyo video but we can't let that happen, if RSD gets banned from hosting free tours and hot seat's it's the first step towards banning game in general. Next thing you know Roosh's books will be banned from Amazon.

It's was only a question of time until one of those PUA clowns went completely berserk, ruining it for everyone. It is the Tragedy of the Commons.

If you (and I mean everyone here!) want to save Game, you must publicly distance yourself as far as possible from psychopaths such as that RSD idiot in the video.

If you fail to do that, Game in its current iteration is finished.

Post: #36

It's not even about Julien at this point. They're going after every hotel RSD has booked, it's a witch hunt. If more hotels start banning them the largest game company in the world's bottom line just took a huge hit. Julien personally is fine if RSD is since it's not like they can fire him, but RSD needs hotels to use as venues for their hotseats (big revenue generator) and free tours (big marketing avenue). If you really think letting SJW's get game seminars banned from worldwide hotel chains is not going to hurt us I have a bridge to sell you.

What comes next after RSD? I saw some girl tweeting take down #takedownrooshv in the same tweet as a Julien one. Way I see it is like Nazi Germany, today they takeover Czechoslovakia, tomorrow they invade Poland. Stop the SJW buck here before it spreads any further.

Edit: As for Julien, the guy is a sociopath in the clinical sense of the word, and everybody knows it. He's a loose cannon, but he's probably RSD's biggest revenue generator after Tyler and supposedly their most successful player (at least in Western countries). RSD would never cut him loose, he could drag down the entire ship with him.

Post: #37

No matter what I may think about this dipshit, I don't think anybody deserves to be on the end of a planet-wide 2-minute hate.

Post: #38

Ok Deluge, but why do we care about RSD? From what I've seen of them so far, they teach men bad game while extorting huge amounts of money from them. I can understand the concern about this landsliding into the hate and banning of anything labeled PUA (like our own little gathering, or low-commercial sites like 3bromigos or Danger & Play), but assuming that's not going to happen... why should we care for this individual company?

What is the motivation for any single one of us taking a stance stronger than "we don't support either lynch mobs or this guy's weird game advice"? Isn't RSD the one that should take action, maybe by firing a clown who is giving them bad image even among reasonable people like us?

Post: #39

(11-04-2014 01:48 AM)Deluge Wrote:  SJW's through their #takedownjulienblanc and a change.org petition got a hotel to cancel a Julien Free Tour scheduled for Thursday. Now they've been emboldened, and are contacting every hotel RSD has booked for their free tours around the world trying to get them banned.

I don't agree with what Julien did in the Tokyo video but we can't let that happen, if RSD gets banned from hosting free tours and hot seat's it's the first step towards banning game in general. Next thing you know Roosh's books will be banned from Amazon. I've been hitting back on my Twitter but I'm practically the only one. Would be nice to have some firepower like we have for #GamerGate.

If I was Julien and no one was calling event venues and trying to get me banned, I'd hire someone to do it.

There's no street cred like having a product so potent that it's been "banned."

While this sort of bad publicity might turn women away, it'll probably only endear you to Julien's target audience.

Post: #40

@HCE their game advice is virtually the same as RVF's just a high energy club variant (sociopathic Julien shit excluded) although I think charging $3k for bootcamps is insane and bootcamps in general should no longer be a thing. The thing with RSD is they're huge, they have many many times more followers than the "manosphere", if that ship sinks the entire game community suffers, not the least because they are a pipeline to Roosh and similar sites.

Look what's happened here. A single hotel caved into SJW demands and now they're targetting dozens and dozens of chains all around the world. If they succeed they're going to be even more emboldened. Banning them from hotels for "promoting rape" is too close to banning Bang from Amazon or banning RVF from server hosts for also "promoting rape". Same way banning the no game catcall shit would lead to a ban on daygame.

Post: #41

(11-04-2014 02:46 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(11-04-2014 01:48 AM)Deluge Wrote:  SJW's through their #takedownjulienblanc and a change.org petition got a hotel to cancel a Julien Free Tour scheduled for Thursday. Now they've been emboldened, and are contacting every hotel RSD has booked for their free tours around the world trying to get them banned.

I don't agree with what Julien did in the Tokyo video but we can't let that happen, if RSD gets banned from hosting free tours and hot seat's it's the first step towards banning game in general. Next thing you know Roosh's books will be banned from Amazon. I've been hitting back on my Twitter but I'm practically the only one. Would be nice to have some firepower like we have for #GamerGate.

If I was Julien and no one was calling event venues and trying to get me banned, I'd hire someone to do it.

There's no street cred like having a product so potent that it's been "banned."

While this sort of bad publicity might turn women away, it'll probably only endear you to Julien's target audience.

I was thinking the same thing: it is possible that julien is doing all of this over the top nonsense as an advertising stunt to say "so controversial, 'banned in Japan!'" or something to that effect.

And what is "head on dick?", he means that he grabs the japanese women by the head and shoves them toward his dick? while that is pretty funny, that is really bad game.

Post: #42

Aren't these the guys that some love to quote and post their videos/blog-posts?

Post: #43

He was banned from a hotel in Australia, not Japan. This is a Western SJW movement. The Asian girl behind it is American.

Here's a thought experiment, what would you do if the SJW's campaigned to get heartiste banned from the Internet? Many of us no longer read him or agree with most of what he posts these days, but we would all recognize the danger him going down poses to us at RVF.

Post: #44

(11-04-2014 02:40 AM)Faust Wrote:  No matter what I may think about this dipshit, I don't think anybody deserves to be on the end of a planet-wide 2-minute hate.

Maybe not, but a lot of the "PUA" community is chock full of people like this who are just so socially inept that they resort to this kind of shit instead of opening their eyes and looking around and learning out to interact with people.

Its not like this a witch hunt of people who aren't witches. And people like Roosh aren't putting out silly videos of him doing bad game, and getting news outlets to give him bad publicity.

Bad game gets punished HARD, period. Good game gets praised and held in awe/gets a pass.

Also good game doesn't get displayed all over youtube all the time, good game is so subtle and patient that most normal people wouldn't even notice it. This goes doubly in a different country/culture, you learn by keeping your eyes open, being patient and by learning social norms.

If anything, its the dudes who pay $300 that are being hurt the most, The Japanese will just be non confrontational till the guy leaves, then talk amongst themselves(or others) on how creepy or weird that guy was, or if he doesn't leave they WILL call for help and people WILL come and fuck said idiot up. It doesn't happen often as most guys won't do stupid shit like this there even if told to. But yeah in certain locations doing this is just not going to end well for the dude.

Hell, some guys come and "help" even when it's not needed, but if your game is tight, and a dude rolls up and asks the chick "if she's ok" she'll shoo the dude off (in a subtle Japanese way of course) and its no big deal, but if someones doing shit like this and some guys comes to help them, the idiots in question better NOT try and escalate the situation and start a fight with Japanese dudes. . .that's all i'm going to say about that.

When in rome . . .

Yeah Japanese people may be non confrontational to foreigners but as a non Japanese person there is no choice, you have to be that way as well, as no one is going to take your side of the story if things get hairy. A lot of people don't realize this and get themselves into trouble. Trouble is the last thing you want to be in while in Japan.

They wont get banned in Japan, They don't play that SJW shit, first of all The lady that got RSD banned in Aus would have to learn Japanese fluent enough to even try to call up hotels to ban them, then have the social knowledge to understand how to even ask that, and tell the hotel owners why they should care. . .which is not going to happen. Also no if the "RSD ship sinks game is going to take a huge hit" is not going to happen. Good game has been around and accessible a lot longer than RSD, I learned "Good game" before ever hearing of RSD, in fact I find most of RSD a step in the wrong direction for game.

People will find good game regardless of what ever bad game gets trashed. Thing is most people with good game will come here anyway, hell, I came here through an ROK article about Salsa dancing as I was thinking about taking it up.

"Game recognizes game" so yeah there is nothing to worry about if RSD sinks(which isn't going to happen)

"What would I do if heartiste got "banned from the internet"? nothing. It wouldn't be that big of a loss, and another site would just pop up again anyway. (you can never truly "ban" anything from the internet) Also if heartiste isn't focusing on getting the men to improve their lives, not get married, make more money and get good at game (which I don't think he is last time I checked) like RvF does then it doesn't matter anyway. . .a site that does all these things without complaining "omg feminist this, that blah blah" will do much better. The only thing guys need to know is:
(not in any particular order)
A) Don't get married in the west, due to divorce rape
B) Women fuck, a lot, and will most likely fuck behind your back, get over this, and keep spinning plates
C) DON'T GET MARRIED FFS.
D) focus on getting good at game
E) focus on getting your money and career right, location independence, hit the gym, eat healthy, wear decent clothes etc

that's pretty much ALL you need to know to be successful. You don't need to know "what's happening in feminism today." all of that is irrelevant really, yeah it can be amusing but its not really that helpful either.

So no, sites that focus on the above will never get "banned" since most of that is common sense. So really there's nothing to worry about.

Yeah you may bring up the ROK articles but some articles are obviously put there as clickbait(which helps make money for the site/forum/Roosh), and they wont get "taken down" as long as the server hosts make money and nothing illegal is being promoted.

. . .Good Game will never be "illegal"

Post: #45

I don't really see the big deal, he's exaggerating the situation and seeing the footage you can clearly tell he is joking around. SJW's acting all high and mighty and cancelling things is more annoying than an eccentric white guy doing game.

Anyone who thinks PUAs have a good rep to maintain is delusional, SJW's and feminists will attack any manosphere site that teaches men real success with women, because it actually puts power back into the hands of men. Street approach, day game approach and even night game will never go away unless you make speaking to strangers illegal. Orwellian states like that don't really exist, except maybe for Saudi Arabia but you can still wed 4 virgins, decent trade off

Post: #46

"Yeah Japanese people may be non confrontational to foreigners but as a non Japanese person there is no choice, you have to be that way as well, as no one is going to take your side of the story if things get hairy. A lot of people don't realize this and get themselves into trouble. Trouble is the last thing you want to be in while in Japan."

No argument there. From the thumbnail of the video I saw, I would've been more worried about the cops. Did he really just randomly kiss some poor store clerk?
I've always felt the whole "gaijin smash" thing was serious bullshit. If you're not Japanese, you're a guest in their country, and you should damn well better act like it. If you don't, you deserve whatever happens to you.

Post: #47

I hate SJWs as much as anyone in here but I actually do support their effort in stopping this Julian clown and his acolytes from having tours as they are not only teaching absolute horseshit to blue pill naive betas at premium prices but most importantly, he's giving Game a bad name and ruining places for no reason other than his own delusional sense of grandeur. This guy is doing Game a very bad diservice.

This guy is teaching a bunch of naive blue pill betas not only the absolute worst way but also the most dangerous way to approach girls. Sooner or later, him or someone in that group is going to approach the wrong girl or the wrong guy is going to witness it and they're going to get the beat down of their lives. If not worst. Or some poor shlub, after one of their similarly stupid bootcamp teachings devoid of any cultural and local understanding of the dynamics between men and women, these guys will use these non sensical ways to approach the local girls in EE or Latin America, they're going to get a nasty nasty beating. If not worst. I can totally see that happening. It's really not a matter of if, but rather of when.

This guy is so clueless about the local cultures and guys/girls characteristics, it's painful. It's really for his own sake and good and that of his gullible students that this must be stopped before someone gets hurt badly or killed by the hand of the wrong girl's bf/or entourage.

I don't know this Julian guy, nor do I want to, have nothing against him personally. I get it he's doing his best to pitch his products/services. However, there is a very fine line that must not be crossed and that is behaving in ways that disrespects the local cultures in whatever location they may be. In this age, it's easier than ever to travel for the average person, however, we must never forget that wherever we go, we are a guest in their countries and therefore, must follow the local rules and respect the local cultures. It's not the approaching part that is upsetting, as that's an integral and fundamental part of Game world wide, but rather, the very distasteful way it is done, behaving like a total tool with no regards whatsoever for the local cultures and people.

This is not about white knighting but rather showing class. We are all players after all, but the difference with us is that we do it with class, with respect to the local cultures. There's a fine line and an unspoken rule of international playboydom that has to be respected as part of being a decent human being. What this clown is doing is going to affect all of us, very negatively in these venues. And the media backlash that his actions are going to cause, is one we do not need nor can afford to. Specially in the current climate we live in with all the feminist and white knights, betas and fags who are trying their damnest to censure and shut us off.

He can have as many tours or bootcamps as he wants. More power to him. However, he has to teach them real, actionable and proven ways to get the results these guys want, and provide REAL LIFE VALUE. Without putting their lives on the line as they are right now. Perhaps he'd like to get some proper game advice from Roosh, Heartiste or other Game Masters or from some of the international playas in the RVF on the cultural aspects and nuances of gaming in these venues. It would be highly advisable for him to do so before venturing in places he is totally clueless about and making a total tool of himself and endangering the lives of not only himself, but most importantly, their easily impressionable and gullible students who have paid a lot of money for that kind of crappy if not out right, dangerous "advice".

Bad Game and similarly bad advice is what's harming all of us big time. It's the kind of shenanigans that clowns like him are doing that are feeding our detractors with the ammunitions they need to lump us all into one big "creepy" and harmful group. We from the RVF, must differentiate ourselves from these clowns as we have absolutely nothing to gain from associating with them. And ASAP!

An effective and efficient way to differentiate us from these clowns is to have an ROK article about what makes the RVF different from RSD and a video or two from Roosh himself, going over how we in here actually do take the time to understand and learn about the local cultures, what works, what's not to do in a given venue/city/country before venturing there. And that's huge!

Just like we would never take Game advice from chicks or from betas, everything this Julian guy and other clowns like him are trying to sell, we must do the exact opposite. He's advocating you to peacock and wear a Pikachu (WTF is that?) or a Pokemon shirt? Wear a 3 piece suit if in Tokyo. Or elsewhere, wear a nice pair of jeans with a fitted shirt and nice blazer/jacket on top. Be the best dressed man in the place. That'll give you a huge leg up over this clowns.

As mentioned above, we must differentiate ourselves from these clowns ASAP and in no uncertain terms in an unmistakable way. ROK writers, get your sharp pens ready brothers! Other guys with blogs and big audiences, get your podcasts and videos rolling! Roosh, a video outlining what we represent VS them is in order. Not only real, classy, smooth playas of the world are waiting for your voices to be heard gentlemen, but most importantly, the beautiful, feminine and exotic women of the world are awaiting it too.

Post: #48

(11-04-2014 03:00 AM)Deluge Wrote:  He was banned from a hotel in Australia, not Japan. This is a Western SJW movement. The Asian girl behind it is American.

Here's a thought experiment, what would you do if the SJW's campaigned to get heartiste banned from the Internet? Many of us no longer read him or agree with most of what he posts these days, but we would all recognize the danger him going down poses to us at RVF.

But you can't ban something on the internet if its privately funded and not illegal, we'd keep it up somehow. I feel as if some people get startled really easily by things like this, viral videos showing eccentric game. This will blow over in a couple of weeks, the modern attention span is laughable. Who remembers David Bond? Nothing has changed most people in the world won't ever know this place exists

Post: #49

^It was a hypothetical. The real threat is targeting income streams at the point of sale, i.e Amazon. Roosh is anti-fragile, but only as long as he can keep selling his books. Ordinarily these Change.org petitions Twitter activist bullshit doesn't work. Except this time it did. And what happens when they have one victory is suddenly all the SJW's start piling in. If no more hotels cave in the coming days then RSD is fine, but if more domino's fall it becomes a herd effect. We saw the same thing with GamerGate, all it took was 1 advertiser to pull their ads from Gawker Media because of the Twitter campaign to begin a stampede. If the SJW's can get pickup banned from the Hilton chain for example, they're not just going to stop there.

Post: #50

This retard's actions are just making men more blue pill

He's showing the exact same entitlement that western women have which is what is disgusting to the membership here