Wow..this is a really long thread, filled with very confusing and every possible description of Poland. It's all about perspective. Is Poland a poosy paradise? Doubtful. For Roosh it appeared to be, for a short time at least. I’d argue that all the stars aligned for him and he just had a great non-stop run with decent women in his life…for a while. That could happen to anyone, anywhere. Is Poland getting more westernized? Probably.
First I’ll give you a quick background as I’m new here, I’m 40, 6’1, work in IT, average looks, average build, average style, average dancer, not a bad boy or a wild couldn't give a fuck type guy, not hilariously funny either. I’ve read all of Roosh’s books available on Amazon (Day bang is spot on, although I don’t really game or follow pick up, I’m a bit of a self-help book junkie…which reminds me of a funny story from Iceland, when I started up a conversation with a girl in a coffee shop and she brought up Bang Iceland within a couple of sentences….but that’s another story…). This thread on Poland (of which I’ve read about the first and last 10 pages) is why I joined..plus to talk about a couple of my “sticking points” because I’m curious what others might think (but I’ll post that in the correct forum of course).
I’ve spent around 12 weeks on and off in Poland, going out most nights (while working during the weekdays), and the places I’ve been to (mostly Krakow, then Warsaw & Katowice) are pretty similar to the UK, except that there appears to be higher numbers of cute and beautiful women (although a lot of these have boyfriends and appear to be fairly loyal), but overall, the majority of women are less likely to have one night stands (but of course, there will usually be some girls out just looking for fun, and they are usually the same girls you see more than one night in a club). If you’re able to meet/date/have sex with girls in the UK, you will be fine in Poland. I’d say they’re a bit friendlier, but only in that they will carry on conversations past their best out of politeness, and usually you’ll get less harsh rejections if you misjudge your first interaction.
As for competition, having been there in summer and winter – I’d say it’s about the same as everywhere else I’ve been, some local decent guys with the attractive girls, some tourists jumping all over anything in sight, and then the other local “lads” getting very drunk and going for aggressive dance floor attacking. Mostly local guys in clubs are ok outside of the dance floor. Some bouncers at some clubs definitely don't like particular nationalities, mainly because of all the trouble booze cruise tourists cause. Less random violence than the UK. On the dance floor, craziness ensues. Local guys and some tourists will push, shoulder barge you out of the way, and stamp on your feet, to get to any girl on the dance floor the instant they spot one.
We often met the great wall of Poland (A wall of 6ft+ guys smothering and queuing up for a couple of average girls, even if they weren't approaching or had been previously rejected) and at one time, actually saw hand signals between the guys to orchestrate the blocking of our group...amazing behaviour. A lot of places will be sausage fests, and a few girls will be fed up of guys by the tenth idiot they’ve had to deal with that night. You might notice a lot of jacked up guys, and some wide eyed guys off their tits, doing crazy dancing (especially if they manage to get a girl - flinging her round wildly at arm’s length seems to be the style). Expect to get pushed about on the dance floor (in the UK it’s more occasional drunken guys shoving each other than wild dancing). A lot of these guys then hang round that girl even if she leaves to go sit down away from them, they just persist and don't let go even when she’s leaving the club, where she’ll often find an excuse to escape.
Now, you might see a lot of these girls walking home alone later, but those girls have been occupied all night, and it's was always going no-where. Why? They get some fun, attention out of it - while knowing that they won't be going home with the guy, and some are probably a little bit too polite to tell them to fuck off. This causes the problem of, that girl is now occupied all night, and you have little to no chance of getting to know her yourself. So I believe you have to move faster in Poland than the UK, I've often lost the chance to get to know girls by not acting immediately, and even had a girl come up just about to start dancing with me, does a turn, and the guy behind her grabs her and never lets go, even when she goes to sit down away from him. My friend was Eddie Honda’d with a sweep kick because the most attractive girl in the club came up to him and started dancing with him...he ended up on the floor, with a bruise in the shape of a boot and couldn't walk properly for a couple of weeks with a heavily swollen foot.
As for me, I've done ok, and seen many hook-ups, one night stands, and dates by my friends and watched and taken note of my perception of how things work over here. I did about the same as I would in the UK, or anywhere else I've been so far. I’ve worked with polish guys, been out with guys from work, with English friends and also solo. Spent time in shopping malls, coffee shops, bars and clubs. Learnt some basic polish to help getting around. Made a few friends to go out with, have a fair few polish girls on fb. If you can interact with women pretty well most of the time, you’ll do fine in Poland, if you don’t, try to get better on home soil first – no matter how “bad” you think all the women are where you are, it’ll be much easier when you’re somewhere else if you can at least interact with women on some level.
A couple of high points for me – escorted a cute university student to her prom, being the only English guy there, and far older than the rest was fun. Being “picked up” by a 21yr old stripper, by doing absolutely nothing, ignoring her and her demands to get her a drink, hold her bag etc just by standing my ground and hardly saying anything and lastly being at a ladies night and watching a bunch of fake tanned good looking young muscular UK guys fail, as I was being surrounded by a large group of girls after my attention, while I was busy at the bar talking to 3 off duty strippers.
A couple of low points to balance this out - having a girl ask me for a lighter, getting on really well, start kissing, walk hand in hand to another bar, which was closing, walked back up a dark stairwell, making out strongly, loosening clothes, hands going in each other’s clothes, then realising in my drunk state that her other hand is in my pocket looking for cash and even in my extremely drunken state...having to pull her off me and make a quick exit, assuming she probably had backup nearby and could also cry assault at any time if she wanted to any passing people, and another time meeting two drunk girls, who said they didn’t speak very much English, trying to get me to go with them to drink a bottle of alcohol in the park, and having them playfully snatch my phone off me (I was talking to a friend trying to get him to meet us), instantly pocket it and attempt to leave...and then having to restrain these two fairly tiny girls up against a window and demand my phone back in front of a huge group of onlookers including bouncers, police and a street full of drunk people, with them claiming not to understand or know why I’m hassling them. To the outside world, it would have looked pretty bad, but I got my phone back! Sometimes it’s best to stop drinking earlier….
I can give you a breakdown of the great overall long term strategy I’ve seen by a late 20’s British guy that gets laid there most nights. Move to Poland, get a job related to tourism and/or bars/clubbing, get yourself a polish wing girl (always buy her drinks, make her the most important person in your group, be there to raise her emotions when she’s having a bad time, introduce her to decent guys when possible), stick to 2 or 3 bars and 1 or 2 clubs, get to know the bouncers, bar staff and dj's (tip well, buy plenty of drinks, learn staff names, friendly greet them, introduce the staff to girls etc). Try to look different from the tourists & polish guys, go with your own style, whatever that may be. Don't bother learning polish (just a couple of useful sentences, like do you speak English, and some dirty language). Immediately upon seeing a polish girl...get close to her, talk a little, say something dirty, wait for shock face, apologise and re-join friends/wing girl/return to bar. Look for other girls you’re interested in, repeat step 1. Later be chatting to the dj, bar staff etc, do some dancing, re-engage any girl from step 1, if she's not interested yet, cut her loose and re-join friends, repeat step 2 (and loop as necessary) until you find a girl that accepts touching, dancing, kissing and is likely to be up for leaving with you. Get a drink together, sit her down away from her friends. Lead and go as far as possible. If no chance that night, get number or fb, cut loose, back to dance floor till club closes. At all times, when no girls you’re interested are in range, be messaging girls on FB (which you should have many new prospects if you've got plenty of details in the last few weeks) and some girls might come to the club, or just meet you after the club. If they have a group, don't speak much English, have guys, engage your wing girl. If all else fails, most bar staff have after parties, and some of the bar staff bring girls (plus friends, or friends of friends), being friends with the bar staff pays off in so many ways. I have seen this work effectively night after nigh, and of course you'll also get tourists too. I've seen him go up to a cute girl stood with a guy, take his wing girl, engage them both. Watched them all sit down together...then watched him follow the guy to the toilet and just as I follow behind them, curious to see what was going on, heard him saying to the guy "we need to get your friend drunk tonight...you guys need to have fun". Then go back and sit in between the friend and his girl, watched the girl go away, and when she came back the wing girl had taken her seat and was all over Mr pickup, so the target now gets a bit jealous and literally squeezes herself in between them, while wing girl then goes about distracting male orbiter from his “dream” girl...game over man...game over…if you can emulate this, congrats, but for me that’s far too much effort, I don’t really think or plan this much into it.
My Krakow Recommendations
Bars
Alchemia jewish quarter - quirky place, everyone's sat close together inside, outside seating, great burger bar across the road, discrete toilets
Carpe Diem (any of them) - usually some locals, slightly quirky places, usually lots of tables close together, easy to start conversations
Pijalnia Wódki i Piwa (Swietego Jana 5) - students, cheap drinks (4 zloty), polish tapas, busy most nights, good place to get into a chatty mood and have a couple of drinks - we called this the "hot" bar, because in summer you will melt inside there
Clubs
Frantic – lots of dressed up club girls, decent club for dancing, great location - extremely loud and usually full of male tourists though
Coco club - usually some reasonable girls looking for foreigners around – only place my friend got turned away for wearing red trainers
Prozac - lots of girls, age range varies, varied music – some of the drinks are quite expensive for Krakow
By all means visit Poland, meet Polish girls, be friendly and have fun, and most importantly enjoy Poland!
Good luck!