Post: #126

I think you still had a shot until your last line. "Too bad because I liked you" almost sounds to me like "say a few more things and I'll be convinced." You sounded butt hurt. This is a scenario where I would just lie, I mean you're only 1 inch off.

I don't think trolling more helps in these scenarios. It comes across as insecure. Flipping the script when she said you answer first is pretty funny.

Post: #127

(05-21-2015 10:47 AM)Kane12:00 Wrote:  Tinder Convo:
Her profile says she likes guys 5'11" plus, I am 5'10"
(Don't remember beginning of convo)
Her: How tall are you?
Me: How much do you weigh? (used this from earlier poster)
Her: You answer first.
Me: Sure- I would guess you weigh 140.
Her: How tall are you?
Me: I'm 5'10"- built like a combo of a dwarf and a hobbit.
Her: I have a height pref
Her: too bad because I liked you (something like this)
Me: I usually date girls 5'7" and below. Not really into tall ones.

-She blocks me or whatever because combo gone.
What could I have done better? Should I have trolled more before giving my real height? Was my last line too defensive?

You should have lied and said you were 5'11.

Is she going to notice one inch? Highly unlikely.

Post: #128

(05-21-2015 05:43 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(05-21-2015 10:47 AM)Kane12:00 Wrote:  Tinder Convo:
Her profile says she likes guys 5'11" plus, I am 5'10"
(Don't remember beginning of convo)
Her: How tall are you?
Me: How much do you weigh? (used this from earlier poster)
Her: You answer first.
Me: Sure- I would guess you weigh 140.
Her: How tall are you?
Me: I'm 5'10"- built like a combo of a dwarf and a hobbit.
Her: I have a height pref
Her: too bad because I liked you (something like this)
Me: I usually date girls 5'7" and below. Not really into tall ones.

-She blocks me or whatever because combo gone.
What could I have done better? Should I have trolled more before giving my real height? Was my last line too defensive?

You should have lied and said you were 5'11.

Is she going to notice one inch? Highly unlikely.

If you never want to be asked about height again just post a photo of you with very short thin girl. Girls will assume the other girl is a normal height and that you are tall.

By the way the height question is not a shit test. The girl is just embarrassed to be with a guy who is shorter than her and she knows most guys are also embarrassed in the same situation. And honestly, unless you have an amazonian fetish why would you want a giant girl when you can have petite or normal sized girl that you can bounce on your dick?

Post: #129

I dunno man I like me some giraffe pussy from time to time. But petite is obviously preferable.

Post: #130

New One:
After Some banter.
Her: May I ask how tall you are and what you do?
Me: I'm 400 lbs on a good day
Me: 4'11"
Me: But very well endowed
Me: For a squirrel
Her: Waste of my time (and blocked me)

Maybe I am just coming on too strong. Good point that height question may not be a shit test. As long as you are 5'9" or taller they may be happy.

Post: #131

(06-03-2015 02:53 PM)Kane12:00 Wrote:  New One:
After Some banter.
Her: May I ask how tall you are and what you do?
Me: I'm 400 lbs on a good day
Me: 4'11"
Me: But very well endowed
Me: For a squirrel
Her: Waste of my time (and blocked me)

Maybe I am just coming on too strong. Good point that height question may not be a shit test. As long as you are 5'9" or taller they may be happy.

These don't sound like shit tests..it sounds like they have already disqualified you based on your looks. Maybe you need to fix up your profile..maybe you're coming off too wacky.

Post: #132

You messaged multiple times, flip the script and ask her how much she weighs.

I love flipping shit on girls.

Or tell her your height and ask how much she weighs, more hamstering. (like you did)

Or just tell her your height and use the "are you one of those girls" whose insecure about her height ? then add "I dated a girl that was 6'1, but she always worried about her height"

or add i've dated taller, etc

Some girls aren't going to talk to you if you aren't tall enough, it is what it is man !

Post: #133

(06-03-2015 03:29 PM)Feo Wrote:  

(06-03-2015 02:53 PM)Kane12:00 Wrote:  New One:
After Some banter.
Her: May I ask how tall you are and what you do?
Me: I'm 400 lbs on a good day
Me: 4'11"
Me: But very well endowed
Me: For a squirrel
Her: Waste of my time (and blocked me)

Maybe I am just coming on too strong. Good point that height question may not be a shit test. As long as you are 5'9" or taller they may be happy.

These don't sound like shit tests..it sounds like they have already disqualified you based on your looks. Maybe you need to fix up your profile..maybe you're coming off too wacky.

She has not disqualified you based on your looks. If your photos were not good enough she would not ask these questions.

She shut you down because you did not answer her questions. She asked these questions because she wanted the answers. Tell her the answers and then joke around.

All this girl wanted was for you to make her feel like 1) she will not be embarrassed by being taller than you in heels, and 2) that you are not living at home with your parents and have some prospects. You have to make her feel good about it, but instead you came off defensive.

Post: #134

From tinder:

me: you look like trouble
her: me never

How do I respond?

Post: #135

(06-09-2015 01:39 PM)depravity Wrote:  From tinder:

me: you look like trouble
her: me never

How do I respond?

This one is hard.

"Damn. I only like troublesome girls."

Something a lot shorter, but with the same message though.

"o well, i liek bad gurls."

Something like that. Then transition.

Post: #136

(06-09-2015 01:39 PM)depravity Wrote:  From tinder:

me: you look like trouble
her: me never

How do I respond?

Try this: "you lie"

Post: #137

(06-09-2015 01:39 PM)depravity Wrote:  From tinder:

me: you look like trouble
her: me never

How do I respond?

Lies

or

Horns under a halo?

or

boring

or

Too bad, you're cute..

Post: #138

I got this recently and wasn't sure what the best response was. It was from a girl that I've already banged and was meeting for the second time. I met her through a dating website. I was considering putting her in my rotation:

Her: Should I be jealous?
Me: Of what?
Her: Of you meeting other girls from the site?
Me: I guess that's up to you.
Her: [looking a little frustrated] I mean, are you going to be seeing anyone else?
Me: I hadn't thought about it.

I thought I was doing OK until that last response. What should I have said?

Post: #139

(06-09-2015 05:50 PM)Carlos100 Wrote:  I got this recently and wasn't sure what the best response was. It was from a girl that I've already banged and was meeting for the second time. I met her through a dating website. I was considering putting her in my rotation:

Her: Should I be jealous?
Me: Of what?
Her: Of you meeting other girls from the site?
Me: I guess that's up to you.
Her: [looking a little frustrated] I mean, are you going to be seeing anyone else?
Me: I hadn't thought about it.

I thought I was doing OK until that last response. What should I have said?

Textbook Roissy. I can't find anything wrong with it. Leave it alone until she replies.

Post: #140

I don't know if this is any good or not but I had the thought that you could say, "let's consult the magic 8 ball" and then send one of those BS answers which is not an answer.

Post: #141

(06-09-2015 07:15 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  I don't know if this is any good or not but I had the thought that you could say, "let's consult the magic 8 ball" and then send one of those BS answers which is not an answer.

I thought later that I could have used reframing:

Me: Are you always this jealous and insecure?

Post: #142

lol, help me with this tinder one.

Me: you look like trouble [i always use this]
Girl: That's because I am
Me: My kind of girl
Girl: Now the important question is: am i good trouble or bad trouble
Me: only one way to find out
He: And how do we do that

I keep overthinking this shit.

Post: #143

(06-09-2015 09:39 PM)depravity Wrote:  lol, help me with this tinder one.

Me: you look like trouble [i always use this]
Girl: That's because I am
Me: My kind of girl
Girl: Now the important question is: am i good trouble or bad trouble
Me: only one way to find out
He: And how do we do that

I keep overthinking this shit.

I think this situation calls for an emoji text.

U @ me symbol house symbol wine symbol ok finger gesture symbol ??

This will balance out the otherwise extremely mundane and awkward ask for her to come over to your house to have drinks.

Post: #144

"You have many girls"- one I get constantly from thai girls

Post: #145

(06-09-2015 11:35 PM)swuglyfe Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 09:39 PM)depravity Wrote:  lol, help me with this tinder one.

Me: you look like trouble [i always use this]
Girl: That's because I am
Me: My kind of girl
Girl: Now the important question is: am i good trouble or bad trouble
Me: only one way to find out
He: And how do we do that

I keep overthinking this shit.

I think this situation calls for an emoji text.

U @ me symbol house symbol wine symbol ok finger gesture symbol ??

This will balance out the otherwise extremely mundane and awkward ask for her to come over to your house to have drinks.

Would've been a good idea. Cracked last night:

Me: meet up with me tomorrow
Her: now that's asking for trouble

is she fucking with me? lol.

Post: #146

Just answer: trouble always attract trouble, let's just be that troublesome duo of *whatever she has written in her profile*

Or just: ''trouble always attract trouble'' or the other line i wrote

Post: #147

(06-10-2015 09:06 AM)depravity Wrote:  Her: now that's asking for trouble

Translation: "tell me more"

Post: #148

Me: correct. my current plan is to meet around 7 near ...
Her: Sounds good to me.
Me: ill confirm tomorrow. wear something sexy.
Her: Hmmm
Her: U mean outside clothes sexy or inside?

(In hindsight I think I should have ignored this and let her hamster do the work, but I was just messing around)

Me: in. I will confirm tomorrow night the final plan.
Her: K. But I only gonna wear outside clothes sexy though...wink



I think this is an obvious way to try to give herself plausible deniability so I'm just going to ignore this and confirm the final plan, but I still do have to shell out the money for a place to stay since my logistics are terrible. You guys think it's a good investment?

For further context, she sent me a pic of herself in bed about a week ago so I'm pretty damn sure it is, but never hurts to have a second opinion.

Post: #149

Want to see what you vets think about this onslaught of shit tests I encountered earlier.

2nd date with this tinder girl. First date she wouldn't kiss. Would play around and run away from me but each time I just stood there and she would come back. Tried to go for the makeout multiple times (I have a new rule now, 2 attempts and I'm done) and couldn't get the deal done but she still stuck around. Turns out she's only had one partner and hasn't kissed very much so she isn't a good kisser and is embarrassed. Who knows if that's the truth.

Today's date was 2 days after the first. Both were day dates. On the first date, she told me she friendzones a lot of guys and I said something along the lines guys who accept that should be ashamed of themselves because they're just hoping that can friendzone their way into a girl's pants. I told her I wouldn't accept that at all.

Shit test 1: So today I was teasing her early and she was laughing. There was kino etc and then she pulls this: "ya so we're really good friends right?" I laughed and ignored.

Then when we got drinks a bit later, she repeats something along the lines of that and I said: "Ya totally. We can paint each other's nails and just KILL the attraction we have" while having a shit eating grin on my face. She repeats the friendzone thing again a bit later and I realized that internally, I'm getting a bit salty so I just ignored it and said "cool!"


Shit test 2: we decided to get dinner after (she paid for drinks and dinner) and we were playing the questions game again. She asked me how many women I've had tinder dates with. I said 5. She asked me over what time frame I said under 2 weeks. She did not really like that. She then asked me how many of them have I been on more than 1 date with. I said 2 (including her) and she "jokingly" said "ok time to go!"

I did not apologize for it and said: "haha you're salty now. I don't see it being an issue. it only matters if people are exclusive or not honest about it." she kind of agreed.

Shit test 3: She brought up the friendzone thing again and saying we're friends. I then just flat out said I'm not interested in being friends. I said to me, there needs to be a romantic possibility otherwise I'm moving on. Which leads into shittest 4....

Shit test 4: She said something about not being able to see anything down the road. I thought she said that about us but she said no, a guy she friendzoned off a tinder date (I asked her how many 2nd dates she's been on tinder and i'm the only one). Then she asked me if I saw something down the road with her or something and I chuckled and said: "we're on our second "business meeting" and I'm not even thinking that far ahead. It's either you want to see someone again or you don't. "

Then she asked me if I had shut the door to romantic possibility and I said "oh I thought you had with the friendzone talk." She said no she hasn't.

I think I misplayed this next one here where I said: "you know, what, i could make you wait a day or two before contacting you. Make you sweat it out but what do you think, you want to go on another date?" She said yes and it's scary for her because it's a 3rd date. Next time though, I'm going to shut my mouth about any future dates and make them sweat it out and use their imagination.

This girl seems like she could be decent LTR because of a low partner count and she doesn't give it up easily but might be too much of a headache. She's been cheated on twice and clearly has trust/intimacy issues. May drop after 3rd date if it happens.

Thoughts and advice please.


Edit: right before dinner, she said she was going to show me pics of her friends and she said she could set me up with them. At this point, I thought that date was done especially given all the friendzone shit. I just said: "Oh sure. Give everyone one of them my number."

Come to think of it, this girl is really getting on my nerves.

Post: #150

This girl seems like a major player (hamster-wise) and is subconsciously shit-testing you hard. You didn't really pass the shit-tests because you feel into a justifying frame. Based on her behavior below, I've gathered she thinks she is hot shit and she can't have a normal conversation w/o testing you relentlessly. It doesn't matter if she has a low notch count or not, girls like this are a major headache and definitely not LTR material.

My advice would be to escalate hard and if it doesn't work out, next it otherwise you'll fall into the 'analysis' pattern where you will be constantly questioning why she does't want you. Don't waste time, it's not something you need to worry about.

(06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:  Turns out she's only had one partner and hasn't kissed very much so she isn't a good kisser and is embarrassed. Who knows if that's the truth.

BS excuses.

(06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:  she told me she friendzones a lot of guys….I told her I wouldn't accept that at all.

'Telling' and 'acting' are a little different. Telling her doesn't create attraction, acting like the hunted, having a very strong frame and treating her like a spoilt brat might.

(06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:  There was kino etc and then she pulls this: "ya so we're really good friends right?

Again with the friends shit.

(06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:  I said: "Ya totally. We can paint each other's nails and just KILL the attraction we have….She repeats the friend zone thing...I'm getting a bit salty so I just ignored it and said "cool!"

Losing frame….losing frame. You don't call out attraction or lack thereof. You escalate. Calling only makes things that are obviously not there more apparent. You are forcing the issue and it is getting to you.

(06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:  Shit test 2: we decided to get dinner after (she paid for drinks and dinner) and we were playing the questions game again. She asked me how many women I've had tinder dates with. I said 5. She asked me over what time frame I said under 2 weeks. She did not really like that. She then asked me how many of them have I been on more than 1 date with. I said 2 (including her) and she "jokingly" said "ok time to go!"

Is she Larry King? Is this a job interview? You should not be giving her direct answers. You should have a toothpick in your mouth, smiling, telling her not to let her little head worry about things like this…just be happy between all my tinder dating I managed to make time for you.
She is qualifying and you are justifying.

(06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:  I did not apologize for it and said: "haha you're salty now. I don't see it being an issue. it only matters if people are exclusive or not honest about it." she kind of agreed.

More justifying. Don't need to explain anything to her.

(06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:  Shit test 3: [/b]She brought up the friendzone thing again and saying we're friends….She said something about not being able to see anything down the road. I thought she said that about us but she said no, a guy she friendzoned off a tinder date (I asked her how many 2nd dates she's been on tinder and i'm the only one). Then she asked me if I saw something down the road with her or something and I chuckled and said: "we're on our second "business meeting" and I'm not even thinking that far ahead. It's either you want to see someone again or you don't. "

Then she asked me if I had shut the door to romantic possibility and I said "oh I thought you had with the friendzone talk." She said no she hasn't.

2nd date and all this ridiculous conversation has been had. Such a power struggle.

(06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:  This girl seems like she could be decent LTR because of a low partner count and she doesn't give it up easily but might be too much of a headache.

Low partner count isn't the only factor in determining LTR material. Lots of red flags here

(06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:  [/b]right before dinner, she said she was going to show me pics of her friends and she said she could set me up with them. At this point, I thought that date was done especially given all the friendzone shit. I just said: "Oh sure. Give everyone one of them my number."
Come to think of it, this girl is really getting on my nerves.

She has you responding emotionally, already creating drama. Set the tone and the frame and handle it.