Post: #76

^^It happened in college. Guess I looked older than my real age and girls would always ask me how old I was. Some girls would accuse me of lying. That stung a bit. After a week same chick who was rude would ask me to hang out. I was so pissed I told them to fuck off!

I really hate hate hate mixed messages and silly tests and have missed bang because I wont be disrespected. Maybe I am too sensitive.

Other insults I have heard

'antecedent. Do you know what it means?'
'he is boring.'
'that stupid mustache.'

Post: #77

(12-02-2014 02:47 PM)Pride male Wrote:  ^^It happened in college. Guess I looked older than my real age and girls would always ask me how old I was. Some girls would accuse me of lying. That stung a bit. After a week same chick who was rude would ask me to hang out. I was so pissed I told them to fuck off!

I really hate hate hate mixed messages and silly tests and have missed bang because I wont be disrespected. Maybe I am too sensitive.

Other insults I have heard

'antecedent. Do you know what it means?'
'he is boring.'
'that stupid mustache.'

Are you naturally aloof? What vibes do you give off to women? Are you nerdy or geeky? Jock? All 3? What's your body type like? What is your age? What was the setting in which these insults occurred? The club? The dorms?

That dude that was banned may have been on to something when he said they probably do not like you at all, but I would need more information to understand why, because that banned guy was an arrogant hater. You could talking to the wrong kinds of women or you could be something of a social misfit as far as we know. We need a better picture to better understand the situation.

Post: #78

^^Definitetly not jock. I was a bit dorky in college but I have since reformed. Setting for these assaults, lectures and tutorials or dining halls or the computer lab.

This is the thing I forgot to mention, the hottest girls never insulted me, they were nice but I had no balls. It is the mid tier bitches who were vicious and I wouldnt put up with their shit.

To all those who say insults are never shit tests what about William Wallace who was called low class by some chick? There is an Rok post on it.

Post: #79

(12-02-2014 11:40 PM)Pride male Wrote:  ^^Definitetly not jock. I was a bit dorky in college but I have since reformed. Setting for these assaults, lectures and tutorials or dining halls or the computer lab.

This is the thing I forgot to mention, the hottest girls never insulted me, they were nice but I had no balls. It is the mid tier bitches who were vicious and I wouldnt put up with their shit.

To all those who say insults are never shit tests what about William Wallace who was called low class by some chick? There is an Rok post on it.

Well, since this was the past a ways back. I would say, keep working on improving and your frame. Always be conscious about WHERE you place yourself, in regards to interactions with women. Location is always important, even more so as a post-college man. You want to be in places where women tend to have a better demeanor than that.

The reasons why pretty women do not do that is because they are not desperate for male attention. Mid tier and lower tier woman are almost always going to be the top ones pulling shit like this.

You really do not need shit test answers for lesser grade women unless you are trying to deflect nasty wingwomen and that is a skill onto it's own. Is there a thread for dealing with that?

Post: #80

I just wanted to stop by and say how happy I am that I found this space of the internet called the manosphere. So many things that I experience with girls know would have left me dumbfounded 2 or 3 years ago, are now simply fun easy, including shit tests.

One of girls im with is kinda playing hard to get, I am certain I would have floundered all of her talk if I met her in 2011. Couple of examples:

Me: Make plans/arrangements so we can see each other on Friday.
Her: Is that an order?
Me: Did it sound like one?
Her: Oh yes.
Me: That's probably because it is one.
Her: Ok, I'll listen this time

Another one from past weekend.
Me: Swing by my place this weekend (this is first time calling her to meet at my place)
Her: And what are we gonna do at your place?
Me: There is a fascinating dot on the ceiling in my room, I was planning to stare at it with you for the entire afternoon.
Radio silence until next day.
Her: At what time should I swing by?

It's just too easy now.

Post: #81

So I number closed on a girl in the mall and she added me on Snapchat. So our convo went like this:

Her: My friend wants to see your face lol
Me: Sends a pic with my face covered..is this good enough?
Her: No your whole face
Me: I haven't seen any faces yet
Her: Sends a selfie of her and her friend
Me: Sends a pic of my face

Little while later she snaps me again and after some back and forth out of the blue she snaps me a pic of one of her guy friends face saying "Dude your gay as f*uck"

My response: "I'm totally gay for you"

To which she screenshots (saves the picture) and doesn't reply. She lives in a different state so I don't really care what happens but this was just an interesting shit test and hopefully it helps someone else out if they ever get something like it.

Post: #82

This week- a chick from pof got sassy about giving her number. Told her to send me digits- she ignored the advance and countered by asking for mine instead.

Diffused that shite and got the number (without asking again) with a response adapted from the compendium of female shit tests. It's the damn bible for archetypal shit tests.
I have the responses memorized and it has definitely helped me improvise on the fly (especially when gaming at night).

Post: #83

(12-08-2014 11:35 PM)AllStar Wrote:  So I number closed on a girl in the mall and she added me on Snapchat. So our convo went like this:

Her: My friend wants to see your face lol
Me: Sends a pic with my face covered..is this good enough?
Her: No your whole face
Me: I haven't seen any faces yet
Her: Sends a selfie of her and her friend
Me: Sends a pic of my face

Little while later she snaps me again and after some back and forth out of the blue she snaps me a pic of one of her guy friends face saying "Dude your gay as f*uck"

My response: "I'm totally gay for you"

To which she screenshots (saves the picture) and doesn't reply. She lives in a different state so I don't really care what happens but this was just an interesting shit test and hopefully it helps someone else out if they ever get something like it.

You should've never responded. Why reward her horrible behavior? Should've sent a dick pic at worst, no response at best.

Post: #84

Not sure how to respond to this. Any inputs would be greatly appreciated.

Me: "if you wanna ask me out, you could just say so, there's no need to beat around the bush"

Her " oh please if you put it that way, don't be cray"

Me "is this your way of playing hard to get?"

Her " dude one things for sure I don't play hard to get haha"

Post: #85

I've got a few I'd be interested to see how others would respond:

-When a girl asks if you are seeing other people or having sex with other people (sometimes framed as a health concern so you can't avoid answering honestly).

-When a girl says she misses you, or moreso; asks if you miss her.

-When she asks you about your opinions on socially controversial shit like male vs. female promiscuity or gender roles.

-Generally how you deal with and maintain frame with girls who are direct/blunt/lightly-confrontational and try to force you to be transparent.

This is mostly about gauging when to be completely honest and forward and when to be sarcastic/joking/indirect/avoiding and what kinds of consequences it could have.

Post: #86

(12-09-2014 01:04 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  -When a girl asks if you are seeing other people or having sex with other people (sometimes framed as a health concern so you can't avoid answering honestly).

1) no i am a virgin
2) actually i had sex with 10 people today
3) now i'm not having sex with anyone right now, (i'm right here talking to you)

(12-09-2014 01:04 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  -When a girl says she misses you, or moreso; asks if you miss her.

1) wait, who is this again?
2) yeah i miss you too (can't make a big deal of this, something as meaningless as this should be easy to say, like saying "yeah i do like chicken")

(12-09-2014 01:04 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  -When she asks you about your opinions on socially controversial shit like male vs. female promiscuity or gender roles.

1) turn the question back to her to find out how you should game her or if you should next her

(12-09-2014 01:04 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  -Generally how you deal with and maintain frame with girls who are direct/blunt/lightly-confrontational and try to force you to be transparent.

at some point you need to be real and be "honest"

Post: #87

(12-10-2014 10:03 AM)bigbait Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 01:04 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  -When a girl asks if you are seeing other people or having sex with other people (sometimes framed as a health concern so you can't avoid answering honestly).

1) no i am a virgin
2) actually i had sex with 10 people today
3) now i'm not having sex with anyone right now, (i'm right here talking to you)

These are all good sarcastic/joke/agree+amplify answers but what if you're in a situation where outright making a joke answer isn't really feasible. I'll give more context:

Say you're banging a girl raw dog and it becomes more than a one time thing - maybe she's the kind of girl you like to keep around - this question is likely bound to come up. Maybe she is an STD hypochondriac so making sure she's having clean sex is super important to her. She asks you about it and you give a joke answer and maybe change the subject. She laughs but pushes the issue "Haha but no really are you? You need to tell me because if you are then we need to be using condoms" I feel like this is a particularly tricky situation because you can't exactly lie (unless you don't rawdog anyone else besides her and hope you don't pick up anything and give it to her) but if you answer her in this "truthful" context then you are essentially being forced to give up your cards. You're either playing her and banging other girls at the same time, or you are exclusive fucking her and appear to be "off the market" for a girl you've only known for a few weeks.

Post: #88

So I got a number from an Asian girl at college and we were texting and this is a snippet of the conversation (word for word):

Her: Lol but yea nvm just being mean to me, idc lol hey do you go to the gym
Me: Sure do...gotta stay fit! [I know this was lame but I couldn't come up with something better]
Her: What?? Really? You look skinny though. I mean maybe you look skinny outside but fit inside lol I always wanted to go to the gym but i'm so lazy
Me: Haha nice try...for all you know I could have a huuuge beer belly that's hidden underneath my coat [I was wearing a coat when I got her number]

This was an obvious shit test and I'm pretty new to game so I'm open to any comments/criticism.

Post: #89

Her: What do you mean "girly" drink that's kind of offensive...
Ignored it and continued talking for a few more minutes then bailed. Later, in my head: "Damn! bitch just shit tested me...oh wait...that was totally an IOI...and she's a little HB 8+...

returned to the scene a few hours later, she was there, got the #.

Post: #90

@allstar. "Only to look at girls butts while they're in downward dog position"

In response to the skinny comment "I'm big where it matters"

Post: #91

I had to get this off my chest.
I dont think its really a shit test. Its pretty much me shutting the girl out.
But I guess it falls under shit test.

I've been texting this girl I met on OKC.
She dressed plain.. nothing special about her..we schedule a date for tonight.
I convince her to do drive 40 minutes to the hotel bar Im staying at.
I figured.. I had it in the bag
She comes to the hotel and we talk for maybe an hour.

Worst conversation of my life..She is boring as fuck.. has nothing interesting to say.
The most out of her that I got was that she use to be fat.. took up long distance running and soccer and lost all the weight.
But she couldnt converse about anything else.. and She probably had no friends on her soccer team.. cause she was just awkward.

Eventually in my head.. I said fuck it. and invited her to my room.
And she tried to make an excuse anyway.
So I told her..Im going to my room either way..cause I have my own alcohol..Id rather drink my wine..than this places.
And I left

It was either.. she gets fucked.. or she leave my hotel..no hard feelings


I get a text a couple minutes later from her, saying that we should get lunch tomorrow.
I told her "I don't do lunch dates"
her reply "Well, isn't a lunch date better than no date:

I told her "No..lunch date doesn't even found fun"


I was kinda hoping that she would make her mind up..realized that she needed the dick.. and come straight to the room.
But..She didn't
No hard feelings..easy come easy go.
She wasted her time driving 40 minutes to see me.. just to go home because she sucked at conversation and I wasnt gonna play games to get her to come to my room

Post: #92

Girl: "Why did you have to lie?"

Me: "Because it's too much fun."

Post: #93

Golden oldie, from the days of Mystery and Style:

B: "Are you gay?"
Me: "No. Sorry to disappoint you."
or...
Me: "Not yet. I haven't met the right guy."

I've only been thrown this curveball once, but it was actually at a gay club when I went with some gay friends of mine. Girl with juicy fake titties asks me just that and I respond with the first. Laughs her ass off. We keep dancing. I dance pretty well, so she shit-tests again and says "you dance like a gay guy, are you sure you're not gay!?" So I said "I'll take that as a compliment," followed by "but no, not gay yet. right guy bla bla."

So many things could have worked, in retrospect... but at least I passed. In spite of her groping me and her showing me her titties on the floor, this was pre-RVF and my logistics were dog shit, so I didn't close. Live and learn.

Post: #94

Got one today.

Girl: "Sorry I don't talk to liars."
Me: "K".

I don't see what else I could answer.

Post: #95

(12-14-2014 08:31 PM)Kamikaze Wrote:  Golden oldie, from the days of Mystery and Style:

B: "Are you gay?"
Me: "No. Sorry to disappoint you."
or...
Me: "Not yet. I haven't met the right guy."

I've only been thrown this curveball once, but it was actually at a gay club when I went with some gay friends of mine. Girl with juicy fake titties asks me just that and I respond with the first. Laughs her ass off. We keep dancing. I dance pretty well, so she shit-tests again and says "you dance like a gay guy, are you sure you're not gay!?" So I said "I'll take that as a compliment," followed by "but no, not gay yet. right guy bla bla."

So many things could have worked, in retrospect... but at least I passed. In spite of her groping me and her showing me her titties on the floor, this was pre-RVF and my logistics were dog shit, so I didn't close. Live and learn.

This has happened to me a few times in my local environment. A lot of gays.

Example:

At a club, I am introduced to this girl and I signal my intentions via body language and eye contact. She feels a bit nervous but reciprocates.

Immediately she busts out "You're very stylish, are you gay?"

Me: No. (proceed to invade personal space)

Her: Not here. My boyfriend is there. (He was talking to some other guys at the bar).

She takes my hand and we go into the crowd near the dancefloor.

Her: "If he asks, you're my gay friend who I met tonight via so and so"

Kiss. Release.

Me: "Cool. I will be over there."


Eye-contact the whole night but nothing happened; was not thirsty enough to re-initiate. Instead, I made out with another girl (who fucking happened to be 17) and made her jealous.


This is one of the more amicable ones. Either way, I just respond with a 'no' and check her out intently. That is about as far as I will go and I have a lot of these encounters.

I have a lot of gay guys who will hit on me and if I am with a friend, I will troll and say they're my boyfriend and get free drinks. Then I will meet their hot (always hot) female friends and blow my cover once it is too late and I am perceived as 'safe'.

"Fuck it was too good to be true" or "Fuck we knew you weren't gay."

This shit test is common if you:

a) hang out in gay areas
b) have a group of hot girls with you and speak to other girls
c) are very stylish
d) have a gay guy in your group
e) have a feminine energy about you (this is self-explanatory)

I keep getting "you're a player" shit test. This one girl last week outright told me that she won't sleep with me because she knows for a fact that I am banging '3' other girls.

Fuck, they will say whatever they want, true or not.

I simply say: "Yes so what"

Post: #96

"You're a player".

Yes ofcourse. I play [insert sport/game].

Post: #97

(12-15-2014 09:34 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  "You're a player".

Yes ofcourse. I play [insert sport/game].

I used to use that but they will bring it up again if you continue escalating.

Then it was "Damn right, I am the type of guy your mother warned you about." but I found "yes/indeed" as more effective.

I would rather nip it in the bud.

Post: #98

I matched with a very cute German girl on exchange in the USA. I messaged her not expecting much because getting really hot girls on Tinder is almost like a lottery unless you look like Brad Pitt. Anyways, we start chatting but I'll paraphrase the conversation like this:

Me: [talking about recent trip to Brazil]
Her: Oh, I have a couple Brazilian friends, they are very open minded.
Me: What do you mean by open minded?
Her: I meant they like to meet other people. They are GIRLS come on dude.
Me: Haha I know I'm just giving you a hard time.
Her: Oh so you're that type of guy? Where's the unmatch button haha
Me: Haha top right of the phone
Her: Can't find it haha
...
Convo continues and I get the number. Made plans for coffee.

Basic shit test. She was expecting me to plead not to unmatch with her since she's really hot but instead I held frame and it worked out better than expected.

Post: #99

(12-17-2014 01:07 AM)tallandblonde Wrote:  I matched with a very cute German girl on exchange in the USA. I messaged her not expecting much because getting really hot girls on Tinder is almost like a lottery unless you look like Brad Pitt. Anyways, we start chatting but I'll paraphrase the conversation like this:

Me: [talking about recent trip to Brazil]
Her: Oh, I have a couple Brazilian friends, they are very open minded.
Me: What do you mean by open minded?
Her: I meant they like to meet other people. They are GIRLS come on dude.
Me: Haha I know I'm just giving you a hard time.
Her: Oh so you're that type of guy? Where's the unmatch button haha
Me: Haha top right of the phone
Her: Can't find it haha
...
Convo continues and I get the number. Made plans for coffee.

Basic shit test. She was expecting me to plead not to unmatch with her since she's really hot but instead I held frame and it worked out better than expected.

I don't think this is a shit test. She was teasing you, hence the "haha"

Post: #100

I just got a new job at a restaurant and I get these shit test all the fucking time. I need some help on a few..
" Do you check out girls?"
- pretty sure i failed because the she said "im into girls"

"Did you have sex with xxx yet?" (hostesses)

I get a ton of them and it fucks me that i know what they are but get quiet after the conversation ends..