Post: #1876

^ Damn. Well you know what if the pussy is so easy for so many guys what makes a guy think it is only easy for him. That's some real shit though.

I was gonna ask "hey how old are you what are you going after", 27yo game aware guy dating within a few years. This isn't a pretty picture.

If your hand keeps getting bitten why do you keep going back (staying)?

Post: #1877

That all happened between 2011 - 2013.

I was naive back then and didn't listen to all the longer term expats I know who basically told me not to trust the girls here. I thought they were jaded cynical arseholes, but now I know exactly where they were coming from.

I've adapted now and play the game the girls are playing. No more relationships, keep a harem on rotation and life is good.

Post: #1878

Online Game in the Philippines is shit nowadays. Maybe it is just me but I feel like 99% of the girls on Filipinocupid and Dateinasia are ugly (Cebu and Manila). Tinder is slightly better, especially in Manila. In Cebu I ran out of girls to swipe after only 2 days. However, Nightgame in Cebu is great which brings me to my question: Are there any decent nightlife venues in Manila that are comparable to the clubs at Mango Square in Cebu? From my impression, Manila is either high end (the clubs in the Fort) or packed with hookers. I need something in between. I know Mango Square also has lots of hookers but most of them are outside. I could always find normal girls when I went out there.

Post: #1879

Dipar, you need to get yourself to Ortigas and Quezon City mate....The hookers are in the high, medium and low end places here in Makati and The Fort!

I'm just leaving work now but will post some options for you tomorrow....is this your first trip to Manila?

Post: #1880

I stayed for 2 days in Makati a while ago but didn't go out at night. Before I fly back to Bangkok in 2 weeks I want to give Manila another shot for a few days. I know there is tons of information on Manila on this forum, but somehow it's really tough to find out what the good night venues nowadays are. Just like the city itself, the information here on the forum is a bit chaotic.

Post: #1881

Read the whole thread. Good stuff guys.

Question: When pipelining, do you bother to move to sexualize the conversations, or stick to comfort and then logistics when you land?

Post: #1882

(08-27-2015 03:17 AM)Dipar Wrote:  Online Game in the Philippines is shit nowadays. Maybe it is just me but I feel like 99% of the girls on Filipinocupid and Dateinasia are ugly (Cebu and Manila).

You really really really need to get out of the makati area. Online is too fagged up with lame foreigners of all stripe looking for easy pussy now. Office or social pipeline is the only way to go. Live way north or way south of Makati for online.

Aside from F.C. ..tagged is also a thing. The sweet pinays now have tagged, F.C., facebook, and a bunch of other shit to find their "suitor."

The vocational and post h.s. 18-22 set is still sweet as can be though. You really need to get them while they are still not knocked up or too spoiled from omega level foreigner courtship.

Post: #1883

Here's an update regarding my situation:

- Her Facebook has plenty of pics of another (white, older) guy (lot's of romantic gestures, "love" mentioned more than a
few times). I should have investigated this from the start, however was still in a bit of shock and wasn't thinking straight.
Another Pinay I'm seeing here in Australia actually suggested this (and a few other methods);

- Baby has same surname as the guy (despite no father listed on the birth certificate);

- She lied about the baby's date of birth (born 7 months after I met her, not in incubator);

- When confronted about the relationship, she claimed that they were broken up for the period that I was with her (to avoid
being slut shamed I guess); and

- When questioned about her confidence in me being the father, she claimed that "he can't have any more kids"
(presumably because of the snip).

Here's my theory - she was already in the early stages of pregnancy when she met me (hence her indifference to me blasting inside the one and only time I did), and she just wanted a final fling before popping out the kid.

As to why she's claiming that the kid is mine though, i have no idea, maybe just to create a bit of drama because she's bored/getting no attention.

Post: #1884

If it was me i wouldn't respond to her messages and such..... just forget about everything including her and move on.

Post: #1885

(08-26-2015 11:48 PM)Alex3000 Wrote:  I've been in the Philippines going on 4 years now and have been in 3 relationships of 6+ months each.

First: I caught her stealing money from me.

Second: I left for 2 weeks to Australia to so see my sister after giving birth to her daughter. I came back and she gave me the clap.

Third: I invested a lot in this girl. Brought her to Australia and other trips abroad. She came back to the Philippines 6 weeks earlier than myself after spending 3 months in Australia together. After returning I woke up one morning to the sound of a phone vibrating in her underwear draw. I found the phone and read 100+ messages between herself and a Swedish guy who lives in Cebu (where she's from) detailing their sexual escapades in the 6 weeks that I was gone.

So, all I can say is, never trust a Filipina. No matter what you believe her to be. I'm 27 years old and all the girls were within a few years of myself.

In the meantime, I'm still here, and I've got a 19 year old college student visiting me after class this afternoon for a quickie before she goes home to her French boyfriend. Do i care? No, I don't.

This is sickening to read. It's a shame they can't keep their legs shut. But if that were the case then we wouldn't be able to plough through them.

Easy come, easy go.

Post: #1886

(08-27-2015 10:07 AM)Windom Earle Wrote:  As to why she's claiming that the kid is mine though, i have no idea, maybe just to create a bit of drama because she's bored/getting no attention.

Ruthless. Actually something similar happened to me. As soon as I mentioned a DNA test in an episode I had before, things started to turn for the better. In your case as soon as you mention the DNA test things start to turn out for the better.

My theory is, girls test us to see how they can use us to benefit their situation. Do you think you were the only guy she said that too? But they know they can't escape a DNA test so they make up some bullshit so they can make an exit - because they don't really know who the father is.

Pregnancy isn't a blessing, but DNA tests sure are.

(08-27-2015 12:45 AM)Alex3000 Wrote:  No more relationships, keep a harem on rotation and life is good.

This is the only way to win in the Philippines. More guys get screwed over than they do live happily ever after.

I think the moment you get any kind of emotions or attachments to these girls is the time to break it off.

Post: #1887

(08-25-2015 10:46 PM)Robert Plant Wrote:  While I agree that you have to be super suspicious in the Philippines because many of the girls are in extreme poverty and looking for any way out they can find. Filipinas are not awful girls by any means and most of them are very sweet. I have a hot, 40 year old cougar in my harem there who owns a couple of condos. Although I don't know her well, she seems very legit. If I asked her to commit to me, I am 99.9% sure she would be faithful.

Younger girls are much more likely to ride the cock carousel than older girls in general. This has very little to do with the Philippines. My youngest harem member in the Phils is a super cute 21 year old and I'm just waiting for her to jump to another guy. Not because she's a slut, but she's 21 and sowing her wild oats. That's simply what 21 year olds do. It doesn't matter what culture you are in, younger women aren't much different than young guys, they try on different hats. It's the same in Western countries. In the Philippines the girls are just sweeter more feminine and perhaps better at hiding it. I think this sometimes leads guys to think they have been royally fucked over when a young girl swings with another guy.

Robert Plant, might you have any advice for getting the Filipina cougars (and older women in general) to consider you? My experience with older Filipinas is that they often brush me off. I don't know whether they think I'm looking to be taken care of financially or what? (Maybe she's worried this is how it would look to others?). I'm often attracted to older women (I'm mid thirties), but can't seem to get past what I would call the "shit-tests" of Filipinas who happen to be older than me. And for sure, there are some stunners that fit that category! ;-) I don't run into this with 'pinas who are the same age or younger than me...

Post: #1888

This is why I laugh when dudes come on here saying they banged a virgin in the Phils.

Post: #1889

(08-27-2015 06:08 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  This is why I laugh when dudes come on here saying they banged a virgin in the Phils.

Or anywhere for that matter.

Post: #1890

(08-27-2015 12:45 AM)Alex3000 Wrote:  That all happened between 2011 - 2013.

I was naive back then and didn't listen to all the longer term expats I know who basically told me not to trust the girls here. I thought they were jaded cynical arseholes, but now I know exactly where they were coming from.

I've adapted now and play the game the girls are playing. No more relationships, keep a harem on rotation and life is good.

You can read my last post,, I said "don't ever trust a filipina" this was drilled into my head the day off the plane. Who told me? A 5 year vet over here in the PI.. he said you go to vietnam if you want love (girls are different there). Here, lies are spoken every other sentence. There is no such thing as "truth" or "guilt" here in the Phils.. I repeat.. never trust a pinay.

Post: #1891

(08-26-2015 06:38 AM)Ben Garrison Wrote:  Uberbicep: about the red flag of their having foreign guys on facebook, I don't think that's always a huge deal, a lot of girls just add friends like they're playing pokemon to get up to a few thousands "friends", so almost all of them will have some. Though if they are making cheeky comments on pictures and the like then yeah I agree. Some of these filipinas, the dumb ones, are quite open about how they get fucked and chucked on their facebook, it's depressing and hilarious in equal measure to see how they're all loved up one week and the next they're depressed and threatening to quit facebook (for real this time!). If they're an 8 or something you can see tons of beta orbiters (never pinoy though) cheerleading them and being an emotional tampon with every single post they make about their sordid affairs.

I know what you're saying but I want to disagree a bit or at least make this point. Here's what I've come to know from speaking to a few expats that have been here for a long time (one got here in '72 and has been here long term since). They've told me things and taught me things about the culture that I have not heard repeated anywhere but from them.

Let me just leave it at this, facebook/smart phones and the like are ATM's in their minds. If they get enough foreign "suckers" they can make their smartphone/tablet/laptop literally spit out pesos on command.

*Cue "the twilight zone" theme music* - Imagine if you will, a lifetime of struggle for eons until one day a spaceship lands in the Phils, alien gets out and like a santa clause from Mars, starts whipping out millions of space aged gagits that links poor 3rd world filipinas with leaders of the free-world aka "heaven on earth" (america/uk/etc). The only thing that is necessary is for English to be comprehensible and lie believable. If so, a whole family (generation) could be saves from dire poverty.

To you, that might seem like "over kill" in my analogy but they are "this close!" to winning the lotto, (a lottery that soooo many other filipinas have already won, showing off green cards, citizenship, jewelry, houses, cars..etc.
Hell, they will "play" as many "tickets" as they can to win. The only loyalty is that of their family/tribe. Lie, steal, cheat, play you for years only to ditch you in the end.

Facebook is Not an innocent tool for attention, it is the vice (that's why they have 2+ accounts that they will rarely tell you about) they use (along with about 10 others) to track down their pray.

It's funny because a few post up, guys where saying they like "the trill of the chase or hunt" but pinays are saying that about you, while you are saying its "too easy". The hunter is being hunted and is focusing on how "easy" it is.. little does he know that a girl can snare the heart if she sucks it just right.. lol

If you let that sink in for a while, you will understand its a sex war. They give it up not because they are whores (just look to the HISO kinds that won't give it up), they are whores or sacrifices for their families.

So as long as you understand they're after a prize with much more determination than one can ever imagine. PinayVajayjay is a hell of drug fellas, for all the older guys here, in the words of the old sergeant (hill street blues) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmg86CRBBtw

Post: #1892

When I write posts about the nature of Filipinas, I sometimes feel like I'm going too far. That I'm too cynical or jaded.

But then I hear more stories like the ones above and they only confirm my impressions.

This is a great country for sex, but extreme caution is required for anything more than that.

Better to enjoy those tight, tanned bodies and let other guys be the suckers.

Post: #1893

(08-29-2015 07:19 PM)DejudeandRice Wrote:  *Cue "the twilight zone" theme music* - Imagine if you will, a lifetime of struggle for eons until one day a spaceship lands in the Phils, alien gets out and like a santa clause from Mars, starts whipping out millions of space aged gagits that links poor 3rd world filipinas with leaders of the free-world aka "heaven on earth" (america/uk/etc). The only thing that is necessary is for English to be comprehensible and lie believable. If so, a whole family (generation) could be saves from dire poverty.

To you, that might seem like "over kill" in my analogy but they are "this close!" to winning the lotto, (a lottery that soooo many other filipinas have already won, showing off green cards, citizenship, jewelry, houses, cars..etc.
Hell, they will "play" as many "tickets" as they can to win. The only loyalty is that of their family/tribe. Lie, steal, cheat, play you for years only to ditch you in the end.

Facebook is Not an innocent tool for attention, it is the vice (that's why they have 2+ accounts that they will rarely tell you about) they use (along with about 10 others) to track down their pray.

If you let that sink in for a while, you will understand its a sex war. They give it up not because they are whores (just look to the HISO kinds that won't give it up), they are whores or sacrifices for their families.

So as long as you understand they're after a prize with much more determination than one can ever imagine.

It is staggering until you see it at first had - a 20 year old girl from the provinces with no money and no education, snagging (relatively) rich guys from the other side of the world, to the point of marriage and being swept off to the land of milk and honey.

They do it armed with just a cheap phone and a hard-wired cunning and persistence. They'll be contacting a dozen guys at once, calling them honey and babe, just the most simple-minded stuff imaginable. And it works, for the lucky ones.

It's kind of an inspiration for marketers like myself.

Post: #1894

The goal of virtually all Filipinas is to get out of the Philippines and gain permanent residency of a developed Western country (USA, Canada, Australia, UK, Western Europe). The Philippines is one of the most overcrowded and poorest countries in the world, with pretty much no chance of improving in the future.

The average Filipina has probably heard many stories like how her cousin "Maria" met an American man online and he took her back to the US, and now she is living a comfortable life and has the opportunity to travel frequently. Or how her friend "Doris" met an Australian man in Manila, and he took her back to Australia where she also lives in a large house with a large backyard and has a job making decent money.

These women are well aware that they are probably going to be pumped and dumped by many guys before they hit the jackpot. They may get pumped and dumped by dozens of guys, but all they need is for just one man to fall in love with her and to take her back to his home country. Getting repeatedly pumped and dumped is a small price to pay in comparison to getting sponsored to migrate to a developed Western nation. These women aren't looking for love. These women aren't looking for a man. They are looking for a way out. This isn't true only for women from the Philippines; it applies to many women living in South-East Asia, but Filipinas appear to be the most notorious for it.

That's why if you're going to go to the Philippines for a bang trip, ensure that you do not form an emotional attachment to any woman (I understand that this is easier said than done).

Post: #1895

I think this is also the reason why younger guys like me are having a harder time in the Philippines. The majority of girls is looking for financial stability and prefer older men (30+). I am doing ok so far in the Philippines but mostly from nightgame with club sluts. I had a lot more success with girls in Bangkok (also simply because there are more good looking girls) than in the Philippines and I never came across a girl in Thailand who said I am too young for her or not rich enough. I feel like in Bangkok it can be a plus to be a youngish, good looking foreigner (even though there is a lot more competition) whereas in the Philippines it can be a disadvantage sometimes. Girls here tell me how gwapo I am and an hour later I find the same girls dancing and making moves on ugly 40 year old guys.

Post: #1896

(08-30-2015 06:22 AM)Dipar Wrote:  I think this is also the reason why younger guys like me are having a harder time in the Philippines. The majority of girls is looking for financial stability and prefer older men (30+). I am doing ok so far in the Philippines but mostly from nightgame with club sluts. I had a lot more success with girls in Bangkok (also simply because there are more good looking girls) than in the Philippines and I never came across a girl in Thailand who said I am too young for her or not rich enough. I feel like in Bangkok it can be a plus to be a youngish, good looking foreigner (even though there is a lot more competition) whereas in the Philippines it can be a disadvantage sometimes. Girls here tell me how gwapo I am and an hour later I find the same girls dancing and making moves on ugly 40 year old guys.

I think there's truth in this, I've certainly seen my share of hot filipinas with morbidly obese and unattractive western guys, it's pretty obvious it's all about the money with some girls when you see shit like "looking for caring guy 30-70" on dating profiles, they're looking for beta bucks, though most of them are up for some alpha fucks too, especially if they're not a single mom, at that point all they want is a provider.

Post: #1897

You might want to change your approach and give them
the impression you are and up and comer.

Make no mistake - they do NOT want to sleep with a 40+ yr
old over a 25 year old.

One of the reasons they like older guys....is that their perception
is that older guys take things more slowly and are less interested
in sex or banging lots of girls. Therefore are better for them to run
THEIR game on.

My 2 cents.

(08-30-2015 06:22 AM)Dipar Wrote:  I think this is also the reason why younger guys like me are having a harder time in the Philippines. The majority of girls is looking for financial stability and prefer older men (30+). I am doing ok so far in the Philippines but mostly from nightgame with club sluts. I had a lot more success with girls in Bangkok (also simply because there are more good looking girls) than in the Philippines and I never came across a girl in Thailand who said I am too young for her or not rich enough. I feel like in Bangkok it can be a plus to be a youngish, good looking foreigner (even though there is a lot more competition) whereas in the Philippines it can be a disadvantage sometimes. Girls here tell me how gwapo I am and an hour later I find the same girls dancing and making moves on ugly 40 year old guys.

Post: #1898

(08-29-2015 06:19 PM)DejudeandRice Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 12:45 AM)Alex3000 Wrote:  That all happened between 2011 - 2013.

I was naive back then and didn't listen to all the longer term expats I know who basically told me not to trust the girls here. I thought they were jaded cynical arseholes, but now I know exactly where they were coming from.

I've adapted now and play the game the girls are playing. No more relationships, keep a harem on rotation and life is good.

You can read my last post,, I said "don't ever trust a filipina" this was drilled into my head the day off the plane. Who told me? A 5 year vet over here in the PI.. he said you go to vietnam if you want love (girls are different there). Here, lies are spoken every other sentence. There is no such thing as "truth" or "guilt" here in the Phils.. I repeat.. never trust a pinay.

Anyone else concur that Vietnam is better for LTR than the Phils?

Post: #1899

(08-30-2015 09:09 AM)Dantes Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 06:19 PM)DejudeandRice Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 12:45 AM)Alex3000 Wrote:  That all happened between 2011 - 2013.

I was naive back then and didn't listen to all the longer term expats I know who basically told me not to trust the girls here. I thought they were jaded cynical arseholes, but now I know exactly where they were coming from.

I've adapted now and play the game the girls are playing. No more relationships, keep a harem on rotation and life is good.

You can read my last post,, I said "don't ever trust a filipina" this was drilled into my head the day off the plane. Who told me? A 5 year vet over here in the PI.. he said you go to vietnam if you want love (girls are different there). Here, lies are spoken every other sentence. There is no such thing as "truth" or "guilt" here in the Phils.. I repeat.. never trust a pinay.

Anyone else concur that Vietnam is better for LTR than the Phils?

Yes. I hooked up with a legit virgin in Vietnam. However, many of the girls there too are becoming westernized, albeit at a slow rate.

Edit - Keep in mind I haven't been to the Philippines, but I'm judging from what I'm reading here.

Post: #1900

(08-30-2015 10:03 AM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

(08-30-2015 09:09 AM)Dantes Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 06:19 PM)DejudeandRice Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 12:45 AM)Alex3000 Wrote:  That all happened between 2011 - 2013.

I was naive back then and didn't listen to all the longer term expats I know who basically told me not to trust the girls here. I thought they were jaded cynical arseholes, but now I know exactly where they were coming from.

I've adapted now and play the game the girls are playing. No more relationships, keep a harem on rotation and life is good.

You can read my last post,, I said "don't ever trust a filipina" this was drilled into my head the day off the plane. Who told me? A 5 year vet over here in the PI.. he said you go to vietnam if you want love (girls are different there). Here, lies are spoken every other sentence. There is no such thing as "truth" or "guilt" here in the Phils.. I repeat.. never trust a pinay.

Anyone else concur that Vietnam is better for LTR than the Phils?

Yes. I hooked up with a legit virgin. However, many of the girls there too are becoming westernized, albeit at a slow rate.

How about receptiveness to age differences as compared to the Phils?