Sure you dont wanna help the community with the cities?
And how do you actually know if they up for it ?


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I also spent some time in Taiwan, and while this is the Philippines thread, there is a lot of OFW living and working there. Lots in Taipei, but also lots further out (I'm not going to name the cities), but the OFW women outside of Taipei are very keen to fuck, some even have kids, a boyfriend or a husband back in the Philippines. I was fucking shocked at first, thinking it was a one off, but no, seems quite common given they are far away from home and nobody back home can see that far to know what they're up to. I didn't intend going to Taiwan to meet these girls, I was actually going for Chinese women and tourism, had one date with a Chinese woman who had the worst rotting fish breath I have ever come across (also dry heaved), didn't bang, and the next date after was a Filipina which is how I stumbled into this world of OFW who are very keen to bang foreigners. Average looking girls, but the supply and ease of it (I'm too lazy to put much effort into chasing women at this age) makes it worth while and in future I will be looking up these OFW in other countries I plan to visit (heading to HK next, some there - travelling not just for girls but sight seeing too).

Ok, question. . .
I'm not sure I understand the culture here. . .

The girl I pulled and banged last weekend. . .
At the nightclub, she had introduced me to her friends and they seemed to like me.
Outside, when she decided to come home with me her friend got my number for safety reasons. So far so good. . .

After the bang, her friend started messaging and calling me EVERYDAY - basically to ask me to go the nightclub again and hang out with them.
. . .mostly on behalf of the girl in question.
After a few days of me politely declining she went cold and deleted me (her friend).

The girl I had banged had gotten herself a whatsapp account in the meantime and had also begun contacting me everyday trying to flirt or whatever. She stopped too.

Physically she was a 7-8 but I wasn't that interested in her personally (no job, vague notions of graduating in the future, number of foreign boyfriends changed in the middle of the conversation, etc. . .) so I didn't chase her and when her friend began texting and calling me repeatedly I finally got creeped out.

Like. . . What the hell was that all about? A scam? Boyfriend hunting?

Your first hooker.

Welcome to the Philippines.

First time is free?

I already banged another girl from the same club - Instagram model type.
Then a month later someone tells me she's charging all these other guys.

Neither asked me for money, not even taxi money.

I don't think it'd really help you, or others, or myself to name specific places, and I'd hate to be identified (minimum risk, I know) but there are plenty of cities outside of Taipei that you could try, make a go of it and have an adventure, half the fun is ignoring other people's itinerary and doing your own thing, in your own style, that'll give you legit confidence and girls are very adept are sniffing out the fake kind.

Having said that, don't waste time with OFW that do aged care or house keeping as they can rarely get away from their job that often. I know a lot of guys know about OFW, but as far as I can tell going after them specifically in better off countries hasn't been discussed, not sure if that is within or outside of the rules of this thread on the forum.

Oh, and as how to tell if they're up for it? I was never direct, I'd meet them for lunch or dinner and then suggest going back to my hotel to watch a movie as I 'already saw everything' that's on at the cinema. I would also suggest activities for the following day and say well it's easier for you to just stay the night with me instead of going home, we'll save time that way - just entice them with something, anything, I wouldn't even mention sex because they hear this from every guy within the first 2 minutes along with demands for pics. Just take them back and start being playful and then it's on, they want to fuck, just prefer you are subtle about it so they don't need to feel bad.

(05-09-2019 09:18 AM)Americanas Wrote:  Sure you dont wanna help the community with the cities?
And how do you actually know if they up for it ?

Bookers in this country like to have fun. They'll bang for free if they like you or are bored

(05-09-2019 06:11 AM)skifree Wrote:  About a year back I had plans to relocate to Poland, but before I went ahead with that I thought I'd take a trip to the Philippines as I started reading this thread, and given its close proximity to Australia it made sense... I'm yet to even arrive in Poland so that probably tells you I've been distracted enough by my time in the Philippines to put it off until later. I've read this entire thread and kept up with it, visited the Philippines twice so far, and I'm headed back again soon for another month. I might stay longer this time around if I can be bothered dealing with a visa extension.

I'm gonna make a few comments without quoting others but they are specific to the last 25 pages or so (although I've read the entire thread, much of it is from so long ago as not to be relevant now).

Now, I can only compare my experiences to 2019 and not those others have had in years gone by, but despite all the claims in this thread as to the best days being over, I can't say I've had anything other than a good time and met some beautiful women - sure, some are fucking ugly too, but that's true of all women. Coming from Australia, it's a nice change to see women with long hair, no tattoos or piercings and of slim to average weight - yes some are fat, some have tattoos, but it's really few and far between and they can be easily ignored. I expect that will change in the years ahead as it has done in my own country, it's more a global issue than a Philippines problem though, as are many of the complaints in this thread.

I never bothered with Manila or Luzon in general, on my first trip I went straight to Davao and around Mindanao to meet with a girl I lined up online from DIA. To me, she's a 7 - beyond that, I won't say more as I don't want to get into a discussion of how to rate Filipino girls because everyones tastes differ and it's pointless - a girl gets a 5 from me for merely not being fat, having no tattoos and having a pleasant personality and symmetrical face. This girl, I'm having an LDR with, I might even marry, but obviously being the first one I met, I have also been playing the field, I have no moral issue with lying to her in this regard, I've done it in every relationship, whatever, alls fair in love and war.

So, Mindanao definitely has a lack of foreigners, I'm guesing because some people are scared to go - believe it or not, the Philippines itself doesn't rank that high as a tourist destination but it has been increasing if you look at international flight arrivals - did you know in 2019 Davao airport gets the same amount of international arrivals as Cebu did back in 1992 - that's how off the beaten track it is for most people. I didn't stay just in Davao but travelled around a little, and in 2 weeks I saw maybe 5 white guys, all older than me (I'm mid to late 30's), and only one that would've been within 10 years of my age. Here I got a lot of eye contact from local girls in shopping centres and out on the street.

As best I can tell, the girls will never approach you, but give you eye contact and smile, giggle and laugh with their friends to give you the opportunity to start a conversation with them. Every single time I went out I got indicators of interest. Now, I spent most of my time with my girlfriend, but even then, I took her with me to talk to these girls at the shopping centre just to get a feel for things and they're quite open to foreigners. Cue comments about having a pointed nose and blue eyes, I don't have hair due to baldness but I shave it every day, got a few comments from girls saying I look like Vin Diesel - hey, I'll fucking take it, lifting weights for years on end no doubt helps with that, maybe more like half-a-slav Vin Diesel but whatever. No girl ever seemed to be bothered by it, probably because I'm not, but I know this impacts some guys confidence - just shave it and lift weights, keep fit, it's really the only counter to being bald.

My experience in Cebu was a bit different. Here, not as many indicators of interest, and I saw more white guys within 5 minutes of landing than I did my entire time in Mindanao. The girls here look different to the ones from Mindanao - fatter, more of a western influence, more mobile reception so mobile phone culture has proliferated much more. I didn't meet a single woman here that I'd consider having a relationship with, but had sex with some. Every single of these women had previously had either sex or some bullshit relationship with a foreigner, and to me that's a no-no for moving to a relationship. Most of them seemed happy to accompany me for a drink, going to do tourist stuff, and eating. They are a lot of fun to be around, I didn't meet any that were pretentious, but I think they do suffer from some kind of wounded pride as they are a prideful people living in shit conditions for whatever reasons I won't discuss. They also suffer from a bit of an inferiority complex, I know all girls can be like this, but they really took the cake for the 'i don't like my face, i don't like my body, i don't like my tits, i don't like my pekpek' kind of talk, they seem to compare themselves to the western image of beauty (white women) for the most part. After spending a bit of time together, they were always keen to fuck and stay the night. I read some people having issues with door staff asking for a girls ID, but I never had this issue, I did not have that problem in Taiwan either (more on that soon). I think the idea is to walk with confidence but never make eye contact with any of the staff, they're not going to open you into a conversation without that because they lack the confidence and/or assertiveness to speak to you without the invitation of eye contact.. just act normal like you do this all the time. I stayed in some hotels and also airbnb, both of which had security and other staff in the lobby, and I always make a point of saying hello to them and being nice in passig when I'm not with a woman, say, when going down in the morning on my own to get a coffee.

Now, I think the Philippines is the kind of place where having a bit of money is a big help because you can treat the girls to an experience they just don't expect, and can't get with your typical foreigner who comes to the Philippines hoping to get laid on a budget or some old boomer who is on a pension. I really don't think it's a place for guys under 30 with no money - you can get further on being white and having money here than being young and good looking, and you guys imo would be better suited to places like Korea/Japan where you will get full value for your looks. Example - there was one girl in Cebu I really liked, she was a good bang, and was fun to be around, and I paid for her to fly with me to Palawan for a couple of days - I mean, the hotels cost the same whether it's just me or 2 people anyway, so I'm only out a cheap ticket which costs less a good meal in the west anyway. I know, some guys frown on this, but I'm also there to see new things, and it's more pleasant to do with a woman with you. Some of you guys will say I'm exactly the type of guy that has ruined it for other guys, but the cost is nothing for me, and I'm there for my enjoyment, I don't really care if some young guy can no longer impress a girl by buying her Jollibee.

What else..

I didn't encounter any scammers, I didn't get any requests for money either, and have yet to be approached or contacted by a lady boy - I really think some of this just wrong place, wrong time, could happen anywhere kind of deal. I was buying these girls a meal, drinks, letting them stay with me and swim in the condo pool, and basically just have a good time on my dime - it's not very expensive in all honesty so I wasn't bothered they didn't pay half for shit like taxis or dinner.

I also spent some time in Taiwan, and while this is the Philippines thread, there is a lot of OFW living and working there. Lots in Taipei, but also lots further out (I'm not going to name the cities), but the OFW women outside of Taipei are very keen to fuck, some even have kids, a boyfriend or a husband back in the Philippines. I was fucking shocked at first, thinking it was a one off, but no, seems quite common given they are far away from home and nobody back home can see that far to know what they're up to. I didn't intend going to Taiwan to meet these girls, I was actually going for Chinese women and tourism, had one date with a Chinese woman who had the worst rotting fish breath I have ever come across (also dry heaved), didn't bang, and the next date after was a Filipina which is how I stumbled into this world of OFW who are very keen to bang foreigners. Average looking girls, but the supply and ease of it (I'm too lazy to put much effort into chasing women at this age) makes it worth while and in future I will be looking up these OFW in other countries I plan to visit (heading to HK next, some there - travelling not just for girls but sight seeing too).

As for 'lifting to get girls who live in conditions like this', I consider health, fitness and lifting mandatory in this day and age regardless of whether you are chasing women or not, you must do it if you want to be taken seriously in this clown world and look to at least have some authority. Of course, you don't need steroids, but lifting will give you a certain amount of confidence in yourself that money just can't buy.

Overall, I like them for their personality first, and looks second. Some of them are very pleasant to be around and nice to spend (some) time with doing things outside of just fucking. The Philippines is not a place I'd want to live but it's definitely a place worth visiting if you're looking for short term fun and maybe even a longer term relationship althought a LTR is an entire different thing to deal with.

Oh, and how 'teh AIDS' isn't more prevelant there is beyond me, I never used protection, all passed the smell test and I've yet to catch anything, I don't know what it's like dealing with bar girls or P4P, although I guess some might argue what I did was P4P although there was never any arrangement prior to having sex for such things.

One last thing - a lot of the white guys I saw there are utter slobs - unshaven for days, holes in their shirt, getting around in thongs, and just look beat in general. Hey, I get that it's the Philippines, it's hot and you don't want to make a display of money, but you can still make yourself look presentable and respectable. I honestly think some of the problems some people claim to have there can be avoided by just proper grooming and proper fitting clothing.

Did you find Davao less expensive than Cebu? Is Davao a city you could stay long term in? Did the girls seem more conservative in Davao, compared to Cebu? Im in Cebu now and considering moving to Davao.

You don't have to go all the way to Davao, just go to Quezon City, or Mandaue.

People don't go to Mindanao for a reason, there's Muslim extremists there. People have been kidnapped and beheaded. Just a couple years ago was a bombing in the city center. And don't forget nearby Marawi, where Muslims took over a city of 200,000 and started a war that destroyed the entire place.

I was in Quezon City, didnt seem to be the safest place either for a white guy, the place I was staying was safe, but there was only a 5 min walk where I was not recommended to go at all. I would like to be in a cheaper place, I think Quezon city is further away than Davao. Why would I go to Mandaue?

Maybe you are right that its not the best city to stay long term in.. I have read posts from like 2012 where people are saying Davao is totally safe, so. What about Iloilo?Bacalod? Its important to me that its cheaper than Cebu and that its possible to find apartment with good internet connection.

(05-10-2019 05:11 AM)KingKrule Wrote:  Did you find Davao less expensive than Cebu? Is Davao a city you could stay long term in? Did the girls seem more conservative in Davao, compared to Cebu? Im in Cebu now and considering moving to Davao.

Cost wise, it's similar, but I don't look for the cheapest accommodation so I might not be the best person to ask. Mobile reception is pretty bad in some spots and the internet is slow. I personally wouldn't want to live there as there isn't much going on, it's more a place for having a family imo.

(05-10-2019 06:25 AM)KingKrule Wrote:  Maybe you are right that its not the best city to stay long term in.. I have read posts from like 2012 where people are saying Davao is totally safe, so. What about Iloilo?Bacalod? Its important to me that its cheaper than Cebu and that its possible to find apartment with good internet connection.

The net there is shit, I don't even know if fibre is available anywhere, it's much better in Cebu from my experience. As an ex-fatty, I wouldn't be going to Mindanao unless you are fit and in shape, and have your wits about you, that is probably enough to make anyone think twice about trying to kidnap you for ransom or at least makes it possible for you to get away if someone tries some shit, it does happen, some areas are a no go as far as aus government travel warnings are concerned and I couldn't get clarity on whether or not my travel insurance was void for being in such areas. That's life though isn't it.

. . .the fuck is wrong with these people???!!

I added to whatsapp a girl who kept messaging me on social media (social circle thing, not dating) to meet up. As soon as she added me, she started calling me on the phone like once a minute. Then, because I didn't feel like picking up the phone, went onto a tirade that she was just trying to check I'm not a fake profile, I'm not interested in her, that I'm an asshole, that she's not interested anymore, that just because I'm white and a foreigner i'm not all that, that I make fun of gay people (because at the beginning I showed her how some gaytard kept spamming my inbox), that she is going to the states soon so she's hoing to be more busy than me, etc. . .

Like. . . seriously. . . this kind of butthurt reactions are way too common here. . .

(05-10-2019 12:24 PM)HowOneBecomesWhatOneIs Wrote:  Like. . . seriously. . . this kind of butthurt reactions are way too common here. . .

You know who to call . . . .

   

(05-10-2019 12:24 PM)HowOneBecomesWhatOneIs Wrote:  . . .the fuck is wrong with these people???!!

... she started calling me on the phone like once a minute.

If she's a keeper, you can train her not to do this by explaining why it is considered extremely rude behaviour in the west to repeatedly call someone like this. Ya gotta nip it in the bud quickly though otherwise it'll escalate. It's not really an option to just look for a girl who doesn't use her phone because every single woman on the planet has one now, so you need to judge how she uses it instead. For example, my girlfriend has instagram, but her account is on private, and she shares pictures of places/food/us within her circle of church friends, there is no bikini thott crap going on.

If she's not a keeper, just block her if you have already banged her, or put your phone on silent and ignore her, tell her she's 'arte' much later, and then block her after you banged her.

They're prolific at time wasted on their phone, you're not gonna change it unless you go down to Jolo or something lol.

I picked up a girl from Royal one time. Took her home, banged in the morning as I was too wasted the night before.

Went out later to get her a taxi. Wouldn’t take taxi money. Kept in touch online for a few months. One day she says “next time you pay me”

The end.

Not every girl at Royal is a pro, but it’s damn close to it.

(05-10-2019 09:28 AM)skifree Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 05:11 AM)KingKrule Wrote:  Did you find Davao less expensive than Cebu? Is Davao a city you could stay long term in? Did the girls seem more conservative in Davao, compared to Cebu? Im in Cebu now and considering moving to Davao.

Cost wise, it's similar, but I don't look for the cheapest accommodation so I might not be the best person to ask. Mobile reception is pretty bad in some spots and the internet is slow. I personally wouldn't want to live there as there isn't much going on, it's more a place for having a family imo.

(05-10-2019 06:25 AM)KingKrule Wrote:  Maybe you are right that its not the best city to stay long term in.. I have read posts from like 2012 where people are saying Davao is totally safe, so. What about Iloilo?Bacalod? Its important to me that its cheaper than Cebu and that its possible to find apartment with good internet connection.

The net there is shit, I don't even know if fibre is available anywhere, it's much better in Cebu from my experience. As an ex-fatty, I wouldn't be going to Mindanao unless you are fit and in shape, and have your wits about you, that is probably enough to make anyone think twice about trying to kidnap you for ransom or at least makes it possible for you to get away if someone tries some shit, it does happen, some areas are a no go as far as aus government travel warnings are concerned and I couldn't get clarity on whether or not my travel insurance was void for being in such areas. That's life though isn't it.

Thanks, if the internet is shit I couldnt live there.. But will probably go for a small visit.

(05-10-2019 11:20 PM)SeaFM Wrote:  I picked up a girl from Royal one time. Took her home, banged in the morning as I was too wasted the night before.

Went out later to get her a taxi. Wouldn’t take taxi money. Kept in touch online for a few months.

It's called "long con". Some will even pay for YOUR drinks and food sometimes to make you believe they're not after money at all.

Quote:One day she says “next time you pay me”

The day she realized you're not long con material.

When a hooker says "I don't want money", what she really means is "I want MORE money. Much more. Later."

This is all very plausible.

Both girls I was talking about I pulled from Royal. (Lol)
Both made it a point in paying for all their stuff.
Both got me free drinks and shots through their friends.
Both were kind enough to stop me when it looked like I was going to eat their box (lol)

The first one had reasons to like me and later I've heard she was chasing another foreigner more or less my type.
She didn't try to hide the fact that she fucked like a pro or stay in touch.

The second one - now it gets weird - seemed like a better girl at first; with all the deliberating with her friends if she should come to my place and whatnot.
Then came the confusing stories, saying weird shit like "we didn't even know about Royal but some woman in Burgos street recommended us the place", "oh, sorry, I'm not good at sex, I'm not used to this". Lol And yeah she wasn't great. Then from that to try and get me to hangout in Royal with them again - like, everyday.

(05-10-2019 11:05 PM)skifree Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 12:24 PM)HowOneBecomesWhatOneIs Wrote:  . . .the fuck is wrong with these people???!!

... she started calling me on the phone like once a minute.

If she's a keeper, you can train her not to do this by explaining why it is considered extremely rude behaviour in the west to repeatedly call someone like this. Ya gotta nip it in the bud quickly though otherwise it'll escalate. It's not really an option to just look for a girl who doesn't use her phone because every single woman on the planet has one now, so you need to judge how she uses it instead. For example, my girlfriend has instagram, but her account is on private, and she shares pictures of places/food/us within her circle of church friends, there is no bikini thott crap going on.

If she's not a keeper, just block her if you have already banged her, or put your phone on silent and ignore her, tell her she's 'arte' much later, and then block her after you banged her.

They're prolific at time wasted on their phone, you're not gonna change it unless you go down to Jolo or something lol.

No keeper. Nothing. This one was some thot PMing me to hangout in Couchsurfing. 29 years old. From her pics I wasn't sure if I wanted to friendzone her instead.
I gave her my whatsapp since I was missing all her messages at the other place.
Next thing I know she starts calling me non-stop past midnight - even when I'm answering her messages.
Immediately after that, she goes sour and starts rambling about what an awful person I am and "you are not worth my time" kind of statements.
This is not the first time I get some weird fucked up drama from people in that website - in Philippines specifically.

Aside from my venting, I'm not sure anyone wrote about adjustments to game. My game is not good but, for example, if a girl in Europe comes to me with a silly pretentious attitude, I can often prove her wrong and the disagreement turns into banter (passing a test, basically).
Here, if a girl comes to me with a silly pretentious attitude, the disrespect is only going to escalate until I just cut her off completely. Same thing with attempts to agree and amplify; they just throw a hissy fit or block/delete me if it's chat.

Eddie is spot on, a girl in royal at best is a slut. I've banged normal girls from royal they were just majotlr sluts.

I also banked a hooker once there pretending to be a normal girl.

She invited me out to a bar in poblacion.still kept denying she was a whore. Even said she was a virgin 2 years ago. I decided to have a 3 way with her and a fuck buddy who was normal. Just make sure to wrap up.

Is it good to go to Philippines during June/July/August if you mainly want to bang backpacker girls?

A quick question: do you know a Manila airport terminal that only lets you in the door if you have proof of ticket? After a few days of banging, I want to get rid of my girlfriend by pretending I'm boarding a flight. However, I don't want her to get into the terminal and wait until I get my boarding pass. I just want to say goodbye to her as the taxi drops me off, do a quick walk around the terminal and then take a Grab to the next Airbnb. Any ideas?

(05-12-2019 03:11 PM)Nuas Wrote:  A quick question: do you know a Manila airport terminal that only lets you in the door if you have proof of ticket? After a few days of banging, I want to get rid of my girlfriend by pretending I'm boarding a flight. However, I don't want her to get into the terminal and wait until I get my boarding pass. I just want to say goodbye to her as the taxi drops me off, do a quick walk around the terminal and then take a Grab to the next Airbnb. Any ideas?

They all do in my experience.

You have to wait in line outside the terminal to see the standard security guard peering at the piece of paper with writing you have in your hand and get your bags screened before you get into the terminal.

You should be able to edit one of those with an airline logo and something looking like a flight on your day.

(05-12-2019 03:17 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(05-12-2019 03:11 PM)Nuas Wrote:  A quick question: do you know a Manila airport terminal that only lets you in the door if you have proof of ticket? After a few days of banging, I want to get rid of my girlfriend by pretending I'm boarding a flight. However, I don't want her to get into the terminal and wait until I get my boarding pass. I just want to say goodbye to her as the taxi drops me off, do a quick walk around the terminal and then take a Grab to the next Airbnb. Any ideas?

They all do in my experience.

You have to wait in line outside the terminal to see the standard security guard peering at the piece of paper with writing you have in your hand and get your bags screened before you get into the terminal.

You should be able to edit one of those with an airline logo and something looking like a flight on your day.

Wow..... Seems like a lot of lengths (and theatre) to go through in order to move onto the next bang.

(05-12-2019 03:57 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(05-12-2019 03:17 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(05-12-2019 03:11 PM)Nuas Wrote:  A quick question: do you know a Manila airport terminal that only lets you in the door if you have proof of ticket? After a few days of banging, I want to get rid of my girlfriend by pretending I'm boarding a flight. However, I don't want her to get into the terminal and wait until I get my boarding pass. I just want to say goodbye to her as the taxi drops me off, do a quick walk around the terminal and then take a Grab to the next Airbnb. Any ideas?

They all do in my experience.

You have to wait in line outside the terminal to see the standard security guard peering at the piece of paper with writing you have in your hand and get your bags screened before you get into the terminal.

You should be able to edit one of those with an airline logo and something looking like a flight on your day.

Wow..... Seems like a lot of lengths (and theatre) to go through in order to move onto the next bang.

I disagree with you as gentlemen can disagree. If she is a quality girl and you want to let her down easy... if you have the time for the extra ride to the airport and money is no object... and if at the last minute she is clinging to you (or feels obligated to accompany you to the airport)... Nothing wrong with leaving her with a lifetime memory of a great encounter and the illusion of true love. She will forever cherish the memory you two spent together and you keep your options open for a another rendezvous.

If however you treat it like a cheap encounter or dump her cold, she may label you a "player", curse you out and will even attempt to get revenge on you (this is from personal experience). Also, you will make it hard for anyone else on this forum to get another date with her. There is no need to poison the well.

Without wanting to turn philosophical, life is an illusion. We all, men and women, want to accumulate wonderful, meaningful memories. No sense in spoiling it, for both of you, just because you are not willing to put in the extra effort. Of course, I'm only talking about quality girls here, not freelancers or those riding the foreign-cock carousel. Those don't interest me.

Come on, guys... am I the only one who feels this way?

(05-12-2019 05:34 PM)Nuas Wrote:  If however you treat it like a cheap encounter or dump her cold, she may label you a "player", curse you out and will even attempt to get revenge on you (this is from personal experience). Also, you will make it hard for anyone else on this forum to get another date with her. There is no need to poison the well.

That being said, you had better make sure that you do not run into her while still residing in the Philippines.

After that airport charade, in her eyes your reputation will go from mere "player" to "calculating psycho."