Post: #1

One thing that resonated with me was Rollo's further explanation of the Wall for women. Basically, it's not that they become old widow's at 30, but that the realization is clear that they are certainly past their prime years and cannot compete with women in their prime SMV years. Obviously for us it's different, since our SMV is rising throughout our 20's. I'm just wondering how real the "realization" was for men in their upper 20's to mid 30's, when they came to an "epiphany" of their noticeably increased SMV and ability to pull higher quality and quantity of women. I'm 22 and moderately new to game, pull enough, but still have a long way to go and wonder how real and possible the improvements can be with applied action combined with the reality of our naturally increasing SMV.

Post: #2

Late 30's.

Probably look younger than most, and would look younger still with much better lifestyle, but the wall

- your average college girl KNOWS that you're older than her.

- body recovers slower

But the one I rarely see mentioned, is

- your tolerance for women decreases considerably

Teenagers and college chicks are particularly annoying, but even without the benefit of the red pill, every woman can get under your skin. Testosterone makes you much more willing to suffer a woman, just so you can sink your torpedo, but as you have less of it, her very nature starts to reveal itself. This is accelerated with game.

Lots of veterans switch between most women being insufferable and looking at them with bemusement. Make no mistake, neither view is benign.

Throw in confirmation bias, one's tendency to only notice evidence that supports your preconceived ideas, and you'll notice that men past a certain age, married or not have a very dim view of women.

Even white knights and feminists have to actively combat this.

To sum up, the wall for us

- young Women look at is differently
- Our bodies are different
- we change the way we think about women

In terms of bagging women though, the game goes on.
Young cat might hit her physical attractiveness switches, but a seasoned cat can go mind, body, and soul.

The unflappable nature that comes with age and experience is what you have to look forward to.