Post: #26

(06-17-2014 08:29 PM)chamele0n Wrote:  

(06-11-2014 10:32 AM)Flint Wrote:  But since this is a game forum, let's be honest: it's extremely hard to get laid there with a local girl.

Flint confirms my fears of that country. lol going to Tbilisi is one of the silliest ideas I have heard in my life. Caucasus nations are some of the most backward and the most conservative nations you will ever find in this part of the world. The guys' thirst you mentioned is a reflection of that. Do the Georgian women have a lot of hair on their backs btw, cause holy crap are their men hairy?

In general I think it might be interesting to visit once to see the unique mountain setting / architecture / drink local wine / mineral water, but for the women - no thanks. It's actually quite dangerous and supposedly in Georgia you need to make arrangements with a female's family before attempting to date her, otherwise you'll get your ass whipped or worse.

Maybe out in the sticks. I don't see this in Tbilisi.

Though this comment might be more applicable to Armenia/Azerbaijan, however I think it is more fear mongering than anything.

Post: #27

I had the chance to spend some time in Tbilisi recently.

The city is modern and rather pleasant. Few annoyances besides the 100+ degree weather. The food is ok (not as good as I was told) and pretty cheap though there are a number of places the charge what you'd pay in the US.

I relied solely on online game (CS and Tinder) - here is my report:

Pros:

- very few trolls or stunners here - the rather small gene pool created a lot of 6-7.5 girls that all look 'good'

- it's VERY easy to get dates, I have never seen so many girls come out after a short online communication on CS/ Tinder/ FB

- all the girls that came out passed the boner test - some girls were stunning - in fact the CS girls here were way above what you see on the streets

- girls are like Southern tilted Russian/ Ukrainian variant with long noses, strong bodies, big boobs, long black hair, rather pale skin (but this varies quite a bit)

- daygame wasn't really required but really there are few options to see girls during the day outside of the metro (crowded and hot) and McDonalds; cafes/ bars have barely any girls (or guys)

- lot's of fluent English speakers, some easily comparable to foreign born girls you meet in the US

- big foreigner bonus for Americans (or if you are Spanish/ Italian looking)

- dates are fun and the girls are very playful - almost like Israeli girls but not as feisty

Cons:

- girls have (too) little sexual experience (met a stunning looking 28 year old virgin on Tinder, no kidding)

- first date bangs are very rare

- first dates usually start well and than you will meet her 'friends', this seems a theme here so don't be overly annoyed, schedule the first date during the afternoon, smile and than take her out to a drink near your pad on the second date

- second/ third date is where the magic happens

- there isn't much going on besides the typical post-Soviet entertainment (parks, ice skating, movies etc)

- the city center is small, I kept running into the same girls accidentally in just 4 days, so when you are building a harem you need to carefully select late night spots

Tbilisi is a bit off-the-beaten path but feels pretty European. The girls are friendly and open to go out with you. Closing isn't easy and takes time but isn't crazy difficult. You can live for a fraction of what you pay in the US and build a harem slowly and carefully. The attitudes are more Russian than the Georgians would admit. Don't expect the submissive treatment you get in Asia though Georgia is at Asia's doorstep.

I had 7 dates and one bang and with another week in town I'm sure I could have added 3-4 more from 2nd/3rd dates. This is now my favorite place for gaming in the FSU.

Post: #28

Pardon my ignorance but what dating site is CS?

Post: #29

(08-02-2014 06:53 PM)saturo Wrote:  Pardon my ignorance but what dating site is CS?

Couchsurfing:
https://www.couchsurfing.com/dashboard

Is someone in Tbilisi this weekend? I have a connecting flight and will spend a night or 2 there.

Post: #30

My impression from very short visit are not good regarding the girls, average look is less than western europe, if you think poland are butter faces you have not been here, very limited girls have slavic characteristics and those looks better.
Also it seems super hard to bang, even phone or Facebook i couldn't close from about 30 approaches.
In clubs the average look is better but some are in groups and those that aren't approached none stop.
OP provided excellent data sheet which I used, I assume he have both looks and solid game if he bangs there.
I hang out mostly in old town area which is beautiful, food is also great as well decent weather for February.
If you same like me, prefer slavic girls and veteran of eastern europe then avoid georgia for girls.

Post: #31

I was under the impression that the whole region was extremely conservative and that it would be very difficult to obtain Armenian, Azeri/Azerbaijani, and Georgian flags because of this. This thread gives me a bit of hope; I might go there next year. Nevertheless, +1 from me for the excellent datasheet.

Oh yes, I'm so privileged you literally can't even.
Interested in joining the FFL? I tried (and failed).

Post: #32

(02-10-2015 06:16 PM)Porfirio Rubirosa Wrote:  I was under the impression that the whole region was extremely conservative and that it would be very difficult to obtain Armenian, Azeri/Azerbaijani, and Georgian flags because of this. This thread gives me a bit of hope; I might go there next year. Nevertheless, +1 from me for the excellent datasheet.

Georgian is the probably the easiest to obtain, but still more difficult than most places in Europe.

Post: #33

Flights for Tbilisi booked and payed.
Heading over in September. Anybody been in Georgia lately?
Any recommendations for places to go and stay in Tbilisi?
No big plans, just want to go and enjoy the places.
Read that Batumi should be good.
Is Armenia worth going to for some days while there? Havent really heard much positiv about Armenia, but I am really looking forward to Georgian hospitality.

thanks

Post: #34

Yes. Check out Yerevan.
There are some damn fine girls there.

how long is your trip?

Post: #35

I always wanted to check out Tbilisi after playing Splintercell on my Xbox back in 2004.

Post: #36

(05-04-2015 02:35 PM)Chaos Wrote:  Yes. Check out Yerevan.
There are some damn fine girls there.

how long is your trip?

I see I can get a visa a the border so I might check Yerevan out, I have 9 full days over there.
Any recommendations for places and areas to stay?

I'm flying with Georgian Airways, anybody have experiences with this airline?

Post: #37

Wow, it's nice to see a Tbilisi datasheet.

Hopefully I can offer a different perspective than what's been written so far.
I lived in Georgia for about three months but was out in a tiny village about an hour and half southwest of Tbilisi. I spent a couple weekends in Tbilisi, but most of my time was spent in the village and travelling around the country.

For me, getting the Georgian flag was incredibly difficult. It took a three month concerted effort because (oh the shame!) I had serious onenitis with a local Georgian girl. Here are some tidbits to entertain and also hopefully help you understand Georgians better.

- When i was talking with a local friend about how much resistance my target was putting up, he said, "Just take her. Grab her and take her away to a hotel. She can't say no if she has nowhere to go." I asked, "ummm, you mean like kidnapping?" He replied rather enthusiastically, "Yes! Like kidnapping!"

- After I finally got the bang, it was like floodgates bursting open. I'm guessing an entire lifetime of Orthodox influence telling her, "Don't touch or eat the chocolate cake" caused all kinds of things inside her explode leading to FUCK fests galore.

- A couple days before I left the country, she told me she would have Hymen reconstruction surgery (basically poof! a virgin again). I thought it was hilarious but also at the same time felt pretty sorry for her. A part of me wished she could get the fuck out so she wouldn't have to fake virgin marry a local Giorgi.

- EVERYONE knew about me and her and I would have random strangers ask me if I was going to marry her and settle down in the village.

Not quite the Linux am I? But there you go, a bit about my experience there.

On a side note, Georgia is a fantastic place to travel. It's beautiful, locals are curious and talkative, and if you get out of Tbilisi and chat with locals there is a high chance you will be pulled into a stranger's home for homemade wine and cheese pies if you show any kind of friendliness or interest in their culture.

Post: #38

(05-04-2015 02:18 PM)rdp Wrote:  Flights for Tbilisi booked and payed.
Heading over in September. Anybody been in Georgia lately?
Any recommendations for places to go and stay in Tbilisi?
No big plans, just want to go and enjoy the places.
Read that Batumi should be good.
Is Armenia worth going to for some days while there? Havent really heard much positiv about Armenia, but I am really looking forward to Georgian hospitality.

thanks

Check out Airbnb, you can get some pretty good deals and avoid the front desk cockblockers/the stigma of trying to get a girl back to your hotel.

EDIT: Yes, go to Armenia.

Post: #39

(05-18-2015 05:06 AM)Mendokusai Wrote:  Wow, it's nice to see a Tbilisi datasheet.

Hopefully I can offer a different perspective than what's been written so far.
I lived in Georgia for about three months but was out in a tiny village about an hour and half southwest of Tbilisi. I spent a couple weekends in Tbilisi, but most of my time was spent in the village and travelling around the country.

For me, getting the Georgian flag was incredibly difficult. It took a three month concerted effort because (oh the shame!) I had serious onenitis with a local Georgian girl. Here are some tidbits to entertain and also hopefully help you understand Georgians better.

- When i was talking with a local friend about how much resistance my target was putting up, he said, "Just take her. Grab her and take her away to a hotel. She can't say no if she has nowhere to go." I asked, "ummm, you mean like kidnapping?" He replied rather enthusiastically, "Yes! Like kidnapping!"

- After I finally got the bang, it was like floodgates bursting open. I'm guessing an entire lifetime of Orthodox influence telling her, "Don't touch or eat the chocolate cake" caused all kinds of things inside her explode leading to FUCK fests galore.

- A couple days before I left the country, she told me she would have Hymen reconstruction surgery (basically poof! a virgin again). I thought it was hilarious but also at the same time felt pretty sorry for her. A part of me wished she could get the fuck out so she wouldn't have to fake virgin marry a local Giorgi.

- EVERYONE knew about me and her and I would have random strangers ask me if I was going to marry her and settle down in the village.

Not quite the Linux am I? But there you go, a bit about my experience there.

On a side note, Georgia is a fantastic place to travel. It's beautiful, locals are curious and talkative, and if you get out of Tbilisi and chat with locals there is a high chance you will be pulled into a stranger's home for homemade wine and cheese pies if you show any kind of friendliness or interest in their culture.

How old was she and how good was her English?

Post: #40

(05-18-2015 09:46 AM)Cheetah Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 05:06 AM)Mendokusai Wrote:  Wow, it's nice to see a Tbilisi datasheet.

Hopefully I can offer a different perspective than what's been written so far.
I lived in Georgia for about three months but was out in a tiny village about an hour and half southwest of Tbilisi. I spent a couple weekends in Tbilisi, but most of my time was spent in the village and travelling around the country.

For me, getting the Georgian flag was incredibly difficult. It took a three month concerted effort because (oh the shame!) I had serious onenitis with a local Georgian girl. Here are some tidbits to entertain and also hopefully help you understand Georgians better.

- When i was talking with a local friend about how much resistance my target was putting up, he said, "Just take her. Grab her and take her away to a hotel. She can't say no if she has nowhere to go." I asked, "ummm, you mean like kidnapping?" He replied rather enthusiastically, "Yes! Like kidnapping!"

- After I finally got the bang, it was like floodgates bursting open. I'm guessing an entire lifetime of Orthodox influence telling her, "Don't touch or eat the chocolate cake" caused all kinds of things inside her explode leading to FUCK fests galore.

- A couple days before I left the country, she told me she would have Hymen reconstruction surgery (basically poof! a virgin again). I thought it was hilarious but also at the same time felt pretty sorry for her. A part of me wished she could get the fuck out so she wouldn't have to fake virgin marry a local Giorgi.

- EVERYONE knew about me and her and I would have random strangers ask me if I was going to marry her and settle down in the village.

Not quite the Linux am I? But there you go, a bit about my experience there.

On a side note, Georgia is a fantastic place to travel. It's beautiful, locals are curious and talkative, and if you get out of Tbilisi and chat with locals there is a high chance you will be pulled into a stranger's home for homemade wine and cheese pies if you show any kind of friendliness or interest in their culture.

How old was she and how good was her English?

When I first met her she was 19, then turned 20 right before I left. Her English was pretty terrible. Actually, there was basically zero english where I was. It was tough, but on the other hand I was forced to learn Georgian and I became more competent in Georgian in three months than I did learning Chinese for a year in Beijing.

There were a lot of girls out in the villages who are basically stuck. No work or prospects where they live and not wealthy enough to go to University in Tbilisi. Basically, they wait around to get married. To me, a lot of them were completely wasted talent, a lot of 8s and 9s with nothing to do and tight social circles and Orthodoxy stopping them from exploring. Then again, I was coming from many years living in east asia so I think my personal scale was skewed at the time.

Post: #41

@Mendokusai: Did you experience any nightlife in Tbilisi? I assume getting an STR would be a bit easier than in rural area's, also due to some foreigners (Russians, Turks, etc.) it may lead to slightly more liberal views on dating culture. What do you think?

Post: #42

Bumping this thread to hear if anyone has been lately and has anything to share.
I am heading over next month.

Post: #43

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Post: #44

I was in Tbilisi last month. I thought the English level was better than Ukraine, but worse than Armenia. Many visitors simply stay near Rustaveli Street and the Old Town area, but I found that Aghmashenebeli street on the other side of the river (take the metro) to be a much better shopping street, and good for daygame.

Post: #45

(10-11-2015 12:03 PM)The Ligurian Wrote:  

(03-08-2014 08:40 AM)Roosh Wrote:  What were the predominate languages you heard?

(03-08-2014 01:20 PM)Pacesetter20 Wrote:  Georgian, then English and Russian. Though, in my opinion, Russian will be more and more phased out as the years go by. In one restaurant, I over heard a group of Russians or Russian speakers (amongst themselves) speaking English to the wait staff (this was in Buddha Bar), so Russian will be a useful backup mostly to older people.

I heard more Russian spoken in Tbilisi today than I did Georgian even. Everyone uses it even Georgians amongst themselves a lot of the time which surprised me. When restaurant touts or taxi drivers etc. call out to you 100% of the time they do so in Russian. So far have spoken only Russian and had only positive reactions.

I heard zero English being spoken except by foreign tourists of which there are quite a lot in Tbilisi.

Hm...what about the younger population, i.e., girls under 25 (the forums target prey...lol)? A Georgian co-worker told me that many teens there bypass Russian and go for English now as a second language in primary school. Any comments on that?

Post: #46

(10-11-2015 10:16 PM)TripleG Wrote:  Hm...what about the younger population, i.e., girls under 25 (the forums target prey...lol)? A Georgian co-worker told me that many teens there bypass Russian and go for English now as a second language in primary school. Any comments on that?

I can confirm that. There's a clear linguistic shift as you start getting into your particular target group of girls born in the 90s: English takes over as lingua franca and some girls will pretend to not even speak Russian out of their blind devotion to the West. The vast majority will however understand Russian given the foothold of Russian TV/film in Georgia. In any event, you'll likely be in Tbilisi center, where most girls will be trilingual Georgian/English/Russian.

Some practical advice (which applies to the entire Caucuses region) is to adjust your target group to include late 20s or target overseas Georgians or non-ethnic/mixed Georgians if you wish to get laid in Georgia under 10 dates.

Tbilisi in particular is a melting pot and non-Georgians, as a matter of both formal and informal policy, are relegated to the margins. By consequence, non-Georgians (Armenians, Russians, Azeris, Ukrainians, Ossetians, Abkhazians, Iranians, etc) and any mixes thereof, as well as half-Georgians (common: Russian-Georgian), are much less likely to follow society's unwritten laws and find themselves in bed with you.

While I met all kinds of women in 3 weeks here, none of my 4 lays were fully ethnic Georgian. My Russian is fluent and I used it 90% of the time, but I would have had the same results speaking only English to the same girls.

As another practical note, you'll see that many girls in their 20s are not gainfully employed. Most Georgians are quite lax in their work habits and would much rather live off their aging parents than work for 200 USD/month in some cafe (though I probably would, too..). So while it's pretty easy to line up dates at any time of the day,
don't expect her to foot the bill.

Don't beat around the bush as you would with Latinas or Asian girls. I don't recommend any of that "hey, let me show you some pictures at my apartment" BS. These women require a strong, fearless man to the lead them. When it's time to seal the deal, grab her and bring her directly to your place without pretext. If she likes you, she will not say no.

Post: #47

Anyone ventured to Kutaisi willing to drop some intel?

Post: #48

(10-12-2015 04:31 AM)Papi Rico Wrote:  These women require a strong, fearless man to the lead them. When it's time to seal the deal, grab her and bring her directly to your place without pretext. If she likes you, she will not say no.

I understand, just walk with her around... and voilà right in the front of the hotel/flat
But what do you do if she then asks "Where are we going?"
-To my place (you say)
She: -For what?
what do you answer then? Or you just taker her by the hand and start walking?

Post: #49

(02-22-2016 07:56 AM)AkiKinnunen Wrote:  what do you answer then? Or you just taker her by the hand and start walking?

If there's alcohol involved, yes.
If no alcohol involved, say you have a bottle of Georgian wine you'd like to try with her.
If she doesn't drink wine, invite her to watch you drink wine.

Post: #50

Are there good day game spots in Tbilisi? Where there is a high volume of people on the street, including hot girls.

We are 5 guys who are gonna live for 1 month in Tbilisi in April and we want to do around 8 hours of daygame per week.