Post: #51

(01-03-2017 08:56 AM)peloozoid Wrote:  Are there good day game spots in Tbilisi? Where there is a high volume of people on the street, including hot girls.

We are 5 guys who are gonna live for 1 month in Tbilisi in April and we want to do around 8 hours of daygame per week.

For locals, the metros and restaurants near technical university and medical university.

I remember a university towards the end of Shota rustaveli. The museums werent very busy.

David Asghmashenebli avenue is busy in the daytime.



For tourists:

Old town and the fortress had some girls.

Also a visit to Mtzkheta had some cute girls.

Post: #52

Never been there but I've heard a lot of good things about Georgian wine and girls. It's usually a good combination when those 2 things combine.

Post: #53

Quote: The Funicular Complex (four separate venues for fine drinking and dining in the renovated Funicar three storey historic building) is definitely the best place in Tbilisi.

Lol in Tblisi right now, got burned by old advice from banned retard, Funicular complex is just an amusement park for families and a tourist trap restaurant with screaming babies and bad, inauthentic food (the Khachapuri is sauceless pizza).

The mindset needed to claim this is a pickup spot and highlight of the city is truly smacktardary.

Best options here by the way are Ruuska tourists but tend to be in mixed groups. Decent locals with mildly exotic features. Avoid overpriced tourist traps such as the tour companies, that tend to quote any cost in USD or eur instead of local.

Post: #54

(09-05-2017 09:34 AM)scrambled Wrote:  

Quote: The Funicular Complex (four separate venues for fine drinking and dining in the renovated Funicar three storey historic building) is definitely the best place in Tbilisi.

Lol in Tblisi right now, got burned by old advice from banned retard, Funicular complex is just an amusement park for families and a tourist trap restaurant with screaming babies and bad, inauthentic food (the Khachapuri is sauceless pizza).

The mindset needed to claim this is a pickup spot and highlight of the city is truly smacktardary.

Best options here by the way are Ruuska tourists but tend to be in mixed groups. Decent locals with mildly exotic features. Avoid overpriced tourist traps such as the tour companies, that tend to quote any cost in USD or eur instead of local.

Hehe - the funicular complex has changed a lot in just a few years. You are spot on now but a few years ago it was deserted and the amusement park was closed. It was a great date spot now it's just plain crazy.

I find it much harder for daygame now - what a difference few years make. There is a huge influx of Turkish tourists now - this does not make it easier.

Post: #55

Apparently the Turkish tourist have significantly increased in places like Odessa too, within the last year. Any reason for the swarming behavior?

Post: #56

(09-08-2017 10:37 AM)scrambled Wrote:  Apparently the Turkish tourist have significantly increased in places like Odessa too, within the last year. Any reason for the swarming behavior?

Turkish guys are trapped in a no-sex society (Turkey is bad mix of raging feminists and Muslims, of course exceptions apply) but Turkish guys also have some of the highest Testosterone levels in the world. Maybe it is all these kebaps? They seem to be horniest guys out there.

Pegasus Airlines, AtlasGlobal, Onur, SunExpress are now competing with Turkish Airlines. All these airlines keep ordering lots of single-aisle planes every year and the capacity goes into flights 3-5 hours from Turkish airports.

Since the Middle East is no fun for Turkish guys (or must of us) their best bet is Eastern Europe. Anything within a 5 hour radius sees a lot of Turkish short term tourists.

There is also a much bigger influx of Turkish and Saudi guys in Kuala Lumpur and (beginning to show in places like Jakarta).

Girls easily get scared off by the hyper-approach mentality some guys have. So just a few guys overdoing it can ruin a whole neighborhood for daygame. Someone mentioned that about Kreschatik.

Daygame is still very much possible in Tbilisi but you can't be in the cool areas anymore - you need to go away into the more Soviet looking areas no tourists ever goes. That's a big investment in pussy if you have no other reason to go there.

Post: #57

So, I will write a brief Tbilisi datasheet in June 2018. About me: Brit, jacked bald white guy, 5’7ish, not exactly a looker but I do the best with what I have.

Arrival

My trip didn’t start well. I arrived from a night-flight and in my fatigued state fucked up quite badly with taxis. I tried to use this app called taxify to book an uber style ride but I ended up getting into a normal airport taxi (there was no profile photo and the guy ‘confirmed’ he was ‘name of driver’ when I asked). 5 minutes later he pulls over and asks where I want to go. No English, just my shitty Russian. His fellow taxi driver friend came to my window barking at me in Russian I needed to pay 60 GEL (as opposed to 15 with taxify). I told him to GTFO. So they kicked me out and drove away leaving me in some deserted highway. I laughed about it, thanking myself for sorting out my SIM card IMMEDIATELY upon arrival after customs at the airport. I was sure I would experience the legendary friendliness and hospitality of the Georgian people soon enough.

Online

I can say my trip met expectations in some ways and surprised me in others.

Online (tinder, badoo etc.) was my go-to as always and I pipelined for a week before coming. This turned out to be a complete waste of time. Only got 1 match on tinder after swiping every girl in the city (got her number) and a further 2 from many more (30+) matches on tan-tan which is actually a Chinese app I believe. A lot of useless instagrams too.

Once I arrived in Tbilisi, all THREE of the girls flaked. 2 of them were no-shows even after confirming time and location. One eventually said she had to go to hospital because some brother drank too much. The one who actually did cancel the date 15 minutes before the meet (around time I arrived on location) agreed to try again. A couple of days later however she flaked as well, saying (I shit you not) she had to see a family member in hospital. Crazy.

So maybe it was my look that meant online was a complete waste of time for me I don’t know.

Daygame

But here is the thing, I was surprised pleasantly in another way.

For example, I got a LOT of eye contact, IOIs and really felt noticed by the local ladies here. I felt like how Roosh must have felt in Poland (where conversely I feel ZERO love and yet still can’t seem to kick the habit of spending so much time there). I stayed by liberty Square where a mall is within 5 min walk and there is a LOT of traffic. You also have Shota Rustaveli and David Asghmashenebli where I did most of my approaching.


I had low expectations and was kind of dreading day game based on the fact 1) I had just 6 days and I heard about the super conservative nature of the girls) and 2) Online seemed 100% useless.

But in between the many long day trips to some very interesting sites outside of Tbilisi, I did some pretty long and enjoyable day-game blitzes – on Day 1: 15, Day 3: 15; Day 5: 35. Yeah 35 is my personal record for number of approaches in a day ever. Because I didn’t want to scare the cat with Turkish style direct approaches, I decided to get girls to take photos of me whilst joking with them. I would then get physical with them (screening) by holding their hand for ages at which point I would know if they had a bf, were married or weren’t down. Total contact to approach rate (Instagram and viber) was about 1/3. Very few girls were rude or blew me out. Usually it was a Belarusian or Russian girl when that did happen. I actually got incredibly angry because this Ukrainian idiot girl dropped my iphone smashing the glass when taking my photo and scuttling away afterward. That killed my vibe for the rest of the day but at least the phone still worked (for now). I also had a very bad interaction with a Belarusian girl who was super rude. Georgian girls for the most part were very friendly and approachable a bit like how Polish girls are rumoured to be like. The girls who were not approachable were very obviously so and of course I avoided them. They seemed to have this curiosity about me that I had not encountered in Eastern Europe for so long. A lot of girls didn’t ask where I was from though and rejected me quickly although in a friendly manner.

I think the reasons I was able to number farm to intensively was because 1) I was doing touristy, exploring type activities (when I wasn’t on an actual tour), had an excited, ‘new place’ positive energy and vibe and so interacting with hot local ladies was just part of the adventure. Plus if they took good photos of me (VERY rare, trying to explain how to use the new iphone portrait feature was tough) this potentially could help my Instagram game. 2) The IOIs and constant looks from girls made me feel VERY good about myself making me feel more self-confident and attractive, something I believe I never felt before in any country (even South America).

Also, I drank quite a lot. After a lot of consideration I decided to relax my no alcohol rule (haven’t had a drink since end of 2016). I wanted to experience the legendary Georgian dry wine (which I can confirm was delicious indeed!). Also I decided to go to some bars (something I also stopped doing some time ago) for a change to see if the IOIs would continue into night life scenarios. I admit I drank way too much and spent a lot of the trip tipsy (though not wasted) expect on tour days where I was sober mostly. The drinks dramatically improved my vibe and positive feelings and it actually made the 35 approach blitz a pleasurable and enjoyable experience overall.

I also did stuff I normally wouldn’t do due to lacking vibe, approach anxiety and so on. For example hitting on girls working in shops and standing outside advertising restaurants. Also, hitting on girls who were with friends (though usually using the photo approach) or their mother. I noticed almost all Russian or Ukrainian girls were in groups making it hard to do anything productive.

What was quite hard is that there were no other gamers either from rvf or anywhere else in Tbilisi. I like having a network of fellow gamers to hang out with, not even to approach with but to have for moral support and companionship. But Tbilisi seems to be very unpopular for gamers (not that I am complaining too much!).

Dates

I didn’t do well with dates due to all my online prospects flaking often not ‘no shows’ or giving lame excuses. I think a super conservative cultural conditioning is behind this but I was disappointed after reading this ROK article about the alleged ‘liberalisation’ of girl’s attitudes.

Anyway, my first date was with an Azerbaijani girl whom I met at British pub in Sherdani (where all these bars and clubs are). She was a 5.5- 6 at best but had a very interesting personality and was very fun to spend time with. We explored Tbilisi together the entire next day. During the day I physically escalated slowly and subtly, not feeling particularly outcome dependant as I wasn’t that attracted to her. Held hands and touched her hair and was going to bounce her to my place after. However she had an opera to go to. So the next day I met her at the Liberty Mall, and walked her to my place. However, she was not down for coming in at all. Poor game on my part, miscalibrating how comfortable she was. So I did what I should have done and took her to a bar where we had a drink but I didn’t escalate due to 1) being a pussy 2) choosing wrong kind of venue with bad seating arrangements. After I tried again to bounce her back but this time got cockblocked by the rain (believe me when there is a downpour in Tbilisi you better have an umbrella!)

Didn’t see her again after that after she flaked on our 3rd meeting saying she was too tired after work.

On 2nd last day I knew my chances of getting the Georgian flag were very small (or even getting laid at all which I have failed to do since last November actually) but I was fiercely determined (and had plenty of Georgian wine in my system). Got 1 instant-date from my 35 approach blitz –a solid 7.5 with amazing beautiful red brown hair and brown eyes- took her to a café with a nice sofa. She was super conservative saying she wouldn’t kiss a strange man and so on. I ended the date about 40min after it looked like she was not going to relax – wouldn’t let me take a selfie of us together even.

However, as the day went on, I mass messaged all 25+ of my Instagram/viber contacts trying to arrange a meet. To my surprise the same Georgian girl I instant-dated met me while I was eating at this really good wine bar at Liberty Square. Had a really good date, physically escalated and played the questions game. Then I bounced us to my place walking hand in hand. She resisted coming in despite all the seeds I had laid in the date (this lion documentary for example) and she called my bluff when I said I had to recharge my phone (new iphone 8 – battery literally lasts all day). I kissed her though and she wrapped her arms around me and kissed me back – very passionately. I think that was the best kiss I ever had. We tentatively agreed to meet tomorrow (today).

I did a 11 hour tour to the mountains the next day and when I tried to arrange a meeting (not specifying where yet) with this girl. She responded with this super strict message saying she was NOT coming to my hotel room and that she didn’t want to disappoint me. I knew this was plausible deniability so I planned to meet her and bounce her back like before. But I didn’t have the energy. I was so fatigued from getting only 4 hours sleep last night and that epic mountain tour. So I threw in the towel and maybe if I visit again we shall see… Believe it or not, I was happy with the kiss. It was a moral victory after doing so bad at game these past few months.

So what else?

Social Circle Game

I unconsciously tried a form of ‘social circle’ game where I tried to befriend every guy I met who was friendly. The idea being to meet him and his buddies for drinks and get introduced to girls in his social circle. This is definitely what I would do if I came back here – if I did it would be for 4+weeks. Men in Georgia for the most part are open and friendly – the complete opposite of Polish guys in my experience. It was good to know it wasn’t just me. That culture does make a huge difference. One bartender was alone in this wine bar and I ended up talking to him for hours and joining him and his friends after for beers. I ended up meeting his female friends and IG closing one of them. Didn’t go anywhere due to the numbers game and all that, but imagine if I did this thrice a week, every week?

Night Life

I hate night clubs and night life in general. I did visit a few bars, often just sitting at the bar drinking and relaxing. I would talk to anyone who happened to be beside me. On my first night I met a couple of American golf champions, an Iranian couple and an Azeri girl (whom I dated). Good bars can be found in the Sherdani area. I remember a couple of good ones being the Drunken Owl and Radio. I didn’t go to any clubs so couldn’t recommend any to you.

Tourism

I would STRONGLY recommend not focusing entirely on gaming but rather enjoy Georgia’s amazing scenery and locations. It is the most beautiful country I have ever visited and I think I am quite well travelled. The mountains will blow you away.

You should consider:
- Uplistsikhe (amazing stone city)
- Mtskheta (old capital)
- Stepantsminda (amazing mountain sites). You can do para-gliding here also

Do your homework when planning tours - pay more for a high quality guide and you will enjoy it a lot more. Watch for crazy high prices (tourist traps).

Food

I LOVE those khinkali dumpling things that you drink the juices from before eating. The Khachapuri cheese bread pizza thing is good also. There are a lot of nice chicken soups. The pork barbeque was delicious every place I had it (usually Pasanauri). If you are keto or low carb you should be fine but most Georgian food you will need to avoid.

Wine. Had dry-red or semi-sweet most of the time – home wine whenever the option was there. I personally liked the Zanguara wine the most.

Final word

Awesome country, people and experiences. If it was easier to get laid I would have made plans to permanently move there. Girls like my look and I feel exotic which itself is great and there is so much to do, sea, eat, drink and I can definitely imagine returning here but absolutely for a much longer time. 4 weeks+ I can even imagine making a little harem of hot Georgian ladies if I were to stay even longer. But I put in a LOT of effort and didn't get laid (though I did throw in the towel with the last prospect and not give it a chance due to extreme fatigue) so for short visits to get Georgian flags? Forget it.

Post: #58

Hi Guys,

Im going to Tbilisi in couple of weeks, all what I have read means that Georgian girls are not for fun?!
Can someone please share a success story?!
By the way, are they gold-diggers?

Post: #59

Batuumimania will no doubt very along shortly and will give you the low down

Based on my experience, they can be fun, but we don't want girls to have fun with us and not fuck us at the end of the night

Few have ever had sex with a Georgian

No

Post: #60

(09-17-2018 01:52 PM)ManX Wrote:  Batuumimania will no doubt very along shortly and will give you the low down

Based on my experience, they can be fun, but we don't want girls to have fun with us and not fuck us at the end of the night

Few have ever had sex with a Georgian

No

So how it is fun without sex ?!

Post: #61

Already planning my 19' summer travel and my first place does have a direct flight to Tbilisi. No visa required for me + it will be easy in easy out with flights times etc. This will be pretty much a strictly chase tail trip. I will only be there for 7 days(Weds-Weds). I understand ONS is difficult, but willing to take the challenge. My two questions are:

1) Will most of the girls/people be out of town at the end of June beginning of July at the Sea etc?

2) What time does the average disco/bar close there?

Thanks a bunch.

Post: #62

(09-19-2018 07:13 PM)dsutmdo Wrote:  Already planning my 19' summer travel and my first place does have a direct flight to Tbilisi. No visa required for me + it will be easy in easy out with flights times etc. This will be pretty much a strictly chase tail trip. I will only be there for 7 days(Weds-Weds). I understand ONS is difficult, but willing to take the challenge. My two questions are:

1) Will most of the girls/people be out of town at the end of June beginning of July at the Sea etc?

2) What time does the average disco/bar close there?

Thanks a bunch.

Quote:No visa required for me + it will be easy in easy out with flights times etc.

That's the only easy in and out you'll be having

Why would you choose Georgia for a purely chasing tail trip for 7 days? Does not make sense to me

Post: #63

(09-19-2018 07:13 PM)dsutmdo Wrote:  Already planning my 19' summer travel and my first place does have a direct flight to Tbilisi. No visa required for me + it will be easy in easy out with flights times etc. This will be pretty much a strictly chase tail trip. I will only be there for 7 days(Weds-Weds). I understand ONS is difficult, but willing to take the challenge. My two questions are:

1) Will most of the girls/people be out of town at the end of June beginning of July at the Sea etc?

2) What time does the average disco/bar close there?

Thanks a bunch.

There's an ROK piece about this.

I went there and had really good luck. I closed like 8-10 chicks in maybe 3 months very passively. I found as a white dude I had a huge advantage over the local (bit darker) guys.

The expat scene is pretty big. They all hang out at a place called Dive Bar. Everyone there speaks English. It's a total underground shithole, but it's cool in that kind of way. Suggest going there.

Tinder is great. Nightlife is kind of shit unless you like insane underground techno clubs that aren't great for picking up unless you want to do drugs until 8AM. Otherwise it's cheeseball Russian clubs, maybe this is your style. I hated it. Day game is your friend.

English levels are really good among young people. Old people, not so much. Even at most public service buildings they speak very well.

Don't trust local taxis. They've tried to scam me many times. Use Yandex Taxi or Taxify.

It's a hipster city. Girls wear boots, skirts, "vintage" tops, etc. It's like Berlin style wise. I enjoyed that.

Looks, you have a 7 as your average. Most of my flings were 7's except for one 18 year old 8.

They are in love with America (not joking) and the millenial generation is very quickly adopting the casual sex culture. The young people think religion is bullshit. There's a pink haired, feminist politician. It's sad. The girls are ready to have fun, even though they say they're not. It's a land of two extremes as you have mostly traditional households creating these kids who say this shit. You can definitely bang though.Trust me on this.

Local guys are tough to be friends with because many of them don't speak English and are weary about foreigners fucking their girls (understandable). As a result, I became friends with a bunch of Iranian party boys while living there.

The girls are extremely repressed and aren't allowed to have boyfriends (no sex until marriage), so it is always going to be a secret. I'd imagine an LTR would be hard here as you'd be trying to wife up a girl who has been lying to her family all along about your existence. Sadly, some of my favorite girls I've been with are pure blooded Georgians.

I suggest going.

Post: #64

(09-20-2018 09:42 AM)ManX Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 07:13 PM)dsutmdo Wrote:  Already planning my 19' summer travel and my first place does have a direct flight to Tbilisi. No visa required for me + it will be easy in easy out with flights times etc. This will be pretty much a strictly chase tail trip. I will only be there for 7 days(Weds-Weds). I understand ONS is difficult, but willing to take the challenge. My two questions are:

1) Will most of the girls/people be out of town at the end of June beginning of July at the Sea etc?

2) What time does the average disco/bar close there?

Thanks a bunch.

Quote:No visa required for me + it will be easy in easy out with flights times etc.

That's the only easy in and out you'll be having

Why would you choose Georgia for a purely chasing tail trip for 7 days? Does not make sense to me

This is not true. When did you go last?

Post: #65

(06-11-2014 10:32 AM)Flint Wrote:  I'm currently in Tbilisi and face the same problems like in Azerbaijan and Armenia: Absolutely stunning and endearingly feminine women who are super hard to crack. These chicks don't flirt in public and rarely smile or respond to eye contact.

I did not experience that. Found my current girl friend on my very first day in Georgia, last November. Was back already three times. Due to my situation I do not try to get any other girls but I still like to be charming and believe me, I get from almost every girl a smile. They are very open, it is just amazing here!

(06-11-2014 10:32 AM)Flint Wrote:  It's a true uphill battle here against a village mentality where everyone knows everyone, conservative attitudes, heavy LMR, sausagefests at bars and clubs, low level of conversational English and terrible logistics in that most girls even in their mid-20s live with their parents and have cockblocking curfews.

Village mentality, yes, absolutely. This can be your chance if you want to find wife material! English is absolutely no issue here.