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Guitarman 路 2015-07-14 08:59:00 路 #726
Interesting " iknowexactly", I'm 50 this year, what do you mean by Wylie Coyote moment??
The roadrunner chasing or going through a wall leaving a Wylie Coyote shaped hole in your wake??

Wylie Coyote moment?? Please elaborate.
ColSpanker 路 2015-07-14 10:21:00 路 #727
I'm guessing it has to do with the coyote chasing after the roadrunner and then realizing he's been running on air while the roadrunner stares at him from the cliff.
fucksong 路 2015-07-14 15:10:00 路 #728
(07-13-2015 02:02 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  ^ Also not 40 yet. Come back in two years.

You're giving advice to guys over forty and you're 38 which is not 40.

Bro, I'm bald. That adds about 5-10 years for me. I know guys in their 40s who have lots of hair and they look younger than me. Anyways it's up to you if you want to listen or not. I'm not saying you gotta do everything I do, but try to look for patterns among the successful guys to come to your own conclusions.

Anyways, I gotta go bang my 18 year old gf later so peace out biotches...
sportbilly 路 2015-07-15 15:05:00 路 #729
I am 39 nearly 40 so hope I can post here?!

I approached a very beautiful tall slender Chinese girl in a shopping mall in the UK..I was very direct and got her number.

We had a nice 1st coffee date, and she has accepted a further invite for a meal \ dinner date.

At no point has she even enquired about my age, nor me hers, although I am guessing she is max 22 and probably younger still.

This one is very hot so not sure what to think and do not want to block myself. Does she realise my age and does not care or does she not realise my age, in which case, if she asks should I be honest or lie?
SlickyBoy 路 2015-07-15 15:07:00 路 #730
Chinese from China or second/third generation UK? Makes a difference. If she's actually from Asia she'll probably not even care. Get her before she's westernized and ruined.
iknowexactly 路 2015-07-15 15:15:00 路 #731
(07-14-2015 08:59 AM)Guitarman Wrote:  Interesting " iknowexactly", I'm 50 this year, what do you mean by Wylie Coyote moment??
The roadrunner chasing or going through a wall leaving a Wylie Coyote shaped hole in your wake??

Wylie Coyote moment?? Please elaborate.

There are scenes in The Road Runner where the coyote is confidently chasing the roadrunner and he runs out in to open space, realizes he has nothing to stand on, looks at the camera, then falls.

I'm talking about the helpless feeling when i was 52 and told a 22 year old that, and I saw how much different they acted compared to when I was 42 and told them that.

I realized I could make temporary improvements to my appearance and attractiveness to young women, but the overall trend was going to be downwards overall, and there is no platform from which to reverse time.

I agree with the guy above who described the slick evasive conversational maneuvers to change the subject. Once the number is in the air I see no salvaging with girls from wealthy countries.
sportbilly 路 2015-07-15 15:18:00 路 #732
Chinese from China....do Asian girls not care about age gaps? Tbh most of my age gap girls have been from EE so do not know the deal with Asian girls.
iknowexactly 路 2015-07-15 15:25:00 路 #733
(07-13-2015 02:47 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  Fantastic thread but the further I go back in the posts the more I think El Mech might actually be going senile already.

Well you know senility sort of depends on the starting point before the decline too. I look forward to abandoning chess for checkers when I retire to Florida and meet El Mech.
iknowexactly 路 2015-07-15 15:32:00 路 #734
(07-15-2015 03:18 PM)sportbilly Wrote:  Chinese from China....do Asian girls not care about age gaps? Tbh most of my age gap girls have been from EE so do not know the deal with Asian girls.

All girls including Filipinas care somewhat about age gaps at a biological level: A Younger guy has more chance of helping with kid to adulthood.
But in poor countries women can't demand ALL the shopping list:

tall, wealthy, within 3-4 years of her age, educated.....
She has to compromise somewhere unless she is miss 10 daughter of the president.

There is a unique situation in the Philippines, and perhaps to some extent in other poor countries, where young guys have such a horrible reputation as faithless philanderers that a significant proportion of sub-9 women want to avoid them.

When I confront girls about stuff--
"I can only have sex twice a week, I'm old" to test them, at least a third say "I don't WANT a young guy, they grimace, thinking of the times they've been hurt. You know, by you guys reading this lol.

It's at most partially an act of telling me what I want to hear.

Here's a Filipina girl I just love 18-21, 5'3", 90 lbs. Perfect skin but I don't want to out her.

I'm 59. Don't you love America?
amusedmastery 路 2015-07-15 15:34:00 路 #735
(07-13-2015 11:31 AM)Menace Wrote:  
(07-10-2015 06:33 PM)Pendejo41 Wrote:  Boys, hit the gym, take care of yourselves, stop worrying about the women, let them worry about themselves, you worry about you!! Women my age are getting botox and plastic surgery, men my age are hooking up with women 10-15 years younger so who has it better???? (Remember that when a woman tries to shame you for being single at 40).

Tell her you only hook up with girls in their late 20s and early 30s, see how she likes it. Anyway boys, my life is awesome, I go camping, bowling, fishing and I am learning a new language. Remember be happy that you are a man and don't worry about your age, have fun brothers. I will be in Rio in exactly 2 months from today. My life is occupied learning Brazil's beautiful language.

Peace my brothers.

Very accurate. I can't speak for others, but I pursue new girls with moderate effort, it is not all encompassing. Somehow new girls fall into place without a lot of effort now. I'm almost beyond the +1 thing as well. A new girl is great, but just because of a potential new experience...accumulating notches just for the sake of it has lost its appeal to me (and I have far far less than many here).

My life is better than it's ever been. Of course most of the guys I speak to (on-line or in person) are about the life...but most "normals" could not even comprehend that all of this is possible.

I think when you get older, you just become (or should become), more zen, more centered, grounded, whatever. Also, mindset and frame are crucially important to project positive and confident energy. Women pick up on all of this and find it irresistible.

Well said....This is a prime example of taking care of oneself and having excellent frame. When you hit the big 40, chasing pussy becomes less of a numbers game (I stopped counting and running notches years ago and got more picky) and more of an opportunity to have an intriguing sexual experience. I may try a new angle on my game with a sexy barista or shoot for a weird sexual experience with a more elegant, sultry type in a high end bar. You still have to approach, but you need more of an "I'm the prize and I won't chase you" mentality. Call it zen, next level, or whatever......You've got wisdom at this point and that's huge. King Solomon passed up all the riches in the world for it when God offered him the choice.
TornadoByProxy 路 2015-07-15 18:58:00 路 #736
Sportbilly,
She is aware of the age gap but either giving an older man a chance, or looking to tap an older man's resources. I doubt she will bring the gap up, but if she does, treat it like any other shit test. Never give an honest, straightforward answer. Agree and amplify, or use whatever tactic you'd use if she asked how much money you make. Always play off her feelings/mood at that moment.
Tornado
Onto 路 2015-07-15 19:19:00 路 #737
IKE, do you still really want to come back here? I remember you mentioning it before.

After 2 months in the Phils I was more than ready to come back, but after more than 8 months back in the States I'm even more than ready to get the hell out of here and go back to Asia. I'm experiencing a mini-crisis right now. My boss is an asshole, and I've got 4 months left on my lease here in NY. I've got 8 more months until I can get my year end bonus. The difference between leaving now vs March 2016 is financially substantial. I know I should just kiss ass and suck it up for another 8 months but it's so hard.
iknowexactly 路 2015-07-16 16:05:00 路 #738
(07-15-2015 07:19 PM)Onto Wrote:  IKE, do you still really want to come back here? I remember you mentioning it before.

After 2 months in the Phils I was more than ready to come back, but after more than 8 months back in the States I'm even more than ready to get the hell out of here and go back to Asia. I'm experiencing a mini-crisis right now. My boss is an asshole, and I've got 4 months left on my lease here in NY. I've got 8 more months until I can get my year end bonus. The difference between leaving now vs March 2016 is financially substantial. I know I should just kiss ass and suck it up for another 8 months but it's so hard.

It's good question, I've been vacillating.

As for nuts and bolts of punching a clock, I may have some helpful tips.

I've worked many years in prisons where many were lifers and I still remember meeting a very buoyant prisoner one day-- somehow we got on the subject of his sentence and he was practically gleeful when he described it as only fourteen years more. The psychological difference between that and life is like night and day.

Not to be obtuse, but the person who is asked the questions keeps changing, so there's no single answer.

By that I mean it's taken me 8 months to BEGIN to comprehend how Filipinos perceive time subjectively, and how they perceive family, honesty, children, money, and what makes life worth living.

The aggregate means it is extremely complex to answer "Do I want to be in USA now."

Let's take the fact that the 8.5 girl above who I've been sleeping with had a pretty high chance of ditching me if I got back to USA with her.

But if she lasts 3 years and I get some of my art projects (micro-budget indy movies) done, that's OK with me. I don't have house/assets to steal.

I can't really do the subtle spacy dramas I want to do outside of a major US city. There just aren't enough people with enough literary sophistication, who know about 1960s Italian and French cinema, to collaborate with me. My lifetime goals depend on living for a time in pussy deserts.

There's hundreds of thousands of Filipinas like her-- nice skin, slim, not too bright but basically pleasant.
You will run out of sperm before the Philippines runs out of girls like that. You can always go back and get another one.

I m learning not to be so intense so as to be perceived as unpleasantly angry here, so I am going to more reliably be able to get girls. You MUST keep any anger masked here, it is absolutely tabu to be honest about it.

I also have a small income ( only a little over 1K) that means I can pay rent and barely subsist on very simple food in non-expensive cities, so I'm not trapped in a job the same way you are-- I really feel for you, associating with people you don't like who have authority over you is WORSE than sexual deprivation as far as I'm concerned.
Onto 路 2015-07-17 09:52:00 路 #739
Thanks IKE, you're right. When you compare 8 months to 14 years it's hardly much time at all. I will keep reminding myself of this.
CleanSlate 路 2015-07-17 10:09:00 路 #740
(07-16-2015 04:05 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  You will run out of sperm before the Philippines runs out of girls like that. You can always go back and get another one.

Fucking poetic.

Clap

Love that quote. If that isn't the epitome of Abundance Mentality, I don't know what it is.
Dantes 路 2015-07-18 05:16:00 路 #741
When girls ask my age, I often reply with, "guess". My own perception is that I look about 3-5 years younger, no more. My current trip in Russia, girls have guessed anywhere from 28-37, although most often they say 35. I have not been able to identify why I look younger on certain days whether it be attire or energy. One variable I am sure of is rest. Late nights are the killer.

I have been telling girls I am 35 or 36 and this seems to be a sweet spot for girls in their 20s.
Adrenaline 路 2015-07-18 07:59:00 路 #742
Bit of an odd question, but does anyone here avoid gaming in bright daylight situations because light outdoors tends to show your age more? For example, staying away from things such as the park, sporting games, nature activities etc during the day. Seems like night game and to a lesser extent day game indoors would be far more productive for older men.
iknowexactly 路 2015-07-18 09:00:00 路 #743
(07-17-2015 09:52 AM)Onto Wrote:  Thanks IKE, you're right. When you compare 8 months to 14 years it's hardly much time at all. I will keep reminding myself of this.

I actually had a larger explanation lost in edit.

When I was in a State office with about 2.5 years to make my pension
(over $1000 per month with inflation adjustments starting at 55, so it could be 35 years of collecting... 35x12,000+= ~400K+ for completing the last two years....) Literally the day I worked when I made my pension I would be in effect paid probably about 250K.

Meaning it was financially IDIOTIC to not last those 2.5 years.

I found a site where you could print a calendar-on-a-page with any amount of days you wanted.

So I printed out the 2.5 years on two pages and taped them together, I had a red pen I used only to cross out little boxes each representing a day.

Sometimes when I forgot I would pull the sheets out of the my desk and mark off 10-12 days at once! I could see the marked off area objectively growing and it made it palpable that someday I was getting OUT.

NOw here in the Philippines I see people making one dollar an hour and really feel spoiled, is it extremely hard to change your life here. Many people go overseas like to middle east and get treated like dogs to make $1000 per month in stead of $250.

I talked to a driver in Cebu who had worked in the middle east and he said he basically just never had days off, 90 hours a week.... just feeling dead all the time.

A huge amount of work has been done to make America a place you can save up a small amount of money if you don't have too many kids.
ColSpanker 路 2015-07-18 09:42:00 路 #744
What's the STD situation like in the PI? It's the one negative I can think about going over there when I get older. I suppose if you're careful and avoid the wrong kind of women, you'd be Okay, but still....
iknowexactly 路 2015-07-18 09:45:00 路 #745
(07-18-2015 09:42 AM)ColSpanker Wrote:  What's the STD situation like in the PI? It's the one negative I can think about going over there when I get older. I suppose if you're careful and avoid the wrong kind of women, you'd be Okay, but still....

It's bad, don't ask me how I know. None of the women have enough money to get treated and there's ciproflaxin resistant gonorreah.

Women are often asymptomatic but you can catch it from them.

Women do not think scientifically or in terms of cause-and-effect, they are much more fatalistic.
They have barely heard of STDs, many do not even know what a bacterium is. If they DO have some facts, they heavily use denial to simply not think about it.

The safest ticket here is find one you like, both get tested, and stick with her.

I'm not into strings of "notches" anyway.
Beyond Borders 路 2015-07-18 10:00:00 路 #746
(07-15-2015 03:32 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  When I confront girls about stuff--
"I can only have sex twice a week, I'm old" to test them, at least a third say "I don't WANT a young guy, they grimace, thinking of the times they've been hurt. You know, by you guys reading this lol.

Do us a favor and pass along our apologies, wouldya?
Onto 路 2015-07-18 11:26:00 路 #747
(07-18-2015 05:16 AM)Dantes Wrote:  When girls ask my age, I often reply with, "guess". My own perception is that I look about 3-5 years younger, no more. My current trip in Russia, girls have guessed anywhere from 28-37, although most often they say 35. I have not been able to identify why I look younger on certain days whether it be attire or energy. One variable I am sure of is rest. Late nights are the killer.

I have been telling girls I am 35 or 36 and this seems to be a sweet spot for girls in their 20s.

I was out the other night with Vaun and we opened a set. The girl (33) asks how old I am and I used the "guess". She said, 30, and I'm 44!

It was then I knew she must be completely plastered. Unfortunately I was probably more, and really tired. After a failed Hail Mary pass to take her home, I left Vaun to clean up and sure enough he did!
Dusty 路 2015-07-18 11:47:00 路 #748
Young girls have no concept of age except they know you are not in their age group (and some will still be attracted to you). But to a 19 year old, 30 might as well be 40.

I remember when I was 19, I thought 30 was old. Laugh
Vaun 路 2015-07-18 11:53:00 路 #749
(07-18-2015 11:26 AM)Onto Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 05:16 AM)Dantes Wrote:  When girls ask my age, I often reply with, "guess". My own perception is that I look about 3-5 years younger, no more. My current trip in Russia, girls have guessed anywhere from 28-37, although most often they say 35. I have not been able to identify why I look younger on certain days whether it be attire or energy. One variable I am sure of is rest. Late nights are the killer.

I have been telling girls I am 35 or 36 and this seems to be a sweet spot for girls in their 20s.

I was out the other night with Vaun and we opened a set. The girl (33) asks how old I am and I used the "guess". She said, 30, and I'm 44!

It was then I knew she must be completely plastered. Unfortunately I was probably more, and really tired. After a failed Hail Mary pass to take her home, I left Vaun to clean up and sure enough he did!

Dude we have to go out again before that 8 months is up.
rudebwoy 路 2015-07-18 11:57:00 路 #750
(07-18-2015 09:00 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  
(07-17-2015 09:52 AM)Onto Wrote:  Thanks IKE, you're right. When you compare 8 months to 14 years it's hardly much time at all. I will keep reminding myself of this.

I actually had a larger explanation lost in edit.

When I was in a State office with about 2.5 years to make my pension
(over $1000 per month with inflation adjustments starting at 55, so it could be 35 years of collecting... 35x12,000+= ~400K+ for completing the last two years....) Literally the day I worked when I made my pension I would be in effect paid probably about 250K.

Meaning it was financially IDIOTIC to not last those 2.5 years.

I found a site where you could print a calendar-on-a-page with any amount of days you wanted.

So I printed out the 2.5 years on two pages and taped them together, I had a red pen I used only to cross out little boxes each representing a day.

Sometimes when I forgot I would pull the sheets out of the my desk and mark off 10-12 days at once! I could see the marked off area objectively growing and it made it palpable that someday I was getting OUT.

NOw here in the Philippines I see people making one dollar an hour and really feel spoiled, is it extremely hard to change your life here. Many people go overseas like to middle east and get treated like dogs to make $1000 per month in stead of $250.

I talked to a driver in Cebu who had worked in the middle east and he said he basically just never had days off, 90 hours a week.... just feeling dead all the time.

A huge amount of work has been done to make America a place you can save up a small amount of money if you don't have too many kids.

Or they make it to Canada and become nurses. In my city there are many Filipino nurses and they make six figures a year easily.

To become a nurse is not easy, so they must have a fair amount of intellect to pass those exams.
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