Post: #1251

Just got my test back today. 5.59ng/ml so something like 668.
At 27 years old, sports every day, that's fucking low.

How did this happen? I eat well, sleep 8-9 hours everyday and lift and do combat sports. Is it the water we drink?

I dont even know where to begin. France is the soy capital and anything remotely about raising your test level will have your cucked doctor prescribed you to mental wards instead.
Should I try telling them I'm having sexual dysfunction, extreme fatigue and other low T symptomps to get around this?

Post: #1252

That’s not really low, its about the same as I had when I went to a male health clinic when I was 33, the doctor wouldn’t prescribe me TRT. So I went the underground route and bought legitimate pharmaceutical testosterone in Colombia then continued with underground testosterone when back home in Canada. After three years of that, I crashed my testosterone levels and went back to a male health clinic and was prescribed TRT.

TLDR: I would wait a few more years before going the TRT route, especially since it will be a pain in the ass to get in France.

Post: #1253

(01-10-2019 05:09 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Just got my test back today. 5.59ng/ml so something like 668.
At 27 years old, sports every day, that's fucking low.

How did this happen? I eat well, sleep 8-9 hours everyday and lift and do combat sports. Is it the water we drink?

I dont even know where to begin. France is the soy capital and anything remotely about raising your test level will have your cucked doctor prescribed you to mental wards instead.
Should I try telling them I'm having sexual dysfunction, extreme fatigue and other low T symptomps to get around this?

Thats not low at all... I wouldn't get on TRT at 27 with levels up near 700

Check again when your in your early 30's

Post: #1254

(01-10-2019 05:09 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Just got my test back today. 5.59ng/ml so something like 668.

Can you explain this? What does this conversion mean? Why 668?

Post: #1255

Have done some searches and have gone back and read quite a bit in this thread but was hoping you guys who have more experience could give me some feedback on my numbers I just got tested for the first time at an indy lab in bkk.

If I am interpreting this correctly everything looks ok, but I am a total noob when it comes to this.

Quick background: Coming up very fast on mid 40s, eat really good and very active in gym and physical work, maybe 10 -15 lbs over weight I would like to be at but still within BMI.

When I took this test I had just come off 2 weeks of eating like shit, drinking and partying and general shit sleep conditions, but had been sober about 5 or 6 days, and had fasted about 36 hours before test...also I took it around 9 a.m.

Free Testosterone SERUM 11.1

# Testosterone CMIA 6.504

Sex Hormone binding globulin ECLIA 45.5

Thanks for any feedback, also if anyone is interested in this lab in BKK I can post up info, they have a good rep, great prices but results only, no interpretation or consultation.

Post: #1256

(01-10-2019 11:17 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  Thats not low at all... I wouldn't get on TRT at 27 with levels up near 700

Check again when your in your early 30's

Ok scratch that, fuck my stupid ass, thanks Montrose for the alert.

I thought it was just a matter of converting back to a scale of 1000 but apparently you have to use a converter.

Here's a quick to use site: https://www.nebido.com/en/hcp/research/t...n-tool.php


This is what's written on my results:

19.4 nmol/l
5.59ng/ml

Using the converter:

559 ng/dl => I assume this is the 3 digits standard people use here?

So 559 is very lackluster, not anywhere near 700 at all.

I'll do the homework and read up the 2 main threads here, but what do you guys think given my results?

Montrose, please send a PM if you know of a way I could get a script for this.

I'm not doing this for "muh testoterone" but I've mentioned in several threads that I always feel sleepy, and if I'm not in the gym I'm not really motivated to go out. At 27 people shouldn't have to drag me to parties. And these last 2 years I feel a big malaise/general antipathy and lack of excitement setting in.

Really suspicious that low T is the cause of this.

Post: #1257

I really want to do an 8-12 week Test cycle.

Would it be possible to find a doctor perhaps online to guide me with this? Monitor my numbers, etc.

I don’t care about the cost. I just want pro advice.

I just don’t want to commit full-on to TRT for life at 31...

Any help appreciated.

Post: #1258

(01-10-2019 04:44 PM)jbkunt2 Wrote:  I really want to do an 8-12 week Test cycle.

Would it be possible to find a doctor perhaps online to guide me with this? Monitor my numbers, etc.

I don’t care about the cost. I just want pro advice.

I just don’t want to commit full-on to TRT for life at 31...

Any help appreciated.

Have you gotten your blood work done before?

If so, get your blood work done prior to taking test - see where you're at.

I would definitely say do at least a 3 month Test cycle first to see how your body adapts/reacts to the test. Make sure you're working out hard and eating good.

You can get bloodwork done again in the middle of Month 2 to see where you're at.

If you're in the states you can buy lab tests orders online and go to said lab to get your blood pulled.

Post: #1259

(01-10-2019 12:04 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(01-10-2019 11:17 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  Thats not low at all... I wouldn't get on TRT at 27 with levels up near 700

Check again when your in your early 30's

Ok scratch that, fuck my stupid ass, thanks Montrose for the alert.

I thought it was just a matter of converting back to a scale of 1000 but apparently you have to use a converter.

Here's a quick to use site: https://www.nebido.com/en/hcp/research/t...n-tool.php


This is what's written on my results:

19.4 nmol/l
5.59ng/ml

Using the converter:

559 ng/dl => I assume this is the 3 digits standard people use here?

So 559 is very lackluster, not anywhere near 700 at all.

I'll do the homework and read up the 2 main threads here, but what do you guys think given my results?

Montrose, please send a PM if you know of a way I could get a script for this.

I'm not doing this for "muh testoterone" but I've mentioned in several threads that I always feel sleepy, and if I'm not in the gym I'm not really motivated to go out. At 27 people shouldn't have to drag me to parties. And these last 2 years I feel a big malaise/general antipathy and lack of excitement setting in.

Really suspicious that low T is the cause of this.

Sounds to me like your growing up

Honestly unless my levels were super low I wouldn't even be considering TRT in my 20's.

Post: #1260

Hey man,

Thanks for the reply.

I’ve had two tests before. One came back at 314 but it’s was in the afternoons me I had eaten etc. The second was first thing in the morning and came in at 570.

I definitely would like to try test. I just don’t ant to sign all-in for life straight away...

Post: #1261

(01-10-2019 05:09 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Just got my test back today. 5.59ng/ml so something like 668.
At 27 years old, sports every day, that's fucking low.

How did this happen? I eat well, sleep 8-9 hours everyday and lift and do combat sports. Is it the water we drink?

I dont even know where to begin. France is the soy capital and anything remotely about raising your test level will have your cucked doctor prescribed you to mental wards instead.
Should I try telling them I'm having sexual dysfunction, extreme fatigue and other low T symptomps to get around this?

Same in Belgium.
Both doctors I've seen told me as long you're not growing man-boobs, we are NOT going to prescribe you TRT

Post: #1262

Frankly, I would take the matter into my own hands and go the UG way. Getting pharma-quality test in EU is pretty much mission impossible without prescription unless you can land some from countries where its legal. Thing is nobody bothers to take the risk and import it when the price is so low and synthesis process that cheap and easy.

Concentration levels for well-reputed unders should not vary by much, if any -- it's simply too cheap to try and scam in this regard. Although, many unders will have lower concentration, so you have to do some research on that. Best bet are bodybuildings forum -- even though most members may seem to be a bit retarded, as far as roids go, you can trust them. They pin this shit all the time, so they know what they are talking about for the most part.

Purity is the only concern for me, but with proper research I'm sure you can find underground labs that actually care about branding and take their business seriously. I would definitely avoid any products from well-known pharma companies -- those made for people thinking they can get lab-quality so easily.

And yeah, test level of ~700 is OK. I had a bit more as an working out 4 times a week guy in his early 20s.

Post: #1263

Has anyone here ever run an 8-12 week testosterone cycle?