What's up guys; long time lurker of this thread, new member to RVF, first post ever. First of all I want to say y'all inspire me, keep doing what you're doing and I'm glad to have found this community.
I went on my first bangcation this past summer to Thailand, and though it's long been established that SEA is pretty much easy mode, I figure updated intel is never a bad thing.
Thailand Trip Report
Background: Southern California Korean American, 5'11.5", 195 lbs at the time, muscular/B U L K Y build, slightly above average in looks but not enough to rely on to get pussy.
Length:24 days (17 days in Bangkok, 3 days in Phuket, 4 days in Cambodia as a side trip)
Logistics/Travel Style: AirBnB in Bangkok, Villa in Phuket, Guesthouse in Cambodia. Was alone for all but 6 days when my friends joined and we hung out in Bangkok/Phuket.
There's ample data on pick up hotspots in Bangkok, so instead of doing a breakdown of individual bars/clubs to go to, I'm just gonna talk about general trends and tips for Asian bros looking to smash without paying in Thailand. If you want more specifics feel free to PM me.
1.
Only go to Western style clubs as a last resort.
Generally speaking, the more a club is catered toward Westerners, the more it's going to be infested with prostitutes. Insanity is one such place; the layout and music are familiar to what you're used to in the west, but there are pros all over the place and though amusing at first, after you get grabbed by the arm a dozen times and asked "Where U from hansummm," you'll get pretty tired of it. Not surprisingly, these places are most favored by white guys from North America/Europe and Australia because there are lots of other foreigners and they feel comfortable there. You should only go to these places when you've struck out at other venues and they've already closed down (2 AM is closing time for all the regular clubs). Still, I was 2 for 2 at Insanity in smashing non-working girls. These kinds of places are good to go by yourself because you can easily weave in and out of the crowd and it's less awkward to be there by yourself as opposed to the table-oriented Thai-style clubs.
2.
The highest quality girls go to exclusively Thai clubs.
This is the main advantage of being an Asian guy in Thailand: whereas the white guys are pretty much limited to aforementioned whore-infested, low quality talent pools, as an Asian guy you'll be welcome and desired at places where real, local and HOT Thais go to party. Be prepared for a completely different style of clubbing, however, as Thai clubs are essentially just rows and rows of tables, sitting or standing, where groups of friends just hang out with each other (the one exception is Onyx, which is probably the hottest club in BKK right now but is very Vegas style with loudass EDM music; not a good place for pickup besides the smoking patio and the street right outside along RCA). For this reason I don't recommend going to these venues unless you are with a group of cool Asian gamers or locals. Granted, these girls are upper class, socially connected and highly educated, and conversely much harder to smash. But after plowing through numerous low quality sluts, I was more than happy to just meet cool, fun, interesting and English-speaking people at these "Thai" spots. During my whole trip, I only met one girl that I was genuinely interested in besides just smashing that I still keep in touch with, and I met her at one of these upper tier venues called BEAM.
Note: Love him or hate him, David Bond is a subject matter expert when it comes to smashing hoes in Thailand, and
this article very accurately describes the reality of how different White and Westernized Asian guys' experiences are in Asia, specifically in Bangkok.
3.
"Korean God Factor" is real.
Yes, it's awesome, and it helps you get laid. But it's been talked about ad naseum so let me just share two interesting thoughts on this:
First, Korean guys (from Korea) are catching up on this. While it was awesome and inspiring to see Korean bros from the homeland with sweet style and jacked physiques pull hotass Thai bitches (namely Onyx and Scratchdog), my prediction is that it won't be long before Korean men have a similar reputation as white men: horny sex tourists with a sense of entitlement that have no respect for the culture and just come to smash. I don't think it'll ever get quite as bad as the reputation that white guys have because Koreans are generally more respectful and polite, but I've noticed that they are becoming more Westernized by becoming more aggressive, muscular, and direct, which is AWESOME, but is probably gonna make things harder in the future for other Koreans. So if you're looking to benefit from the KGF, go sooner rather than later.
Second, while lots of Thais idolize Korean pop culture, from my observation being a high value Asian guy other than Korean is just as effective. This includes Westernized Asians as well as Asians from affluent countries like Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, Taiwan, etc. White guys strut like they are the hottest commodity in Thailand, but that couldn't be further from the truth. From talking to lots of locals and expats living there, the following is a rough order of preference for guys in the eyes of Thai girls:
1. Wealthy Thais (AKA upper class light-skinned Thai-Chinese)
2. Asians from "rich" countries AKA light skinded (Japan, Singapore, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, even Vietnam to a certain extent, etc.) or Asians from the West
3. Wealthy White guys
3. Average Thai guys
4. Average White guys
-The following are only considered options by poor/lower class Thais-
5. Lower class/older/uglier/fatter White guys AKA sexpats
6. Above average Asians from poorer countries AKA Cambodia, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, etc.
7. Poor Thais.
The bottom line is don't be discouraged if you're not Korean. Because honestly my 5'6" fairly dark-skinned Filipino friend from California probably got the most attention from girls out of our whole group because he just has a huge, charismatic personality and is pretty good looking. His being Filipino did not hurt him in any way.
Quick note for my Chinese brothers: nothing against the Middle Kingdom, but if you're looking to get laid you are going to want to strategically downplay your affiliation with mainland China. You can just tell them you're from another country like Taiwan or Singapore, or strongly emphasize your Western identity over your Chinese one, because despite the fact that Thailand has the largest population of ethnic Chinese outside of China (also the largest success story of Chinese assimilating and integrating into another culture as the vast majority of them self-identify as culturally Thai), the huge groups of tourists that come through have led to local Thais generally having a disdain for Chinese people. Just keep that in mind.
4.
If you are Asian and want to get laid as easily as possible, go to Scratchdog.
One night myself and two buddies were just out drinking and catching up, and before we knew it it was already 3 AM. We got to the club and had 45 minutes before closing time. I looked at my friends and said "Let's get to work." We split up, started gaming individually, and saw each other back at our AirBnB; all three of us brought home a girl that night. It's just that kind of place.
5.
Do NOT go to Phuket, unless you want to p4p.
It's disgusting, and after two days we were all exhausted from all the prostitutes, pushy street marketers and horny, rudeass Arab sex tourists.
Would I go back to Thailand? No, I came to the conclusion that I don't really find Thai girls that attractive. Am I glad I went? Absolutely. Aside from getting tons of pussy (9 total lays between Thailand and Cambodia...could have gotten more but I was pretty drained from going out every night lol), just going to Asia as an Asian American guy was hugely eye-opening in a lot of ways that are too complex to talk about in detail here. If I were to go back, here's
What I Would Do Differently Next Time:
1.
Focus on quality, not quantity.
I went to Thailand with the goal of inserting my penis into as much vajayjay as humanly possible. While I definitely racked up my notch count, unfortunately this meant I was selling myself short by smashing way below my weight class and ended up doing everything from a 4 (in my eyes, probably a 6 in a white guy's eyes) to a few HB7s but nothing above that. I didn't connect with anyone I found truly attractive until the very end of my trip when I hung out with a girl I would consider an 8.5 or a 9 (smart, attractive, upper class, kind, not a gold digger, the whole package), and when I did I wished I spent more time meeting girls like her instead of nasty ass low quality sluts. Which leads to my next point:
2.
More daygame.
I absolutely suck at daygame, and though I did get some practice (probably less than ten approaches...) I think I would have met a lot more quality chicks and made genuine connections if I had grabbed my balls and done more daytime approaches.
3.
Spend more time in Cambodia.
I get that Cambodia is not on most people's radars for game, and understandably so, as the girls are definitely less attractive than other Asian countries, but I checked it out because my travel PUA idols, Neil Skywalker and Naughty Nomad,
raved about how awesome it was for them. I've heard Phnom Penh (the capital, which is where I went) has become a lot more tame and less exciting, not to mention the big lake along which the craziest nightlife used to be has since been filled in to make space for more commercial development, but boy, those four days in Cambodia were the most fun I had on my entire trip to SEA. If you want more details on it let me know and I'll post a separate Cambodia report, but basically a lot of people say it's what BKK used to be in the past: a third world city where
anything goes and nothing is impossible.
Well that's it for now, boys. Once again if you want more detailed recommendations I'll be more than happy to answer your PMs.
Good luck and game on!