Post: #551

Jack Of All Trades Wrote:I was surprised to find white euro girls on asian dating apps

Which dating apps are these? I don't know of any legit asian dating apps that are popular in europe.

Post: #552

My hunch too is that there are some attractive EE girls who are into K-Pop or anime, etc. Not enough to make it your bread and butter, but they exist.

A Japanese guy I helped with newbie day game here in Gdansk managed to get such a girl on a date.

Another girl I talked to on a scout trip to Poznan was learning Chinese at her university.

Post: #553

(01-09-2017 04:25 AM)Cool Runnings Wrote:  

Jack Of All Trades Wrote:I was surprised to find white euro girls on asian dating apps

Which dating apps are these? I don't know of any legit asian dating apps that are popular in europe.

TanTan has a few bites, all the white girls have stuff written in chinese, korean, or japanese.

Post: #554

Question for my fellow Asian lads - if you could game anywhere in the world for the next 2 months where would you go? I'm thinking FSU might still be too cold so don't know where to go...

Post: #555

South America

Post: #556

Which countries specifically would you recommend d_hzy? (Also, I don't know any Spanish or Portuguese, which may hinder me?)

Post: #557

Actually I haven't been to South America. I know a lot of places in Europe, but most good places like poland are really cold right now.
I'm in Southern France and I like it a lot. Weather is nice and chicks are cute. But you need French here.

I just met a dude who has been to Colombia many times and he loved it. (kinda confirmed the hype) And I know Colombian chicks are pretty receptive to asian dudes from personal experiences. Knowing Spanish would be huge, but I don't see you not have a good time without it. So Colombia could be good.

Brazil is another one. There is an expert on here so you know who to ask.

Post: #558

I was wondering in which thread I ask this question.

How do you guys think about The 3 principal types of game, which Roosh wrote about several years ago?

In this post, he said that it'll be a good idea to determine the degree of cockiness and how alpha you are based on the locale.
In the English speaking countries, the more alpha you are the better.
In FSU, being overconfident can hurt your game and showing that you're a stable and honest man is a better way.
In other regions such as South America, Central/Eastern Europe and Scandinavia, you'll better off to be somewhere in between being an alpha and a nice guy.

Because I'm Asian and this thread is visited by Asian guys (and some of you probably have already made international travels to meet women), I'd like to ask this question here.

I'm not doubting about Roosh's analysis, but simply curious about how guys on RVF think about these archetypes. Are game tactics can be made in such a simple way? How did you guys feel when you were gaming abroad, compared to when you're doing so in your country? (I suppose most of you were born and grown up in the Anglosphere.)

Post: #559

How come 262 got banned...thought he was well liked/respected on this forum? Anyone know the reason?

Post: #560

(02-09-2017 02:25 PM)Chengiz88 Wrote:  How come 262 got banned...thought he was well liked/respected on this forum? Anyone know the reason?

Yeah...super surprised as well. Met him in real life and dude has been nothing but a positive guy who contributes value to this forum as far as I can see.

Post: #561

292 allegedly did/said something in a private setting with the higher ups that didn't go over too well.

I'll be going to Ukraine for 4 weeks. Will focus mainly on brushing up on my game instead of learning Russian. It's going to be interesting.

Post: #562

(02-11-2017 04:03 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  292 allegedly did/said something in a private setting with the higher ups that didn't go over too well.

I'll be going to Ukraine for 4 weeks. Will focus mainly on brushing up on my game instead of learning Russian. It's going to be interesting.

That's gonna be sweet. Awaiting your shared experiences bro.

I'm planning to head there myself eventually. Are you rolling as a solo-asian traveling too btw?

Post: #563

(02-08-2017 12:27 PM)d_hzy Wrote:  Actually I haven't been to South America. I know a lot of places in Europe, but most good places like poland are really cold right now.
I'm in Southern France and I like it a lot. Weather is nice and chicks are cute. But you need French here.

I just met a dude who has been to Colombia many times and he loved it. (kinda confirmed the hype) And I know Colombian chicks are pretty receptive to asian dudes from personal experiences. Knowing Spanish would be huge, but I don't see you not have a good time without it. So Colombia could be good.

Brazil is another one. There is an expert on here so you know who to ask.

I spent about 3 weeks in Colombia in Nov 2015. 4 days in Bogota, 1 week in Cartagena and 2 weeks in Medellin. Asian guys can definitely do well here with some conversational level Spanish. Can't say much about Bogota due to my short stay but if you do some pipelining on Colombian Cupid you can definitely get some dates lined up. Don't bother with the local girls in Cartagena, I found them to be too dark / native / African looking to be attractive for my tastes. I day gamed on a whim and almost SDL'ed a Russian traveller on my last day though, so keep your eyes open for female tourists looking for an adventure in a romantic spot.

In Medellin, I "studied Spanish" at the universities library / outdoor cafeterias and did some day game there Daybang style. Most girls would be very happy to engage in conversation with you especially if you start off indirect, drop some cool facts about yourself and feel them out a little bit. If you're a "cool" Asian guy and not the typically dorky beta you can definitely do very well here, especially with Spanish, because girls view you as "shiny." That's how I met and banged an 18 year old Anglophile, a long with collecting a bunch of phone numbers but ran out of time to close them.

Tinder can be decent too. There's some Asian lovers out there and one Paisa girl I only exchanged Whatsapp messages with invited me out to her birthday party at a bar / club on a Sat night. I ended up partying with all her co-ed friends at a table with bottle service and had a great time. This definitely would not happen in my home town. Overall, yes, I would say Colombia is a solid place for Asian dudes with game and I'll be going back in Sept this year for a longer stay and to become fluent in Spanish

Post: #564

Brazil, Argentina and Colombia ( I know they have been done to death) but as an Asian guy would love to go there and test myself. Especially after reading all the stories of the white boys on here and their adventures in South America. Do Asians have value down there or do the gringos do well bcos of their blonde hair etc etc

Post: #565

I'm hapa (half Japanese) and so far Ive been in Ukraine for almost a week. Online game has been almost a complete waste of time but I've had to rely on it primarily because my Russian is basic.

I've had some success using Ukrainedate and almost nothing from Tinder. One girl that actually met up with me the next day was terribly unhappy about my height being 176cm. She was a feminist Tinderslut with copious make up. A solid 7. She was obsessed about height and kept bringing it up. I reframed with "you are obsessed with height. I'd rather be liked for my accomplishments than something I am born with and have no control over." It shut her up but it wasn't enough. I was pretty shocked at how entitled some girls here are.

I've been swiping for a week and it seems like Asian male phenotype isn't well received here. A few girls think my body looks okay because I lift but it's a small minority.

Flaunting wealth, provider game isn't as effective as I imagined it to be. I expected poor girls begging me to take them home with me but the girls with smartphone and internet access tend to be happy with their circumstances.

Most women here aren't obsessed with Caucasian phenotype and height but online these seem to correlate to female interest.

I'll write more as the results come.

Post: #566

(03-10-2017 04:16 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  I'm hapa (half Japanese) and so far Ive been in Ukraine for almost a week. Online game has been almost a complete waste of time but I've had to rely on it primarily because my Russian is basic.

I've had some success using Ukrainedate and almost nothing from Tinder. One girl that actually met up with me the next day was terribly unhappy about my height being 176cm. She was a feminist Tinderslut with copious make up. A solid 7. She was obsessed about height and kept bringing it up. I reframed with "you are obsessed with height. I'd rather be liked for my accomplishments than something I am born with and have no control over." It shut her up but it wasn't enough. I was pretty shocked at how entitled some girls here are.

I've been swiping for a week and it seems like Asian male phenotype isn't well received here. A few girls think my body looks okay because I lift but it's a small minority.

Flaunting wealth, provider game isn't as effective as I imagined it to be. I expected poor girls begging me to take them home with me but the girls with smartphone and internet access tend to be happy with their circumstances.

Most women here aren't obsessed with Caucasian phenotype and height but online these seem to correlate to female interest.

I'll write more as the results come.

Thanks for the write up - very interested in your experiences as I'm planning a trip out to that part of the world sometime in the next year or so myself. Where in Ukraine are you?

Post: #567

Kiev mostly. I'm going to branch out to kharkiv and maybe Odessa but if I don't get promising leads I might just fly to Russia where I have a few pipelines. I've matched up with several ukrainian girls on Tinder but half of it is by accident (and they unmatched me) and the other half don't bother replying. I'm getting actual responses from Russian women in Russia.

Before coming here it's best to test the waters with tinder plus like a week before coming or just see how receptive women are to your phenotype. If you can game on the streets with Russian don't bother with online. As mentioned earlier, young women know their SMV and they are approaching what Canadian uni girls are like.

Post: #568

(03-11-2017 07:55 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  Kiev mostly. I'm going to branch out to kharkiv and maybe Odessa but if I don't get promising leads I might just fly to Russia where I have a few pipelines. I've matched up with several ukrainian girls on Tinder but half of it is by accident (and they unmatched me) and the other half don't bother replying. I'm getting actual responses from Russian women in Russia.

Before coming here it's best to test the waters with tinder plus like a week before coming or just see how receptive women are to your phenotype. If you can game on the streets with Russian don't bother with online. As mentioned earlier, young women know their SMV and they are approaching what Canadian uni girls are like.

^
Are you gaming on streets, nightlife venues, and other daygame spots such as universities, cafes, etc?

(03-10-2017 04:16 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  I've had some success using Ukrainedate and almost nothing from Tinder. One girl that actually met up with me the next day was terribly unhappy about my height being 176cm. She was a feminist Tinderslut with copious make up. A solid 7. She was obsessed about height and kept bringing it up. I reframed with "you are obsessed with height. I'd rather be liked for my accomplishments than something I am born with and have no control over." It shut her up but it wasn't enough. I was pretty shocked at how entitled some girls here are.

If you think chicks can be very shallow about height in Ukraine, just wait till you hit up some other spots in Brazil where they can be even more shallow about it.

Slavic guys tend to be tall & that is what chicks are acclimated to growing up around those men; they can however respond very well to Asian guys if you possess worldly intelligent humor, dress well, and have an open mind.

Post: #569

(02-09-2017 06:28 AM)YMD Wrote:  In this post, he said that it'll be a good idea to determine the degree of cockiness and how alpha you are based on the locale.
In the English speaking countries, the more alpha you are the better.
In FSU, being overconfident can hurt your game and showing that you're a stable and honest man is a better way.
In other regions such as South America, Central/Eastern Europe and Scandinavia, you'll better off to be somewhere in between being an alpha and a nice guy.

1) In English speaking countries, being direct helps. You're also going to be judged on how well you can interact with others on a superficial level (same shit in Latin America as well).

If you're an Asian guy from North America who is gaming an Irish, UK, or Aussie chick, you can entice them with your differing accent on a superficial level.

2) You obviously need some sort of confidence & initiative to approach how chicks in the FSU right? I'd say being direct & confident there while knowing how to show your humble side at timely moments is best way of approaching situation.

3) South America, Scandinavia, and Central/Eastern Europe are completely different places. There are so many varying differences even WITHIN each area so grouping all three of those places into the same category is a bit questionable...

On a side note...
One sport I really enjoy is tennis. The major tournaments are played across the globe in every continent; the top competitors also stem from all over the world. You have different stages, wide array of personalities, and varying court surfaces each with their own set of difficulties.

What I really enjoy about the modern game these days is that the best players (Djokovic, Nadal, Federer, Murray, etc) & even upcoming talent possess the ability to excel on all playing surfaces (hard, carpet, clay, and grass). This ability to compete on all big stages was rare before the current reign of champions.

How does it relate to us regarding game? We obviously have different situations based on where we are physically, mentally, and location wise, which in turn affects our priorities too.

If you are investing your time & energies into reading RVF & specifically this thread however, there is a really good chance you're trying to improve your game. So why not try honing your overall SMV (sexual market value) for all "playing surfaces" since you're already here to begin with?

RVF is definitely rewarding but also time consuming; might as well utilize it to enhance your overall foundation since it will help in every gaming scenario you encounter.

Post: #570

When you look out on the street I see many similar-height couples, I also see many busted short dudes with alpha personalities with tall hb8s. Not every man here is dating up, I do see a decent amount of good looking shorter guys with hb5-6's.

I have already noticed that the online women open to being with me are the ones that are the most innocent - new to online or avoid bars/clubs. It's just tindersluts that want the tail end of the bell curve in height with the strongest preference for guys with a certain euro look.

I did a day approach with a girl that works at Vodafone as she was trying to impress me with her knowledge of English. Married, ejected. Instead of randomly asking strangers on the street if they speak English better to go to stores and ask for help. Odds are the hired gun speaks functional English and she is at least an HB7 and you can easily impress them with a wad of cash less than $500. I bought Cologne and shoes both of which were $80aud (60usd) at different stores - pulled out my wad of cash and pay and see the omg look on their faces. After paying I thank them for their help and casually go direct. Continued interaction, negotiated a date and number closed. This was a shoe store, there are hotter women at jewelry stores who probably speak English.

At some point I always get asked about ethnicity and I take this as a IOI because she is enquiring about me. The most interested women ask questions, the ones that don't I know I'm failing with. Im by no means an expert on game but with the latter women I think it's better to cut your losses.

Post: #571

Burn I like your tactic of flaunting your wealth to entice them, I'm thinking of Kiev in the summer too. Is there any racism towards Asian guys there?

Post: #572

(03-10-2017 04:16 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  I've had some success using Ukrainedate and almost nothing from Tinder. One girl that actually met up with me the next day was terribly unhappy about my height being 176cm.
...
I was pretty shocked at how entitled some girls here are.
...
I've been swiping for a week and it seems like Asian male phenotype isn't well received here.
...
Flaunting wealth, provider game isn't as effective as I imagined it to be.
...
Most women here aren't obsessed with Caucasian phenotype and height but online these seem to correlate to female interest.

I appreciate your honest report and thought, because many people tend to glorify travelling to meet women but few people critically evaluate both pros and cons.
Anyways, good luck on your endeavour and I look forward to your further report.

Post: #573

(03-11-2017 09:07 PM)YMD Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 04:16 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  I've had some success using Ukrainedate and almost nothing from Tinder. One girl that actually met up with me the next day was terribly unhappy about my height being 176cm.
...
I was pretty shocked at how entitled some girls here are.
...
I've been swiping for a week and it seems like Asian male phenotype isn't well received here.
...
Flaunting wealth, provider game isn't as effective as I imagined it to be.
...
Most women here aren't obsessed with Caucasian phenotype and height but online these seem to correlate to female interest.

I appreciate your honest report and thought, because many people tend to glorify travelling to meet women but few people critically evaluate both pros and cons.
Anyways, good luck on your endeavour and I look forward to your further report.

It sucks setting aside time/funds to stay in a new city only to get hit with unexpected tendencies like that. Not sure what's worse...dealing with those unfortunate bounces when visiting a city temporarily or relocating there. I've been at both ends of the spectrum. At least one has an extended period to make those adjustments when living in a new city opposed to a short visit.

That's why I'm a proponent of developing a great overall game foundation that can bear great results anywhere. Easier said than done though it comes with persistence over time; trust me.

I got several make outs during my visit to St. Petersburg, Russia though caught many bad breaks resulting in missed lays despite the sacrifices needed to make that trip happen. Whatever momentum I had from that trip returned state side as I was able to get two quick lays with good quality gals.

The most important aspect of developing a great foundation for all around game is that it eliminates internal scarcity mentality. I'd rather be living in other places right now gaming certain types of international gals; however, I'm back in the West making a living while getting by game wise. Heck it's not even a guarantee that all the game bounces would go in my favor if I stayed in a more preferable area. Learned that the hard way many times.

(03-06-2017 03:00 PM)Chengiz88 Wrote:  Brazil, Argentina and Colombia ( I know they have been done to death) but as an Asian guy would love to go there and test myself. Especially after reading all the stories of the white boys on here and their adventures in South America. Do Asians have value down there or do the gringos do well bcos of their blonde hair etc etc

Maybe you never read my insight on my experiences in Brazil and dealing with Latams state side..all within this Asian Guy Travel Thread:
Post 1 - /thread-2750-...pid1297023

Post 2 - /thread-2750-...pid1297547

In short, all of Latin America is not the same. There are big blocks of people that are predominantly of European descent (Spanish, Northern Italian, Polish, Ukrainian, German, Portuguese) and then others that are heavily of native Indigenous blood or even that of African ethnicities spread throughout.

Notice I said "Northern Italian" because many of the Italians in Venezuela, Argentina, and Brazil are from the north of the country whereas the ones in North America (Canada/US) stem from Sicily. Southern Italians = more Mediterranean genes with darker features. Northern Italians = higher chance of the lighter skin, blue eyes, blond hair. The proximity to France/Switzerland means many of these Northern Italians in Latin America might have French last names though will insist that their ethnicity is indeed primarily Italian.

I suggest you do your research on ethnicities throughout Colombia, Brazil, and Argentina before you group those three countries into one oversimplified category; there's even heavy differences WITHIN all three countries from an ethnic & cultural standpoint.

It's called Google or just reading the RVF contributions about Latin America.
There's already many posts about these three countries. I'm here if you have more inquiries...but please ask more educated questions showing that you've done the minimal amount of homework next time.

Places like the coast of Colombia, Northeast Brazil, and Peru are places where many white players can kill it for simply being....white. The local ethnicity of these places is primarily of Indigenous Indian or Africa descent. Not only are these places very poor but finding a white gringo male to breed children with more European features is HUGE. Even the white locals with more European descent in these areas will only marry other white people (local or gringo) to preserve their genes.

^^^ Sure Asian players can still kill it in those areas though not being white is an obstacle. (I don't find those women to be attractive anyways...)

Places like Argentina, interior of Colombia, farmland interior Brazil, and southern Brazil tend to possess women with more light skinned features. I've heard Asian guys are very well received in Colombia whether Medellin, Bogota, etc. Argentina not completely sure though my interactions with their women have been good.

Most women in both Argentina and Southern Brazil are not necessarily going to choose men based on their "whiteness" but rather a local guy who can reciprocate many of their cultural, emotional, and social tendencies. Heck I've seen many couples where it was a taller white female and a poorly dressed darker dude based on cultural tendencies around places like Porto Alegre or Curitiba in Southern Brazil.

If you read any of the links I posted above, you'd see it is exponentially better to claim you're straight up from Asia opposed to the West. The most desirable women in Southern Brazil are insecure about coming off as "easy" to guys from "developed" westernized countries; they will as a result want to practice their English with you through Whatsapp occasionally but not truly let you enter their personal space. Heck I could've pretended to be an American faggot & the locals would have assumed my "American card" was a method of leverage to have my way in their country (stupid I know).

Let's just say my results out there were exponentially better when claiming I was straight up from Taiwan, Vietnam, whatever opposed to the US. I still had to spit great game, speak fluent Portuguese, dress well, and present myself confidently in hooking up as their guards lowered while perceiving me as a non-threatening Asian dude, haha.

Post: #574

Good thread. Inspiring to see that there's a lot of Asian dudes who not only understand the struggle, but have overcome and help dudes like me.

Question for you all:

I'm planning to do a week long trip end of april to either Montreal, NYC or Chicago. Have never been to either. Likely will be going solo and want to take in the city but want to do a bunch of gaming as well. What do you guys recommend for having fun but also giving me the best chance of having a good, successful experience with game and getting laid?

Post: #575

(03-11-2017 02:38 PM)Chengiz88 Wrote:  Burn I like your tactic of flaunting your wealth to entice them, I'm thinking of Kiev in the summer too. Is there any racism towards Asian guys there?

Asian men go under the radar. Male tourists here are looked at as sex tourists and "diggers" looking for a LTR but Asian men are seen as businessmen or wealthy ugly tourists from China. I've only seen Asian men being treated fairly outside but this is outside the club settings. I get the impression men here don't believe any Asian men are here for women and even if we were we wouldn't get far. Most men here are getting more than their fair shake with women so they aren't concerned with us.

My feel is that if they were racist it's rare they would vocalise it as this is a social taboo. It's similar to Canadian racism where it's kept behind closed doors rather than out in the open like in Australia. TV is pushing diversity and multiculturalism here so most people are pretty liberal.

The only "racism" I've experienced is from women left-swiping me on Tinder over for the run-of-the-mill Ukrainian guy, but that's no different in any Western country.