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RE: What is your text messaging script after meeting a new girl?
Personally, I see a correlation between the terse text game discussed in this thread and the observations that flaking is going up.

I take a totally different approach. I text like crazy. I see text as the avenue to seduction. Women respond to words on paper, they love their books, their novels, their stories.

I don't have a script. But in looking at what I do text them about it basically breaks down like this:

pick up on something you've talked about and expand on it. music came up? then suggest a related album or song or something.

ask them questions about themselves that dont take much explanation.

be funny and playful and definitely give them shit.

i use smiley's all the time. I have to. because so much of what i text is sarcastic and could be seen as dickish if i didnt soften it.

i just called a 34 year old russian a babushka over text and added a smiley. she laughed and things continue.

i escalate incrementally until they are sending me selfies, daily with what they are wearing if there are days in between the dates. i do the same but not as specific. in some cases i can have them sending me nudes, us doing very explicit exchanges. in other cases i calibrate and we just talk about shoes or whatever.

i've sent hundreds of texts to a woman between first and second date and 9 times out of 10 i'm hitting it on the second date.

and i have a very very low flake rate. i can't even think of a time that a woman flaked on me in the last year to be honest. and by flake i mean not showed to a date.

i'm much less good at explaining what i do than doing what i do so maybe this post is useless, but i suggest that perhaps there is a link between brief impersonal texting and flake rates.
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(06-16-2014 04:29 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  Personally, I see a correlation between the terse text game discussed in this thread and the observations that flaking is going up.

I take a totally different approach. I text like crazy. I see text as the avenue to seduction. Women respond to words on paper, they love their books, their novels, their stories.

I don't have a script. But in looking at what I do text them about it basically breaks down like this:

pick up on something you've talked about and expand on it. music came up? then suggest a related album or song or something.

ask them questions about themselves that dont take much explanation.

be funny and playful and definitely give them shit.

i use smiley's all the time. I have to. because so much of what i text is sarcastic and could be seen as dickish if i didnt soften it.

i just called a 34 year old russian a babushka over text and added a smiley. she laughed and things continue.

i escalate incrementally until they are sending me selfies, daily with what they are wearing if there are days in between the dates. i do the same but not as specific. in some cases i can have them sending me nudes, us doing very explicit exchanges. in other cases i calibrate and we just talk about shoes or whatever.

i've sent hundreds of texts to a woman between first and second date and 9 times out of 10 i'm hitting it on the second date.

and i have a very very low flake rate. i can't even think of a time that a woman flaked on me in the last year to be honest. and by flake i mean not showed to a date.

i'm much less good at explaining what i do than doing what i do so maybe this post is useless, but i suggest that perhaps there is a link between brief impersonal texting and flake rates.

This is interesting as it seems to go against the conventional school of thought that texts should only be for logistics. You're pretty much advocating the opposite. You're saying texting should be for comfort, conversation and a sort of techno seduction. Hmmmm...I may try this as I've been going for logistics ( meeting for a date ) with the first one or two texts I send.
I see how this may be too abrupt for some women whose numbers you've got..... (ie....scare the cat)

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(06-16-2014 07:09 PM)robreke Wrote:  This is interesting as it seems to go against the conventional school of thought that texts should only be for logistics.

I want to say..

There is no "conventional school of thought".

Game is alive. Its morphs and evolves continuously due to societal and cultural pressures. What didn't work today may work tomorrow.

It's important that we don't limit ourselves with strict rules. The only rule is do what works.

The female will often lead herself into the bedroom. She will make herself available to us in certain ways, we just have to read her cues and "lead" her accordingly. We can also observe emotional pathways that she seems to be respond to. If texting allows us access to a girls heart and mind, we would be foolish not to pursue that opportunity.

Texting is now an emotional medium.

I used to avoid text conversations. Now, that concept seems boring. If she is opening up to me over text, why would I stop that momentum? I will take that momentum as far as I can and while I'm doing it, in the back of my mind, I am always guiding the interaction towards a physical meet up.

There are no rules.

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(06-16-2014 08:09 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Texting is now an emotional medium.

What I have noticed is that texting is used best when it is used as an extension of your personality.

Out in the real world, I generally come of as a calm person who speaks little and shows little to no emotion. Admittedly, I have a small level of rage and intensity that simmers under the surface, which comes off through how I look at people (oddly enough women find this very attractive).

The way I text is an extension of this. My texts are sporadic. They cut to the point. I show very little emotion (no smilies, strong words, or exclamation points).

Women respond to this by showing up when I ask them to.

I would say it is best for a man to work on becoming the kind of man he wants to be before changing his texting persona.

You want to have more sexual and aggressive text convos. Become a more sexual and aggressive man.

You want to have shorter and more to the point text convos. Become more valuable and intense.

Become the man you want to be first, then alter the way you text to align with that. The girls will sense that it is congruent and respond positively.
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RE: What is your text messaging script after meeting a new girl?
Gio has it nailed. you go with their flow in many ways over text.

you'd be surprised, women you think would never be into it, are. even sending selfies and other shit you ask for.
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(06-16-2014 04:29 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  Personally, I see a correlation between the terse text game discussed in this thread and the observations that flaking is going up.

I take a totally different approach. I text like crazy. I see text as the avenue to seduction. Women respond to words on paper, they love their books, their novels, their stories.

I don't have a script. But in looking at what I do text them about it basically breaks down like this:

pick up on something you've talked about and expand on it. music came up? then suggest a related album or song or something.

ask them questions about themselves that dont take much explanation.

be funny and playful and definitely give them shit.

i use smiley's all the time. I have to. because so much of what i text is sarcastic and could be seen as dickish if i didnt soften it.

i just called a 34 year old russian a babushka over text and added a smiley. she laughed and things continue.

i escalate incrementally until they are sending me selfies, daily with what they are wearing if there are days in between the dates. i do the same but not as specific. in some cases i can have them sending me nudes, us doing very explicit exchanges. in other cases i calibrate and we just talk about shoes or whatever.

i've sent hundreds of texts to a woman between first and second date and 9 times out of 10 i'm hitting it on the second date.

and i have a very very low flake rate. i can't even think of a time that a woman flaked on me in the last year to be honest. and by flake i mean not showed to a date.

i'm much less good at explaining what i do than doing what i do so maybe this post is useless, but i suggest that perhaps there is a link between brief impersonal texting and flake rates.

So much truth here other than accepting and recognizing that this is the palette we have to work with. Master it. Go all in and text more.

Personally I hate writing lots of texts on my phone, Im busy. iMessage makes it easier and fun to text on your computer.
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yep, i use imessage on laptop as much as i can
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i just had an entire conversation with a woman tonight about modern art, advertising and cultural differences in perception and morality whether its relative or universal...all over text.

and this is between date 1 and date 2.

she has a much deeper appreciation for who i am and i of her, all via text

its like having a date while you're sitting watching the baseball game and chatting with your boys.

i cant see the hate behind no texting other than logistics.
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(06-17-2014 10:45 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  i just had an entire conversation with a woman tonight about modern art, advertising and cultural differences in perception and morality whether its relative or universal...all over text.

and this is between date 1 and date 2.

she has a much deeper appreciation for who i am and i of her, all via text

its like having a date while you're sitting watching the baseball game and chatting with your boys.

i cant see the hate behind no texting other than logistics.

Your earlier posts have got me thinking. Terse text is un-fun, I am sure she sees it that way too. Strangely enough it builds comfort level, whereas a phone call or even social connections would in the past. If shes texting with you, her mom and her best friend simultaneously, that would have to put you in the same bucket.
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I'm wondering about this myself as I don't have much experience with texting. Roosh's advice in BANG is to be rather terse and all about logistics, but I wonder if they are expecting something more. For instance, all the stuff on Heartiste like "-10 points" and "8===D" etc... Since BANG was published, social media messaging and texting has really exploded.

Also, I don't do online game, partly since Roosh advocated against it as there is a lot of low quality found there, but I'm now wondering if it's actually good to do because then you get a lot of practice with this stuff.

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For the most part, texting should be used for logistical issue "Meet @ 'x' @ 9" or "Be there in 20" types of communication.

"Real" conversations via text can be misconstrued, misunderstood or can come across as weird.

Talking to women is the way to go; in addition to making sure your message is delivered perfectly, it separates you from the sheeple that endlessly text. Plus calling can reinforce your frame of the situation, which is rule #1.

Texting is also lazy; another reason it should be utilized as a "side dish", not the "main course".

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Tom Torero suggests some random teasing text spikes of she has not replied to your last text and you have waited 48 hrs.

Stuff like, "have you been kidnapped? Tell them I'll pay the ransom"

Anyone ever have luck with that?

Also, doesn't Heartiste suggest throwing out random BS like "I'm making the worlds smallest snowman" etc.?

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(06-16-2014 07:09 PM)robreke Wrote:  
(06-16-2014 04:29 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  Personally, I see a correlation between the terse text game discussed in this thread and the observations that flaking is going up.

I take a totally different approach. I text like crazy. I see text as the avenue to seduction. Women respond to words on paper, they love their books, their novels, their stories.

I don't have a script. But in looking at what I do text them about it basically breaks down like this:

pick up on something you've talked about and expand on it. music came up? then suggest a related album or song or something.

ask them questions about themselves that dont take much explanation.

be funny and playful and definitely give them shit.

i use smiley's all the time. I have to. because so much of what i text is sarcastic and could be seen as dickish if i didnt soften it.

i just called a 34 year old russian a babushka over text and added a smiley. she laughed and things continue.

i escalate incrementally until they are sending me selfies, daily with what they are wearing if there are days in between the dates. i do the same but not as specific. in some cases i can have them sending me nudes, us doing very explicit exchanges. in other cases i calibrate and we just talk about shoes or whatever.

i've sent hundreds of texts to a woman between first and second date and 9 times out of 10 i'm hitting it on the second date.

and i have a very very low flake rate. i can't even think of a time that a woman flaked on me in the last year to be honest. and by flake i mean not showed to a date.

i'm much less good at explaining what i do than doing what i do so maybe this post is useless, but i suggest that perhaps there is a link between brief impersonal texting and flake rates.

This is interesting as it seems to go against the conventional school of thought that texts should only be for logistics. You're pretty much advocating the opposite. You're saying texting should be for comfort, conversation and a sort of techno seduction. Hmmmm...I may try this as I've been going for logistics ( meeting for a date ) with the first one or two texts I send.
I see how this may be too abrupt for some women whose numbers you've got..... (ie....scare the cat)

I'd avoid texting game. I've dabbled with it and I can be funny and flirty. However, like Tuth mentioned earlier it is a high wire act and you can very very easily blow out. More often than not I'm pretty sure I screw it up.

It's safer to keep it simple.
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(10-14-2014 01:57 PM)frenchie Wrote:  
(06-16-2014 07:09 PM)robreke Wrote:  
(06-16-2014 04:29 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  

This is interesting as it seems to go against the conventional school of thought that texts should only be for logistics. You're pretty much advocating the opposite. You're saying texting should be for comfort, conversation and a sort of techno seduction. Hmmmm...I may try this as I've been going for logistics ( meeting for a date ) with the first one or two texts I send.
I see how this may be too abrupt for some women whose numbers you've got..... (ie....scare the cat)

I'd avoid texting game. I've dabbled with it and I can be funny and flirty. However, like Tuth mentioned earlier it is a high wire act and you can very very easily blow out. More often than not I'm pretty sure I screw it up.

It's safer to keep it simple.

Yeah I used to use text strictly for logistics too, but recently I started doing more texting game - I think it can work very well. It is kinda an high wire act, but done properly it can be very very effective. You then meet up with the girl and there is immediate connection because you already kinda "know" each other from text. Also, younger girls these days text with their friends all the time - it's just part of their normal daily life. Sending only terse texts can come off as "weird" to some of them. Especially if there's a bigger age difference. In their minds they might be thinking "I don't know this guy, should I really meet up with him?" but when you've been texting for a while, you almost become a "friend" and they think they know you.
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(10-14-2014 02:53 PM)Ice Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 01:57 PM)frenchie Wrote:  
(06-16-2014 07:09 PM)robreke Wrote:  
(06-16-2014 04:29 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  

This is interesting as it seems to go against the conventional school of thought that texts should only be for logistics. You're pretty much advocating the opposite. You're saying texting should be for comfort, conversation and a sort of techno seduction. Hmmmm...I may try this as I've been going for logistics ( meeting for a date ) with the first one or two texts I send.
I see how this may be too abrupt for some women whose numbers you've got..... (ie....scare the cat)

I'd avoid texting game. I've dabbled with it and I can be funny and flirty. However, like Tuth mentioned earlier it is a high wire act and you can very very easily blow out. More often than not I'm pretty sure I screw it up.

It's safer to keep it simple.

Yeah I used to use text strictly for logistics too, but recently I started doing more texting game - I think it can work very well. It is kinda an high wire act, but done properly it can be very very effective. You then meet up with the girl and there is immediate connection because you already kinda "know" each other from text. Also, younger girls these days text with their friends all the time - it's just part of their normal daily life. Sending only terse texts can come off as "weird" to some of them. Especially if there's a bigger age difference. In their minds they might be thinking "I don't know this guy, should I really meet up with him?" but when you've been texting for a while, you almost become a "friend" and they think they know you.

I think I ran into this as it sounds a lot like it. I am older. Texted "let's hang later this week" according to what I read in the guides and I got silence even though she already agreed to that in person.

I sense that she expects some flirty comfort building or fun little back and forth. Could I be coming off as too aggressive/pushy?
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(10-14-2014 03:47 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 02:53 PM)Ice Wrote:  
(06-16-2014 04:29 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Yeah I used to use text strictly for logistics too, but recently I started doing more texting game - I think it can work very well. It is kinda an high wire act, but done properly it can be very very effective. You then meet up with the girl and there is immediate connection because you already kinda "know" each other from text. Also, younger girls these days text with their friends all the time - it's just part of their normal daily life. Sending only terse texts can come off as "weird" to some of them. Especially if there's a bigger age difference. In their minds they might be thinking "I don't know this guy, should I really meet up with him?" but when you've been texting for a while, you almost become a "friend" and they think they know you.

I think I ran into this as it sounds a lot like it. I am older. Texted "let's hang later this week" according to what I read in the guides and I got silence even though she already agreed to that in person.

I sense that she expects some flirty comfort building or fun little back and forth. Could I be coming off as too aggressive/pushy?

Yeah that could be. I think it's better to have some sort of "natural" conversation and then later you can set something up. Sending just one text "let's hang later this week" without an into might come off weird to some people.
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I sent a few short texts more or less trying to copy the format in BANG talking about how an activity she was doing over the weekend went and on the third one I suggested the meetup. Too soon.

I think this direct logistical approach may only be good for "yes" girls. You are screening out the "maybes".

I ran into something similar back in the phone era. I was working as a part time waiter and a hot blonde chick left me her number without asking. So I called her up to set up a time to meet. She was all, "wow, you get right down to business" and was basically kind of annoyed, so it went nowhere.

Perhaps they do want some conversation plus all that flirty seductive stuff Heartiste talks about to warm them up and convince them when they're on the fence.
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(10-14-2014 09:01 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  I sent a few short texts more or less trying to copy the format in BANG talking about how an activity she was doing over the weekend went and on the third one I suggested the meetup. Too soon.

I think this direct logistical approach may only be good for "yes" girls. You are screening out the "maybes".

I ran into something similar back in the phone era. I was working as a part time waiter and a hot blonde chick left me her number without asking. So I called her up to set up a time to meet. She was all, "wow, you get right down to business" and was basically kind of annoyed, so it went nowhere.

Perhaps they do want some conversation plus all that flirty seductive stuff Heartiste talks about to warm them up and convince them when they're on the fence.

Yeah lately I've been going back an forth on text for several days before meeting up. I think it works very well. It's important to know when to cut it off tho. It's almost like writing script for a tv series lol. It's best to just stop texting when you're in an interesting point during the conversation and then pick it up again the next day. Kinda like leaving a cliff hanger lol. That way you almost always get an answer the next day. With this technique it's pretty easy to spread a convo over several days.
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(10-14-2014 08:42 PM)Ice Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 03:47 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 02:53 PM)Ice Wrote:  
(06-16-2014 04:29 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Yeah I used to use text strictly for logistics too, but recently I started doing more texting game - I think it can work very well. It is kinda an high wire act, but done properly it can be very very effective. You then meet up with the girl and there is immediate connection because you already kinda "know" each other from text. Also, younger girls these days text with their friends all the time - it's just part of their normal daily life. Sending only terse texts can come off as "weird" to some of them. Especially if there's a bigger age difference. In their minds they might be thinking "I don't know this guy, should I really meet up with him?" but when you've been texting for a while, you almost become a "friend" and they think they know you.

I think I ran into this as it sounds a lot like it. I am older. Texted "let's hang later this week" according to what I read in the guides and I got silence even though she already agreed to that in person.

I sense that she expects some flirty comfort building or fun little back and forth. Could I be coming off as too aggressive/pushy?

Yeah that could be. I think it's better to have some sort of "natural" conversation and then later you can set something up. Sending just one text "let's hang later this week" without an into might come off weird to some people.

I feel like you kill a lot more birds with a single stone if you just send purely logistical texts, and stay away from text game. I always love the "wow you get right down to business" response from a girl, as it's the perfect time to "lay down the ground rules". This is a classic shit test, if anything more than just some basic opening/welcoming for flirting. She's trying to see if she can catch you on "being too forward" or the fact that you guys "just met" etc.

Show her right then and there that you don't fuck around. This can and will lead to the revealing of HV areas/traits about yourself in an innocent and covert, yet extremely effective way. For example, how busy/fun your life is, how you don't have too much time to spend on her because of other options/girls, that you are not there to waste any time talking shit through texts (I'm hoping you have a lot better things to do with your time than text some number ( and I mean notch on the belt) incessantly)

Replying with nothing else but "I'm a busy guy" to something like that immediately sets the tone of the interaction, letting her know that you can drop her like a bad fucking habit at the tickle of your penis from the french girl next door.

This has just been my experience, but as someone stated above, you run a really high risk of the girl over-analyzing/over-thinking things you send them. Which do you think is going to get a better response, being at the car door making out with her before you drop her off and "leading" her to inviting you in to fuck? Or texting her a day prior asking if you can fuck her at her place while her parents are home after the first date?...shit you might as well throw "think about it and get back to me" in there while you're at it. You don't want women to think about these things, because they are terrible at it and you want to be the one leading the interaction.

The point is, from personal failure, I have learned that if something is written down/documented like that(texts), it exists. Meaning, half the time girls don't even listen to what you say, they only listen to "how" you say it in face-to-face interactions. This is the phase where you should be doing all of the attraction/comfort building. When using texting, they won't have a way of observing the "how", so they will obsess over the "what", and unluckily for you, they have records of the cool/stupid shit you might/might not have said, all to themselves, and the little hamster in their head (that's why you know that's it's possible to completely kill an otherwise sexual interaction with the use of a single text, as we have all face-palmed after sending something like that, once in our life).

Bottom line, eliminate/prevent the potential for over-analysis and overall time to "think things through", play uninterested/busy, and always be sure she doesn't know where she quite stands with you, otherwise you will have to wrestle a yeti's nest worth of "female rationale", whatever the fuck that is...
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RE: What is your text messaging script after meeting a new girl?
No script, it depends on the girl. I enjoy a bit (only a bit, had a while where I went on for too long or too frequently) of random witty banter back and forth with girls who respond well to that - including a smiley/winky face here and there if I'm using irony, mild sarcasm or something else that could potentially be misinterpreted by someone who barely knows me yet (went out with a girl recently who had a little bit of trouble with my face to face humour as well since I was deadpanning it most of the time, but she caught on quickly enough).

With girls who quickly give me the impression that humour - at least in text form - isn't their strong suit, I keep texting to an absolute minimum, and rarely any smilies unless I feel it's needed, and try to very quickly set up a date.

I very rarely bother trying to sexualize my texts or otherwise flirt overtly with the second group of girls, but frequently do it at modest levels with the former.
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RE: What is your text messaging script after meeting a new girl?
(10-14-2014 10:48 PM)Griprip08 Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 08:42 PM)Ice Wrote:  [quote='RexImperator' pid='853050' dateline='1413319641']
[quote='Ice' pid='853010' dateline='1413316420']
[quote='reaper23' pid='756223' dateline='1402954188']

I feel like you kill a lot more birds with a single stone if you just send purely logistical texts, and stay away from text game. I always love the "wow you get right down to business" response from a girl, as it's the perfect time to "lay down the ground rules". This is a classic shit test, if anything more than just some basic opening/welcoming for flirting. She's trying to see if she can catch you on "being too forward" or the fact that you guys "just met" etc.

Show her right then and there that you don't fuck around. This can and will lead to the revealing of HV areas/traits about yourself in an innocent and covert, yet extremely effective way. For example, how busy/fun your life is, how you don't have too much time to spend on her because of other options/girls, that you are not there to waste any time talking shit through texts (I'm hoping you have a lot better things to do with your time than text some number ( and I mean notch on the belt) incessantly)

Replying with nothing else but "I'm a busy guy" to something like that immediately sets the tone of the interaction, letting her know that you can drop her like a bad fucking habit at the tickle of your penis from the french girl next door.

This has just been my experience, but as someone stated above, you run a really high risk of the girl over-analyzing/over-thinking things you send them. Which do you think is going to get a better response, being at the car door making out with her before you drop her off and "leading" her to inviting you in to fuck? Or texting her a day prior asking if you can fuck her at her place while her parents are home after the first date?...shit you might as well throw "think about it and get back to me" in there while you're at it. You don't want women to think about these things, because they are terrible at it and you want to be the one leading the interaction.

The point is, from personal failure, I have learned that if something is written down/documented like that(texts), it exists. Meaning, half the time girls don't even listen to what you say, they only listen to "how" you say it in face-to-face interactions. This is the phase where you should be doing all of the attraction/comfort building. When using texting, they won't have a way of observing the "how", so they will obsess over the "what", and unluckily for you, they have records of the cool/stupid shit you might/might not have said, all to themselves, and the little hamster in their head (that's why you know that's it's possible to completely kill an otherwise sexual interaction with the use of a single text, as we have all face-palmed after sending something like that, once in our life).

Bottom line, eliminate/prevent the potential for over-analysis and overall time to "think things through", play uninterested/busy, and always be sure she doesn't know where she quite stands with you, otherwise you will have to wrestle a yeti's nest worth of "female rationale", whatever the fuck that is...

Yeah I agree, I think it's always better to speak face to face, because - as you said yourself - oftentimes what you say is not so important at all, instead it's more about your vibe and how you say things.

But the problem is, if you only talked with the girl for 5 minutes or less at a bar, then sometimes it can be tricky to get her to meet up. Also, if for some reason she can't meet up until later in the week or even in the week after that, and if you don't do text game, that means that your 5-minute interaction at the bar has had to be strong enough to keep her interested for 7 or 10 days to meet up with you - that is not always the case. So that's why you sometimes need some "entertainment" in between to keep her interested.
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RE: What is your text messaging script after meeting a new girl?
(10-14-2014 03:47 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  I sense that she expects some flirty comfort building or fun little back and forth.

Could I be coming off as too aggressive/pushy?

Your text game is a reflection of your personality.

If your text game is dry and boring, she will often assume that your personality is dry and boring.

If you are pushy, aggressive, and lacking in social awareness, she will often assume that your personality is pushy, aggressive, and lacking in social awareness.

Trying to set up a date before establishing a certain degree of comfort and rapport shows a lack of social awareness. Just because a girl gives you her number does not mean that she is ready to go on a date with you. You first have to display a bit a value to her by making her laugh, texting her something interesting, teaching her something, engaging her emotions, etc. Doing this lets her know that you have some value to offer and it also builds comfort and rapport.

I recommend that guys have at least one text dialogue with a girl after getting her number and BEFORE trying to set up the logistics for a date.

Don't ask for a date before building a bit of comfort!

Simply getting a girls number does not establish enough comfort.

Setting up logistics is logical. Vaginas do not often operate on logic, they operate on emotions and feelings.. Thus, building comfort and establishing an emotional connection is essential to setting the date. Without comfort and some sort of emotional bond, it's hard to get a date.

Don't be in a rush to set the date, be in a rush to make her laugh and tickle her emotions. Once you've done that, setting the date will be much easier.

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It was 2007 (I think) when Roosh wrote-- "texting should be used for logistics only".

I believe that times had changed since then. Texting has literally replaced talking, in many cases. Texting and all other forms of electronic communication have become more personal and emotionally expressive.. If we are boring over social media and text, people will assume that we are boring in person.

I think it is to our advantage try and have an entertaining, fun, emotionally engaging text chat before trying to set a date.

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This thread was started by Roosh last year:

(06-03-2013 01:13 PM)Roosh Wrote:  You already know mine. I keep it simple and mostly about logistics. No jokes, stories, and sparing use of smiley faces.

I'm curious what you guys do.

It seems that he was exploring other strategies.

I believe that text game has evolved. it's now necessary and helpful to use text for more than just logistical set up. Send pictures, video, memes, etc. Anything that will help you create rapport with the girl.
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RE: What is your text messaging script after meeting a new girl?
Gio that was a killer post. Would give another rep point if I hadnt already. It resonates as being spot on.

Unfortunately I had to learn this one the hard way. Not sure if it's salvageable or not.

I'm thinking of sending nothing and then seeing what happens when I see her in person later in the week, since this was a social circle contact.

If only you knew how bad things really are.
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Hey Gio, great post - exactly my opinion.
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RE: What is your text messaging script after meeting a new girl?
Hey guys my first post didnt wanna open another thread so just gonna add my scenario but i met this girl in my class and shes 25 im 21 so first time tryna game an older girl. So far i met up with her once had coffee everything is going good from what i see. so its friday nite i hit her up and texted her saying
"Are you free tonite"
Her; "I Think im having a girls night out not quite sure"
ME:"Yes or no
Her:"I Cant TonightSad what're you gonna do?"

Should i reply? or keep the mysterious thing going cause by this i take it she seems curious now to what i will do or say something witty?
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