Post: #126

(04-22-2018 07:58 AM)Rossi Wrote:  

(04-21-2018 05:36 AM)Edmaster Wrote:  France, particularly Paris, is really influenced by the fashion gay globo homo culture.

This is really true. I liked Marseille much better than Paris.

Marseille has a very different vibe than Paris. People are more laid back. it's very social circle oriented with a strong in and out mentality. You can find good looking girls often quiet slim and tanned.

Unfortunately the city is one of the poorest in France and one of the most dangerous city in Europe (a lot of immigration from northern African countries).

Soccer is really present in the culture in there. The good thing about Marseille is that at least girls value masculinity a lot more than in Paris.
Sadly a lot of them (usually from lower class, sometime even middle one) end up with northern african guys.

But overrall i have to say that there are way better cities in France for girls.

Post: #127

Ok, i'm french, born and raised in Paris.
I have traveled enough in my life to tell you without a shadow of doubt that french women are totally overrated and often not worth the hassle
I'm talking about the french girls you will meet on the Paris streets.
I’m an active day gamer and roam the city everytime i can. The quality of the girls here sucks balls. I can sometime walk for a straight 2-3 hours on a sunny week end in the most crowded areas without seeing anything fuckable. Most of the girls that qualifies are foreigners. I only opened one girl in 3 hours this afternoon and she was ukrainian american..

Ok lets be clear about what i’m looking for; classy face, 1.75, long legs, small ass, 50-55kg, athletic. Minimum 8/9. 10 being a runway model by my standards
I’m not settling down for anything less. I’m a well built guy, good face, good talker, well traveled, i make good dollar. I’m money
I’ve been living in LA, NYC, and go to Moscow quite often, i have no reason to lower my standards for this french BS

Here is my data sheet of the Parisian girl:

- most are 6 or below. They mostly are small, skinny fat, pretty dull looking. Brown eyes / dark hair
- they rarely work out, hence poor bodies. Being slim isn’t all
- they smoke and drink. Yuk
- they are feminist
- average cultured. They very rarely blow my mind. Most are as dumb as everywhere
- stuck up. Most girls you will open here in Paris are up their own ass and won't make any effort to talk
- level of entitlement: extreme. They really think they are the shit. This is one of the rare countries where you will actually find good looking guys with unattractive girlfriends.
A french F6 will basically aim at a M8 which is ridiculous and unacceptable. No guys should agree to put up with that kind of deal. Look up next time you visit. It’s shocking
- style: the elite dresses classic and elegant, the vast majority dresses like the rest of the world, H&M boring and dull
- they don’t take care of themselves like women do in NYC or Moscow, where women work out, do facial, manicure, spa, etc…There is no comparison
- many actually talk like total white trashes, but you foreign guys can't dig it


Now the good things:

- they dress decently
- they normally behave decently
- they will pay for their own shits
- they are low key
- they make good & reliable partners (for a french guy at least)


They may look and sound sophisticated and sexy to you strangers with their accent etc, but lets be real for a second gentlemen we don’t fuck acccents and clothes.
Forget a sec they are french and they got nothing. The sophisticated women that blow my mind are found in large EE metro areas such as Moscow, St Petersburg, KIev, Warsaw. Period

Post: #128

I've been to France maybe 20-25 times, especially in Paris and southern cities. I think problem with the French girls is that, country has a lot of Arabs and Africans. I mean, it's hard to find true French girl by blood nowadays. At least, in Paris and southern cities.

If I would have gone to some villages in north, maybe you'll have higher chance of finding them.

Post: #129

Foreigners find French women clever and feminine because when they talk in english, they will not say gross things (their english is not very good). But don't worry, when they talk in French, they swear a lot and behave like tomboys.

Parisian white women are some the most entitled women on earth as far as I know. I'd add Medellin white paisas to the list, they on par with them if not worse.

Post: #130

In paris right now.

I would say you really need to distinguish the working and lower class girls with higher more sofisticated girls who knows more about fashion.
The problem I see in Paris is that there are loads of teenager wannabe Kardashians who roam the streets, and French culture is a social circle culture, as opposed to EE metropolises where there are more single girls or groups of single girls doing things by themselves.

Post: #131

(05-28-2018 05:37 AM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  In paris right now.

I would say you really need to distinguish the working and lower class girls with higher more sofisticated girls who knows more about fashion.
The problem I see in Paris is that there are loads of teenager wannabe Kardashians who roam the streets, and French culture is a social circle culture, as opposed to EE metropolises where there are more single girls or groups of single girls doing things by themselves.

Fashion is global now. Most girls and guys dress exactly the same in all major metropolitan areas, so the parisan hedge is not more relevant imho.
As i already said, fashion is great, it shows if a girl takes care of herself, but it doesn't replace a great body and mind.
I just got out of a long term relationship with a highly fashionable french hipster living in Brooklyn. She had a really hot body, but boy, her personality even though she was very smart and could be fun on occasions, was a total disaster. She was bitchy, vindicative, uncaring even though she was deeply in love with me
My point is that sophistication and looks isn't all. I'd prefer a girl with no looks and an amazing body and mind rather than a fashionable cunt
You can always upgrade looks and fashion, you can't change minds and bodies

Post: #132

French women are totally not worth it. The country is a liberal disaster, the women are cute but nothing compared to FSU and sophistication is just another byword for an uppity attitude. Go on any online dating site or just talk to to any French girl, they are all "sapiosexual" these days WTF?

Give me 3 months and I can teach a FSU/SEA girls to appreciate fine dining and arts pas de problème, but you can spend 3 centuries and good luck changing French women's attitude.

The social circle culture you talk about is just a mask for bigotry, faggotry and unnecessary drama. God saves me as if the girls here aren't bitchy enough, the guys are bitchier and seem to revel in drama. Everybody is really sleeping with everybody here and every time a girl get passed around there is enough drama for 3 reality series, but the bitch boy she gets passed around to couldn't be happier. It's almost as sex is secondary to drama and gossiping here, people prefer sex within social circle just to have drama because it aint fun to have a ONS with some random guy nobody knows about.

Not too long ago I got out of another fling with a French girl in my Aikido circle, and I gotta say this one has to be my last. The drama isn't worth it. You name the drama, French girls can do it better.

The culture is a joke. I know more about French culture than most girls. It's a replica of USA culture here complete with the French version of Kanye (Maitre Gim), Kim Kardashian and company. The hottest girls tend to be, unfortunately, the white trash girls or arabs girls.

There's a saying among guys here: it's easier to bed a French girl in Madrid/Barca than in France. Go figure.

I'm just here because I like good wine for cheap.

Post: #133

I've always had a very positive stereotype of French girls (well-dressed, cultured, educated) but it seems it's just fairy tales.

My last "encounter" with French girls was as follows. Auld Reekie, weekend, fantastic weather. Bear in mind, I'm at my best - fresh haircut, fitted clothes, clean appearance and fashionable (?) blue leather jacket and my reasonably white guy's good looks to boot. Spotted holiday arrivals with two wheelie suitcases, followed up a bit then the girls after a couple minutes got to a city's major square.

Middle of the day, full sunshine, happy people roaming around and chilling al fresco. One girl looking at the google maps (I presume) that I liked the look of (7, say) and stationary, the other a few good feet away looking at a printed map stuck to the post.

I approach with neutral opener. Before I even finished, she just twice repeated "Yes" with unmistakable French accent whilst, at the same time, grabbed her suitcase and hurriedly walked away.

My jaw dropped. Never ever have experienced such a blow out. Stood there looking at them hurriedly walk away, when they crossed the street she looked over apprehensively, suspecting me to follow them like a retard?

I guess with all these metoo and "street harassment", girls became completely paranoid?

Incidentally, the girl was wearing very tight clothes. If they are that paranoid simple solution - no make-up and burka, guaranteed not a single men will cast a look.

Post: #134

Yeah, French girls got a fuck huge attitude problems, and this extend to your social circle. They are absolutely ruthless with the guys they deem unworthy. They will go to your house for party and act like it's their place, putting their legs on the table and shit like that, at 9pm when nobody is drunk. You show them hospitality or kindness you get nothing but rudeness.

Anglo girls are bitches but at least they are not always that rude. You most often get hit with the "I have a boyfriend" or some similar stuff. But French girls will have no problems shooing you away and look at you like the most disgusting piece of slime.

Those very same girls will go to club, get molested by random immigrants without a word of complaint, then twit about how all men are pigs. Really it's a global scene now.

Post: #135

Weird, I've always thought Dalaran was in the "French girls are so awesome, let's all praise them" camp.

Before, I lived in Paris a bit less than 1 year. I did some daygame during the warmer days, and as a native French guy, I never got anywhere close to fucking a white French girl from it. I don't even recall getting a true number from one of them.

With around 150 approaches in Paris, I had sex with :
- 2 non-white French
- 3 Asians on holidays or studying here

... and exactly 0 white French. Not even a true phone number. That's to give you an idea of how entitled they are!

Recently I've visited Ukraine and now Estonia. Sure, they are not as easy as in Asia, but they are good places for daygame compared to Paris. In Kiev it's at least a 50% chance that a 6 will give me her number (took me some calibration but by the end of my stay it was like that). In Tallinn you must do a bit more effort but it's not that hard at all. Just saying! To give my fellow Frenchmen some elements of comparison!

Of course if you're Arab or Black ignore this post. You will find plenty of girls on Paris willing to get slapped and peed on. Just go to a nightclub / bar and treat them like shit.

Post: #136

(05-27-2018 06:33 PM)tzar Wrote:  - most are 6 or below. They mostly are small, skinny fat, pretty dull looking. Brown eyes / dark hair
- they rarely work out, hence poor bodies. Being slim isn’t all
- they smoke and drink. Yuk
- they are feminist
- average cultured. They very rarely blow my mind. Most are as dumb as everywhere
- stuck up. Most girls you will open here in Paris are up their own ass and won't make any effort to talk
- level of entitlement: extreme. They really think they are the shit. This is one of the rare countries where you will actually find good looking guys with unattractive girlfriends.

+1. Absolutely. Nonetheless the fact that "they smoke and drink" is not a flaw in my book, I'm not a Taliban - I would even say that the fact that they drink is a quality.

That said, Paris being Paris -a cosmopolitan city, you have many other options than those french ethnic cunts. There is a big brasilian community (with a good rotation of newcomers), many cap-verdians (and cap verdians chicks can be absolutely stunning), many girls from Reunion Island/French Antilles ethnicity (also, some absolutely stunning and quite easy-going), many black girls from the french Western Africa colonies, tons of single russian tourists (many eager to meet a french gentleman, I can testify - and BTW there is also a decent russian expat community) and as many, if not more, J-girls tourists (but those ones are too easy to score -yawn), romanian chicks working here (Romania is definitely the most francophile country in Europe), argentinians from european descent, vietnameses (or laotians) second-generation migrants, ect ect ect ect. I could go on and on about all the nationalities who visit or live in Paris. You just have to know where to go (where are the brasilian parties, the russian events - you can even go to the ukrainian embassy when there is literary readings or traditional music concerts and you'll meet ukrainian women, the "african" high-end clubs where there's top beauties from Mali or Senegal, ect ect) ....and also, I don't know any EE or FSU chick who doesn't want to visit Paris, so it's quite easy to invite one through dating sites (provided you already mesh well, have a decent apartment and are ready to spend a bit to entertain her).

I'm ok with french women bashing, but definitely not with Paris bashing. Without even saying that it's still one of the most beautiful (for me, the most) city in the world.

Post: #137

I agree that the hottest girls in Paris are Arab ones and to less extent mixed black/white or Latina mix. Some of their bodies are stunning, even at a global level. They fit my taste perfectly at physical level.

As for the social circle drama, thats pretty common in France i think. If you have studied at the lycee or university ( note: public ones), you will know whats it like. Everyone sleeps with everyone and you have to be a bit ruthless about it, you cant just be a nice guy.

I do think its quite sad to having to resort to foreigners / girls of foreign origins in cities like London or Paris, which are both global cities.

Post: #138

All women are overrated. If you're looking at a women from a cultural or racial standpoint as in to rank one from another then its highly likely you're under-investing in yourself and over-investing in a women. This will result in your own demise sooner than later, especially with women.

Post: #139

(05-28-2018 12:51 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  Everyone sleeps with everyone

There is a reason why Paris has the highest ratio of swinger clubs in the world. The one who doesn't get laid in Paris has definitely a problem.

As a side note, when in Paris, I sometimes (ok, often) take my russian GFs to the famous high-end swinger club Les Chandelles - the decor is superb, and atmosphere really cool (entrance fee is less cool, 90 € for a couple - plus drinks). Not necessarily to participate, but as spectators, and if the mood is right, for public sex. All told me later how crazy and exciting it was, and that they will never forget the experience .......those russian chicks are really naughty - when you know how to manage them.

Post: #140

(05-28-2018 09:49 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  French women are totally not worth it. The country is a liberal disaster, the women are cute but nothing compared to FSU and sophistication is just another byword for an uppity attitude. Go on any online dating site or just talk to to any French girl, they are all "sapiosexual" these days WTF?

Give me 3 months and I can teach a FSU/SEA girls to appreciate fine dining and arts pas de problème, but you can spend 3 centuries and good luck changing French women's attitude.

The social circle culture you talk about is just a mask for bigotry, faggotry and unnecessary drama. God saves me as if the girls here aren't bitchy enough, the guys are bitchier and seem to revel in drama. Everybody is really sleeping with everybody here and every time a girl get passed around there is enough drama for 3 reality series, but the bitch boy she gets passed around to couldn't be happier. It's almost as sex is secondary to drama and gossiping here, people prefer sex within social circle just to have drama because it aint fun to have a ONS with some random guy nobody knows about.

Not too long ago I got out of another fling with a French girl in my Aikido circle, and I gotta say this one has to be my last. The drama isn't worth it. You name the drama, French girls can do it better.

The culture is a joke. I know more about French culture than most girls. It's a replica of USA culture here complete with the French version of Kanye (Maitre Gim), Kim Kardashian and company. The hottest girls tend to be, unfortunately, the white trash girls or arabs girls.

There's a saying among guys here: it's easier to bed a French girl in Madrid/Barca than in France. Go figure.

I'm just here because I like good wine for cheap.

Great post. I concurre 100%
I actually landed the finest french asses when living in the US
Most of my best lays in France were foreigners, international students etc

"Give me 3 months and I can teach a FSU/SEA girls to appreciate fine dining and art"

You don't need to. My russian girls know 100x what the average parisian girl knows.
I was blown away the first time. Even a secretary i banged in Moscow knew tons of poetry by heart, used to walk museums every week, knew about history like nobody.
Boy, i was blown away
Fashion is top notch in Moscow and they travel as much as french girls

Post: #141

(05-28-2018 01:08 PM)Count Pierre Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 12:51 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  Everyone sleeps with everyone

There is a reason why Paris has the highest ratio of swinger clubs in the world. The one who doesn't get laid in Paris has definitely a problem.

As a side note, when in Paris, I sometimes (ok, often) take my russian GFs to the famous high-end swinger club Les Chandelles - the decor is superb, and atmosphere really cool. Not necessarily to participate, but as spectators, and if the mood is right, for public sex. All told me later how crazy (and exciting) it was, and that they will never forget the experience. Those russian chicks are really naughty - when you know how to manage them.

Most of the girls i've banged in my parisian life were foreigners.
It's not hard at all to get laid with a 6 or maybe 7 if you got good game, but for anything in the 8-10 range you will need more than game. Connections or big money

Foreigners i banged had far superior bodies and much better attitude. I started dating french girls when i was living in the US.
But only very high quality. It is actually easier abroad because french women will most of the time prefere dating a french guy rather than an american as bf of husband material. I found this pattern in almost every community in the US. There are plenty of french girls in NYC, but not so many french dudes, hence some favorable conditions for guys like me

There are some FSU girls living in Paris and NYC; i know a bunch. Problem is that they become jaded and entitled after a year because of the pussy/ beta attitude of the guys there. Guys in these cities are ready to fight to the death and spend tons of dollars for sub standard used pussies. No wonder why women all develop bad attitude with time in these places

I know this russian girl in Paris; she's been here for 6 years and really think she's the shit due to westernization and wussies chasing her. This girl would be miserable and lonely in Moscow. Nobody would fuck her. I know much better looking girls in moscow and they complain they can't find boyfriends and many have been single for YEARS. Here she has a full harem of thirsty good looking guys blowing up her phone all year long. Go figure

Post: #142

(05-28-2018 01:37 PM)tzar Wrote:  I know this russian girl in Paris; she's been here for 6 years and really think she's the shit due to westernization and wussies chasing her.

Agree ..... I also know some russian chicks (and some of them top-tier) who live in Paris and who have dozens of french beta guys at their feet begging to please them. But it doesn't mean that it's easy for them to find a suitable guy (i.e a guy who understands the "русская душа"). Many of those girls are indeed continually invited to glam restaurants, high-end clubs, ect (and even to aristocratic parties in mansions or even cattles),, but struggle to find a lover they really mesh well with. For many of them, a provider is enough, but there's exceptions to the rule, and from my experience, the exceptions are not that uncommon.For example, I know this (top-tier) russian girl in Paris, good fuck-friend (and booze friend lol) of mine since many years ; she's been here for 10 years, is continually invited literally everywhere, but always complain that she can't find a "compatible" lover. But of course, as usual, your mileage may vary.

My point was more about russian single tourists in Paris anyway - there's literally tons of them .........as you say, russians love to travel, and especially to Paris.

Post: #143

(05-28-2018 11:35 AM)Count Pierre Wrote:  That said, Paris being Paris -a cosmopolitan city, you have many other options than those french ethnic cunts. There is a big brasilian community (with a good rotation of newcomers), many cap-verdians (and cap verdians chicks can be absolutely stunning), many girls from Reunion Island/French Antilles ethnicity (also, some absolutely stunning and quite easy-going), many black girls from the french Western Africa colonies

I totally agree, I am lucky I am not attracted to these thin white bitches, in my book none of them can compete with a slim thick african or west indies chick. To be honest french guys get what they deserve, many of them (the dudes) are whining cunts, gossiping even more than chicks and being precious like fags, no wonder that many chicks prefer getting their pussy slammed by blacks and arabs.

Overall And despite what is being said here I think the attitude of women is better in Paris than in London, France being a latin country, masculinity is still more valued than in London and women arent gold diggers like there. I am not saying parisian girls are angels but a broke guy who has charm and is not scared of approaching can do serious damage here.

The only thing I miss from London is the brasilian women, they were so many in London, they prefer going there as it is easier to find a job than in Paris. Still haven’t found where to see them in Paris but working on it.

Post: #144

(05-29-2018 08:41 AM)Lino Wrote:  Overall And despite what is being said here I think the attitude of women is better in Paris than in London, France being a latin country, masculinity is still more valued than in London and women arent gold diggers like there. I am not saying parisian girls are angels but a broke guy who has charm and is not scared of approaching can do serious damage here.

You and I must not live in the same Paris. Masculinity here is despised even more than in Anglo countries. The Parisian bobos take pyjama boys to the next level. At least in Murica you can be a redneck. In France if you are white and masculine you are despised and spit upon. A good friend of mine is a white gendarme, he's more or less purple pill, and he got treated like an abomination by the people he is supposed to protect. Guy has quit and is now in the Republican Guard Cavalry division, i.e paper pusher looking pretty.

To illustrate, a RVF I know here tried to get a prescription for a hormone/testoterone test. Faggot doctor refuses to give it to him "why do you need a hormone test? that's suspicious"

About gold diggers? Ask the French members who do SA here to see just how greedy and cunning these french bitches can be?

(05-29-2018 08:41 AM)Lino Wrote:  but a broke guy who has charm and is not scared of approaching can do serious damage here.

basically any Arabs and black rascails then.

Not to sound bitter since I had a lot of fun here in Paris and I only bang white bitches, but the more I grow up the more the drama and vitriol of these girls weight on me. It stopped being fun a long time ago.

I also think it's redundant to say "well Paris has a good international scene". So does Madrid, Barca, Lisbon, Florence. All are cheaper, more fun, less cucked, and with slightly better attitude.

This country is great if you are a young student and can bang all the gauchist pussies while mooching off the government. Thats why I used to love France so much. Now Im working on my exit strategy and Ill stop complaining like a French faggot.

Post: #145

(05-29-2018 09:21 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  This country is great if you are a young student and can bang all the gauchist pussies while mooching off the government. Thats why I used to love France so much. Now Im working on my exit strategy and Ill stop complaining like a French faggot.

That’s indeed the best to do, my perception of things is different as I left Paris 14 years ago, lived in other cities in France then in several other countries so whenever I come to Paris I focus on the positive aspects.

I won’t argue with you regarding the other parts of your message as I used to have a very bad opinion about life in Paris, now that I am older and have more perspective on things I am more able to focus on the positives.

The reason why I left France is not chicks, it is simply because of the culture of mediocrity that is killing this country. If you are smart, really hard worker and are ambitious then It will be tough for you, unless you are one of these « Charles Antoine » who live in the posh neighborhoods and whose daddy has plenty of connections. I am a hard worker and educated self made man and I didn’t see any future for me in France, that’s why I left but that’s off topic.

I am not here to defend Paris or the french women, my point is that coming back from London I find girls in Paris infinitely more charming, open to seduction and not asking immediately what your job is to put you in a box unlike London girls. That’s why I say that you can be broke and still kill it...the comment about arabs and black racailles being tthe only broke dudes achieving this sounds like irony and trolling to me, these uneducated ghettos rats aren’t a threat to any player and most of them are struggling with women.

Post: #146

As a young guy I would take French women over English any day of the week. I guess all of these points above are valid however if we are talking about sexual attraction then French women know how to create it.

Im my experience French girls have 100x more interesting conversations than English girls, they seem much more cultured. They're wit and banter is great, but maybe if I lived in France for a long time it would get tiring quickly. France is unforgivable for a beta guy, French women love to hold their power, e.g. everything is on their terms. When they are abroad game them, it's a treat.

Post: #147

London has a more international scene. That’s why you see a lot of Brazilians but also Colombians and Thais. Not as much in Paris, although there are a lot of tourists but not many actually live here. You might meet some Brazilians in niche locations, for example Latin favoured shops or events, but in general London has a lot more of them. It even has a Brazilian neighbourhood, Kensal Green.

France is ok if you are about right, that is you won’t feel that bad if you don’t have a high flying investment banking job like in London. There is a lot of culture, a lot of interesting things to do, and a lot of your expenses are subsidised. Girls are ok on a global level, not too high not too low, just like your salary and living standards, you won’t starve, but you won’t get rich either. You get comfortable.

Post: #148

Flab factor
I was just in Paris and I went with a very open mind regarding the attractiveness of the women since I like the accent and have met some cute French girls over the years. Sadly, most of the locals are flabby even though they're not outright overweight. A diet heavy with cheese, bread, butter, wine and topped off with chain smoking clearly takes its toll much more than popular culture would have you believe.

French women have very wide hips on average so the prevalent soft flabby glutes look particularly unappealing. Of course there are some beautiful women here and there but too low of a volume to justify the rent and cost of living if the women are your primary objective.

Their English is pretty weak on average, so I believe the advice that French is pretty essential to do well. It sounds like even with French the situation isn't great. It's a cool looking city but it's very expensive and the women need some gym memberships stat.

Cliff notes: If you're into healthy girls and tight butts, move along. Paris is full of flab assed chain smokers.

Post: #149

(04-20-2018 04:44 PM)Rossi Wrote:  French women are terrible. One of the worst in Europe along with Spanish, Italian, Greek and Portuguese.

I Agree, too much mediterranean blood makes women not only unattractive but entitled and arrogant.

The best women in Europe are in NOrthern and Eastern Europe (UK/Ireland excluded).

I find 90% of french women look totally unappealing.

Post: #150

(02-05-2018 08:56 PM)MrRoundtree Wrote:  I think french girls and quebecoises/french canadians are quite different. I tend to miss French Girls from times to times.

At 35 year old and older, French Girls women from France are much hotter than Quebecoises though and remain slim.

French girls still appreciate galanterie, being courteous and a gentleman. Quebecoises like to be flirted as you would flirt an english girl, but in French (as if, she would be one of the guys).

French girls reward guys who approach them and are manly, Quebecoises like to do the work and be in control.

Very accurate observations.