Post: #1

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630304

Two guys run over a suspected solider, chop his head off with machetes, and get shot by armed police

Its being treated as an act of terrorism..based on not much

an eyewwitness account from a twitter user:
http://sabotagetimes.com/social-networki...-shooting/

Non londoners might need a to run his tweets through urban dictionary, however

edit: The govt is now saying the attackers shouted allahu akbar

Post: #2

Our police hanging around once again waiting for a firearm team... female officer shows up and shoots them. 21st century. We have to arm and train our police it's ridiculous. Any other country the first cop and his dog on the scene puts an end to this.

Post: #3

Post: #4

RIP to the soldier.

Those two guys are cowards. No honor whatsoever.

Post: #5

Quote from above: "Its being treated as an act of terrorism..based on not much"

--- The "not much" presmuably being the chants of Allah Akhbar as they hacked the the guy's head off with knives and how they subsequently were filmed ranting about Islam and being at war with non Muslims? This is what has been termed as "domestic terrorism" in that they may not have been part of a proscribed Jihadist terrorist group, but they committed an act of Jihadist terror acting on their own it would appear.

Post: #6

Definitely not an 'act of terrorism'. Just a couple of insane blokes.

Post: #7

The West is utterly retarded. Great Britain, along with the U.S., invades the land of foreign, hostile people and simultaneously invites their compatriots to immigrate into the heart of their country. Recipe for disaster.

The U.S. is lucky the Muslim immigration is low relative to countries like Sweden, UK, Netherlands, France, etc.

Only solution to this madness is to stop occupying the Muslim lands, stop immigration from certain countries, and expel guest workers or illegals from those countries.

Post: #8

Quote:Nico Hines ‏@NicoHines 2h

Jason Puddlefoot, a window cleaner from Woolwich, said he would defend Britain to the death against Muslims pic.twitter.com/LfoKchn6QY

Mum talked down Woolwich terrorists who told her: 'We want to start a war in London tonight
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/t...night.html

Post: #9

I agree with GQ! They're not terrorists, they're just fucked up people who took out their anger on a British soldier. Terrorists organizations wouldn't take out just "one" soldier.

Post: #10

This woman stood up to one of the guys and tried to calm him down.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ingrid-lo...ker-2013-5

Post: #11

That woman has bigger balls than me.

Post: #12

(05-22-2013 05:14 PM)TheRookie Wrote:  The West is utterly retarded. Great Britain, along with the U.S., invades the land of foreign, hostile people and simultaneously invites their compatriots to immigrate into the heart of their country. Recipe for disaster.

The U.S. is lucky the Muslim immigration is low relative to countries like Sweden, UK, Netherlands, France, etc.

Only solution to this madness is to stop occupying the Muslim lands, stop immigration from certain countries, and expel guest workers or illegals from those countries.

This is one of those issues where both the mainstream right and the left are supremely retarded. The right gets angry if you blame our invasions abroad, and the left gets angry if you recognize that it's it's disproportionately Muslims committing these attacks. It's both.

And even if the right is right, that Muslims would hate us without our foreign adventures, we're still pissing away the lives of our soldiers.

Post: #13

Where are the protests???? Imagine if a non-muslim did this to a muslim? The streets in Islamic countries would be packed with marchers demanding for his blood. Opportunists would stir up these people instead of saying, well this s one idiot, so lets leave it as an idiotic thing. Just like the recent Muhammad type movie. A stupid movie,,,,,so place it in the stupid movie category nd don't watch it. Move on......yet, it causes such turmoil.

In Turky, when a catholic priest was murdered, (Andrea Santoro), there were no protests,,,,,,people just saw this an isolated thing and an idiotic thing. Were they wrong? Imagine an imam was murdered in the west like that,,,,,,,watch,,,,there will be countless protests by Muslims.

Post: #14

Truly sad to see lunatics like that roam freely, commit horrendous acts. RIP to the innocent man killed.

Post: #15

(05-22-2013 07:59 PM)cardguy Wrote:  That woman has bigger balls than me.

Remember that picture next time you're experiencing some approach anxiety. Puts it into perspective.

Post: #16

This is something that someone posted on my FB and I thought it was worth to share it in here since it gives a great insight and perspective into what the Muslim world feels that very few in the West get to know or understand. Thoughts?

Quote:You have invaded my country, killed my people, stealing my resources, drone my kids and when I speak against it you label me "terrorist" but when two guys who unfortunately share Islamic belief while hardly representing anything from Islam kill two English men majority of your people (UK) starts threatening and intends to kill Muslims and further more wants Muslims to be killed, now imagine what's the difference between your people and those people fighting your troops in Afghanistan or in Iraq?

The only difference is that Muslims didn't came with weapons and are not droning your people nor are they supporting dictators and puppet governments and that your people (the racists and fascists) don't have guns like Taliban or any other group who could go around in killing Muslims.

You want Muslims to get the hell out of your country because of "violence" that they create but at the same time you want the Muslims to accept your troops in their countries? You don't want violence in your country but support killing, murdering, terrorizing my people? Where is justice in this?

These two guys do not represent Islam or Muslim and we condemn such violence but the point is do you condemn and stand against the violence of your government and military in our countries?

.

Post: #17

My reply to that post is: no, i don't wan't to kill any of you, i just want to ring fence you and then you'll take care of each other.

Post: #18

It has to be said - if the man they killed was indeed a British soldier and if they made no attempt to attack civilians, does this really constitute an act of terrorism? The same could be said of the Fort Hood shooting in the states.

Personally, despicable as it is, I don't consider it terrorism when civilians are neither targeted nor become collateral casualties.

But then I don't agree that terrorists are any more threatening or diabolical than a non-politically motivated serial killer, psychotic mass shooter, or homicidal gang member. If these same dudes were spouting off about space aliens or Mayan end of the world prophecies after killing this man, it would drop off the news and be treated as a random act of violence. But because their motivation is political in nature it rises to the standard of terrorism and becomes a national emergency, even though they in all likelihood acted in isolation. Sorry, I don't buy it. It should be enough that a man's dead and these killers should be brought to justice - and hanged if Britain still retained capital punishment as it should.

Post: #19

Repeat it with me, kids, "Islam is a religion of peace".

Post: #20

A lot more discussion about Islam in this thread:

/thread-24014.html

Post: #21

This goes in the category of insane people latching onto something and one day snapping. Islam just directed the insanity.

However, they do not seem to be psychotic. They keep relatively calm. And just stand there? Strange times.

Post: #22

Some of the the commets above are rather curious; to the effect of "this has nothing to do with Islam" and that is evidenced by how the two butchers in question were both Muslim, targeted an unarmed soldier, tried to behead him Jihadist style and made long Salafist style speeches about political Islam (the one filmed above is only one of them) and also threatened non Muslims with more violence.

As for the claims that this act of savagery which was motivated entirely by IslamoNazi hatred of non Muslims "wasn't an act of terrorism" - I suppose anything that doesn't involve aircraft being hijacked and flown in to large buildings under the personal supervision of the leader of Al Qaeda "isn't an act of terrorism" now?

The same sort of apologist nonsense is usually trotted out by ill informed liberal activists after atrocities committed by Jihadists, saying that "Islam was just an excuse they used" or; "they are not real Muslims." Never mind the fact that Salafists and Wahabbists spend their lives studying the Koran and their hatred and terrorism is entirely motivated by Islam and their interpretation of the koran is just more literal and devoted than that espoused by other Muslims. One of their favourite trademarks is the slow hacking off of the head of their victims with often relatively small knives. This act which they justify by reference to Koranic teachings is the ultimate act of terror; it is designed to instill fear and literal terror in those who do not agree with them.

Post: #23

To my knowledge UK forces were never in Somalia in a fighting capacity. This kind of savagery is what we get for letting these people into our country? The guy obviously doesn't even dislike being in the UK, his beef is only with soldiers (as if those don't act in the publics interest).

This is terrorism because it incites fear and reactionary violence. And it's working. How could you not be angry after witnessing something like this? People trying to go torch a mosque last night? That's not exactly an unreasonable or unexpected reaction.

Where's the video of the police shooting these two guys? I can't believe no one's filmed that. In this case, I actually think it's in the public interest to see these two scumbags getting shot. It would certainly put my mind at ease. The guys needed to be put down like rabid dogs.

Post: #24

Zak: Your points are all 100% valid. But why wouldn't they try and inflict more damage if they weren't crazy? If they assume they'll be apprehended for the act regardless.. That makes no sense and leads me to thinking they are mentally unstable and would have done crazy shit regardless. Or just comically stupid and short term in their thinking.

Edit: Or they chose the media attention instead. It wasn't about inflicting damage, but just a spectacle of brutality.

Post: #25

He looks Somalian, don't know why we let those cunts in our country when they were killing each other, should have left them to it as they now commit a high level of crime in London in comparison to any other ethnicity.

(05-22-2013 07:37 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  I agree with GQ! They're not terrorists, they're just fucked up people who took out their anger on a British soldier. Terrorists organizations wouldn't take out just "one" soldier.

It's classed as a terrorist act, hunting down and killing a soldier on the streets of the UK is terrorism. They aren't fucked up, they knew exactly what they were doing, they asked people to take pictures and record them for fuck sake. It was in broad daylight, to show exactly what kind of people they are and to serve as "a warning".

Quote:The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

That's the definition of terrorism, Islam being the ideology.