Post: #3826

Last night was fucking strange.

I'm at a pre game party and hitting it off with my friend's cousin. She's a pretty blonde from Cali with a good body, probably a 7.5. There were plenty of solid options at the party. Then, my friend comes up to me and says, "KeyserSoze, my cousin is into you. It's a go. Just treat her like a lady", and so on. Then, I find out she just got out of a two year relationship this week. This girl was fucking psychotic.

In our original conversation, to make a joke, I gave her a slight neg and said, "Oh let me guess, Barefoot Moscato? Typical freshman girl drink", with a joking smirk. Later, we were walking to another friend's place, periodically stopping to make out. She was all over me. Then, she got really weird and called me an asshole (clearly a drunken projection of how she feels about her ex and men in general). She said "you think I'm just some 'typical freshman girl'. I know you. You're a player". I internally agreed but brushed it off verbally. She continued, "Oh, you're gonna be some big doctor. You're hot. You can get any girl you want. Why are you with me? Just leave me alone". She got angry for no fucking reason at all. She tried storming off on me, pretty much begging me to chase her, which I had to do because she doesn't go to my school and I had to take care of her, per se. She would get angry, then compliment me and make out with me, then switch back to anger.

I was trying to calm her down but it was annoying. So I eventually got pissed, said "fuck this. I'm done. I'm taking you back to your cousin". Then, her attitude switched real quick and she started apologizing and kissing me all over. I then suggested we go to the bar. So, we get there, find a little spot, and she's making out with me more. It's going well, finally. Subsequently, she is flirting with every fucking guy she sees. I went to grab a drink, came back and she was all over another guy. I was really annoyed and grabbed her, and she began passionately making out with me at the bar. I told her I didn't play games and wasn't gonna sit around while she flirted with others the whole time. She said, "what are you so worried about, you know I'm going home with you". Whatever, we split for a bit and I talked to some other chicks. Things were going decently, but I was dead set on fucking this girl because she 100% wanted it earlier. I eventually found her again, and she was literally throwing herself at these guys. I was still holding onto the hope that she was for sure going home with me, like she said. When the bar closed and it was time to leave, she wanted nothing to do with me. She wouldn't even talk to me. She just said to her friend, "Oh - hot guy, lets go talk to him". I did not go home with her.

Ultimately, I struck out. The girl told me she was into me, spent hours with me, heavily making out and so forth. Then, we got to the bar, and she wanted to fuck everyone there. She got mad at me because I seemed like a player. Then, I told her I was into her, and she wanted nothing to do with me. Still not quite sure what I did to piss her off. Oh well, it was her first night out after a two year relationship. I should've known she was going to be crazy. It was frustrating, but you live and you learn I guess.

Post: #3827

(10-19-2014 11:13 PM)keysersoze Wrote:  Ultimately, I struck out. The girl told me she was into me, spent hours with me, heavily making out and so forth. Then, we got to the bar, and she wanted to fuck everyone there. She got mad at me because I seemed like a player. Then, I told her I was into her, and she wanted nothing to do with me. Still not quite sure what I did to piss her off. Oh well, it was her first night out after a two year relationship. I should've known she was going to be crazy. It was frustrating, but you live and you learn I guess.

Sounds like a chick with anger issues, or a personality disorder. Nice call on the "drunken projection," that's definitely what's going on.

"The girl told me she was into me, spent hours with me, heavily making out and so forth. Then, we got to the bar, and she wanted to fuck everyone there."

This goes back to the original gamesters - her "consistency" is to her immediate feelings, so she probably truly wanted to fuck you hours before, then truly wanted to flirt with other guys. There's no sense of "follow through" with young drunk chicks.

"She got mad at me because I seemed like a player."

Even though preselection is the real deal, and women tend to want a guy who's better than them, a lot of girls get very anxious when they aren't in the position of control. A confirmed player represents loss of control in two ways: he's obviously skilled enough to get her in the sack, and he has options with other women if it doesn't go well with her.

"Then, I told her I was into her, and she wanted nothing to do with me."

Another phenomenon that is old as the game itself

"Still not quite sure what I did to piss her off."

I don't think you were a person in her mind; you were more like a abstract symbol of her ex or the lifestyle she had or the sense of sexual control she's trying to gain back.

I've noticed at my watering holes that when girls starting crossing over from "had a couple drinks" to "buzzed," they start reacting emotionally and instantaneously to social stimuli, over-reacting to jibes and jokes that they take personally, and treating people (especially men) like ghosts of other people they are pissed at.

Post: #3828

Currently working on getting a chick from online to drive four hours to come see me. Just for shits and giggles.

"Why do you want to climb Everest Mr Mallory?"
"Because it's there" - Mallory

"Why are you trying to game a chick four hours away Anti?"
"Because shes there"


heres to hoping its not a SIF or Tranny.

Post: #3829

Online long distance is fun and actually works sometimes.

A few months ago I started messaging a chick 5 hours away. We kept in touch over several months and I've banged her twice when she's been in my area for work.

Targeting girls in cities you might be traveling to anyway works well or sometimes you get lucky and the girl has some reason to travel to your area.

It's also easier to get nudes from these girls because you are more of a fantasy and she's not worried you might know someone she knows.

Post: #3830

I've been having a high-level problem.

My main girl is in my eyes a 8.5 (maybe even a 9).

I can't even bother to hit it off w/another girl unless shes a 7+ or extremely into me. Any sign of attitude or resistance and I am gone.

The exception is girls who are 8.5/9 territory (rare as it is).

Its a combo of different factors, like a hot girl being extremely receptive but a decent looking girl being dismissive. AND I believe my desire (or lack thereof) showing through.

Whats your guys thoughts...

Post: #3831

I read somewhere on this forum about this, and think it is actually true. A lot of 5/6/7s are gamed and bedded by more guys than 8/9s but also dumped by more guys. Eventually this makes their shield go up and takes away that niceness.

Post: #3832

(10-20-2014 10:30 AM)DVY Wrote:  I've been having a high-level problem.

My main girl is in my eyes a 8.5 (maybe even a 9).

I can't even bother to hit it off w/another girl unless shes a 7+ or extremely into me. Any sign of attitude or resistance and I am gone.

The exception is girls who are 8.5/9 territory (rare as it is).

Its a combo of different factors, like a hot girl being extremely receptive but a decent looking girl being dismissive. AND I believe my desire (or lack thereof) showing through.

Whats your guys thoughts...

Your tastes and needs are changing. Seems like you're filtering out alot more and are sniping exactly what you want. While this will bring quality it obviously doesn't bring quantity (it depends personally on you).

I've noticed I'm only shooting for hotter girls and I get bored fast with a dtf 6 or 7. The "hunt" of new pussy does get me going, especially if its with a 7+.

Post: #3833

6s and below are nothing more than something warmer than a plastic fuck doll. They get pumped and dumped throughout their entire life. That's why a lot of are frigid bitches.

8s and 9s don't get approached much. But these chicks KNOW they are hot. Especially in the twitter/instagram/fb generation. They get reminded constantly. Some of them let that go to their heads.

I just cut off 8.5-9 off last night. She just had that "I'm soooo hot everyone loves me and will do anything for me" mindset. Just got too much to put up. Even as I broke it off she was kept it up, saying stuff "hahahaha you'll miss me, mark my words".

Nexted. It hurts, I did have some legitimate feelings for her. But she acted way to much. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze. I'm sure I'll get some late night drunk texts and phone calls in the next few days.

Post: #3834

(10-20-2014 12:11 AM)BadgerHut Wrote:  Sounds like a chick with anger issues, or a personality disorder. Nice call on the "drunken projection," that's definitely what's going on.

This goes back to the original gamesters - her "consistency" is to her immediate feelings, so she probably truly wanted to fuck you hours before, then truly wanted to flirt with other guys. There's no sense of "follow through" with young drunk chicks.

Even though preselection is the real deal, and women tend to want a guy who's better than them, a lot of girls get very anxious when they aren't in the position of control. A confirmed player represents loss of control in two ways: he's obviously skilled enough to get her in the sack, and he has options with other women if it doesn't go well with her.

Another phenomenon that is old as the game itself

I don't think you were a person in her mind; you were more like a abstract symbol of her ex or the lifestyle she had or the sense of sexual control she's trying to gain back.

I've noticed at my watering holes that when girls starting crossing over from "had a couple drinks" to "buzzed," they start reacting emotionally and instantaneously to social stimuli, over-reacting to jibes and jokes that they take personally, and treating people (especially men) like ghosts of other people they are pissed at.

Excellent points. I was drunk and she was hot, so I didn't really understand or want to accept the emotional volatility of a girl fresh out of a LTR. Looking back on it, I was just a symbol, like you said - an archetype for the "shittyness" of men, in her eyes.

I really should've pulled something before going to the bar. Definitely a learning experience in game. Nothing is guaranteed, especially when mass quantities of alcohol are involved. When we were making out and she was grabbing my dick, I should've pushed for sex. My apartment was only 100 yards away. Unfortunately, I foolishly thought it was a slam dunk, guaranteed lay.

I did drunkenly let me "guard" down a little. I thought, because of her recent breakup, she wanted me to present myself as a nicer, less threatening guy, so I did. This might've cost me in the end. Your last point is absolutely correct looking back on the situation.[/quote]

Post: #3835

Yea but all that shit goes out of the window when I look back on my past. I was genuinely interested in the 6-7 girl, and I would swoop them after a date or two. Now, the 6-7 girls blow me off. The hedonism treadmill is a bitch.

Maybe they know that I just want to hit it and quit it. Despite what the forum says about the cock carousel, no girl wants to actively know she is doing it. She just riding the ride to get the end goal- a BF

Post: #3836

(10-20-2014 12:24 PM)DVY Wrote:  Yea but all that shit goes out of the window when I look back on my past. I was genuinely interested in the 6-7 girl, and I would swoop them after a date or two. Now, the 6-7 girls blow me off. The hedonism treadmill is a bitch.

Maybe they know that I just want to hit it and quit it. Despite what the forum says about the cock carousel, no girl wants to actively know she is doing it. She just riding the ride to get the end goal- a BF

I think this is a fantastic explanation of the phenomenon. Sure, some college sorority girl types truly just love fucking many men, but there are plenty who put out for validation and emotional fulfillment, as empty as it may be.

This doesn't mean they're not sluts, it's just their rationalization.

Post: #3837

Exactly. they are dying for those 60 mins [insert number] of validation and to feel fulfilled emotionally. If you cuddle after, they will call you again and again.

Post: #3838

I finally had the chance to talk to this girl that works at the gym. She is usually cold when i try to talk to her behind the counter but she smiles and locks eye contact with me for an extra 2-3 seconds when she gives me my locker key with a big smile.

had a mate that was interested in the gym so i ask her to give us a tour. she was giggling and laughing at nearly everything i was saying. alot of good energy and paying me attention and not my mate. the only thing is when she was near the stairs and had her foot on the edge, i put my hand on her hand and said 'watch your step.' she pulled her hand away quickly...

i don't know how to judge it... i think she is doesn't like physical contact and a little shy (18 y/o cutie) cause when i bring my locker key back after my workout in the past and tries to grab it and i end up circling her hand, she doesn't play back and grabs my car keys and give it back to me!

i'm planning to go for the kill when i see her next and get her number!

i had to polish up on my 'shy girl' game! found a great video on youtube, 10/13 correct.

http://youtu.be/hN6H5SmPW_g

Post: #3839

Need some logistics advice gents.

Got date number 2 coming up this Friday with a cute little asian (4'11", so freaking small!) but taking her back to my place is not possible.
We had a good first date, she was receptive from the word go and I got plenty of kino going and making out at the end. She gave a bit of LMR but it was token. Couldn't take her back to my place that night unfortunately as I think I could have gotten the SNL pretty easy.

So the bang should be pretty easy this date, especially with a friday night and some drinks, but I need somewhere to go.
I guess the easiest option should be going back to her place but I've not done this before so I'm not sure what hurdles I should be prepared for. Advice?

Post: #3840

I asked the girl that works at my gym out today. She was doing most of the talking, showing interest and giggling a lot like the other night! She caught me off guard when i ask if she partied and she said no, how about drink... no... than i went for the kill. "well... give me your number and we can hang out sometime" .... the other thing that was fucking bad was after my workout, i couldn't speak cause i was still catching my breath so my words didn't flow...

Her comfort level is about 90% with me. i'm built the rapport and made her feel comfortable. even when i asked for her number, she giggle again, smiled and said "no" energy was great but yeh... next time i see her, just not going to pay her really any attention.... NEXT!!!

I'm kind of in shock... girls that give me that much energy, giggling all the time, doing most of the talking usually equal BANG. she might have a boyfriend but fuck it... NEXT...

Post: #3841

How do you guys balance your game and your real life obligations?

I find myself losing a lot of prospects simply because i have times where im too busy to do the initial leg work for prospects. Game is a second job, almost. Finding leads, texting them, scheduling things with girls you haven't met yet, dealing with flakes txt blasting old prospects, entertaining new girls via txt.

Game is one of my most frivolous low return hobbies.

Post: #3842

(10-22-2014 02:50 AM)PaulM Wrote:  I asked the girl that works at my gym out today. She was doing most of the talking, showing interest and giggling a lot like the other night! She caught me off guard when i ask if she partied and she said no, how about drink... no... than i went for the kill. "well... give me your number and we can hang out sometime" .... the other thing that was fucking bad was after my workout, i couldn't speak cause i was still catching my breath so my words didn't flow...

Her comfort level is about 90% with me. i'm built the rapport and made her feel comfortable. even when i asked for her number, she giggle again, smiled and said "no" energy was great but yeh... next time i see her, just not going to pay her really any attention.... NEXT!!!

I'm kind of in shock... girls that give me that much energy, giggling all the time, doing most of the talking usually equal BANG. she might have a boyfriend but fuck it... NEXT...

Or she could just be a girl who likes the attention and is very used to guys hitting on her at the gym.
If you're a semi decent looking PT/gym employee you must get hit on all the time and probably by guys better look and/or more buff than you.

Hitting on a PT at the gym is like hitting on a bar tender.

Post: #3843

AntiTrace Wrote:  8s and 9s don't get approached much. But these chicks KNOW they are hot. Especially in the twitter/instagram/fb generation. They get reminded constantly. Some of them let that go to their heads.

I find it incredible the magnitude of validation modern social media websites provide for good looking chicks, or even not-great-looking-with-boobs. They act as if a high follower count actually represents some type of badge of honor, that should be respected. They can't see the fact that men are just usually horny, and horny guys like pictures of tits and ass. Simple as that.

There is nothing to be respected about sexy (or any) girls objectifying themselves. Which the feminists then complain about, but only when the objectification is done by the media, and the girls won't be receiving "likes" for the objectification. Then it is evil and it must be stopped.

I swear there are more girls are on tinder because they can exploit it to advertise their Instagram and Twitter accounts, than for actual finding and consideration or potential mates. And I'm sure there are hoards of thirsty betas happy to take the bait, only reaffirming the attention-whore's bad behavior.

Post: #3844

Quote:Or she could just be a girl who likes the attention and is very used to guys hitting on her at the gym.
If you're a semi decent looking PT/gym employee you must get hit on all the time and probably by guys better look and/or more buff than you.

Hitting on a PT at the gym is like hitting on a bar tender.

One of my mates said the same, most guys would hit on her at the gym.

For the last 6 months i never bothered to talk to her and showed her very little attention. In the last couple months, i've been building rapport with her slowly where in the last week her comfort level is around 80% where she is laughing and giggling all the time. so i thought i would go for the kill

so how do u pickup a bar tender? i never bother due to the reason that every guy would be asking her out! i need a better game! any suggestions?

btw the way, i'm pretty buffed! 6 foot, 85kg, 10% body fat! been hitting the gym on and off for about 15 years!

Post: #3845

I noticed my filter and tastes are going up:

Girl 1: A cutie 7.5 OKC wanted meet up but me drive to her last week, I didn't bother responding.

Did a restart text, and she was closer (thinking she'd drive to me). Of course not - she wanted me to drive to her, I countered with a strong, no I'm driving from work > to home > to you ? Nah you can meet me halfway.

She said "lol it's cool. next time"

For someone who sure wants to meet me, she's putting up alot of resistance. She's complaining "but I have to drive out of my way, not the business"

Bitch and you don't think I have to ?

If she's this difficult now, how will she be after I meet her ? The logic, I swear. NEXT.

Girl 2: Regular FWB's, the sex is alright, sucks a mean dick, but my god is she stupid. I can't have a convo (then again it's not like i'm fucking her mind). It's just annoying - I only bang when it's convenient but I'm getting over it.

Girl 3: She's the one I had a threesome with, we haven't banged since then, but she doesn't take care of herself down there. I'm kind over this one too.

I gotta rebuild my pipeline.

Post: #3846

I'm with Kaotic. I've nexted bitches over the smallest shit lately. Sometime my drunk weak mind gets to me and I hit them back up though haha.

I'm also getting opened a lot on online dating, and have girls saying crazy stuff about how hot I am, how they don't think I'm real, etc. This is all new, my photos haven't changed (my profile has a bit), and it's came from multiple attractive girls. However, they are giving me stiff resistance to meeting up. If I go through my recent text messages, I have about 10 that I'm working. only 2-3 are going anywhere.

I think I'm overloading myself with new numbers and my text/phone game is suffering.

It's all good. I got two good fuckbuddies right now. Winter is gonna be a rebuilding time for me, as the pussy normally has a tendancy to dry up then. When the snow hits the ground, the pussy can't be found. Use the winter to focus on working out, a small side hustle, and a business venture that will require tons of work but has the potential to be massive. I'll keep my fuck buddies around, continue day game when I'm out and about, and keep a small online game presence....in case one the fuck buddies disappears for whatever reason.

Post: #3847

Just got off the phone with a stripper friend. She's freaking out because she's in a new city visiting her family and can't strip because the club wants to see her social security card. I laughed at her so hard.


#stripperproblems

Post: #3848

Foot in mouth.

Texted a girl telling her to meet me for drinks.

She replied "I can't tonight I'm sorry, four deaths in the family recently, it's been hell"

Thinking she lying I reply: "Must've been one hell of a fiery minivan wreck"

She replied: "SUV actually. goodbye asshole"

Post: #3849

(10-22-2014 03:59 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  Foot in mouth.

Texted a girl telling her to meet me for drinks.

She replied "I can't tonight I'm sorry, four deaths in the family recently, it's been hell"

Thinking she lying I reply: "Must've been one hell of a fiery minivan wreck"

She replied: "SUV actually. goodbye asshole"

A girl told me she got in accident the morning before our date.

I said "pics or it didn't happen" - of course I didn't get a response.

Post: #3850

Why do I feel anxiety again after having done hundreds of approaches?
Last week I was on fire and today I've been having anxiety approaching and messed up because of it.