Post: #10051

(07-30-2017 08:39 AM)glugger Wrote:  Has anyone turned down sex with someone they were only borderline attracted to, even on a dry spell?

Met up with this girl last night, went back to hers, but didn't seal the deal because I was too drunk.

Wake up, and had every chance to fuck her but couldn't bring myself to do it. Maybe my standards are too high or my pride too big.

That's not out of the ordinary. When you're drunk, bad ideas become good ideas and unfortunate looking women seem attractive.

Men on this forum turn down sex all the time. A lot of these dudes are more quality focused. Probably why you didn't want to settle for mediocrity.

If you don't want to fuck a girl, you have no obligation to do so.

Post: #10052

Something occurred to me the other day. I'm mid-30s, so I've seen a few divorced moms, though I've only met the children of one women who I saw for over a year. I realized even being mid-30s, I'm finding things that peel back little parts of my naiveté/innocence.

In this case, that loser guy you see in movies who comes around and fucks the single/divorced mother of two...that's me. I don't think I'm a loser, Just a loser from my more naïve perspective. (I mean, I do think a guy should have kids at some point with a good woman, but my child-self used to think of this guy as scum bad person, which is obviously preposterous.

Red pill is a process. Just like when it occurred to me that the 'douchebag' guy people didn't like was actually the dude bangin' the hotties, I realized the dude fucking the divorced moms is just meeting a need.

Post: #10053

hear me out;

Have you ever matched with a porn star on Tinder? Especially for you guys in LA or Miami.

Yes, I have matched a bunch of times with accounts with photos of porn stars that are obviously fake. But lets say you are swiping in the San Fernando Valley, or Miami South Beach. Then you connect with and start chatting with the profile with the porn star pics. And lets say its a not so big name porn star, not from the US. But you're a fan. And then you start chatting with the profile, it shows that it has a distinct accent, English like the country of origin. You ask her to go out and she says she cant go out in public. I asked if I was being catfished and she said no.

Now, I am not stupid, I dont get scammed, I've never gotten robbed or taken, etc. I am not a cam girl guy, etc.. But has this scenario ever happened to anyone? Your swiping in an area known for porn stars, and you think you connect with one?

Post: #10054

(07-31-2017 05:09 PM)Vaun Wrote:  hear me out;
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Then you connect with and start chatting with the profile with the porn star pics. And lets say its a not so big name porn star, not from the US. But you're a fan.

Is remembering porn star names something that comes from having subscriptions to paid websites?

It has confused me that people would search for a porn star for my entire adult life.

When I search for porn I look for topics (e.g. gay midgets on tricycles) instead of specific actors (e.g. Slick Spreadum Jr.)

It really bugs me that I don't understand why people behave this way. I had been explaining the existence of people who memorize porn star names as men who are some sort of waifu pillow tier weebs, but the sudden emergence of a highly repped RVF in that group shatters my neatly constructed perception.

So what's the deal with memorizing porn stars?

Post: #10055

^ only ones I've memorized are those I have met in person. Carter Cruise is fun as hell to hang out with, a very genuine person.

Post: #10056

(07-31-2017 05:40 PM)storm Wrote:  

(07-31-2017 05:09 PM)Vaun Wrote:  hear me out;
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Then you connect with and start chatting with the profile with the porn star pics. And lets say its a not so big name porn star, not from the US. But you're a fan.

Is remembering porn star names something that comes from having subscriptions to paid websites?

It has confused me that people would search for a porn star for my entire adult life.

When I search for porn I look for topics (e.g. gay midgets on tricycles) instead of specific actors (e.g. Slick Spreadum Jr.)

It really bugs me that I don't understand why people behave this way. I had been explaining the existence of people who memorize porn star names as men who are some sort of waifu pillow tier weebs, but the sudden emergence of a highly repped RVF in that group shatters my neatly constructed perception.

So what's the deal with memorizing porn stars?

It's like liking to fuck the same girl. You just jack off to a girl or two you prefer rather than picking a category that may result in a not so hot video. It's all about consistency.

Post: #10057

(07-31-2017 05:40 PM)storm Wrote:  

(07-31-2017 05:09 PM)Vaun Wrote:  hear me out;
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Then you connect with and start chatting with the profile with the porn star pics. And lets say its a not so big name porn star, not from the US. But you're a fan.

Is remembering porn star names something that comes from having subscriptions to paid websites?

It has confused me that people would search for a porn star for my entire adult life.

When I search for porn I look for topics (e.g. gay midgets on tricycles) instead of specific actors (e.g. Slick Spreadum Jr.)

It really bugs me that I don't understand why people behave this way. I had been explaining the existence of people who memorize porn star names as men who are some sort of waifu pillow tier weebs, but the sudden emergence of a highly repped RVF in that group shatters my neatly constructed perception.

So what's the deal with memorizing porn stars?

You can know the names of a few pornstars who are your type without being mesmorized by them. ..its pretty normal actually. Shit even many girls could name a couple pornstars if they had to.

Post: #10058

(07-31-2017 09:21 AM)Remington Wrote:  

(07-30-2017 08:39 AM)glugger Wrote:  Has anyone turned down sex with someone they were only borderline attracted to, even on a dry spell?

Met up with this girl last night, went back to hers, but didn't seal the deal because I was too drunk.

Wake up, and had every chance to fuck her but couldn't bring myself to do it. Maybe my standards are too high or my pride too big.

That's not out of the ordinary. When you're drunk, bad ideas become good ideas and unfortunate looking women seem attractive.

Men on this forum turn down sex all the time. A lot of these dudes are more quality focused. Probably why you didn't want to settle for mediocrity.

If you don't want to fuck a girl, you have no obligation to do so.

Shit a few pages ago I was disgusted at myself for a good while for taking home a mediocre chick that was below par for me. It just doesn't feel good to fuck girls you don't find attractive after the fact.

Drunk people make stupid mistakes.

Post: #10059

A couple observations:

- No bra is coming back
- Thongs are coming back

Post: #10060

(08-01-2017 11:08 AM)heavy Wrote:  A couple observations:

- No bra is coming back
- Thongs are coming back

Went to a beach bar on Sunday with a FWB that did both of those

Post: #10061

Follow on my last post:

I ended up banging the School Teacher 2 Sundays ago - and my god I must've been drunk horny, because I burned through 3 condoms with that bitch who loved being choked and loved sucking my dick.

Best part was, I can tell she was a feminist who hates Trump and here I was balls deep in her, choking her and making her call me daddy.

Went on a few more dates last week:

Tuesday -24 year old chinese girl - she was super sweet, dressed feminine....but she's more than the "thick" that I like, she was pretty aggressive with kissing and has pursed me twice to hangout - I "might" hangout with her again.

Weds-29 year old mexican girl, tiny, petite, but definitely seemed a bit odd, maybe nerdy, maybe just weird. We had some decent convo, made out with her, she has her tongue pierced

Thurday - Fucked my indian plate

Friday - I banged the Weds girl, tight to say the least for being so small - however, SHE DOESN'T SUCK DICK - immediately turned off by that - might rebang one more time so she doesn't think she's a fuck n chuck.



Saturday was a boat part in the bay - got absolutely hammered before we even got on the boat, I helped get the party and the dancing started - got off the boat went to another bar, then ubered to a strip club.

I'm not a fan of strip clubs so I had the webcam girl come pick me up, she was 20 minutes from me, then she drove me home about 45 minutes.

We fucked for awhile, I've never done this, but I have her 3 orgasms back to back that we both refer to as a hat trick and I left pretty bad bruise from my whip -oops.

Sunday - Day drank turned into a full on bender which ended up at a local bar pulling one of the bartenders numbers after I showed a quick line dancing move, we'll call her Italy.

She even said that she sees me with different girls at her bar (game recognized) - since she gave me her number after, dance with me some more.

She wanted me to come and crash at her friends house that we were with, but I was too fucking tired and wanted to wake up at home.

She'll be a slow burn type game, I'm friends with her coworker and she told me that Italy just broke up with her bf. Obviously thirsty guys will be jumping all over her - me on the other hand I'm playing it cool, I've got options.


Last night I went on a pretty cool date with a tall dirty blonde 7 - bright blue eyes also.

Venue 1 was standard see how we vibe, she was nervous a bit, and she basically chugged her beer compared to my drink.

Venue 2 we walked past the fountain first then into the venue. All the regular girls were working and the manager said what's up to me.

They already knew what I was drinking and my date seemed impressed.

The cutest bartender walked up to me and showed me a receipt she just got from a customer.

The dude wrote "Let's hangout -smiley face- number" .......with a 0 tip.

We just about died laughing - but it gets better - he was on a date with a chick/gf.

Here's something telling about the girls around me as we were talking about this guy.

One said, "let's see if this guy is attractive enough to pull this off" - the other girls agreed.

Turned out this guy wasn't that attractive and he was poorly dressed - his girl was dating down.

I'm not gonna knock a guy for trying.



Anyways my date is going good, she's warming up to me and we're connecting more.

I notice this cute little latina has been giving me eyes from across the bar - as my date goes to the bathroom - she looks at me and uses the standard, "you look familiar" line.

I shrug and say, "the bear" - "oh no we must hit the same bars" "yeah probably - from the looks of it you girls are going hard for a monday!"

They were taking yager bomb shots.

We chat up a bit more and my date comes back.

We bounce and walk out to our cars - she gives me a hug and holds on for awhile - I pull away a bit and she immediately grabs my waist and starts kissing me aggressively.

I'll admit I was a bit surprised - something tells me there's definitely some repressed sexual needs of hers.

Either way she's definitely a girl I'll bring around again.


I've hit up other leads - some died off - some just don't make my dick hard - but then you'll get a 19 year old Filipino's number.

Got a date tommorow with a cute little redhead who seems chill.

I won't be doing 4-5 dates a week right now, in fact I'll be working late probably 2 or 3 days this week to get caught up before my vacation coming up next week.


Cheers !

Post: #10062

Met up with a Tinder girl that I have been talking to for a little over a week. We really hit it off over texts. She actually has a sick, twisted sense of humor like me so we've been going back and forth just trying to one up each other. She looks way better in person. Easily a 7-7.5.

We meet up at the bar in a Restaurant in her home town, which was a good drive for me (she had her ACL totally reconstructed last week, so she can't really drive far). And even though she is wearing this big brace on her leg, I still think I can pull the bang (albeit being very gentle). I have a couple of drinks and she has like 3 Long Island's and 2 beers. She is pretty drunk. I'm having fun and the conversation is good but at this point I'm getting tired and ready to head back home. However she's a little drunk at this point and I can tell she wants me to come over. She has mentioned random sex topics a few times so I know she is thinking about it. I tell her I'll follow her back to her place, and as soon as we walk out of the restaurant we start kissing. "Ok, it's on" I'm thinking. So I head to my car.

She lives pretty close. When we get to her house, she makes herself another drink and asks me if I want one and I tell her I'm good. She turns on Netflix and we sit on her couch in her living room. More kissing. She is starting to put up some LMR, and even says multiple times "We're not having sex". Now, as most of us know this is code for "We are fucking" and this has been totally true in my experiences. I start to play with her nipples (she says she loves it when her nipples are pulled/bitten really hard)...biting them and sucking on her tits. I stick my hand down her pants (mind you, she still is wearing this big ass leg brace). No panties. She won't let me finger her at first, but I am able to put my hand between her legs. After a bit more LMR on fingering her, I have gotten her pretty wet just by sucking on her tits and rubbing her thighs. I am finally able to finger her. But this goes on for a good 30-45 minutes or so and I'm getting hard, then soft, then hard, then soft with all this foreplay. I make a light push to move it to her bedroom and she doesn't outright say "no" but she doesn't seem in a hurry to move it to there either. At this point it's past midnight and I'm 30 minutes from home and all I can think about is having to wake up at 6am. Not to mention all this cock teasing is getting me frustrated. Finally, I tell her I'm going home. She asks when we can see each other again and we make plans for her to come to my place on Thursday.

I get up and walk towards the door and it gets ramped up a few levels. She is sticking her hand down my pants, kissing my neck. I finger her some more...making a Hail Mary attempt that her LMR will finally crumble and she'll invite me up to her room. But it doesn't seem to work. She saying she doesn't want me to leave, blah blah. I'm not going to beg for pussy so I tell her I'll see her Thursday.

So now here I am hours later and I'm not sure where I went wrong. All the signs for the bang were there. She was drunk, she said several times: "We're not having sex", she talked about sexual topics periodically through the night, she asked me multiple times if I liked her (I played coy on this and didn't give her too much validation), heavy foreplay and her pussy was soaking wet. Of course my male hamster thinks maybe it was she didn't want to be another Tinder girl who I fucked on the first night (she asked me earlier how many Tinder girls I fucked on the first night and I had to lie on this of course). Perhaps it was her big leg brace she had on? I don't know. Maybe I should have made a stronger push to move it to her bedroom. Or maybe she just didn't want to fuck.

As I'm typing this she just texted me: "Did you dream of my sweet tasting pussy last night?"
I reply: "Nope"

Post: #10063

For girls like this the shutdown/takeaway works great. It's like you only need to show you are willing to leave without sex. Then her hamster suddenly feels you respect her enough to end the date without banging her and she can now justify sex. That's why when you actually decided to leave she was ready to go. At that point I would have just pulled it out. Follow up with "just the tip" if necessary.

Post: #10064

(07-31-2017 05:40 PM)storm Wrote:  

(07-31-2017 05:09 PM)Vaun Wrote:  hear me out;
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Then you connect with and start chatting with the profile with the porn star pics. And lets say its a not so big name porn star, not from the US. But you're a fan.

Is remembering porn star names something that comes from having subscriptions to paid websites?

It has confused me that people would search for a porn star for my entire adult life.

When I search for porn I look for topics (e.g. gay midgets on tricycles) instead of specific actors (e.g. Slick Spreadum Jr.)

It really bugs me that I don't understand why people behave this way. I had been explaining the existence of people who memorize porn star names as men who are some sort of waifu pillow tier weebs, but the sudden emergence of a highly repped RVF in that group shatters my neatly constructed perception.

So what's the deal with memorizing porn stars?

The same reason anyone remembers anything: it makes an impression.

Post: #10065

(08-02-2017 09:06 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  As I'm typing this she just texted me: "Did you dream of my sweet tasting pussy last night?"
I reply: "Nope"

Oh man, that was the perfect time to drop a "new phone, who dis"

Post: #10066

(07-31-2017 05:40 PM)storm Wrote:  

(07-31-2017 05:09 PM)Vaun Wrote:  hear me out;
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Then you connect with and start chatting with the profile with the porn star pics. And lets say its a not so big name porn star, not from the US. But you're a fan.

Is remembering porn star names something that comes from having subscriptions to paid websites?

It has confused me that people would search for a porn star for my entire adult life.

When I search for porn I look for topics (e.g. gay midgets on tricycles) instead of specific actors (e.g. Slick Spreadum Jr.)

It really bugs me that I don't understand why people behave this way. I had been explaining the existence of people who memorize porn star names as men who are some sort of waifu pillow tier weebs, but the sudden emergence of a highly repped RVF in that group shatters my neatly constructed perception.

So what's the deal with memorizing porn stars?

Probably due to your natural lack of testosterone as a man. And your desire to consume Soylent?

Post: #10067

Forgot about another date I had

Dirty blonde I'd put on the 6.5 maybe 7 if she lost a bit of weight - she's from a small east coast farm town - and you could definitely tell, sweet and feminine.

We had a sunday date where I gave her a tour of the bars around my hood.

She got a great vibe from me, was a bit shy, but could be teased and we had a few good laughs.

She's a traveling nurse so I thought she'd be a quick fuck, turns out I barely got a kiss out of her when the date ended, she even told me she doesn't kiss on the first date.

Most of me believes she's full of shit, a part of me believes she's sort of old school


She's been double texting me and chasing me to meet up again this week (I've been putting in work 10-12 hour days so I can't)

I did fuck a plate and did go on a date (see above).


I have the dirty blonde from Monday night wanting to see me again soon because she knows I'll be out of town for a week soon.


I have the MILF white trainer with a booty coming to see me tonight after I get off work, she has a birthday present she wants to give me, and wants to hangout with me.

Post: #10068

Have a date tonight at my apt with a girl I met in my area. We are keeping it casual and ordering pizza and watching a movie.

She's pretty attractive with a great ass. Looking forward to hanging out with her.

There is a downside; my dick kinda hurts on one side. When it rubs against my pants it feels sensitive. I'm assuming it's rub burn since I wore a condom with the last girl I was with earlier this week (Monday) but didn't start acting up until yesterday. There's no redness or anything either (yet).

Should I be concerned?

Post: #10069

You'll be fine Rem - I get this from time to time with different plates - especially if the girl dries up a bit after a longer than usual fuck session.

If she isn't super slippery then add some lube and you'll be fine - or just don't fuck too fast

Post: #10070

Thanks man. I appreciate the peace of mind.

Post: #10071

Had plans tonight to hang with a girl who really likes me. I ended up texting her to not come.

I'd much rather be alone with a beer and a book instead of having her next to me yammering on about shit I don't care about and what she wants to watch/do.

Honestly, right now, that whole scenario sounds like a nightmare. Much rather spend it by myself doing whatever I want.

Post: #10072

For about 5 months I am in the process of rebuilding my social circle from (almost) scratch, after seeing that it's completely useless to cold approach in my city. Here are a few thing that I discovered:

1. It takes a lot of time. It's a long term process. Because all my social circles were more or less given to me and, now, I have to rebuild from scratch, I am baffled by how long it takes and frequently I get impatient. I think that impatience will be a game-killer with the ladies.
2. If you search hard enough, you'll find people to begin with. They won't all stick around, so the more the merrier.
3. At first, you are not in the position to be very selective. So, don't be. Don't bother if, apparently, you won't be havine much in common with the other person. Long-term you will wither find, or you'll break contact. Plus, it's a lesson in how to adapt to different kinds of people.
4. I am not sure yet, but here girls do a good part of the choosing and are more straightforward with this. Of course, it's your job to do the rest, though.
5. Being social surely helps alot, along with having interesting things to say. However, there are the quiet persons. And here, for me, the waiting game begins. It's quite tough because I don't have any problems with talking to them, or to strangers in general, but I need to adjust to their personality.
   

I looked around RVF for topics related to social circle game and I found 1, 2, 3 and 4. I tried to add here things that I did not found in the previous links.

I may take this too far, but I noted on Evernote quite a few things about the social circle I want to build: the guys I know and want to meet, along with a few details about them, notes about where I am at, my sticking points, etc.

(08-04-2017 03:00 PM)Remington Wrote:  Had plans tonight to hang with a girl who really likes me. I ended up texting her to not come.

I'd much rather be alone with a beer and a book instead of having her next to me yammering on about shit I don't care about and what she wants to watch/do.

Honestly, right now, that whole scenario sounds like a nightmare. Much rather spend it by myself doing whatever I want.

I bet it was a shock for her when you turned her down.

Post: #10073

(08-04-2017 03:00 PM)Remington Wrote:  Had plans tonight to hang with a girl who really likes me. I ended up texting her to not come.

I'd much rather be alone with a beer and a book instead of having her next to me yammering on about shit I don't care about and what she wants to watch/do.

Honestly, right now, that whole scenario sounds like a nightmare. Much rather spend it by myself doing whatever I want.

Yep. Had a similar realisation I don't need to date/fuck these 6s every night. I'm way more chill since I just date quality a handful of times during the week. Cut out those tinder bitches as well. Women are time-suckers, and even fucking them saps energy, when it's not worth while.

Post: #10074

Pulled a neat trick to get my buddy a date. Using a failed prospect from my Match.com escapades, I simply passed him her number, and told him to text her, "Hi, this is (so & so) from Match.com" The premise, of course, is how she'll never realize that this dude doesn't even have a profile, and simply be taken as one of the few who cut through the bombardment of messages to her profile.

She promptly replied, asked for a pic, and it was on. Following my suggested script, he was able to quickly set up a date for this weekend.

Post: #10075

Still with the 2 girls, one of them is leaving in a month, so I have to start working again. It's been 1 month since I did any kind of game, mainly because of 2 trips with these girls, but also because I feel bad about "playing" them. I still have 2 notches to complete for my yearly goal, so it's time to grab my balls already. At least I would say I'm really good at LTR game and at being discrete, I should be happy about having these skills, but I feel like I'm failing my "player goals" that I decided to complete at the beginning of the year.