Post: #9076

(12-06-2016 05:33 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Just had a funny one.

Talk in the gym for like 10 min. Going decent.

RB "we should get a drink sometime"
HB "suuure"
RB "here give me your #"
HB "no way I'm not like that!
RB "uh what"
HB "you gotta be a gentleman. At least add me on Facebook first."
RB "what am I 16?"

How did she respond?

Post: #9077

(12-06-2016 05:48 PM)realologist Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 05:33 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Just had a funny one.

Talk in the gym for like 10 min. Going decent.

RB "we should get a drink sometime"
HB "suuure"
RB "here give me your #"
HB "no way I'm not like that!
RB "uh what"
HB "you gotta be a gentleman. At least add me on Facebook first."
RB "what am I 16?"

How did she respond?

Standard girl.

HB "hahah I just met you"
RB "alright good to meet you I'll see you around"

Post: #9078

In my view a girl refusing to give you her number and wanting you to add her on Facebook instead is a polite let down. She is saying that you can be one of her orbiters and increase the number of likes on her posts but she doesn't see you as a serious prospect.

Post: #9079

I don't like giving random girls my Facebook either since i use it primarily for work and i don't want them to have all that information right away. I do have an Instagram that i will give her if i don't get the number.

A good response i sometimes use is " nobody uses Facebook anymore", girls don't like things that are not cool, Instagram and Snapchat have taken over Facebook with younger women anyway. I've also used the "in my country people don't use Facebook" line, you'd be suprised how many of them believe that.

Post: #9080

So I just got back from a Tinder "date".

We matched on Saturday, the conversation on the app went well, enthusiastic on her part, even, although there wasn't a lot of content beyond the logistical.

We'd proposed getting drinks after my shift on Saturday night, which should've been a green light as it were, but it got pushed back to today (Thursday). Again, her responses on text were a unusually sprightly, exuberant even.

Aiming for a zero-date bang, I suggested meeting at the tram stop by the junction of my street. This was one of the few online appointments that I'd be on time to. Typically, she let me know that she'd be running 10 minutes late, but I found her waiting at the bench after cottoning on to the fact that it was her.

We hit it off immediately, me greeting her with a spin hug. At 31, she looked spry for her age, and better than her photos, with brunette curls and a sleeveless crop shirt that showed a pleasing midriff. Congruent with our messaging, she seemed earnestly happy to see me. Should I have suspected that she could've been putting on her feelings, given that she's an actress? I charged the mood between us saying, "Let's get down to business, shall we?" which she responded to positively.

I turned her down my street, and she soon asked, "So how long have you been living here?"
"What makes you think I live here?" I asked, rather aback, I realised furiously.
"I didn't," she said rather coyly.
I threw in a bit of tension, exclaiming how this wouldn't work out between us if she could read my mind like that. She laughed.

We chatted about where we were from, she's a local. I broke the topic to bring up whether she mentioned liking whiskey on Tinder.
"Nah, that wasn't me....I think you're thinking of someone else," she said, laughing. "But yeah, I do like it."
"Great, I know somewhere that does do good whiskey...how about we head to mine?" I suggested. "I've got some good recipes."
"Yeah, sure," she said without hesitation.

It was only a hundred metres to mine. We chatted bit about our backgrounds, keeping it pretty light. She expressed a bit of awe at mine, unjustifiably so, as mine wasn't much more unique than any thousand or so Federation bungalows typical of our side of Melbourne.

I gave her the brief tour of the house with a flourish of my arm, ending with the kitchen and backyard. I kept my voice down as one of my housemates was already in bed; coincidentally, they both shared the same name, something that wasn't lost on me if things went further. Once again, she waxed enthusiasm at the setting, and I should point out here at as a rule, Australians tend to be a bit more reserved than Americans in expressing exactly these sorts of feelings.

Leading her back into the kitchen, I suggested a beer, which she accepted; I got her to choose one from the fridge, and asked if she'd any bottle-opening tricks under her belt. She didn't, at which point I unbuckled my belt and popped both of ours.
"Literally under your belt, right," she said, laughing, then indicated the lids. "Where do I throw these out?"
"There," I pointed to our bin. "I'm too old to be collecting bottle tops."
She laughed.

I led the way back to the backyard, grabbing each of us a chair by the big timber table. I made a mistake sitting at a 45 degree angle to her, with a 20 cm gap. We toasted.

Our conversation jumped around from our jobs, to growing up in Melbourne — I cold read her suburb of origin, until we found out that we both grew up in the same part of town in the upper-middle class south eastern suburbs, and even attended neighbouring private schools. We traded a few in-jokes on the subject, talked about Melbourne a bit further and compared it to Sydney, where she lived and attended drama school. From her brief mention about the weather, she mentioned that she'd be attending a music festival that was on this weekend in the country. It commanded a following among the hipster crowd, so that didn't surprise me. On that note, it was hard to lock down dates this week for that reason, two more Tinder girls were flaky, citing attendance there. We talked about it, but I had a feeling tonight was on borrowed time.
I noticed that while I neglected kino a lot with her, she reacted to it rather neurotically; she crossed her when I had her hand on her thigh twice. Even though her lower half was pointed towards me, when I asked if she was cold because her arms were folded, she said she did that normally when she was talking.

Having finished our beers, I suggested a cocktail, and I led the way back to the kitchen where I decided to make a caipirinha. "Sounds nice," she said.

I got her to hand me the ice and ingredients while I set up my shaker. She watched me intently, looking interested. "This looks really fun," she continued.
"Exactly how you like your nights, right," I replied.
"Right," she said. Meanwhile, she'd pulled out her mobile from her handbag to check her messages. She explained that she had to pick up her festival ticket from a friend, and upon my questioning, said that tonight was the only possible time, and that she had an hour, tops. I had to move fast. The drinks were ready.
"Outside again?" she asked. I shook my head and held her eyes.
"Here," I beckoned. I should've taken her hand.

I brought her to my bedroom. Once more, she reacted positively to the sight of it, and gravitated to my bookcase. I'd explained earlier that I was subletting this place, and as with girls I'd had here, got her to guess whose stuff was whose. I suggested putting on music, she said OK, and I pulled up a deep house playlist on Spotify. We toasted, locking eyes. We talked shop for a bit, I showed her my paintings, which she was impressed at, and motioned to my beanbag, which we sat down on. Our legs were angled towards each other.
"So d'you do anything like that?" I motioned to my artwork. I'm not a fantastic artist, so I was taking a gamble with her impression of my work.
She replied, not really, she doesn't really paint or draw, even though as an actress, she does have somewhat of a creative social circle. But being an actress doesn't really say much about yours or your friends' creativity, does it?

I probed into how it had a bearing on what sort of people she was drawn towards, what sort of folk she gravitated to. She then launched into saying how she got to meet a vast array of people off Tinder, that so many of them had nothing in common creative-wise. I took heart in her bringing up that and dug deeper.
"Oh you mean like what made me swipe right?" she asked.
"Well, I didn't mean that directly, but sure, we'll get to the question of both of us soon," I said, touching her upper arm. She laughed.
We carried on on this topic further, but she was a bit slippery in outright admitting to physical attraction being the catalyst for meeting all her Tinder dates. She asked me if I'd been on many, then rambled on how we'd never have met otherwise, and talked about how refreshing it was to meet guys outside her circle. I pushed and pulled in my reaction to that topic, mentioning (to my error?) the anonymity of doing so. I eventually went in for the kiss....
She pulled back before our lips could even touch.
"Uh uh, sorry, no," she said, smiling.
I might've called her out indirectly on how people totally meet on Tinder platonically, again maybe a bad idea, but carried on talking as usual. Our glasses were empty by now.

"I'd better go check on my friend," she said.
"Yeah sure," I agreed, leading her back to the kitchen.

She briefly flicked through her mobile and told me she'd enough time to leave in a few minutes to meet her friend.
"Couldn't she come over to Brunswick?" I asked rather dryly, referring to our location.
"I'm afraid not, she's already going out of her way to see me."
"Guess it's about time," I said, moving to her front. I went over to kiss her again.
There was less resistance from her, but I pulled away after a couple of seconds. She smiled and I went in to make out again, holding her waist. She didn't let me use too much tongue, and pulled away after less than a minute.
"You're really sweet, but not tonight," she smiled again. "I'm sorry I gave you the wrong idea."
I held a bit of silence, and beckoned towards the front.
"But thanks again for the drinks," she repeated what she'd told me earlier. "We should go drinking again."

I led the way out. We hugged before she disappeared.

Sure, she may have been pretty sorry to have gotten my hopes up, but WTF? This isn't the first time an online chick had ended up in my room, only to withhold sex, but she flat out denied me a kiss even. Beyond my game and our attraction to each other, are there really serial daters that would follow you all the way to your bedroom only to deny you sex at the very end? She couldn't have sensed that I was only going through the motions; she was very much bangable in my book, save for the fact that her breasts weren't that impressive — and I'm more of a tits man these days.
Should I expect anything from the fact that she suggested meeting at another time? She didn't make it conditional upon anything; an open-ended proposal. Then, so have previous online girls, but nothing had come out of most of them. She knows I may be going to the festival too; but so are thousands of equally cute girls, it'd be foolish to bank on anything happening with her there.

Post: #9081

May be a cultural thing but lots of girls (some notably easy ones) have given me the "take my facebook instead" thing and usually end up sending their number there after a couple of msgs.

I dont bother arguing against it anymore

Post: #9082

I'll be honest mates, I'm a bit frustrated right now.

Found a cashier I fancy a few weeks back. She's my type in terms of looks. After consulting the archives a bit on how to approach cashiers, I decided I'd go to try and raise some rapport over a few visits then go for the finish. That part's gone well so far, so it was time to make the final move... last thursday. She hasn't been on the job any day I was around since the second time I made a visit. What's more is the semester closes out after this Friday, and with it the shop until January.

It's not really the girl that's got me down. I could find more like her with a stroll around campus, which is what I've been doing of course. But hell I'd at least like to finish what I started before the break.

Post: #9083

@JWLZG She sounded pretty warm to you - yet allegedly "reserved".

I find that hard to believe for a girl who meets all sorts of "people" from Tinder - aka she rides the cock carousel alot.

The only time I ever talk about the dating app we met on is to parlay it into a qualification story of how I bounced from the date in less than 15 minutes because she was on her phone and rude.

When she pulled out her phone that was basically game over, she drops the excuse that she needs to leave in an hour, anytime a girl says that, it's an excuse and an out because she's not really feeling it.

Quote:"You're really sweet, but not tonight," she smiled again. "I'm sorry I gave you the wrong idea."

That's not something I would want to hear from a girl.

But also means she isn't giving it up that easy so she might not be that much of a slut.

The way I see it, she "just met you online" in her head so it's your job to open her up and make her feel comfortable - many players go through the date like a routine and forget about comfort game.

You have to make her feel like she can let her hair down in your place. You guys did engage in some talks and she seemed pleasant but her ASD/LMR and Hamster kicked in - she's not down to fuck.

As for her pulling back when you kissed her - anytime (once in a blue moon) that's happened to me - I'll laugh and say "oh shutup and kiss me" with a grin and it does the trick.

Now you said Ozzie women are bit more reserved, so that could definitely be a factor.

Your move now is to get her out on a date in a more public setting, so go out drinking with her in the evening and bounce her back to your pad - she knows your place she had fun there, so she'll be more willing to go back.

Post: #9084

(12-07-2016 08:13 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  Sure, she may have been pretty sorry to have gotten my hopes up, but WTF? This isn't the first time an online chick had ended up in my room, only to withhold sex, but she flat out denied me a kiss even. Beyond my game and our attraction to each other, are there really serial daters that would follow you all the way to your bedroom only to deny you sex at the very end? She couldn't have sensed that I was only going through the motions; she was very much bangable in my book, save for the fact that her breasts weren't that impressive — and I'm more of a tits man these days.
Should I expect anything from the fact that she suggested meeting at another time? She didn't make it conditional upon anything; an open-ended proposal. Then, so have previous online girls, but nothing had come out of most of them. She knows I may be going to the festival too; but so are thousands of equally cute girls, it'd be foolish to bank on anything happening with her there.

The "Sorry I gave you the wrong idea" line is a bit weird, but I wouldn't rule this one out. Not all girls are DTF on the first meet. Give her a week then hit her back up for date #2. It's possible she didn't feel quite comfortable enough banging you straight away. Didn't want to seem slutty, etc. It's also possible she was bullshitting you and was just going to another date or to see a Chad she's been bangning off and on for months.

Either way, I would go for a second date.

Post: #9085

(12-07-2016 12:27 PM)kaotic Wrote:  @JWLZG She sounded pretty warm to you - yet allegedly "reserved".

I find that hard to believe for a girl who meets all sorts of "people" from Tinder - aka she rides the cock carousel alot.

The only time I ever talk about the dating app we met on is to parlay it into a qualification story of how I bounced from the date in less than 15 minutes because she was on her phone and rude.

That was my biggest disbelief of the night; that online chicks indulge in serial dates not necessarily for free drinks — and they don't; often times, they've picked up the entire tab — but to fulfill their emotional needs through feel-good chitchat....short of sex?

Bitch please, she as good as admitted to a physical element when selecting her tinder dates, many as they are.

(12-07-2016 12:27 PM)kaotic Wrote:  When she pulled out her phone that was basically game over, she drops the excuse that she needs to leave in an hour, anytime a girl says that, it's an excuse and an out because she's not really feeling it.

Looking back, it was really naïve of me to buy the festival ticket errand as an excuse. A chick that's really into you would theoretically forget her dying dog just to be with you. I sensed a red flag when she mentioned the festival as we were finishing our beers, but maybe that was a subconscious projection of my confidence in how the night was going?

(12-07-2016 12:27 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Quote:"You're really sweet, but not tonight," she smiled again. "I'm sorry I gave you the wrong idea."

That's not something I would want to hear from a girl.

But also means she isn't giving it up that easy so she might not be that much of a slut.

The way I see it, she "just met you online"* in her head so it's your job to open her up and make her feel comfortable - many players go through the date like a routine and forget about comfort game.

You have to make her feel like she can let her hair down in your place. You guys did engage in some talks and she seemed pleasant but her ASD/LMR and Hamster kicked in - she's not down to fuck**.

Going from what I said, her vibe on Tinder and text implied that she was into me, DTF; she was either naturally attracted or I'd warmed her up. You guys have advised me earlier not to solely bank on those traits — so maybe it was against my judgement to gear myself into taking it as a given, going through the motions, Don't Fuck Up game, call it what you like.

For that reason, I completely forgot both bolded bits. I'm less hell-bent on trying to fuck her than trying to improve my date game.

I know here are a few things I neglected:
- Pay a couple of physical compliments.
- Introduce a bit more kino when leading her around the house; hold out my hand.
- Been more conscious of eye contact.

* & ** - It could be that I've spent way too long in RVF land, but I could've taken it for granted that even today, not all online chicks are DTF and will put out with the right formula of looks, smooth text game, logistics, and even more scintillating company. I'll admit, my logistics have been reasonably on point this year, especially so in the case of most of my girls, so I've been angling for 1st night sex.

(12-07-2016 12:27 PM)kaotic Wrote:  As for her pulling back when you kissed her - anytime (once in a blue moon) that's happened to me - I'll laugh and say "oh shutup and kiss me" with a grin and it does the trick.

Gold. I'm stealing that. Can that be applicable to sex? A few times this year, I've surrendered after stiff LMR to sex, after obtaining the make out easily.

(12-07-2016 12:27 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Now you said Ozzie women are bit more reserved, so that could definitely be a factor.

Yes and no. Being more reserved doesn't necessarily mean unwilling to put out on the first night. Refer to this post. We're on home turf. In my city, it's not uncommon for sex to happen on the first date, especially online ones.

(12-07-2016 12:27 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Your move now is to get her out on a date in a more public setting, so go out drinking with her in the evening and bounce her back to your pad - she knows your place she had fun there, so she'll be more willing to go back.

I have a number of venues on lock down either side down the road from mine; she's not stupid, she knows the lay of the land pretty well so she'll know what the game is.

(12-07-2016 12:35 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  The "Sorry I gave you the wrong idea" line is a bit weird, but I wouldn't rule this one out. Not all girls are DTF on the first meet. Give her a week then hit her back up for date #2. It's possible she didn't feel quite comfortable enough banging you straight away. Didn't want to seem slutty, etc. It's also possible she was bullshitting you and was just going to another date or to see a Chad she's been bangning off and on for months.

Either way, I would go for a second date.

I will, but you raised a good point: she's an actress; it would've been second nature to bullshit her enjoyment of the night, despite her saying repeatedly how she was having a great time and thanking me for it. She was looking at my drink-making like she'd never seen a bartender at work, then asked me what the ingredients were! I was confident in my presentation, knowing nevertheless that being 4 years older than me and still attractive, she may well have higher-value options at her disposal.

Obviously, I should keep up texting in the meantime?

Post: #9086

Yeah just do some maintenance texts and set up the next date!


Pinup girl just left tonight, she showed me more ink she got done on her ass, looks pretty cool. We banged.....and I got dick burn again, FUCK.

Basically I've been struggling with this dick burn, the last few weeks, and not trying to fuck but then ending up fucking, I've gotta let this fucking heal.

I know I know first world problems.


Monday I had a good date I setup that morning - 24 year old from Bumble. I'd say almost a 7 - she had every dude looking at her in a somewhat empty bar.

She was cut in person, petite girl, definitely sassy, and we played free pool all night over drinks, split the tab at the end, great make out session end of date (mack your bitches down !)

I was halfway from home, no way was I pulling this chick home.

Overall she was funny, apparently was married, no kids, but brought up some dude she ran into who she hooked up with before that was thirsty, I parlayed that into another conversation.

The whole night was basically getting to know eachother, I read her body language back to her and talked about red pill views, how most guys are pussies nowadays, role reversal.

She text me that night that she had a good time, I actually called her today since she asked how my day was, she invited me to dinner with her friend, I passed since I was lifting.

Texts me later inviting me to her birthday friday, but I'll be at a show with biker girl.

Seems like she's really selling herself to me, who knows, she seems sort of a basic bitch.



Tuesday night date was with a weirdo but petite Korean girl I knew from college - she messaged me on FB see how I was after seeing a post of mine. Very fair skinned, if she had nicer teeth she'd be a 6.5.

Holy shit she threw me a left hook.

We bounced 4 bars and we split the tab - the last drink I think fucked her over. She went from laughing and flirty with me to angry after I kissed her in my bed.

I'll explain, we had a great buzz going before- she was definitely flirty and touch back with me. We were basically drunk by venue 4.

We get home, I flip on a movie, we make out a bit and she's fine.

Then she tells me she's dizzy and doesn't feel good - I tell her she can go to the bathroom - I get her some water instead.

I'm rolling my eyes thinking I've gotta take care of this rookie - but something changes, she looks for her shoes and storms downstairs to my garage and opens it as I follow her.

I'm telling her she shouldn't drive and just crash here, she doesn't listen, closes her car door and I think passed out for a few minutes before taking off.

I didn't wait and see, I laughed said fuck it, and ate her carry out appetizer she bought and went the fuck to bed.


She hasn't texted me since - but she's still friends with me on FB - I'm almost sure she's embarrassed she made an ass of herself.

Overall it was pretty hilarious to watch who I thought was this super shy nerdy Korean girl turn into a drunk cranky bitch.

Post: #9087

Did a solid days work programming.

Got a few bites on OKC and tinder. 2 numbers and 1 coffee date (tinder)for tomorrow.

Tinder girl was opened with a few basic lines and had her # in 5m. I expect her to flake tomorrow but I have alt plans.

Different girl from last week made plans for netflix and chill on friday. She was flakey at first but reframed her "maybe" into a definite yes by telling her I don't deal with "maybe"s and I'm going to make other plans. She quickly responded "okay meet at my place at 8".

Still though it's pretty embarrassing I'm fucking like low 5s. I'm getting better at this. It helps to have more than 1 girl to fuck with as it helps be more aloof with the others.

Wish me luck tomorrow bros, I'm hoping to bounce tinder girl straight to my pad. Haven't really came up with a line to get her back after brief coffee conversation but I'll sleep on it

Post: #9088

(12-08-2016 03:06 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Basically I've been struggling with this dick burn, the last few weeks, and not trying to fuck but then ending up fucking, I've gotta let this fucking heal.

I can't help but laugh. Experienced this before. Gotta take care of the equipment!

(12-08-2016 03:06 AM)kaotic Wrote:  I'm rolling my eyes thinking I've gotta take care of this rookie - but something changes, she looks for her shoes and storms downstairs to my garage and opens it as I follow her.

She probably saw something that made her realize she was being played. Either hairs, or condom wrapper, or something.

That, or she's a little nuts, but I think it's likelier the former. Maybe you rolling your eyes was enough for her to realize you weren't serious about anything with her.

Post: #9089

JWLZG, I want to commend you on your detailed, honest, open report.

You did many things well

• Your online profile and exchanges attracted an actress to the point of meeting at a place of your choosing, without the need for a planned activity
• You made a great first impression
• You quickly made physical contact, and kept it up later
• She felt sufficient attraction to go straight to your place and drink
• You kept up a fun vibe at yours
• You went deeper into some common-world topics
• You made the move to kiss her
• You kept the convo going, despite her resistance
• She suggested meeting again, despite her previous resistance
  

I’ve summarized some more feedback below. But first -

Two questions

1. You seem surprised and annoyed that she would come over but wouldn’t kiss or bang. Around how many times have you pulled girls back and, of them, how many banged?
2. Of the girls you pulled, what proportion was sourced online vs cold-approaching or otherwise?

Some areas for consideration

Quote:Sure, she may have been pretty sorry to have gotten my hopes up, but WTF? ...(snipped)

No matter your game, you will get some women who won't bang the first time you pull 'em, even if the chances are lowered by only targeting online sluts who quickly agree to meet or if you're creating a very strong sexual vibe in your approaches. And to this I say, thank god! Imagine trying to pick a wife from 100 same-night-lays [1] or all club rats [2].

Judging by your mild indignation, having such an expectation seems to have contributed to somewhat of a needy vibe and outcome dependence. I would speculate that she picked up on this, as women are wired through evolution to detect male psychological strength in many forms. One form in this context is independence of any sexual outcome – thereby demonstrating both a disarming “living in the moment” vibe and the high-status trait of a man with options. Having supreme confidence and the mindset of “assuming it’s on” is great, no doubt, and even a necessity in some cases. And what’s even better is to be nonetheless okay with not getting her approval let alone the bang. I think you did great. Nothing to beat yourself up over.

Re: anti-neediness tips -

• Remind yourself of something you don’t like about her (e.g., she’s met a “vast array” of people through Tinder) and that, despite her looks, she's really nothing extraordinary and has not earned your investment yet.
• Imagine yourself 6 months from now, looking back on this rejection of your advances, would you even care, or even remember? Most likely not.
• Remember that her response to your advances change nothing about you [3].
  

Quote:Looking back, it was really naïve of me to buy the festival ticket errand as an excuse...(snipped)

I would suggest that you try to minimize your attempts to mind-read women’s intentions in such cases as it can often work against you, e.g., through causing unfounded self-doubt. In my books, a better alternative would be to proceed regardless and focus on the 'next right step'.

Quote:I made a mistake sitting at a 45 degree angle to her, with a 20 cm gap. We toasted...(snipped)

Similarly, I think this indicates that you tend to break down a lot of small-picture details. I would certainly agree that writing detailed reports has immense self-educational value, as I have written dozens and dozens myself during my playing days. When you're with a chick however, it's a different story. Paralysis by analysis is one of many downsides here.

Re: tactics to relax your mind -

• Save the analysis until after the meet
• If you notice yourself getting in your head when you’re with a chick, give yourself one very quick action to take (e.g., “ok time to lead outside”) then then focus on the tone of her voice when listening to her, or your own breathing.
• Remember that you do not need to be perfect to get laid [4].

Tips from here on

Quote:Obviously, I should keep up texting in the meantime?

I'd give her space for a few days then resume your playful vibe via texting. Once she’s warmed up, suggest another meet away from your place, take your time to build more rapport, then go for the pull again.

Quote:She then launched into saying how she got to meet a vast array of people off Tinder, that so many of them had nothing in common creative-wise...(snipped)

With quotes like this in mind, I suggest you invest absolutely zero emotional stock in her. Keep working your other leads.

In any case, keep up the good work. Here's to the other non-Tinder girls that will see your value in the future...



Links

[1] WIA @ RvF - "If I bang a girl the 1st night , she's not LTR material"
[3] Paul A. Hauck - "Overcoming the Rating Game; Beyond Self-Love & Beyond Self-Esteem" (Foreword by Albert Ellis) [pdf]
[4] Dusty @ RVF - "Book Study: A Guide to Rational Living"

[2] Chris Rock - "Never Scared" show, lil jon skit (skip to 0:36 to 1:17 for the relevant part)

Post: #9090

(12-08-2016 04:25 AM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 03:06 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Basically I've been struggling with this dick burn, the last few weeks, and not trying to fuck but then ending up fucking, I've gotta let this fucking heal.

I can't help but laugh. Experienced this before. Gotta take care of the equipment!

(12-08-2016 03:06 AM)kaotic Wrote:  I'm rolling my eyes thinking I've gotta take care of this rookie - but something changes, she looks for her shoes and storms downstairs to my garage and opens it as I follow her.

She probably saw something that made her realize she was being played. Either hairs, or condom wrapper, or something.

That, or she's a little nuts, but I think it's likelier the former. Maybe you rolling your eyes was enough for her to realize you weren't serious about anything with her.

Honestly man it's fucking hard not to hit up girls and get to banging - some of my friends say I might have an addiction lol - they see all the snaps I send.

Maybe more first dates would let me have time to heal - then again it never ends up that way.

I always do a clean sweep of my room, so I know it wasn't something she saw, she probably felt like shit and did the autopilot thing I do and wanted to go home.

I'm pretty sure she's socially awkard and a little crazy - at this point I don't care either way if she hits me up or doesn't.





I actually forgot to write about 2 girls I ran into.

Sunday I was hungover going to a breakfast joint to pick up some food.

They forget some of my food and I drive back - this petite cute looking girl with big glasses covering my face walks up to me.

"hey you, I thought that was you earlier, how are you ?"

Me not having a fucking clue said, "Good just hungover"

"You remember me right ?"

"Yeah for sure"

Blah blah blah, she's doing good, turns out she has a kid and moved 15 minutes north of me, "it was good seeing you hun"

At this point I could've pulled the trigger, and gotten her digits and got her name by having her put in her name, but I just didn't care and I couldn't really bother hanging with a single mom. (Honestly I just wanted to go sit down since I was hungover)


The second girl I ran into (technically) was this girl I fucked last year. Short thick latina with some fat ass titties and a pretty face. If she got toned she'd be a banger for sure.

Anyways I'm at venue 1 with the drunk Korean girl, I see this old high school friends little brother I know - he's tall jacked has some tats - think Chad Thundercock with some acne on his face and short hair and was in the Navy.

I hear a familiar voice next to him and realize that it's the chick I banged - they seem friendly probably a date. I had already closed my tab out and me and the Korean girl left - I didn't say hi to the couple.

At venue 4 "Chad" walks by and says what's up - asks what I'm drinking and he gets a round for him the girl I banged - we chat up about his older bro - getting fat and almost married.

He says that he's with some girl I know, I play it cool and say "small world man, yeah she's cool, you guys on a date?"

Chad, "Nah we're just hanging out, I guess she's got a boyfriend"

I smile knowingly, because I fucked her a few times, even after I found out she had a boyfriend in the Marines.



Yes I was "Jody" - sorry Devil Dogs.

Chad was unsure about what was going on with her, and I knew full well you can fuck her and bat down all her shit tests.

I smirk and say, "Just because there's a goalie, doesn't mean you can't score" - we have a laugh - all the while my Korean date is sitting next to me.



We shake hands and he bounces back to his date - I hope he fucked her !

Post: #9091

I have lost a lot of motivation for gaming new women. I'm sure a large part of it has been a general feeling of comfort and satisfaction with the main girl I've been hanging with for a few months now.

I have like 11 Tinder matches I have not even messaged just sitting in my inbox. Speaking of dating apps, I've noticed a sudden sharp downtick in action on Bumble. The last 3 or 4 matches I've had never even messaged me and just let their 24-hr window run out. I could care less but it's interesting.

Post: #9092

(12-08-2016 01:50 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  I have lost a lot of motivation for gaming new women. I'm sure a large part of it has been a general feeling of comfort and satisfaction with the main girl I've been hanging with for a few months now.

I have like 11 Tinder matches I have not even messaged just sitting in my inbox. Speaking of dating apps, I've noticed a sudden sharp downtick in action on Bumble. The last 3 or 4 matches I've had never even messaged me and just let their 24-hr window run out. I could care less but it's interesting.

I go on dates ever so often now, it was 3-4 a week, now it's 2-3 or even one a week.

I haven't even been using tinder much, I've got 30+ new matches just on one account, even with bumble I'll unmatch some I don't seem worth the time.

I've noticed it too, school's out and the holidays are in so it might some of the reasons dating app date interest has dropped.

Post: #9093

Speaking of holidays, do you guys have anywhere special you hit up over Christmas? I've got a dead month since I'm in college and was wondering if there are any places that work well for specifically the Christmas season so I can change things up a bit.

Post: #9094

(12-08-2016 02:55 PM)Fightersword Wrote:  Speaking of holidays, do you guys have anywhere special you hit up over Christmas? I've got a dead month since I'm in college and was wondering if there are any places that work well for specifically the Christmas season so I can change things up a bit.

Tell me your location and budget, I'll come up with an itinerary for you

Post: #9095

Sure. Down in Helena AL. money's a bit tight right now in general but I can cover the basics. I can go into some more detail about a budget when I get home tonight and rest a bit, exams have got me out of it right now.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Post: #9096

Getting better at cold openings. Not at the stopping girls on the street level yet but getting a lot less shy with girls anywhere near me in public.

Post: #9097

Girl I've been hanging out with left me waiting for her for 25 minutes while she talked to her boss without explanation (other than text she was talking to him) after I drove over to pick her up at work so I drove off. Cute, young Muslim girl (different one than thread the other month) met with shopgirl daygame, very conservative by US standards, thought she had LTR potential.

Texted her that was "very disrespectful" when she finally texted back 15 minutes after I left, she said some BS, I called, no answer but texted if I wanted to know what happened I was "gonna have to ask". Fuck that, not buying into it - no reply and there won't be.

Breaking down why it pissed me off aside from the waste of my time, subconsciously she's saying that the job/boss is her highest priority and not worth risking even his slight, temporary displeasure to say "Hey, can we talk about this tomorrow? I'm meeting a friend outside". Transactional with relationships. Drinking it off tonight, back to the hunt this weekend. Oh well.

Post: #9098

(12-09-2016 12:30 AM)Gorgiass Wrote:  Texted her that was "very disrespectful" when she finally texted back 15 minutes after I left, she said some BS, I called, no answer but texted if I wanted to know what happened I was "gonna have to ask". Fuck that, not buying into it - no reply and there won't be.

I think that you might be asking a little much. I find a lot of women just don't think like that. However you want what you want and there's no shame in that. Just remember to have some perspective.

But basically to me this means

Quote:if I wanted to know what happened I was "gonna have to ask"

- "I don't respect you".

So well done in nexting. I deal with some similar things myself and sometimes I feel do i ask too much but even if that's the case I expect matters to be handled with respect. If a girl doesn't respect you're 1 step away from being a simp. Respect is the currency I deal in and broke bitches need not apply. You're probably the same way

edit:

To clarify what i mean by "asking too much" as it's vague. By that I mean when you act on or demand a girl drop what she's doing to please you. The sad truth is sometimes you may not deserve it. You don't put a roof over this hoes head or pay her bills, you can't fully expect to have a monopoly on her time. We don't live in that type of society anymore or at least most don't. What you can demand is to be treated with respect however. Every girl has 2 seconds to pound out a text real quick saying "sorry running late, i'll be there in 15 minutes tell you about it later" or "boss is mad, i'm gonna be 15". Not doing so is showing a lack of respect for your time. Being snippy about it is even worse. If you have other options or it's not worth it there's no need to correct that type of behaviour; just move on.


Went for some afternoon coffee with a 5/10 off tinder, kind of hit off. She warned me she had work at 2PM and we met at noon. Talked for about an hour and I invited her back to mine with basically no game, just said "hey, you want to come see where i live" which was a mistake i should've been a little better or baited the hook. She said "not today, i have work". I continued the conversation like she didn't say anything and waited for her to relax and get back into the flow of conversation. After she was less tense I said she should come to my place for coffee and lunch some time next week. She stuttered and stammered alot and wistfully gave some vague time next week. Sounds flakey to me, probably not going to happen. Still ended it on a good note. I may send an invite Sunday but I don't expect to hear back. Something about her stuttering and flaky answer.

Got another # today off OKC and made coffee plans for later next week. The girl said she was moving and when I told her i hoped she had a good spot picked out she said she didn't. Something tells me she was fishing for some kind of simp action there but I just told her "been there. Let me know how your week goes and we'll find time to hang out". Hope she didn't take me for a chump.

Confirmed my Netflix and chill with this girl I banged earlier in the week and made her give a solid time for tomorrow. I can't stand being vague and flakey. It's the nature of women unfortunately so I guess i just gotta deal with it.

Post: #9099

(12-09-2016 12:48 AM)Eugenics Wrote:  Every girl has 2 seconds to pound out a text real quick saying "sorry running late, i'll be there in 15 minutes tell you about it later" or "boss is mad, i'm gonna be 15". Not doing so is showing a lack of respect for your time. Being snippy about it is even worse. If you have other options or it's not worth it there's no need to correct that type of behaviour; just move on.

Exactly. Tell me before I show up, or give some update "Nicky got fired, reworking schedule" or whatever. I respect a girl with good work ethic, but only if they respect me. She's foreign so sometime tough to tell with them what's snippy and what's lost in translation but I'm over figuring that out with this one.

Fan of your username by the way, now we just need to find a PC way of rewording it for the 21st century.

Post: #9100

Think there was nothing wrong with the first thing she said (as i understood she said she needs time because shes talking to her boss). Telling you what exactly the conversation is doesnt help you in any way.

A follow up about taking so long would have been better but still, nothing to be pissed about.

And making too many assumptions based on that. Shes a migrant and serious so of course shes gonna take her job seriously. Youre still only someone she met at a shop. Would be something wrong with her if she has you as a priority over her job in a new country.

Depending on how it was worded, however, the last comment she made is kinda bitchy.