Post: #8751

(10-18-2016 02:05 AM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  While I give vaun credit got the trust issue front and center, your frame is poor. Instead of agreeing and amplifying or ghosting on her bad behavior you rewarded it and worse feel into her frame and defended yourself for no reason. You can do much better and her behavior is predicated on yours

I'm interested in how you think I framed it poorly. I played it off like the girls didn't mean anything to me and it wasn't a big deal. Which is true. How could I have done better?

I don't know how agreeing and amplifying in that situation would have worked out favourably at all

Post: #8752

@Beijong

*laughing my West Indian ass off*

I can't really tell from the tone of the posts what how everyone is feeling, nor do I know if this is some non typical cultural context - but here's what I see

- a player doing player things. Maybe a little juvenile, but not all of us can be middle aged white collar professionals.
- perhaps a bit sloppy on the data security tip. That's neither here nor there.
- a snooping ass girlfriend (which is redundant?)
- you placating her a bit, but still doing your thing
- she blames herself? *guffawing* Too rich!

I don't see a problem, other than that this is your first time having a chick really understand the depth of man's sexuality, and her own inadequacy to fill it.

99% of the time, the Timberland is on the other foot. Where the dude pulls a hottie, and she's getting all these credible offers, and he feels inadequate.

You're officially a 1%er!

Now if you want to calm her down a bit, tell her what she can do to stay in your life.

*sly smile*
*adjusts player hat*

You know I care about you girl, but I have needs. And honestly I don't want to lose what we have over this. All this sex I have feels good. But it's meaningless, not like when we are together *tries to keep a straight face*

So maybe you can
- be cool with it
- find some girls for me
- find some girls with me, and explore together

Otherwise, you're just going to feel bad about yourself, be in pain. And I don't want that, I want you to be happy.

And if it means we can't be together right now, then remember the door is always open.

------

Overall, he who cares the least, has the power.

And if she spreads it around that all these girls are sending you nudes, your good boy image dies, and your bad boy image grows.

Let her tell your mother, eventually your mother will forgive you.

Embrace the outlaw lifestyle © Ginger from True Detective.

Lemme know if I'm missing a crucial detail. Had to take a break from writing and may have overlooked something

WIA

Post: #8753

(10-16-2016 09:26 PM)Beijong Wrote:  So my girlfriend of 2 months encouraged me to go to the gym last night and said she'd stay home and watch a movie

About 20 minutes later she texted me that she saw something that scared her and wanted me to come home immediately

Turns out she was looking through my pictures on my computer and saw all the nudes I've gotten, specifically during the last month. Me and my buddy always use tinder to try to get nudes from chicks using funny lines and then we screen cap and send them to eachother and rate them. I got one chick to FaceTime me and dildo herself within an hour of matching me, for instance.

Anyway, she was mainly worried I was gonna leave her for one of these chicks because my gf wasn't putting out much. So she kinda blamed herself a lot. She doesn't wanna break up at all, but she wants me to stop talking to other girls.

Anyway, my biggest concern is that she'll tell her friends or mother about it and then they'll forever be hating on me from the sidelines, which will effectively erode the relationship and cause it to inevitably fail. I don't know who or what she told about it yet. Any experienced players here able to analyze the situation and offer thoughts on handling myself going forward?

Also: I think the fact that I had some bomb nudes from chicks on there helped me out, I usually get decently hot chicks sending them, so I'm not some punk in her eyes, I'm a dude with abundance.

I don´t see any problem in this. She is worried that you could leave - so she doesn´t think you are cheating. Until she won´t think this, there´s not any long-term problem with trust, I guess. Just quit this online stuff, tell her you like real life photos and let her to send them to you, she will like it. And she is worried - that´s positive. The most of her friends are probably sluts anyway, don´t care of them.

Post: #8754

(10-18-2016 10:59 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @Beijong

*laughing my West Indian ass off*

I can't really tell from the tone of the posts what how everyone is feeling, nor do I know if this is some non typical cultural context - but here's what I see

- a player doing player things. Maybe a little juvenile, but not all of us can be middle aged white collar professionals.
- perhaps a bit sloppy on the data security tip. That's neither here nor there.
- a snooping ass girlfriend (which is redundant?)
- you placating her a bit, but still doing your thing
- she blames herself? *guffawing* Too rich!

I don't see a problem, other than that this is your first time having a chick really understand the depth of man's sexuality, and her own inadequacy to fill it.

99% of the time, the Timberland is on the other foot. Where the dude pulls a hottie, and she's getting all these credible offers, and he feels inadequate.

You're officially a 1%er!

Now if you want to calm her down a bit, tell her what she can do to stay in your life.

*sly smile*
*adjusts player hat*

You know I care about you girl, but I have needs. And honestly I don't want to lose what we have over this. All this sex I have feels good. But it's meaningless, not like when we are together *tries to keep a straight face*

So maybe you can
- be cool with it
- find some girls for me
- find some girls with me, and explore together

Otherwise, you're just going to feel bad about yourself, be in pain. And I don't want that, I want you to be happy.

And if it means we can't be together right now, then remember the door is always open.

------

Overall, he who cares the least, has the power.

And if she spreads it around that all these girls are sending you nudes, your good boy image dies, and your bad boy image grows.

Let her tell your mother, eventually your mother will forgive you.

Embrace the outlaw lifestyle © Ginger from True Detective.

Lemme know if I'm missing a crucial detail. Had to take a break from writing and may have overlooked something

WIA

Ha ha ha I'm glad you see the humour in the situation, and spot on analysis. Thats more or less how I was seeing things but it's a somewhat new scenario for me and I needed some validation / outside advice. Really, this kinda all started when she turned me down for a lay a couple of times and I decided it was time to outsource, and she basically knows that.

Yeah, I told her, quite honestly, that I've only had feelings for her - my heart has always been hers, and that I see 99% of girls as trash which is why I talk to them like I do and why I don't mind using them for pics. This seemed to really calm her down because her biggest fear was me leaving her for one of them. She's been trying to compensate by sending ME pics, some of which were hot but she's such a good girl that she doesn't necessarily take the kind I get from these other sloots, but still I appreciate the effort. She's coming over to make me dinner tonight and she never really cooked much for me before. She also wants me to meet her parents in early November for a dinner with the four of us. All this extra effort to please me and bring me into her fold.

She's also been emotionally volatile and calling other girls hores and stuff. Getting really protective/possessive of me, and as my other post said, she was liking body building models photos on instagram to try to "show me how it felt" - I very much dislike this revenge-seeking behaviour. I mean, if it became talking to other guys or making guy friends I'd have to pull the plug, I'm not about that cuck life.

The good guy image dies and the bad boy image grows. Nice quote

She hasn't told her friends about it because she said she's embarassed, and she hasn't told her mother because she says her mother would never forgive me or accept me. So it's under wraps for the moment, and I'm trying to focus on comforting her and giving her lots of sexy attention so she feels secure that she is desired.

Side game is on hold for now - but I'm really feeling the vacuum of loss there

Post: #8755

Tread carefully, if she's liking bodybuilding photos now, who knows what she'll do later.

Curb that behavior immediately - otherwise it'll grow. Hell I'd make her delete her IG for starters.

Thankfully you've got the power in this scenario, since she's the one scrambling to please you, it's your job to guide her with that dread game you've stumbled upon.

Post: #8756

Great date for this time of year is a haunted house or corn maze especially if you stop at a bar before.

Post: #8757

(10-18-2016 10:24 AM)Beijong Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 02:05 AM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  While I give vaun credit got the trust issue front and center, your frame is poor. Instead of agreeing and amplifying or ghosting on her bad behavior you rewarded it and worse feel into her frame and defended yourself for no reason. You can do much better and her behavior is predicated on yours

I'm interested in how you think I framed it poorly. I played it off like the girls didn't mean anything to me and it wasn't a big deal. Which is true. How could I have done better?

I don't know how agreeing and amplifying in that situation would have worked out favourably at all

You got defensive and explanatory. The simple fact is she was using your device without your permission and the reason she gave of "looking for pictures of you" is 100% unadulterated bullshit. You basically let her get away with it. WIA gave good advice, but you need to understand that your frame WAS poor.

A few things that made me think this:

1. She pushed you to go to the gym and then immediately went through your pictures.

2. She sent you a near demand to come home from the gym, which you may hvae ignored but my assumption is that you didn't, otherwise you would've said you made her stew.

3. She likened the pics to porn and told you that porn was okay. Here's her words you gave, "looking at porn would be alright, just not real girls ok?" If a girl I was in a relationship told that to me, I'd correct her and say, "No. You don't give me permission to have porn. That's something I will never apologize for having and if that's a problem, you can go."

4. Your statement, "I'll delete the pics tho so in the event that she does it won't be an issue again." is modifying your behavior completely for her. You still want to have the pics, but you're worried she'll snoop through your shit again. You are already essentially giving her permission to snoop again. The only behavior of yours you should change is the ones you want to change. Locking down your stuff is an overall smart thing to do for personal security. Don't change something just for her.

5. All the things I'm saying are touched on by others in this thread, I'm just being more blunt about them. If you want to disagree that's all good and well, but even you said so yourself, "It almost never goes well if I comply."

Don't go into their frame, be it your girl or random girls.

Post: #8758

Agree with Aneroid.

Right now your objective value is high, but she's definitely trying to turn you into a bitch. If you cave, to her, your outside pussy will drop eventually.

WIA

Post: #8759

(10-18-2016 04:55 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Agree with Aneroid.

Right now your objective value is high, but she's definitely trying to turn you into a bitch. If you cave, to her, your outside pussy will drop eventually.

WIA

Really great advice Aneroid and WIA. I see where my frame failed - the explanatory behaviour and defensiveness wasn't strong.

I'll keep that in check.

It seems to have blown over, wasn't even brought up yesterday and she's cooking and putting out. It looks like I'm out of the woods, but I'll stay vigilant.

Big thanks to you both

Post: #8760

There's just something so romantic about pulling a latinas hair, choking her, and having her moan sitting next to a fountain surrounded by other couples

Monday's date flaked, deleted, last nights date was fun even though she was a 6, meh whatever, the sexual tension was fucking high, she dropped me at my car and we made out again and was rubbing my dick, kind of a squeaky latina voice to, goddamn.

Probably go see that cutie mom tonight, forgot pants so I'll segue into coming over to her house in gym shorts.

Thursday got a cutie latina that's close to my area, and Friday I'm either hanging with this girl I've been texting for 2 weeks and finally meet up, she's the cutest of the bunch this week.

This weekend will be rad, headed to another music festival with friends, and my boys gf friend whose a blonde milf.

Post: #8761

I've got 4 girls I'm seeing right now, I suppose 5 or 6 if you count girls who are abroad that I am also involved with (one of them is road tripping to my place tomorrow to spend the weekend with me).

One of the girls I'm seeing I'm especially sweet on, and I'm starting to feel a slight pang of guilt when with other women. She is a far far cry away from "LTR material" by generally held RVF standards, but it's not about that for me. She's sexy as hell to me, extremely enjoyable to be around, and someone who I have a great time with both in and out of bed. I'm not saying I'd marry the bitch, but I'd consider dropping my current harem for her to focus more on this particular relationship for the time being. We'll see. We carved pumpkins together the other night. How cute.

This girl I have coming over this weekend is the one who gushed all over my hotel beds when I was in Oklahoma last month. I look forward to fucking her brains out for a couple days and showing her around Denver for the Halloween festivities.

But again, as I said, I feel a little bad because I kinda rather be spending this weekend with the other girl. This Saturday is the big Denver Zombie Crawl and after party and I would probably enjoy it more it with my other girl. Oh well I'm still looking forward to the weekend either way.

This brings me to some big-picture stuff:

Linux and I were talking a few weeks back about congruency with women, and forging relationships with them that don't require you to hide much of yourself or your intentions.

All the girls I'm involved with now I am not leading on. I'm not giving them the impression that I'm Mr. Boyfriend who is going to be "their man" with long term shit in our future. All these women understand this is a casual relationship and I may or may not be seeing other girls and conversely I do not expect them to just be involved with me and no one else. That's not to say I won't lie about some things or cover some things up, but this is merely for the sake of keeping all parties happy. I'm not going to shove it in a girl's face that I'm fucking a handful of other girls. That is rude, tasteless, and ultimately pointless. If she wants to make plans one night and I have a date I'm not going to tell her I'm seeing another girl, I'm just going to tell her I'm busy or maybe hanging out with a friend.

I am a relatively transparent dude, and these days I'm certainly not looking to convince a girl I want to date her just for the sake of getting in her pants. It's important that a woman knows your intentions with her and your relationship so you don't hurt them or at the very least get yourself wrapped up in a serious headache that you don't need to be dealing with.

Post: #8762

General, does the topic of exclusivity even come up with these girls or is it simply about how you present yourself to them?

Post: #8763

One girl asked me if I wanted to get closer with her or know more of eachother or if I liked things just how they are. I simply told her I liked things the way they were and she was cool with that. Another girl after the first couple nights we spent together texted me "So should we just chalk this up to a fun weekend?" I texted her back "It was a fun weekend. No reason we can't have more ." She agreed.

I have had other girls I've gone on dates with tell me they "got the vibe" that I "wasn't the relationship type" so I guess my presentation sort of does the screening for me for the most part.

Post: #8764

It's all about your mindset - the closest I've explained it is

"When I'm with you, I'm with you, when I'm not, I'm not"

or

"I try not to over analyze things and just roll with it"

The way you present your mindset - a girl will get the hint.


It's not a player vibe, it's more along the lines of let's just have fun and don't ask any questions.

WIA alludes to this in secret society - once you're in and the girl agrees to that - it's easy from there.

EVENTUALLY someone catches feelings and you gotta next them.

Post: #8765

^ this. Once girls catch the drift and are into you enough to play along then everything is golden, but as I've said in the past there is a half-life to this sort of arrangement. I have had girls around and down for a casual thing for over a year. They may catch feelings, or they just get bored of being in a stagnant, go-nowhere "hang & bang" relationship, or they start seeing someone else and decide top place good girl. I've had a girl tell me we couldn't see eachother anymore because she started dating someone, but then hit me back up a few months later and continue on business as usual.

Post: #8766

I went to this posh venue on wednesday, it wasn't packed as expected but had a relatively decent ratio. I opened two chicks who were both having a deep conversation with their girlfriends.

Both of the interactions went nowhere and were boring in my opinion. The chicks which I would rate as 8s were not investing enough in the interaction.
I just excused myself and re-joined my buddy for more drinks.

Anyone of you guys having a hard time creating a chemistry with chicks who are sober while you're tipsy? Do you tend to avoid opening girls who are having an intimate conversation and will see you as an annoying intruder?

Post: #8767

In night game I rarely if ever cold approach females unless maybe non-verbally on the dance floor. Look for IOI's at clubs/bars etc. If a girl makes warm eye contact then go approach.

Post: #8768

This thread has lost energy since me, Stalin, and kaotic slowed down. Is everybody cuffed up or something?

I've choked back game because of money. I still live in a pretty shitty town for dating. ROI plummeted as I'm searching for higher quality. Banging 5-7's was fun for a while but I find myself putting up with less and less as I get older. At the same time I'm getting better at day game, feeling more natural just talking to chicks.

Here's a WestCoast post I like:

(11-26-2013 01:00 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  Yeah these are called "stored in my phone forgot about that chick lets call her on the way back from work for a hailmary bang - game"

Generally I already tier the girls based on interest. For the girls that have been low interest/have cancelled I'll randomly call them on the way home sometimes if I get bored.

If they pick up proceed as usual, if they don't then I finally delete from the phone.

Example:
Alexis1
Ashley3

If a girl has a 3 she is either low chance/previously coy/flakey. If she doesn't pick up on a call on a Thursday night at 8pm you're pretty f'd.

That's how I run with it.

This is he first year where I finally don't care if the girl picks up, don't care if I get flaked on, hell I don't even care if I spit bad game anymore it's now a hilarious story I get to tell my friends.

So instead of just throwing the last second chances away, just phone while you're in transit and be done with it.

Chicks already help with the filter process.

Tier one = enters first and last name (call in 2 days)
Tier 2 responds to your initial text of your name (call in 3-4 days)
Tier 3 is first name + no last name + no response when you send here a first name text after grabbing her # that day (hailmary likely to flake call at pure random when you're bored)

Post: #8769

(10-20-2016 06:17 PM)kaotic Wrote:  It's all about your mindset

<SNIP>

WIA alludes to this in secret society - once you're in and the girl agrees to that - it's easy from there.

EVENTUALLY someone catches feelings and you gotta next them.

Absolutely. That part "it's all about your mindset" is true, however you have to keep in mind that your value is a big factor here.

If you've got your shit together and/or you've got big social proof/value or something else major going on AND you have solid mindset/frame, then you're in a whole different league.

I thought for sure girls would immediately reject me if I told them anything other than "yeah of course we're exclusive."

Reality set in after I dated 2-3 girls for well over a year and they would only occasionally question where we stood. It was strange to me at first but I truly didn't want to be in a totally exclusive relationship with any of them. I told them I cared for them and was enjoying all the time I spent with them but that we would have to see where things went as I wasn't really looking for a serious relationship necessarily. I even had a semi-close guy friend who was absolutely shocked that I was able to pull off what he called "multiple girlfriends" despite being the stereotypical college jock type who had a long-term girlfriend that would come visit from out of state who was smoking hot and who he would cheat on from time to time.

Sure, maybe those girls were hoping that time would change my mind, or that they'd be able to convince me otherwise, but none of them were under the delusion that I was just a couple weeks away from making them my girlfriend. They sure wanted that I'm sure, but they were okay with having the mini-relationship with me as long as they had a great time around me, I fucked them well, and didn't ignore them completely. I also did not lie at all when I told them I did really care for them, because I did (and I'd take off and go help them if they really needed it), but one thing I learned is that caring for a girl is not the same as giving all of your energy/time/commitment for a girl and should never come before caring for yourself.

Each and every one of those girls loved to spend time with me because when we did, it was quality time. Not every time, but consistent enough that they would be pulled entirely out of their worlds and into a better space. I mean, shit, one of them would be content to eat fast food with me in a small park on her short lunch break while looking at the birds and squirrels. Another would be real happy if I played with her dog while she cleaned up her place before cooking dinner for me and if I went somewhere in nature with her she would be beaming from ear to ear.

Girls aren't that hard if you even have the least bit of interesting/adventurous/happy lifestyle to share with them along with a solid frame.

Post: #8770

I've been learning to judge women less and less for shit I've done/do myself.

One of the girls I've been seeing lately I'm particularly sweet on and we have more or less been legitimately "dating" for the past few weeks now. She is unabashedly honest about herself and her past and she's is a no-holds-barred slut. Talks about how her and one of her best friend used to double team guys all the time, says she's pretty much done everything in bed worth checking out aside from shit and piss etc. Got a hysterectomy recently so she will never ever be able to get pregnant or have periods again.

Anyway, the point of all this is that while I don't particularly want to hear about her sexual past, I'm not one to judge her. In the month and a half or so I've been seeing her, I've fucked more than half a dozen other women, fucked a handful of hookers in Colombia, had a woman road trip to my place and stay with me for a weekend, etc. I'm a total womanizer. Who am I to judge?

I'm not saying you boys should be forgiving slutty girls who think they are entitled to a good man when they have already given themselves to so many other men, but I am saying don't hate on women just because they've been around. The fact that this girl has seen lots of dick and has more red flags than the Chinese parliament building doesn't change the fact that we have a great time with one another and we have awesome sex. She doesn't expect anything extravagant from me and I don't expect anything extravagant from her.

This also goes back to me finding myself caring more about the type of girl I spend my time with these days as opposed to the kinds of girls I can bang.

Post: #8771

(10-25-2016 02:06 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  She doesn't expect anything extravagant from me and I don't expect anything extravagant from her.

Women lie bro. Not just about their past (this one apparently hasn't) but you better believe that it's not going to stop there. What you are describing sounds almost exactly like the last mini LTR I broke off just a few weeks ago.

Awesome sex, we 'both understood we didn't need anything from each other'.


Until she changed her mind.

I've fallen for that song and dance before and it always culminates with the "what are we" talk. Just my .02.

Post: #8772

It's not that she's lying, it's that her mind changes as she gets new information.
Guys will stick with something even though it fucks them over be it a bad job, a bad car, or a bad relationship.

GS is in a position where he's actually able to fully assess what a chick offers him. He's not conflating her value merely with the value of sex. When getting your balls drained is not an issue, then a chick's personality comes into play.

In terms of this one fucking him over, all of the other chicks without the "red flags" can and might.

Indeed, most of us have been fucked my girls *without* red flags..

Y'all don't hear me though

WIA

Post: #8773

^ Whether or not she's lying doesn't really matter, her mind changes in accordance with what she thinks she can get. It's a sexual strategy, and an advanced one at that. She accurately assumes that the guy she is banging has options and does not need to commit to her so she feigns like she's ok with that in order to stay under the radar. She may even be ok with it, for now but I'd bet dollars to doughnuts she will change her mind at some point, most commonly once she knows the coast is clear and that she's beaten out the most direct competition for exclusive access to GS's dick. If he keeps his head and continues spinning plates I predict she will voice disapproval at some point and offer an ultimatum.


Or maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about.

Quote:Indeed, most of us have been fucked my girls *without* red flags..

Of course we have. I didn't say it was a red flag, I just shared my experience. I know you think I'm "overly red pill" but I'm not saying everyone needs to adhere to a strict set of cynically inspired standards, only that there are patterns that are easily recognizable and that most these situations are templates.

Post: #8774

Aneroid - that was a great write up about the lifestyles we choose to live and how to lead the relationships you have without women without leading with titles.

Red's right this thread has slowed down, admittedly I do find myself spending time with biker girl because she's pretty fun to be around, no serious talks besides one major medical issue someone in her family has.

Monday and Thursday dates flaked, pushed as far as I could with the MILF teacher weds.

I did get a new notch on Friday (writing up separately) - I've finally hit a notch goals of mine.

I actually hung out with Biker Girl Sunday night, decided I didn't want to work Monday and spent all day with her, doing my shopping, then drove around and walked in the rain, followed by pigging out on cheat meals.

This chick loves cuddling, she always ends up on me, I do notice, she isn't much about little kisses in bed, and I always initiate the sex, but she always blows me before I slip on it.

It's a weird chemistry, but we enjoy each others company for now.

Monday's date flaked anyway, deleted her number, along with another one from Sunday. Both saying they've been on dates with guys who are saying they aren't seeing anyone else, the girls want to see where it goes.

To be honest, I wasn't pushing to meet up that fast since I was pipe lining other girls, so I just didn't give a fuck or put any effort in really responding to them when they dropped that line.

Those poor bastards have no idea about these girls and their ways or the poor girls are falling to better more focused game from other player's.

I'm always constantly pipelining other girls, I can't tell you how many girls I was over texting or lost interest in meeting up with the last few weeks.



I may not write alot write now but that's because I've been pretty busy, also started a new great diet for the gym also.

I'm actually looking forward to meeting up with the RVF Tribe this week.


EDIT:

Some thoughts about the GS, WIA, RP convo:


I fucked a 19 year old girl for over a year because we had such an open and honest conversation, but also we had a don't ask don't tell policy unless there were STD scares, - I left after the second time.

Guaranteed I can call her up anytime I want and fuck the shit out of her.

No matter what, eventually a woman being enjoyable around you will catch up to being able to fuck her, hands down, I want to be around a woman that's enjoyable and compliments my life.

My POV is that I don't care what a slut I'm banging does, besides being clean.

I'm torn on this issue - half of me doesn't give a fuck and an open conversation can be parlayed to a more sexual adventures and a possible 3 some.

The other half of me is the double standard - where knowing a girl's a history would turn me off - OR I'd rather not know and just have fun and bang.

Some girls just don't give a fuck and want to fuck, I've had a few of those girls, but most sooner or later - catch feelings and the what are we talk happens.

WIA's right - red flags or not - girls will fuck you over.

Post: #8775

Me and Red Pill are sounding a bit negative, i certainly don't want to come across that way.

I just expect women to be women.

One of the struggles I've had in this unending intermediate status of my game is that what Stalin found is difficult to find. You might bang another 200 chicks before you find a chick like that again. Random big titty 19 year old, or Ms. Super head you'll meet again. You can spot her, or quickly find out.

A cool ass chick though? So many pretenders.

I don't even mean same hobbies girl, or same music you like girl. The cool chick? Impossible to find. I've dated one.

She will obviously rack up numbers. Not mad at that. Some of these dead fish pretty face bitches have numbers too. If a chick sucks a good dick, she ain't learn that watching spank bang.

How to quickly screen for that kind of chick is holy grail status, because what makes a cool chick cool is hard to define.

WIA