What's up guys! It's been a while since I've logged on here. Had a lot of success in the past year. I've gotten a lot better and got a few notches. This is where it all started when i was 16. Now I'm almost 20. You guys changed my perspective. Cheers.

Wonder if there is some kind of standard half-life for longterm plates, as in how long of a void you can go before you essentially have to re-game yourself into their pants.

My longest plate was close to a year, and there was a time we "broke things off" because she told me she started seeing someone. I respectfully and genuinely told her I was happy for her and good luck and all that. Several months later she texts me out of the blue straight up with "would it be weird if I ask you to hang out?" "Only if you make it weird lol"

She came over late at night and we banged without missing a beat. Kept banging all month until I left town and moved out West. Now it has been like 9 months since I've seen her and I'm curious if I visited back East of I could hit her up and just bang away like nothing ever happened.

(06-08-2016 01:15 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Wonder if there is some kind of standard half-life for longterm plates, as in how long of a void you can go before you essentially have to re-game yourself into their pants.

My longest plate was close to a year, and there was a time we "broke things off" because she told me she started seeing someone. I respectfully and genuinely told her I was happy for her and good luck and all that. Several months later she texts me out of the blue straight up with "would it be weird if I ask you to hang out?" "Only if you make it weird lol"

She came over late at night and we banged without missing a beat. Kept banging all month until I left town and moved out West. Now it has been like 9 months since I've seen her and I'm curious if I visited back East of I could hit her up and just bang away like nothing ever happened.

Of course you can, you're alpha bro.

Man it's been a fun and interesting week.

Saturday got off work early, and 1 beer turned into a drinking fest with a buddy and a homegirl. She bounced we kept drinking at this bikini bar, one of the girls were shit faced and of course we weren't falling for their stupid antics.

I ended up setting up 3 girls to come over that night - I flaked on the MILF trainer. Instead the werido came over, she invited me to come swim with her but wasn't about it. She came over claimed she was on her period, and found a cyst on her ovaries.

She didn't even want to suck my dick, she even asked me if I was clean, I flipped it on her saying that was kinda insulting, eventually I kicked her out, claiming I needed to pick up drunk friends.

The 18 year old softball girl came over, we banged, holy shit I blew one of the hugest whitest loads ever all over her (I hadn't banged since before memorial day vacation). She wanted to fall asleep but I handed her a redbull and kicked her out the door.

Sunday this very old bang redhead hit me up to bang, I got a 6 pack of booze for her, she dressed up in high socks and a skirt. I forgot how annoying and loud she is. We 69'ed for a bit but I was fucking grossed out, she doesn't take care of herself down there. We banged I whipped and choked her, got my nut.

She wouldn't stop talking, and she was 3 beers deep. She thought she was spending the night, I told her fuck no I needed to be up early at the airport. She definitely got pissed and call me an asshole and rude. I laughed told her I didn't tell her she should've drank that much or at all. She bounced thank god, she's nexted.

I saw the MILF trainer Monday - she's definitely a sweetheart. Always dresses in lingerie for me, and overall very dorky and semi feminine. We watched a movie, but the pre workout I took was fucking with me - I couldn't get my dick up. This hasn't happened before, really weird. Maybe my dick is telling me something.

Last night was the wildest - matched with this cool punk rock chick probably a 6 on Tinder. Finally made plans and met up last night. She has 3 kids, jesus, she didn't look bad, but definitely had some baby weight. Completely tatted up and digs the same music as I do. If I had met her before she had kids, she'd be at least a 7.5 in my book on just basic looks and a rad personality. Crazy thing is...we have the same fucking birthday, what a trip.

You know how we talked about just going out and having fun with a girl, regardless of the outcome ?

Last night was one of those nights.

I show up, good vibes, super relaxed. I was my sarcastic self which she responded in kind. We started making pool, then this group of Australian airline cabin crew showed up. My date and I chatted one of them up who brought the others in the group, we started playing pool with them. Talking about life stories, our travels, etc.

Really great bunch of people, mostly the girls stuck around us, we ordered round after rounds of drinks and shots. Got pretty wasted.

The first Australian girl who walked up to use eventually asked us about the presidential race....we both said Trump. Which surprised me with this girl and added points in my book.

The Australian was kind of shocked, immediately my date says she's half mexican, I tell the Ozzy that I'm brown, muslim heritage, and first generation. Then the cuter Ozzy butted in and said to the other one that it's not their business and not their election. I steered the convo to the hotter Ozzy and eventually she showed us her ranch she lives on back home.

We all ended up outside with another group of girls, so here I am in a sea of girls, trying to figure out our next moves. Two of the girls are trying to get ubers.

Then this white van with a loud speaker shows up, I'm drunk thinking it's a fucking police paddy wagon - turns out it's a taco guy working out of his van. PERFECT.

I have the girls cancel their ubers - we get tacos and chat shit up. It's a great fucking time and I'm the only dude their.

Eventually everyone leaves, I had the option of going to my dates house, but I need to go home and had no change of clothes. (I need that player's go back we've talked about on here, which I usually have).

I just put her against her car, pull her hair, make out with her, just as she wants more, I walk away and tell her to text me.

Didn't get into work until noon, I'm on a good one today.

(06-08-2016 01:15 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Wonder if there is some kind of standard half-life for longterm plates, as in how long of a void you can go before you essentially have to re-game yourself into their pants.

My longest plate was close to a year, and there was a time we "broke things off" because she told me she started seeing someone. I respectfully and genuinely told her I was happy for her and good luck and all that. Several months later she texts me out of the blue straight up with "would it be weird if I ask you to hang out?" "Only if you make it weird lol"

She came over late at night and we banged without missing a beat. Kept banging all month until I left town and moved out West. Now it has been like 9 months since I've seen her and I'm curious if I visited back East of I could hit her up and just bang away like nothing ever happened.

Come to think about it, all of th long time plates ive had over the years made some kind of drama, usually around the 2 years mark.

Mostly its relationship drama such as "what am I to you?" "where are we going with this?" "what do you call whatever it is we have going on here?"

Ignore her, plow through her objections, put her into the backburner, go radio silent for months if needed. Just never aknowledge her concerns or negotiate with her, give her cold answers or none at all, she has too see that drama does not works with you, and either accept things as they are or walk.

Thats non negotiable. Do not negotiate.

She is getting a perfect relationship, one with none of the drama , and all of the sex. She has the most to lose if she walks away, so if she walks, let her. Shell come back eventually, just keep her around, its unlikely she will find someone else to give her that "non-negotiable drama free fuckfest", but it might happen. You have to remain a sexual option for her, so her other options in men are for drama, dates, relationships, attention. You give her none of that, only sex.

Then if after a couple of years she tries it again, she will learn that THAT definitely does not flies with you.

I have a plate going on 1.5 years, we don't expect anything of each other, we just bang, laugh, and she leaves.

There's a little secret society to this, you know the score, so does she. Nothings spoken of.

Once you're in, you're good. Especially if they know from the get go you aren't looking for a relationship.

There was another plate I had when I was 20/21, great tits, thick waist, mixed Indian gal.

We banged for months, then wouldn't talk a month, then right back on it again. She would even tell me about some dude she was dating after we laid there and she swallowed my load.


Some girls just know what you're good for, EVERY relationship has an expiration date, whether it's a plate, a girl you're dating, or an LTR.

That's why we spin plates.


I don't expect a plate situation to last at all, so I have no care if it continues or not. There's always more pussy around the corner.

So the girl I banged on Sunday was so tight and sexy that I can't stop thinking about her.

I have a girl flying in to visit me this weekend and half a week to find new pieces but I want to cancel everything and go bang out this girl for a week straight. I have pussy oneitis.

Fuck.

(06-08-2016 05:37 PM)kaotic Wrote:  EVERY relationship has an expiration date, whether it's a plate, a girl you're dating, or an LTR.

That's why we spin plates.

I don't expect a plate situation to last at all, so I have no care if it continues or not. There's always more pussy around the corner.

This.

(06-08-2016 01:15 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Wonder if there is some kind of standard half-life for longterm plates, as in how long of a void you can go before you essentially have to re-game yourself into their pants.

My longest plate was close to a year, and there was a time we "broke things off" because she told me she started seeing someone. I respectfully and genuinely told her I was happy for her and good luck and all that. Several months later she texts me out of the blue straight up with "would it be weird if I ask you to hang out?" "Only if you make it weird lol"

She came over late at night and we banged without missing a beat. Kept banging all month until I left town and moved out West. Now it has been like 9 months since I've seen her and I'm curious if I visited back East of I could hit her up and just bang away like nothing ever happened.

I don't know what the context was, maybe flaking, I think it was Gio..

goes something like this.

"If she wants to leave, let her leave.
"If she wants to come back, let her come back" (assuming you still want her)

That sort of Zen-Like independence outcome coupled with abundance is a very potent combination.

WIA

Man all's I know is, girls are fun.

I've been hooking up with this cute thick Mexican girl for like 4 months now, see her at least once a week, and then I just started hooking up with this thin blond girl I met at the club a couple weeks ago. Mexican is 5 years older than me, and blond girl is 6 years younger than me, and they are both fun sweet girls.

The blond was over last night and thought the hickies on my chest were from her. I let her believe it. I'm at a pretty decent spot in my life these days with regards to women and relationships, and I honestly owe a lot of it to ROK, Roosh, and this community. The Red Pill helped me pull the wool from my eyes, and game helped me get laid and learn to enjoy women more for what they are.

Spasibo, comrades.

Sent a bunch of restart texts - all to girls I've made out but who fell off before anything else. Two girls responded. One was free tonight, so we met up for a drink. Drove her back to her place, walked her to the door and she didn't stop me so I followed her upstairs. We chilled for a bit but the mood was never right to make a move. Dropped some bait earlier in the evening and she asked if I was free to hang out this weekend and we made plans. Other girl asked if I was free next week. I need to get better at steering conversations to build sexual tension.

(06-09-2016 12:03 AM)Ensam Wrote:  Sent a bunch of restart texts - all to girls I've made out but who fell off before anything else. Two girls responded. One was free tonight, so we met up for a drink. Drove her back to her place, walked her to the door and she didn't stop me so I followed her upstairs. We chilled for a bit but the mood was never right to make a move. Dropped some bait earlier in the evening and she asked if I was free to hang out this weekend and we made plans. Other girl asked if I was free next week. I need to get better at steering conversations to build sexual tension.

Kino. Get physical, then start bringing up physical topics like talking about eye color, hair, compare hand sizes. Some teasing always works great, especially a little tickling. Seems juvenile, but tickling is one of the easiest and most tried-and-true segue ways to action.

So, this cute chick I am dating, asks me if I am a player. I just smirked, and said, "So you say". Just agreed and amplified, followed by a heavy make out session. Roissy rules. Ha

For dudes who aren't comfortable being super aggressive with kino, the easiest way to begin escalating at night is to purposely take her to a loud part of the bar or club where conversation is impossible, and then start a conversation.

When you both can't hear a damn thing the other one is saying, pulling her close, touching her shoulder, lower back, and/or waist to scream in her ear is the most natural thing in the world. Take the actions to make this situation happen. And if your rambling sucks to begin with, she can't hear you anyway. You can literally say any gibberish you want, as long as you touch her and then smile/laugh when you say it, she'll reciprocate if she's somewhat into you. Double win!

(06-09-2016 12:03 AM)Ensam Wrote:  Sent a bunch of restart texts - all to girls I've made out but who fell off before anything else. Two girls responded. One was free tonight, so we met up for a drink. Drove her back to her place, walked her to the door and she didn't stop me so I followed her upstairs. We chilled for a bit but the mood was never right to make a move. Dropped some bait earlier in the evening and she asked if I was free to hang out this weekend and we made plans. Other girl asked if I was free next week. I need to get better at steering conversations to build sexual tension.

Hey man - just be confident in yourself. If a chick goes out with you, brings you to her house, she wants you to put the moves on her. I usually just find a moment where we aren't talking, theres some tension, grab her fairly aggressively by the forearm or hand, pull her forcefully into me and kiss her. Girls like that shit. Dominance.

I still have mutual FB friends with my ex. She just had a kid. I saw the pics....



Lemme add something to the LTR Screening
- meet her friends asap
- meet her MOTHER asap.

Had I paid attention, the relationshit would not have gone that far.

WIA

So I'm gaming this girl in Iceland I met on tinder using location spoof. she asked me why I swiped right, so I said: I want my cock inside you, and a relationship too.

She sent me a love emoticon and insisted I Skype her.

aside from that, no approaches during day game but going out tonight.

Went out tonite and had some weed beforehand. Turned out to be psycho active. At the club two girls approached me because of looks but I was not able to spit any game because I was tripping balls. If they were recorded, one day those terrible attempts will be used to blackmail me.

Guys, I would really appreciate a comment from you regarding this scenario.

Short version:
Do you care if other women notice you whilst you are looking at an other girls nice face/body/legs for a couple of seconds?

Long version:
Let's assume you are in a setting where people stand in small groups and talk to each other. The distance between each group can be 5-20m.

It happens that a cute girl comes along with her friend and you spot them, then I check out her nice body. It takes only 2-4 seconds.

But I always feel guilty because it's like every other women immediately noticed that and looks at me. Not in a shameful way, they just look at me for a blink of a second and then turn back to their counterpart.

I wonder why is this? Are they envious that I don't look to them? What's the unconscious meaning here?

Scenario:
   

Thanks!

(06-11-2016 10:22 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Lemme add something to the LTR Screening
- meet her friends asap
- meet her MOTHER asap.

Had I paid attention, the relationshit would not have gone that far.

WIA

I'll add one more
- spend a couple of days with the girl as soon as you can. Stay in her house for a week or go on a trip or vacation together. Whatever. The fastest way to see through all the bullshit.

Got up early yesterday and lifted. Went downtown. Opened secretly cute Asian girl with back pack about socks in bookstore. Should've asked an opinion instead of made statement - like Roosh in day bang.
Saw a play. Opened a tourist with bad English sitting on whatsapp while waiting for the show to start. Spotted a cute chick and sneakily changed my seat.

Opened cute chick, who turned out to be Filipina, two seats over afterwards. Talked to her for about 15 minutes after show as we waited to say hey to people we knew. Dude she knows comes out, I'm %95 certain dudes a homo even though they go out hand in hand. Didn't number close. Coulda been faster thinking, but it was a weird situation as far as timing.
Met a few new people through my friend, went out to lunch. Guy who invited us was a buffoon with a hot Eastern European wife. She turned out to be pretty cool. Asked me out of the blue what sports I play, I think probably b/c she was checking out my arms.
Left after with a 27 yr old blonde writer who was with us. Thin, plain face but skinny and intelligent. Number closed her.

Went on an early eve tinder date. Very good personality but just not quite sexy really. Also had some gnarly skin tags. Definitely came off as more attractive because I didn't give a shit.
I just can't pull out my A game though and push when I don't find the chick that cute.
Made out with her at the end of the date, went home and watched bad TV and ate leftover steak.

(06-12-2016 06:23 AM)XXL Wrote:  

(06-11-2016 10:22 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Lemme add something to the LTR Screening
- meet her friends asap
- meet her MOTHER asap.

Had I paid attention, the relationshit would not have gone that far.

WIA

I'll add one more
- spend a couple of days with the girl as soon as you can. Stay in her house for a week or go on a trip or vacation together. Whatever. The fastest way to see through all the bullshit.

Oh man, cosign that. My ex and I were horrible together under stress, and she was most definitely not a "take it as it comes" type. I remember going on a trip a few months before we got engaged with some friends of mine, to NYC and then on to my parents to meet them (I was starting to think marriage and it seemed like time for that step). She was a drag to my friends (my buddy finally discreetly told me that they were going to split up and meet us for dinner), and she threw little fits over everything not being perfect. I remember riding the train from NYC to my parents' house and she wouldn't even sit in the same seat as me - she sat across the aisle and pouted.

I look back and that was a gigantic, screaming red flag. I was such an idiot that I felt relieved when we made up, but I should have ended that relationship, or at least put my foot down on her behavior and told her to grow up. She did grow up some, but in the end she is still the entitled, spoiled, teenage-acting cunt at 45 that she was at 28.

Like MikeCF said in a recent podcast, people very rarely change, so it's a waste of time trying to get them to change.

*starts list of behavioral clues*


Mother - a glimpse into her biological future

Friends - who is influencing her, and how much you can get them to fall in line

Trip - when she doesn't or you don't have your normal outlets, when things don't go right - is she a pain to be with or a pleasure.

Reminds me of that scene in Mad Men, where the French secretary (Megan)is out with Don and his children. Don's daughter knocks over a milkshake causing a huge mess. The previous chick Don was banging was horrible in those situations (same with his ex-wife), but Megan was calm and knew how to handle it without there being a huge event. I think the next scene he announces he's going to marry her.

That being said it's hard to find out this stuff early on when it's easy to break it off. When you do find out, you need the strength to break it off quick.

WIA

Whenever two RVF members put together a scheme:

went out last night after reading roosh blog on likely outcomes after 20 approaches. I have been doing it wrong the whole time - getting discouraged after a couple rejections.

Last night was different. Approached six girls that are 6-7. Number closed one, rejected by three, two awkward moments

For some reason, Eastern European girls just flock towards me. this happens always. Im in North America btw.