Had first make out of the year last night. German chick who had said two weeks ago that she only wanted to be friends, nothing more. I didn't see any point of being friends with women, but I decided to experiment thsi whole thing by myself and see where that goes. When we met I had already another FWB so whatever we'll see. She just came back from a South America trip and I texted her for a glass of wine in a bar I like in which I could also approach other chicks. I decided fuck it I will run standard game ignoring her request of just being friends. Heavy make out and she wants to dance salsa with me tonight. Hopefully I'll close the deal then.

What's the game plan you guys follow when a girl you banged a long time ago contacts you again? This is not an ex, we just fucked one time and that was that.

In my case she's texting me ~9 months later with "Hey! What's up? ". The odds say she's starved of attention and/or bored. Not sure how to proceed, I do want the bang again.

Been on a no fap course since December.
The thirst has been almighty...

Scored my first bang of 2016,
& also my first bang since I dumped my LTR. (R.I.P)

Bye baby.

Banged her our twice, might go for a third.
I've got soccer practise in an hour...

Lol. I should keep something in the tank.
But then again... Scoring builds momentum right? (pun intended)

(01-08-2016 07:30 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  What's the game plan you guys follow when a girl you banged a long time ago contacts you again? This is not an ex, we just fucked one time and that was that.

In my case she's texting me ~9 months later with "Hey! What's up? ". The odds say she's starved of attention and/or bored. Not sure how to proceed, I do want the bang again.

Business as usual.

"lets catch up over drinks sometime"

3rd date of the week

Mid twenties - 7 - Dominican/Spanish/Tahitian, absolutely cute bubbly girl, maybe 5'3 with heels

Works in design (support and customer service) and is a bit nerdy

Active and does ballet - read - nice body, and nice booty


We met up at the same bar I've been to near my work with the other 2 girls. By this time the bartender recognized me and knows the score, always gives me great service.

Grab a round of drinks, chat a bit, turns out her father died when she was very young, she's in this town by herself but has made friends. Lives solo by the beach, always is active, likes doing nerdy things.

We shoot some pool, I help her out a bit, then we sit in a booth and chat some more. My ramble starts slowing down and the stops, we sit there quiet for a minute watching TV. I say "gotta love awkward silences" she laughs and says "I don't mind" and I talk about Pulp Fiction and how it's from there.

She goes to the restroom, this bitch was in there for what felt like 10 minutes, I honestly thought she bailed, apparently her mother called and she was talking to her, but she didn't want to interrupt her.

I flat out told my date that I was about to leave, I kept teasing her the rest of the night about it. We play another game of pool, we bounce and I walk her to her car and tell her she's driving me to mine.

She pulls up to my car, we talk about our car accidents, I give her a hug, makeout with her, her grabs my neck softly, I pull away, tell her to text me when she gets home.

She texts me, I don't respond, now I'm at work, I left my phone at home, it's actually nice not having it.

Logistically speaking it'll be a challenge pulling her to my place since it's a bit of a drive, but under the guise of making dinner and grabbing a drink at her place watching some nerdy documentary might just work.

We'll see what happens with her, she's definitely a quality girl.

Anyone ever try insinuating to a plate who is shit testing with ghosting/flaking that it's "no big deal, I'll go to my contingency back up girl tonite " ?

I actually did that once, before I had much proficiency in game and it worked. It was a first date no less and she showed up that night for a great date.

I had a date lined up tonight with a plate tonight that was a scheduled bang. She even suggested today as she wanted to wait until she was done with her period. She has her period at the first of each month and I know this from previous experience, so, banging was on her mind when we scheduled it last week.

Fast forward to today. We exchanged texts earlier. When I asked her what time she was coming over she's been radio silent for like 4 hours now.

In the back of my mind, I knew scheduling it so far out was "too much time". Young girls just can't hold out plans that long. She was all gung on texts last week setting up the date and today....you know.

I'm think I'm going no contact until next week However, I was entertaining the idea of mentioning it was no problem if she couldn't meet tonight. and follow it with something like "I'll just go with one of my backup girls haha"

Hell, she's probably hanging with her friends. She is, after all, 19.

(01-08-2016 05:12 PM)robreke Wrote:  Anyone ever try insinuating to a plate who is shit testing with ghosting/flaking that it's "no big deal, I'll go to my contingency back up girl tonite " ?

I actually did that once, before I had much proficiency in game and it worked. It was a first date no less and she showed up that night for a great date.

I had a date lined up tonight with a plate tonight that was a scheduled bang. She even suggested today as she wanted to wait until she was done with her period. She has her period at the first of each month and I know this from previous experience, so, banging was on her mind when we scheduled it last week.

Fast forward to today. We exchanged texts earlier. When I asked her what time she was coming over she's been radio silent for like 4 hours now.

In the back of my mind, I knew scheduling it so far out was "too much time". Young girls just can't hold out plans that long. She was all gung on texts last week setting up the date and today....you know.

I'm think I'm going no contact until next week However, I was entertaining the idea of mentioning it was no problem if she couldn't meet tonight. and follow it with something like "I'll just go with one of my backup girls haha"

Hell, she's probably hanging with her friends. She is, after all, 19.

Don't send any more follow up texts. If after a reasonable amount of time (you decide that) she hasn't gotten back to you write her off for the night. If she contacts you after that point of no return time, get back to her a couple of hours later saying that you made other plans and for her to hit you up next week. Even if those plans are you staying home and reading a book or watching a movie. She needs to be trained that your time is valuable and robreke's fun bus is leaving with or without her.

Maybe she still feels gross about her period. You never know what a girl's excuse can be.

It's not your problem, you still have time to double book girls. I always do.

I don't stress about a girl not texting me, that's the beauty of abundance.


I'd feel a little immature and sound butt hurt saying "well I'll just go to my back up girl". It doesn't sit right in my gut, unless a bitch did something to really piss me off.

(01-08-2016 07:30 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  What's the game plan you guys follow when a girl you banged a long time ago contacts you again? This is not an ex, we just fucked one time and that was that.

In my case she's texting me ~9 months later with "Hey! What's up? ". The odds say she's starved of attention and/or bored. Not sure how to proceed, I do want the bang again.

9 months.. Run like hell!

(01-07-2016 12:42 PM)toejam Wrote:  Anyone ever get into banging a chick while husband watches? Some hot milf just presented that to me.
Kinda freaky the whole idea. She wants us all to meet for drinks on her dime

I was invited to a concert with bang after with cute blonde, 25, while hubby jacks off in the closet at a nearby hotel. I passed.

(01-08-2016 05:12 PM)robreke Wrote:  Anyone ever try insinuating to a plate who is shit testing with ghosting/flaking that it's "no big deal, I'll go to my contingency back up girl tonite " ?

I actually did that once, before I had much proficiency in game and it worked. It was a first date no less and she showed up that night for a great date.

I did the same thing with a young college girl who flaked on date #3. Texted her I was having drinks with 2 models at another bar when I responded a couple hours later. Worked wonders, ended up banging 2 days later, that night, and she came over again following night.

(01-08-2016 06:03 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

(01-08-2016 05:12 PM)robreke Wrote:  Anyone ever try insinuating to a plate who is shit testing with ghosting/flaking that it's "no big deal, I'll go to my contingency back up girl tonite " ?

I actually did that once, before I had much proficiency in game and it worked. It was a first date no less and she showed up that night for a great date.

I did the same thing with a young college girl who flaked on date #3. Texted her I was having drinks with 2 models at another bar when I responded a couple hours later. Worked wonders, ended up banging 2 days later, that night, and she came over again following night.

Interesting Rob, were you pushing for the bang on date 1 and 2 ? Some backstory on what the girl was thinking about would be helpful.

I tend to think if this is a girl you never met, number closed on cold approach, and dropped that line, she'd just laugh never text you again.

I think the scenario is different when she's invested some time into you, that this might play out well, maybe the fear of losing you (a good catch).

(01-08-2016 06:14 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(01-08-2016 06:03 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

(01-08-2016 05:12 PM)robreke Wrote:  Anyone ever try insinuating to a plate who is shit testing with ghosting/flaking that it's "no big deal, I'll go to my contingency back up girl tonite " ?

I actually did that once, before I had much proficiency in game and it worked. It was a first date no less and she showed up that night for a great date.

I did the same thing with a young college girl who flaked on date #3. Texted her I was having drinks with 2 models at another bar when I responded a couple hours later. Worked wonders, ended up banging 2 days later, that night, and she came over again following night.

Interesting Rob, were you pushing for the bang on date 1 and 2 ? Some backstory on what the girl was thinking about would be helpful.

I tend to think if this is a girl you never met, number closed on cold approach, and dropped that line, she'd just laugh never text you again.

I think the scenario is different when she's invested some time into you, that this might play out well, maybe the fear of losing you (a good catch).

It was a girl I'd met online. She lived in another city and I had a trip planned there. We had corresponded for over a week via text and developed a little repartee.

When I landed and was confirming the date at the airport, she was being wishy washy and told her just to let me know as I had some other girls from the site that wanted to meet. and "I'd rather hang with you as you seem cool but need to get my schedule down" She kind of straightened up after that and asked if a little later would be okay.

She showed up at the hotel I was staying at and it turned out being a good evening. I saw her a few more times.

(01-08-2016 06:37 PM)robreke Wrote:  

(01-08-2016 06:14 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(01-08-2016 06:03 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

(01-08-2016 05:12 PM)robreke Wrote:  Anyone ever try insinuating to a plate who is shit testing with ghosting/flaking that it's "no big deal, I'll go to my contingency back up girl tonite " ?

I actually did that once, before I had much proficiency in game and it worked. It was a first date no less and she showed up that night for a great date.

I did the same thing with a young college girl who flaked on date #3. Texted her I was having drinks with 2 models at another bar when I responded a couple hours later. Worked wonders, ended up banging 2 days later, that night, and she came over again following night.

Interesting Rob, were you pushing for the bang on date 1 and 2 ? Some backstory on what the girl was thinking about would be helpful.

I tend to think if this is a girl you never met, number closed on cold approach, and dropped that line, she'd just laugh never text you again.

I think the scenario is different when she's invested some time into you, that this might play out well, maybe the fear of losing you (a good catch).

It was a girl I'd met online. She lived in another city and I had a trip planned there. We had corresponded for over a week via text and developed a little repartee.

When I landed and was confirming the date at the airport, she was being wishy washy and told her just to let me know as I had some other girls from the site that wanted to meet. and "I'd rather hang with you as you seem cool but need to get my schedule down" She kind of straightened up after that and asked if a little later would be okay.

She showed up at the hotel I was staying at and it turned out being a good evening. I saw her a few more times.

Can't setup a perfect situation like that better, so she probably knew the score from the get go. Good stuff.

I've framed things like that with girls that are wishy washy - but I've dropped things like what you did, needed my schedule locked down, my times limited, i can make other plans, I'll have other plans, should we reschedule then?, etc.

It either makes them commit, or you eject them from the hot slot and replace it with a girl you double booked.

After 2 flakes tried setting things up with a six that has an 8's body. She tried to twist the logistics for me to meet in the middle but I couldn't be bothered. She asked if its a must that we use the spot I picked and I held my ground on it.

OAN: I've only met up with 7s since starting game. Maybe that's a sign or something. Lower quality chicks are a hassle online. I'm not even asking them over to my spot or a bar.

Got my first bang this year last night. German chick (7) I made out the previous night who said she just wanted to be friends. We went to a club for dancing salsa/merengue and I drove her home and used the can i use the bathroom move. (+1 rep to Roosh). I was banging her 5 minutes later. First wrapped but second raw, I just couldn't resist as always (yeah I know). Good sex but she didn't want to give head even though I went down on her first. I slept over and she made me breakfast, we ate and I left.

(01-08-2016 06:37 PM)robreke Wrote:  It was a girl I'd met online. She lived in another city and I had a trip planned there. We had corresponded for over a week via text and developed a little repartee.

When I landed and was confirming the date at the airport, she was being wishy washy and told her just to let me know as I had some other girls from the site that wanted to meet. and "I'd rather hang with you as you seem cool but need to get my schedule down" She kind of straightened up after that and asked if a little later would be okay.

She showed up at the hotel I was staying at and it turned out being a good evening. I saw her a few more times.

Are you talking about an SA girl here? If so, that's a cat of a different color.

With a normal girl who doesn't respond to a confirmation text or is waffling on the day of the date, I just don't text her back. If she does text me and say she's going to show shortly before the scheduled time, I say "I didn't hear back from you, so I figured you couldn't make it tonight and made other plans. Maybe we can meet up next week." By that point I will have other plans-back up girl or whatever. She needs to know my time is more valuable than hers and I won't stand by waiting for her to commit, but I don't threaten or act butthurt about it.

SA girls need to be handled a lot differently though. To me, they are essentially applying for a job and if they act flaky I think they should know that I am considering other applicants for the position. Especially when they have been in other cities, I have let them know if the issue arises that I have meetings set up with other girls. Put them in their place. If they are the submissive type they will like it, and if they are arrogant little bitches they deserve it.

^^^^^ nice MrXY

Met up with the girl I made out with last night. She was with some friends and the vibe was off. Ended up calling it an early night. Should have isolated and escalated more during the first encounter or spent more time building attraction before seeing her again. Charge it to the game.

This is a little unrelated, but have you guys ever met dudes who claim that they get laid with little to no effort? In the words of one of my friends, he literally doesn't believe that he's actually going to fuck a girl until his dick in her mouth--and yet this guy does pretty well for himself. He's banging two fairly cute girls in a Bay Area suburb that's notorious for being boring and difficult to get laid in. I find this interesting because I personally need to cold approach in order to meet women, and even when I do rely on social circle of some sort, I still need to put in some amount of work via texting, dates, etc in order to actually close. I've had a miniscule number of lays that simply fell into my lap, and they were rarely with very attractive women...so what's the consensus on claims that "not trying works?"

@Agastya: Not to sound trollish, but there is little point in argueing with a natural. Maybe his passive value is high enough or his upbringing made him already charming to women.

When I go out, I sometimes hear guys bragging about how 'easier' it is to bang girls abroad, and how local girls are harder nuts to crack. I prefer to stay silent and not brag. If I wanted to brag, I'd better have my arm around a 9 when entering the venue.

As some saint said: "From what you hear, believe nothing. From what you see, believe only half."

10 approaches for me today! That's a new record for me,man damn its my first time in night game for a good 4 months. I just felt like I unscrewed champagne bottle stress I've been having from not being able to go out because I've been so busy with school. I was 2/2 for day game appoaches and 0/8 at night game. Those day game numbers probably won't amount to shit because the conversation was so short, those bitches were on the move . Ahh fuck it, I'm just happy I'm back in the game. I feel alive again!

First date for me in what has to be months. Between getting a job and finishing up my last serious semester at college, I've been a bit too dependent on plates and focusing on the other aspects of self-improvement: securing a job, being more well read, learning a few more languages.

Rust showed pretty badly; on the way there I had to fall back on my most essential mantra of conversation and couldn't recall most of the other stuff about building attraction, teasing, etc. (no politics, religion or school, focus on travel, food, and entertainment).

Went to a restaurant I wanted to go to anyways while I was in town. During I fished for her logistics situation (dorm at a university about 10 minutes away, with parking, absent roommate), and after we finished I tried to suggest we go there and watch a TV series she suggested. (took it from her Tinder profile, said she loved recommending shows) She shot that down, thinking quickly I bounced to a local mall with theater. On a Sunday night, the theater was about all I had; I basically went full throwback to fucking high school.

Apparently I must have internalized some attraction building by now, or my dress/looks game is improved from last time I was on a date, because I put up the armrest and she immediately snuggled on up and let my hand hover around her cleavage and fondling her breast. After some deep eye contact, we exchanged some brief kisses. Solid. First mistake here. I WENT FULL RETARD and didn't choose the very back row, and people sat down behind us, limiting my action. I have no idea why I did this. At this point, my plan of attack was to wait for the lights to slip my hand under her shirt.

Second, final, and fatal mistake here. She was perfectly comfortable with me playing around with her tit for at least 10 minutes. But at one point she shifted and my arm went lower around her hip, with my hand right at her crotch level. I play with her panty waistband and start rubbing through the cloth. No go, pushes my hand away, only holding hands for the rest of the movie. At least it was the new Quentin Tarantino movie, so I had something interesting to watch.

Takeaway: I didn't escalate properly. I got overconfident and thought I could take advantage of some lucky positioning to start turning her on right away. Way too fast, when she clearly indicated she was willing to get escalated on normally. Shot myself in both feet with theater placement too. Still, I'm back in the saddle, one way or another.

(01-10-2016 03:48 AM)Phil Jackson Wrote:  10 approaches for me today! That's a new record for me,man damn its my first time in night game for a good 4 months. I just felt like I unscrewed champagne bottle stress I've been having from not being able to go out because I've been so busy with school. I was 2/2 for day game appoaches and 0/8 at night game. Those day game numbers probably won't amount to shit because the conversation was so short, those bitches were on the move . Ahh fuck it, I'm just happy I'm back in the game. I feel alive again!

I'm happy for ya bro. What a Time to be Alive. It a New Year and tons of new opportunities for you to approach and improve your skills.

I look forward to hearing about how your approaches went in the approach thread.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-14130-page-104.html

(01-11-2016 12:06 AM)swuglyfe Wrote:  Apparently I must have internalized some attraction building by now, or my dress/looks game is improved from last time I was on a date, because I put up the armrest and she immediately snuggled on up and let my hand hover around her cleavage and fondling her breast. After some deep eye contact, we exchanged some brief kisses. Solid. First mistake here. I WENT FULL RETARD and didn't choose the very back row, and people sat down behind us, limiting my action. I have no idea why I did this. At this point, my plan of attack was to wait for the lights to slip my hand under her shirt.

Second, final, and fatal mistake here. She was perfectly comfortable with me playing around with her tit for at least 10 minutes. But at one point she shifted and my arm went lower around her hip, with my hand right at her crotch level. I play with her panty waistband and start rubbing through the cloth. No go, pushes my hand away, only holding hands for the rest of the movie. At least it was the new Quentin Tarantino movie, so I had something interesting to watch.

Takeaway: I didn't escalate properly. I got overconfident and thought I could take advantage of some lucky positioning to start turning her on right away. Way too fast, when she clearly indicated she was willing to get escalated on normally. Shot myself in both feet with theater placement too. Still, I'm back in the saddle, one way or another.

Don't beat yourself up. You've been out of the game for a long time and you came back aggressive already kissing, touching a girls tittayz in a movie theater and then almost fingering her while other people were in back of you.

You said you were eating at a restaurant with her and checked logistics back at her dorm but she turned the offer down. That's not your fault. You just adapted according to the situation and tried the next best thing.

The only mistake you made was not sitting in the back of the theater.

You were able to escalate nicely while other guys that take girls on dates to the movies are to scared to escalate that aggressively and end up just putting their arm around the girls should.

I would like to say welcome back to the game. I hope you post some more great experiences as you progress this year.

Whenever you catch yourself saying "it was worth the price" when discussing amount of money/labor you invested into a girl, you are rationalizing your own exploitation. It's never rationally worth the price. You played the game by someone else's rules.