Post: #9276

Sounds textbook to me. Must be missing a clue.

Post: #9277

Hmm, I'm really trying to think. I don't spend a lot of money on a girl, especially before she puts out and even then I keep it limited to as little financial investment possible. I don't get into dark or heavy subject matter, I keep it light, fun and positive when we're hanging out. I keep contact mostly logistical and save conversation for actual hangouts. They seem to enjoy themselves sexually, I don't have any kinks that are too far outside the realm of normal -- anal is about as "taboo" a thing as I am into. Maybe it's just poor screening on my part or subconsciously being attracted to a similar "type" of girl (not so much physically but personality-wise)? Sooner or later, they want to go back to the boyfriends they have "history" with.

Post: #9278

Spending more than $20 on a girl you haven't banged is not a very smart investment imo

Post: #9279

Money is relative to your personal financial situation. $20 to a broke college student holds different weight than it does a wealthy business owner. Money is just a means to an end.

I ghosted the girl who I had lined up for tonight because I decided to kick it with my main all day. Happy with my decision.

Post: #9280

Got a new notch from this cutie black mom with massive real tits - she did have mom bod, but made up for it in her head game skills, love a sloppy blowjob.

I've been nonstop since Weds of last week:

Wed - New Chinese notch, didn't get much sleep
Thursday - Social Game Nympho notch, didn't sleep much, lots of banging
Friday - Packed for national park trip- went to bed late woke up super early Saturday
Saturday - Hungout and rode with friends at national park, came back home, partied till 3 at my friends bday
Sunday - Worked, cooked, bailed on amazing body/butterface girl, got a new black milf notch

It's all catching up to me, I'm tired, I'm still sick, I'm not feeling any better, I need sleep.

Yet here I go pipelining this week with new girls - today I'm chilling the fuck out after work - I want some time with the main.

Post: #9281

(01-15-2017 11:05 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  Hmm, I'm really trying to think. I don't spend a lot of money on a girl, especially before she puts out and even then I keep it limited to as little financial investment possible. I don't get into dark or heavy subject matter, I keep it light, fun and positive when we're hanging out. I keep contact mostly logistical and save conversation for actual hangouts. They seem to enjoy themselves sexually, I don't have any kinks that are too far outside the realm of normal -- anal is about as "taboo" a thing as I am into. Maybe it's just poor screening on my part or subconsciously being attracted to a similar "type" of girl (not so much physically but personality-wise)? Sooner or later, they want to go back to the boyfriends they have "history" with.

I'd change your mindset from "why are they going back to their ex?" to "why am I not hooking these girls?"

If your game is on point, they should be addicted to you.

Post: #9282

Met 2 new girls through OKC last week. The first girl had a massive overbite, but when the conversation turned sexual she informed me she was a squirter. Never had one of those, so I may be pursuing making her a notch. Not a great body, but not fat...So that's good.

The second OKC girl had a great body but her face...Ugh. Pretty sure she is a former smoker has her face has all the lines and warped look to it to say she was. Didn't kiss her at the end, just a friendly hug. I had high hopes for her.

Spent the last few days with my main. I guess she kicked her hubby out...But I hope she isn't going to get any ideas about us becoming more serious. I like her a lot, but not that much to stop banging other girls.

Post: #9283

(01-06-2017 09:58 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  So there was this filipina I've been seeing off and on over the past year and half... from this thread:

/thread-51920.html

I've talked a lot with thoughtgypsy offline about how to screen for wife material in the Philippines, and I applied his advice when talking with her online as well as when I went back to Manila to visit her.

The more I learned about her, the more concerns I had about a future with her. The fact that she had a kid already wasn't even the top concern. I don't want to go into much detail, but there were a couple other issues I've discovered (e.g. money-related, and the ex possibly being still in the picture).

I kept doing what I'm doing, focusing on my business, traveling, spinning plates, etc. She and I have kept in touch, but just after the new year she made a comment that I really did not like. I said something to the effect of "what do you mean by that exactly? I don't like the sound of that" Her response didn't help, so I did not respond.

It's been 5 days, and she hasn't responded either. I didn't reinitiate the conversation either because I'm too busy traveling and stuff. The conversation had been completely left hanging.

So I think we're done. It's a bit of a relief that I don't have to wrestle with "what-if" questions around her, but it's also a bit sad because she meant a lot to me. She restored my faith in women after getting burned in a divorce, and she is genuinely a nice girl. But she isn't the right person for me, in terms of a wife.

There's nothing to do or say, except keep pressing on...

So we started talking again, and she brought up questions about our future.

I told her honestly, and as gently as possible, that I don't see a future with her and I don't want to commit to something that I may not be able to stay committed to.

She took it surprisingly well. I think she already this knew deep down, and this conversation made it as clear and certain as it could be. She was thanking me profusely for the memories we've made together, and I told her she'd always have a special place in my heart.

While we are parting as amicably as possible, it still hurts.

As cliche as it sounds -- when you really love someone, you let her go.

Ahh, fuck it. I'm out.

Post: #9284

(01-17-2017 12:06 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 09:58 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  So there was this filipina I've been seeing off and on over the past year and half... from this thread:

/thread-51920.html

I've talked a lot with thoughtgypsy offline about how to screen for wife material in the Philippines, and I applied his advice when talking with her online as well as when I went back to Manila to visit her.

The more I learned about her, the more concerns I had about a future with her. The fact that she had a kid already wasn't even the top concern. I don't want to go into much detail, but there were a couple other issues I've discovered (e.g. money-related, and the ex possibly being still in the picture).

I kept doing what I'm doing, focusing on my business, traveling, spinning plates, etc. She and I have kept in touch, but just after the new year she made a comment that I really did not like. I said something to the effect of "what do you mean by that exactly? I don't like the sound of that" Her response didn't help, so I did not respond.

It's been 5 days, and she hasn't responded either. I didn't reinitiate the conversation either because I'm too busy traveling and stuff. The conversation had been completely left hanging.

So I think we're done. It's a bit of a relief that I don't have to wrestle with "what-if" questions around her, but it's also a bit sad because she meant a lot to me. She restored my faith in women after getting burned in a divorce, and she is genuinely a nice girl. But she isn't the right person for me, in terms of a wife.

There's nothing to do or say, except keep pressing on...

So we started talking again, and she brought up questions about our future.

I told her honestly, and as gently as possible, that I don't see a future with her and I don't want to commit to something that I may not be able to stay committed to.

She took it surprisingly well. I think she already this knew deep down, and this conversation made it as clear and certain as it could be. She was thanking me profusely for the memories we've made together, and I told her she'd always have a special place in my heart.

While we are parting as amicably as possible, it still hurts.

As cliche as it sounds -- when you really love someone, you let her go.

Ahh, fuck it. I'm out.

God damn brother is what it is. It'll fade it'll fade. Cheers and good luck!

Post: #9285

Hey I'm not really up on my app game but I got a question.

Is KIK primarily for hoes or what?

Post: #9286

I forget how fucking fat our culture is. I see all the stats. I see you guys' posts. I see everything, but being off Tinder for over a year, the fatness never really got to me emotionally.

I mean, yeah, I'm out and about and socializing, but that's still a demographic that is slimmer than the average.

So I finally jumped on Tinder the other day. Wowzer. These fucking fat hambeasts. Now I get, on an emotional level, the outrage.

I actually had to show my sister, who like me, hates fat people. I had her swipe for me some just to get an idea. What's really sad is how Tinder is more representative of the general public than, again, going out and socializing with people (gym, bar, restaurant, sporting event, etc).

Post: #9287

(01-17-2017 11:07 AM)heavy Wrote:  I forget how fucking fat our culture is. I see all the stats. I see you guys' posts. I see everything, but being off Tinder for over a year, the fatness never really got to me emotionally.

I mean, yeah, I'm out and about and socializing, but that's still a demographic that is slimmer than the average.

So I finally jumped on Tinder the other day. Wowzer. These fucking fat hambeasts. Now I get, on an emotional level, the outrage.

I actually had to show my sister, who like me, hates fat people. I had her swipe for me some just to get an idea. What's really sad is how Tinder is more representative of the general public than, again, going out and socializing with people (gym, bar, restaurant, sporting event, etc).

Yep. And the anger, at least from me, is the audacity of these landwhales to have such high standards for men (over 6 feet tall, 100k, 8 inch dick). They just sit on their couches all day, drinking their 800 calorie Starbucks drink and just KNOW they deserve a man like that.

These fucking hogs need a reality check.

Post: #9288

(01-15-2017 11:05 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  Hmm, I'm really trying to think. I don't spend a lot of money on a girl, especially before she puts out and even then I keep it limited to as little financial investment possible. I don't get into dark or heavy subject matter, I keep it light, fun and positive when we're hanging out. I keep contact mostly logistical and save conversation for actual hangouts. They seem to enjoy themselves sexually, I don't have any kinks that are too far outside the realm of normal -- anal is about as "taboo" a thing as I am into. Maybe it's just poor screening on my part or subconsciously being attracted to a similar "type" of girl (not so much physically but personality-wise)? Sooner or later, they want to go back to the boyfriends they have "history" with.

I think you'll find its because you're not hooking them emotionally. Sure they are having fun and the sex is good but if you're not making them feel it then they'll likely go back to someone who did or find someone else who does.
Either that or you're hooking up with girls on the rebound who are just using you to get something out of their system before going back to their ex.

Post: #9289

I'm loving this Roosh podcast.

Post: #9290

Roosh that --^^-- was depressing. True, but depressing.

It makes me just want to go approach and go caveman all the time and not really give a fuck.

Post: #9291

Roosh's podcast further solidifies my preference for day game.

Post: #9292

I've been smashing a lot of new girls lately, don't even know whats going on anymore but this year started in the right direction. Hope you players are having a good one.

Post: #9293

(01-14-2017 10:22 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(01-14-2017 07:39 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(01-14-2017 06:26 PM)XXL Wrote:  Im thinking of going after this super hot bartender chick with a kid that I met on wedding recently. I can already hear RVF screaming against it

What's wrong with that? Bartenders are sluts, and she has a kid so you know she is down with creampies. Plow away homie.

100% agreed.

Just because a bitch has a kid doesn't mean she's automatically nexted.

Game her, wrap up, and smash her.

That's how it went..

I went to a wedding party. Unfortunately I'm injured so my fun was limited. In fact all I could do was to sit and talk. Nevermind. There was a hot as fuck waitress there. Thing is she was super busy that nigth. I had literally no time to even have a chat with her. Few short pleasantries will not do it. I knew my chances were slim unless I find evil genius inside me.

I started thinking creatively and decided to have some fun on my own. Some uncles talked to me and of course we ended up talking about women. And then of course we talked about women there. I told them I like that waitress the most but I don't know how to chat her up. I knew they would spread the word and eventually it would reach her. It did.

Best way to make someone feel superior enough to do shit for you? Make them feel they're better than you. I knew they would want to show poor me how it's done. They did. As they got drunk more and more they got more and more brave, talkative and pushy toward her. They told her about me that I liked her and that I was probably too shy to talk to her. Good. First mixed signal sent.

I noticed few times she glanced at my direction from a distance but I'm not sure if she's looking specifically at me or not. When she was around me she was just focused on her work and avoided any eye contact.

Later uncles bragged to me about talking to that girl and told me her full name. Good avatars [If they failed I'd come up to her on my way to door as a last resort effort just to thank for the night and ask her name]. Night was over.

Next day I found her on facebook and sent her a message..

"hey I'm that injured guy from yesterday's wedding party. I'll be honest with you, you caught my attention and you've been on my mind since then. I didn't want to bother you at work you were very busy that night. I didn't want you to be nice to me just out of your work etiquette. I want to meet you. Preferably this week.

If you're not interested just tell me to fuck off and I'm gone, we're adults, we're not going to waste our time.

Name"

Straightforward and to the point. I needed a strong message to really get to her and destroy that "shy" image. Mixed signals for the win. Still, I thought she would ignore me. She's miss popular party girl with plenty of friends, photos and comments on her profile, she didn't need another. She happily responded though. And she was kind of impressed by my ballsy approach [there's nothing ballsy about online messages but oh well]. Conversation started. It was easy at first cause she was emotional so convo flowed.

Sometimes I hesitate what to do in following days. I messaged later next day in the afternoon about something relevant to previous conversation, it was some songs, links, etc. It went from then and stopped at talking about kissing and something sexy, but in nice way. It's texting after all, shit can be misunderstood very easy. I learned it the hard way.

2 texting sessions later her curiosity is eating her alive and she cannot wait to meet up with me. I could post texting exchange if anyone want but I think you will be disappointed. No flashy weird shit. Just normal chit chat, some remainders about my intentions, some flirting between the verses.

It reminded me again how important it is to just stay cool and friendly with very attractive girls and how positive impact it has. Less is more. Few reminders..

+ Few times I had to stop myself to write another thing to her to fill the void when she wasn't responding for a couple of minutes. Social vaccum is good. Get comfortable with tension in the air.

+ Honest brevity has better impact when you're expressing your intent than elaborate explanations.

+ Creativity is helps to push things forward. Like saying.. OK I found you online, now I'm trying to figure out your phone number. I want to hear your voice, I like it. If I succeed you we go to restaurant and everything is on you.

Post: #9294

^while that is a neat story XXL, I can't condone:

A: Avoiding talking to a girl and trying/hoping to get others to talk to her for you.

B: Stalking her profile in FB to get in touch with her.

C: Opening with a long and tryhard message.

I'm glad it worked for you (so far), but every part of that story oozed with fear of confrontation and weak non-action action. How did you even find a waitress at a wedding reception on FB? You search for the venue and find a list of people who listed themselves as working there? I don't like it

Post: #9295

Yeah gotta go with Stalin here XXL - this was a bit cringe worthy.

It seems like you made every excuse not to go up and talk to her because she was "busy", maybe you had some approach anxiety (which is fine, we all do)

Remember, a woman interested in you, will make time to talk to you.

Your message was a gamble and scored this round, but don't make this a habit.


If anything you should've hobbled over, chatted her up a bit, you KNOW she would've asked you about your injury, you could've made a funny ass story about it.

Jokingly tell her that you guys should hangout sometime and she can help take care of your injury, or something like that.

That would get her laughing, get her number, and boom.

This could be done in a 5 minute flat conversation.

Or go in for the number right before she closes up the bar.


Regardless, you got her stoked on you, congrats, I hope you pull the bang off and expect a I Just Had Sex write up !

Post: #9296

(01-17-2017 11:07 AM)heavy Wrote:  So I finally jumped on Tinder the other day. Wowzer. These fucking fat hambeasts. Now I get, on an emotional level, the outrage.

If you want a more horrifying experience, try GPS spoofing to some other select cities. I spoofed to some cities in Britain to check that out...... traumatizing wouldn't cut it. I had to walk around outside after to come to terms with it: dudes are going to stick their dick in that stuff? They were like spotty marshmallow monsters with no chin. Even if they were 20. I also spoofed to Brazil, expecting to see all these hotties everyone is talking about Brazil having. Instead, it was a horror show of monsters that I don't ever want to see again.

I think sometimes Tinder just isn't representative of the general female public. Depends a lot on the country, I think (and in those cases, hope).

Post: #9297

(01-18-2017 12:54 PM)kaotic Wrote:  If anything you should've hobbled over, chatted her up a bit, you KNOW she would've asked you about your injury, you could've made a funny ass story about it.

Jokingly tell her that you guys should hangout sometime and she can help take care of your injury, or something like that.

That would get her laughing, get her number, and boom.

This could be done in a 5 minute flat conversation.

Or go in for the number right before she closes up the bar.

Regardless, you got her stoked on you, congrats, I hope you pull the bang off and expect a I Just Had Sex write up !

Yeah, kaotic has it right. There's only one gaming with an injury specific thread that I know of and there's a couple good responses in it here:

/thread-33492.html

Post: #9298

When your bitch tells you that she is already a month on the pill and she did not tell you because she does not want you to cum in her and the first thing you do is that you fill her up with your load...

Post: #9299

@kaotic and Stalin

I understand your point of view. I did it on purpose. Situation was hopeless. Look....

1. I had to sit at a table all the time. Even if I could it would make little difference.

2. She was really busy, walking in a hurry bringing and taking stuff then disappearing in the kitchen.

3. I had 10 seconds of her attention when she was around me. I would not do shit in such timeframe either way. She would never give her phone number after few seconds of chit chat.

4. She wasn't chating with anyone, just exchanged few words with uncles who got drunk and were annoying.

5. I found her on fb by typing full name and name of town. she's too hot to miss.

6. My message was perfect. Short enough to read it and long enough to state I wanted. I dont get your critique. Was I suppose to text "Hey what up u free tmrw?" Any indirect shit would be creepy. What i sent wasn't cause it was direct and to the point

7. My message was not needy at all. You know why? Cause I emphasized that it's fine if she blows me out. She could reject me either way of course but because I TOLD HER THAT it makes all the difference. Girls view it as ballsy and cool.

8. Thats the difference between game theory and reality. Game doesn't have to be perfect or go smooth. Game is messy. You happen to be in certain situation and you can either try some shit to make it happen or not. I did it. Was it risky? Yes. Was it uncommon? Sure. Was it cringeworthy? Well... the girl herself is impressed by my approach so what more can I want? Im meeting up with a beautiful young girl soon who's digging me after some texting.

How would you guys handle it?

Post: #9300

(01-18-2017 03:48 PM)XXL Wrote:  @kaotic and Stalin

I understand your point of view. I did it on purpose. Situation was hopeless. Look....

1. I had to sit at a table all the time. Even if I could it would make little difference.

2. She was really busy, walking in a hurry bringing and taking stuff then disappearing in the kitchen.

3. I had 10 seconds of her attention when she was around me. I would not do shit in such timeframe either way. She would never give her phone number after few seconds of chit chat.

4. She wasn't chating with anyone, just exchanged few words with uncles who got drunk and were annoying.

5. I found her on fb by typing full name and name of town. she's too hot to miss.

6. My message was perfect. Short enough to read it and long enough to state I wanted. I dont get your critique. Was I suppose to text "Hey what up u free tmrw?" Any indirect shit would be creepy. What i sent wasn't cause it was direct and to the point

7. My message was not needy at all. You know why? Cause I emphasized that it's fine if she blows me out. She could reject me either way of course but because I TOLD HER THAT it makes all the difference. Girls view it as ballsy and cool.

8. Thats the difference between game theory and reality. Game doesn't have to be perfect or go smooth. Game is messy. You happen to be in certain situation and you can either try some shit to make it happen or not. I did it. Was it risky? Yes. Was it uncommon? Sure. Was it cringeworthy? Well... the girl herself is impressed by my approach so what more can I want? Im meeting up with a beautiful young girl soon who's digging me after some texting.

How would you guys handle it?

Im with XXL on this and honestly this is what i miss about game and why i look forward to WIA and XXL posts.

When i first got into game i used to be good at coming up with stuff like that but i kind of lost it along the way and cant get it structured in my head as i used to.

Anyway, a lot of guys here seem to think "whats the most seemingly alpha thing i can do" as opposed to "whats the best way to get the girl".

The first mindset is fine and all, but its not flexible. Its not nuanced or intricate enough for some situations and some type+quality of girls. Sure the alpha jocks get girls but the smooth player plays the game better.

If he had approached her, being her job, and being that shes very busy, and being a catered wedding, even if she admired his approach/liked him, her first reaction might have been to blow him off/give a dry response.

He didnt have a moment, vibe etc... in the wedding that he pussied out on and later resorted to online. In fact his whole plan was what created the vibe that he later capitalized on. He didnt send a friend to talk to her. It was older family. Thats funny/endearing, no girl would react or feel negatively about it.

The whole mixed signals thing is gold. alternating cocky and vulnerable mindfucks the girls.


Well played sir