Post: #9351

hey kaotic, how did you reply to: "Look whatever "this" is, isn't working for me. Getting texts days after we were supposed to hangout doesn't work form. I have a great time when we have hungout but that's only been 3 times since we started talking. From what I have gathered you seem like a great guy, I just need a little more. I'm not asking for a life long commitment but...."

you make it seem so easy man, I'm really jealous. This is the text (its content at least) I get the most, from girls I like the most. How exactly do you "soothe the hamster" in those situations?

Cheers for all the writeups; looks like you're gonna kill it in 2017

Post: #9352

(01-28-2017 07:51 AM)Snowflake Wrote:  hey kaotic, how did you reply to: "Look whatever "this" is, isn't working for me. Getting texts days after we were supposed to hangout doesn't work form. I have a great time when we have hungout but that's only been 3 times since we started talking. From what I have gathered you seem like a great guy, I just need a little more. I'm not asking for a life long commitment but...."

you make it seem so easy man, I'm really jealous. This is the text (its content at least) I get the most, from girls I like the most. How exactly do you "soothe the hamster" in those situations?

Cheers for all the writeups; looks like you're gonna kill it in 2017

I know you aren't being serious about being jealous, but you just read the forum and learn behind the steering wheel - every bitch is the same but you might have to come at girls differently.

I played it like I called her on a Friday, texted her sunday, then texted her Tuesday, told her "hey you never hit me up so I got the hint"

Flip the script, called her being bad at replying out.

The reason I didn't nuke her is because of that last part....she likes me, she likes hanging with me, she said "IT'S BEEN ONLY 3 TIMES".

Read: Look I like you, I want more of you, I WANT YOUR TIME.


She's chasing after me in the end.

She's also told me she hasn't made up her mind, trying to see where I stand in this situation, to see if I want something or just to hook up.

I soothed the hamster by saying I wouldn't be talking to her if I wasn't interested, I don't play games, and waste my time. If we want to see where this goes we'll have to hangout soon, as in early next week.

She countered with hanging earlier, then I planned the next day.

So then we smashed the next day.

Post: #9353

What's the best way of following up on a number from a short interaction? I saw this girl one night after the bars closed, talked to her for like 5 minutes, got the number.

I was preoccupied this week so haven't gotten around to re-initiating, and now I'm not sure of the best way to go about it.

Post: #9354

(01-29-2017 05:16 AM)glugger Wrote:  What's the best way of following up on a number from a short interaction? I saw this girl one night after the bars closed, talked to her for like 5 minutes, got the number.

I was preoccupied this week so haven't gotten around to re-initiating, and now I'm not sure of the best way to go about it.

I always opens girls with something cocky yet funny that include a reference to our interaction that resulted in the number. Like 'Hey, it's the handsome aussie guy from X bar, Roardog"
It's confident and gives her context for who this random number is but is also playful and usually generates an amused response.

Post: #9355

Iv got a girl that's confusing me a bit and I wonder how to play it.

I'll give you a bit of background and some of the messaging to give you a feel.

She's 27, stunning face and beautiful body. Im mid 30's, good looking and in good shape.
Matched on tinder and she seemed responsive.
Good banter straight off and she lives less than a mile from me.

I get her number and say I can't do the weekend but I'll msg her then to set up something for the following week.

Msg her Friday to say I'm actually free Saturday after all, she quickly says 'yes, where are we going?'

6pm Saturday she msgs to say she's stuck in traffic in the city and doesn't think she'll be back in time, can we make it next week?

I respond just 'no worries' and she immediately comes back with 'I take it u don't want to meet next week then?'

I say 'sure but it will have to be a late one because I train every night'

We agree 9:30 the following Wednesday.

No contact between Saturday and Wednesday, I get out of the shower at 9.15 Wednesday night to find she messaged me at 8:30 asking what's happening.

I phone her for the first time, and she hasn't got herself ready because she didn't hear from me.

Lightheartedly bust her ass, tell her to hurry up and text me when she's leaving.
She's a bit sulky, tried making an awkward silence which I made her break first but when she did it again, I hung up.
Thought fuck it im not dealing with her childish attitude.

10 mins later she phones me back, says she's getting ready, but it always takes her ages.

Messages me at 10:20 saying she's still not ready so I say 'it's too late now, I'm not going out with 40 mins to closing, let's do another time.'

I'm a bit pissed off thinking she's just a time waster but don't show it in my message.

She's replies simply 'ok' and I write her off as having low interest.

So I start making some food and then 10 mins later she texts 'what number do you live at?'

I push a bit and say 'another time babe I'm eating now'

She immediately phones me, indignant that I turned her down and says she has taken so long to get ready she is definitely coming round.

I play it a bit more and say 'no, I have a nice hot pot noodle waiting for me now' she's laughing asking if I'm actually blowing her off for a pot noodle?

I say get round here quick then and don't fuck around because if this gets cold and u don't show I will be pissed.

So that's an example of the kind of tone of our messaging has been, I won't bore you with any more if it, but I do know she responds to being pushed away.

Anyway, she came round, drank some wine, she seemed a bit tense and guarded but I escalated, kissing, got her into my bed and eventually down to just her thong but she was resisting there.
Really sensual vibe lots of kissing and caressing and to be honest, being a bit drunk, I remember feeling like I was getting drunk on her beauty too and probably ended up resisted myself a bit (don't laugh)

She left about 2:30am without us fucking.

Next day I think to myself I should have just pushed more and she probably thinks I'm a pussy for not!

She's got a 5 year old kid and split with the dad 3 years ago, only had 1 relationship since which she ended and 'claims' to have not had sex for 2 years.
Says most guys are lame and refuses to drop her standards, never texts guys first, is very stubborn and difficult etc.
Drops comments now and again like 'you don't realise how lucky u are that I'm so attracted to you, it just doesn't happen like this with me', I just laugh, tell her to fuck off and slap her on the ass, which I can tell she likes.

We text a bit the following evening and then 9 days passed til she came round again this Friday just gone.

In that time, very little messaging but what there was felt like a Cold War for power over who shows more interest.

She reached out, I ignored for a day, she sulked, blocked me, I laugh and ask her about it, she's short with me so I say let's cancel Friday I'm not getting the right vibe, she immediately comes running back but then realises it and pulls back again, all interspersed with days of silence.

Anyway, we meet up Friday, go for a drink, but I had just done an intense 2 hour wrestling session, not eaten and was coming down with flu so I really felt drained.
She also was tired and a little off.

We get back to mine, talk, drink wine, go to bed but the wine was really going to my head now, and the whole vibe was off, nothing like the first time.
Everything felt clunky and unatural, and I was probably rushing things out of tiredness but I did fuck her.

It wasn't good.

She was super tight, like difficult to even get a finger in, body felt tense and although she was making the right noises, I could just feel her resistance to letting me fully in.

Was ok for first 5 minutes or so but then she dried up and had to stop because she was getting sore, saying it was her first time in 2 years.

I was a bit pissed off but let it go, we chatted a bit and then she got a cab.

I mentioned to her while chatting that she wasn't letting me in physically and that her personality is the same, very guarded.
She agreed, saying shes been hurt and doesn't ever want to feel like that again.

Next day we text, she says she's a bit gutted it didn't go well, I say 'yeah maybe we don't click so we'll after all.'

She still seems keen, explaining she thinks we do click but it's been a long time for her, it's never going to be great first time, she's only met me twice so is not yet comfortable, have to get to know what each other likes etc. etc.

Radio silence again since.

We've agreed to meet up Thursday but something just doesn't feel right to me and I feel I should just long her off.

My gut says she is not over her baby dad, possibly telling the truth about not being with anyone for a long time and is just going through the motions with me hoping for some boyfriend benefits like company/affection/appeasing social pressure or whatever.
The medium is the message, she didn't want me in there!

But then it could be that is just my ego having butthurt thoughts and that she is attracted to me but is genuinely very guarded.
She hasn't blown me off after bad sex and is simply a case of us both having an off night because the first night vibe was so good in comparison.

At this point, I don't expect much from all this and just want to carry on fucking her for a while as she is beautiful to look at, but how to play it?

My thinking is if it's the former, I need to build more attraction and feel like pulling back even more and maybe even pushing again by cancelling Thursday. She will either chase or blow me off and that will be that. Providing too much comfort will definitely bore her.

If though it's the latter, and she is genuinely attracted but scared of giving up power, best to do nothing, give a little more comfort and let it play out on its own one way or another.
If I push too much trying to get a reaction, I may just push her away for good unnecessarily.
I realise that just by writing out such a long post I'm obviously more invested than I should be in this girl which is a bad start but any thoughts would be appreciated.

Cheers

Post: #9356

-Sounds like you need to date younger women.
-Sounds like she's a fucking pain in the ass.
-She's raping your time and playing games.
-When you put her foot down she comes running, you shouldn't have to do that.
-She's a single mom hitting the wall with a baby - nothing be need said more about that.
-You seemed a bit needy complaining to her, act more aloof, and like always don't put up with her shit.


You need to knock that pussy off the pedestal, this is an uptight bitch with a kid, single moms can the worst sometimes.

This whole story reeked of time wasting, I don't have patience for that and would've nexted her ass after I fucked her.

You can hangout with her again, try and up the comfort game, but if she's difficult, don't waste your time on that shit man.

Post: #9357

Hahaha that's just the kind of advice I needed to hear.

It's probably because she's the best looking and almost youngest so far since I got out of a 10 year marriage last summer.

But the trend is younger and better looking with each new girl so it's all good.

Thanks

Post: #9358

^^^^
I didn't read a word you wrote, though a quick solution to your overall problem is to download the podcast: The Beige Philip Show, hosted by Dante Nero

All your questions will be answered if you listen long enough

Post: #9359

I am not really sure if this is the correct place to post this. I think for the first time in my life I am experiencing player fatigue. I got out of an LTR and hit the ground running. I have never experienced the quantity and quality I've enjoyed the last 9 months or so. It became second nature to approach, to close. I tore through my social circle with abandon. Basically banged a good 70% of my Ex's friends. I have been at the absolute pinnacle of my development as a lothario. It became second nature and SMV wise I am probably at or near my peak (at least in the west).

It's strange though I am not really enjoying my accomplishments. If I was at this level of skill and sexual accomplishment in my early 20's I would be ecstatic. Somehow though it just doesn't feel right now. Maybe I just need a break. I have to be honest too, I miss the deep connection with someone. I am thinking some alone time in nature may be the cure. We will see.

Post: #9360

(01-31-2017 03:09 PM)Htownanddown Wrote:  I am not really sure if this is the correct place to post this. I think for the first time in my life I am experiencing player fatigue. I got out of an LTR and hit the ground running. I have never experienced the quantity and quality I've enjoyed the last 9 months or so. It became second nature to approach, to close. I tore through my social circle with abandon. Basically banged a good 70% of my Ex's friends. I have been at the absolute pinnacle of my development as a lothario. It became second nature and SMV wise I am probably at or near my peak (at least in the west).

It's strange though I am not really enjoying my accomplishments. If I was at this level of skill and sexual accomplishment in my early 20's I would be ecstatic. Somehow though it just doesn't feel right now. Maybe I just need a break. I have to be honest too, I miss the deep connection with someone. I am thinking some alone time in nature may be the cure. We will see.

I used to live in HTown. We started the H town lair .. Would love to pick your brains on "getting through a social circuit" without getting a "bad rep" here..

Regarding the emptiness of "reckless abandon" when it comes to sex.. I've got something to share if you'd like to hear

Post: #9361

SOOOOOO

Im sitting here going through my pokedex of bangs in response to another thread and I realize that my ex-main chick's roommate may have been looking for a boning this last weekend...

Im running through meeting her in my mind and I think she totally was. I would wake up my ex and fuck her in the middle of the night and after she went to bed so I know she heard us. One time when my Ex and I were fucking I was talking shit to her and I asked her if she told her friends about how well I fuck her to which she said yes. I've never crossed the rubicon on fucking one of my girl's friends (probably due to my obliviousness) but Im really thinking I missed this one... :/

I ran into her at Dogwood and we chopped it up a little and her bf from back then was no where to be found. Several times during the night I caught her eyeballin me.

Any advice on how to take advantage of this situation next time is appreciated! In the meantime of to the search engine I go

Post: #9362

(01-19-2017 03:08 AM)XXL Wrote:  I'm fully aware that I picked the wrong move there. What I did there was total hit or miss. Would never recommend it. Stalin's suggestions are way better.

I only posted it cause it's funny story how I made something out of nothing. That's a lesson to me it's worth it to try shit even if I messed up at first because
... WHY NOT?

XXL whatever happened with Facebook open girl? You end up getting out with her?

Post: #9363

I tend to use a daytime approach to night game but today an itch about my game was confirmed.
I dont hook hard enough and this causes me to miss a lot of girls that would probably fuck me that night.

Met this cute girl last weekend. Got in touch with her today just for her to tell me that she's moving to hong kong....

.....FACK

Post: #9364

Been an interesting week with women.

The main girl I've been seeing has flaked on me a few times, but her dad has cancer, and she's working her ass off on a project on a job she really is into.

It's a bit strange, I find myself wanting to hangout with her more, it's been basically two weeks since we hungout.

I'm not sure if there's anything really there or not, at this point I'm chilling, I'm not gonna push wanting to constantly trying to hangout with her.

The other girl I'm talking to with the whatever face, banging body, played dread game early last week, with the "what is this" question, I calmed her hamster, she came over the next day, blew my load in her mouth, and smashed her after.

She got all catty 2 nights ago when I mistakenly confused her trip dates, she thought I was texting another girl and said "bye" ran some dread game about her throwing this away for an assumption, she basically replied saying that it wasn't working because I wasn't giving her what I wanted.

I deleted her number after that response, not even worth it, she's obviously needy.


Ironic, the girl I want to hang with is busy, and I'm not willing to give enough attention to a girl who wants to hangout with me.


Anyways, the Chinese girl came over, she cut her hair even shorter, apparently she went to the womans march, I briefly teased her on it, changed subjects, tried banging her, she refused to fuck without a condom, I was too lazy to go buy some, so I just blew my load in her mouth.

I have plenty of numbers but struggling to find time to hangout with them, I ended up having this Bumble Mexican chick come over, cute face, terrible body, only got madeout with her, she was uptight, she wants to hangout again, I'm really not interested, not worth the time, and I'll know I'll be bummed post sex and want her immediately out asap.

I've been doing this new workout routine Steelex gave me which is pretty good and intense, also crush our partners EOQ numbers, so I should be getting a fat paycheck next month. Finances are looking pretty good also.


I'm honestly lacking on dates, maybe I'm burned out, maybe I'm weirdly wanting to hangout with the main girl more, I need to force myself to go to bed earlier also.

Post: #9365

I think my main plate (Teacher) is about to break. It's wobbling and I'm not sure if I want to catch it and spin it anymore.

After my crazy weekend, she started texting me late Sunday. I knew she was getting ready to start her period (she said she was going to start on Tuesday-she did) so she was very emotional. However she is usually pretty chill and not very emotional. I've dated girls like this in the past but at some point they let their true nature show.

She is technically still married, but she is separated as of early January. So I knew this was coming. I started getting the typical "What are we/where are we going" questions....ugh. She said she wanted to know if there was a future with us or if she was just a fling (we've been fucking/seeing each other since September 2016). I told her that I cannot predict the future but I do know that I don't want a relationship right now. I also told her I'm just taking it day-by-day and enjoying my time with her when I'm with her. Of course, in typical female fashion, she brings up a story where she had a similar thing going with another guy (while she was still married, mind you) but he blind sided her when he told her it was just sex and nothing more. She said that really hurt her and she has had her guard up since then.

At this point I'm starting to get a little agitated and told her she is just emotional because she is getting ready to start her period and that it is unfair of her to compare me to the other dude and what happened between them. It's really none of my business and I don't really give a fuck. And then of course I get the usual "I'm so sorry" and "Are we ok?" follow up texts.

She texted me a few times yesterday but I was short with her and otherwise I haven't reached out to her. Debating what to do. At this point I just don't know if it's worth the headache. She is developing feelings (or more likely has had these feelings and is just now starting to talk about it) and it's not like they are just going to go away. Not to mention she is just now getting out of a divorce and she needs to be single for awhile (I told her this but she didn't want to listen).

I had fun with her and enjoyed my time with her but I think it's about time to move on.

Post: #9366

Women swing from dick to dick - she was latched onto her husband and now wants to latch onto you. Sounds like she really isn't interested in having some time to recover.

It's clear she wants a relationship, you've even said she needs to be single, your gut is telling you to leave, I think you know what's best for yourself.

Post: #9367

(02-02-2017 02:33 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Women swing from dick to dick - she was latched onto her husband and now wants to latch onto you. Sounds like she really isn't interested in having some time to recover.

Yeah her (soon to be ex) husband was your standard beta. According to her (key word: According), he never initiated sex and never liked confrontation with her because he was afraid of pissing her off. Which makes sense given her total disgust of him when she talked about him.

I guess they did the whole counseling thing before, and then when she told him in early January she wanted a divorce he was blindsided and begged her not to do it (they have a 3-year old daughter). She even told him she cheated on him and he said they could work past that.

I understand her view of staying in a marriage for a child, but if you're going to cheat on your husband anyway why not just get a divorce? I'm the third guy (that I know of) that she fucked while she was married. Three! And it may be more than that. That tells me all I really need to know about her idea of 'commitment'.

Post: #9368

Going out with a fifty year tomorrow night. Never been with someone about twenty years older than me, but it should be fun. Or awkward.

Post: #9369

(02-01-2017 11:38 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(01-19-2017 03:08 AM)XXL Wrote:  I'm fully aware that I picked the wrong move there. What I did there was total hit or miss. Would never recommend it. Stalin's suggestions are way better.

I only posted it cause it's funny story how I made something out of nothing. That's a lesson to me it's worth it to try shit even if I messed up at first because
... WHY NOT?

XXL whatever happened with Facebook open girl? You end up getting out with her?

Post: #9370

Went out with a redhead I met off of OKC a few days ago. She didn't look fat from her pics, but she wasn't the prettiest girl in school either. I was just going to blow her off but I was bored last night and decided to get some dinner at Buffalo Wild Wings. I told her she could meet me up there if she wanted.

The only reason I had a hint of attraction is that she is a true redhead. I don't think I've every fucked a true redhead. I fucked an auburn dark redhead in my 20's and another very strawberry blonde/ginger-ish girl....but never a true, freckle laced redhead.

She was a solid 5. Nice tits, and she was wearing a low cut shirt showing them off. Another weakness of mine. So after dinner (around 7:30) I was like "well, ready to go?" and I meant just go our separate ways but she was like "Let's hang out more. Want to go back to my place?" I diverted the question for a minute and talked about some other random shit while I was chewing on it in my head. I ultimately decided just to go back home mainly because I did not have a condom on me.

I walk her out to her car and hug her. I go for the kiss as is my tradition, and we start kissing and she kisses like a....lizard. It's the best way I can describe it. Her tongue is darting in and out of my mouth touching my tongue. The only thing that made it not so fucking bad was she was biting my lower lip too. Strange. I have had a few snake/lizard kissers before but this one takes the cake.

I get home and she starts blowing up my phone. I don't think I'll see her again. I should have just stayed home and beat my meat.

Post: #9371

(02-01-2017 11:38 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(01-19-2017 03:08 AM)XXL Wrote:  I'm fully aware that I picked the wrong move there. What I did there was total hit or miss. Would never recommend it. Stalin's suggestions are way better.

I only posted it cause it's funny story how I made something out of nothing. That's a lesson to me it's worth it to try shit even if I messed up at first because
... WHY NOT?

XXL whatever happened with Facebook open girl? You end up getting out with her?

I met up with her once to see what's up. Our logistics are very inconvenient. On top of that she's lame white thrash/hood rat type of a chick. Not worth it. I moved on.

Normally I'd try to figure it out. Not anymore.

Post: #9372

Be interesting. Be cool. Be social. Make good money. Have a sweet pad. Be good looking. Be able to talk.

All attractive traits, right?

I have a friend. He has a good job in finance, manages a couple people. He lives right downtown in a sweet condo. He has lotsa friends and isn't always a follower (will take initiative to go do things). He's social and easy to talk to. He's pretty good looking. He's not one of my friends I would say is a loser in any way...he's a cool guy.

He's always using his vacation to travel places...Ireland, Iceland, all around the U.S. Oh, and while he will travel totally solo, he's oftentimes visiting college friends, which is cool (I wish I had that...my guys all live in the same area as me).

He has all the pictures of him and his buddies in different places.

And...the dude doesn't get laid (at least not much since college I think). I think the last girlfriend he had was a few years ago.

Why? Well I'm not going to pretend to be a woman and tell you why they find him unattractive, but I'd start with the one thing you *need* for game, something this guy doesn't have or doesn't show.

You need to want her. You need to be interested in having sex with her.

Sure, she might turn you down. That usually happens. You need to be hungry. You need to be famished and parched for a woman's sweet sweet nectar.

Sometimes I think that's really the only thing that matters. Do you want pussy. Do you want to get laid. Then be honest with yourself and let a girl know that. And when she isn't interested, let another girl know that. And so forth.

You'll get laid.

Don't walk in thinking you're so cool and you've been working out and you look great and chicks are checking you out and they probably want to have sex with you. Even if they are checking you out and want you, even if the 5 hottest babes in the bar are checking you out, who gives a fuck if you don't want them back. They aren't going to approach you.

Post: #9373

(02-03-2017 03:00 PM)heavy Wrote:  I have a friend.

Quote:You need to want her. You need to be interested in having sex with her.

All jokes aside tho the fact some men allow girls to shame them for being "thirsty" trips me out. OF COURSE I'm thirsty woman! I own that shit to the moon and back

Post: #9374

^^--- Funny...I mean, I lobbed that one down the middle for ya...glad somebody hit it outta the park

Post: #9375

(02-03-2017 03:00 PM)heavy Wrote:  Be interesting. Be cool. Be social. Make good money. Have a sweet pad. Be good looking. Be able to talk.

All attractive traits, right?

I have a friend. He has a good job in finance, manages a couple people. He lives right downtown in a sweet condo. He has lotsa friends and isn't always a follower (will take initiative to go do things). He's social and easy to talk to. He's pretty good looking. He's not one of my friends I would say is a loser in any way...he's a cool guy.

He's always using his vacation to travel places...Ireland, Iceland, all around the U.S. Oh, and while he will travel totally solo, he's oftentimes visiting college friends, which is cool (I wish I had that...my guys all live in the same area as me).

He has all the pictures of him and his buddies in different places.

And...the dude doesn't get laid (at least not much since college I think). I think the last girlfriend he had was a few years ago.

Why? Well I'm not going to pretend to be a woman and tell you why they find him unattractive, but I'd start with the one thing you *need* for game, something this guy doesn't have or doesn't show.

You need to want her. You need to be interested in having sex with her.

Sure, she might turn you down. That usually happens. You need to be hungry. You need to be famished and parched for a woman's sweet sweet nectar.

Sometimes I think that's really the only thing that matters. Do you want pussy. Do you want to get laid. Then be honest with yourself and let a girl know that. And when she isn't interested, let another girl know that. And so forth.

You'll get laid.

Don't walk in thinking you're so cool and you've been working out and you look great and chicks are checking you out and they probably want to have sex with you. Even if they are checking you out and want you, even if the 5 hottest babes in the bar are checking you out, who gives a fuck if you don't want them back. They aren't going to approach you.

I guarantee this guy jerks off to porn 5 times a week.