(07-10-2014 08:18 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  That just happened today man, my tooth still hurts. I'm not too sure that I'll get the bang cos I'll be out of the country for a month and a half...girls tend to cool off when I'm away that long.

But game made my day.

Get a twitter account.

Ok so maybe Sinatra wasn't the best example... how about Leo? My point wasn't to talk about celebrities that have pussy put on a platter for them, it was to tail Soup and agree that it's normal for any guy (no matter how good) to have down swings.

Soup is by far one of my favorite posters on the board, because he's brutally honest, and correct me if I'm wrong, didn't come onto the board with awesome game already intact. His growth into one of the top players on the forum, should be inspirational to everyone.

(07-09-2014 03:41 PM)soup Wrote:  

(07-09-2014 03:06 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Then, I started presenting myself better, dressing better, grooming better, working out. I became a 7, getting 7s got much easier because of the mutual attraction.

Then, I took things a step further. I learned how to add some muscle to my frame. My fashion sense got even better, my haircut evolved, my shoes, my teeth, cologne, body language, etc.

I became a 7.5, getting 7s and 7.5s got much easier.

I even get the occasional 8 now.

Gaming 8s is no harder than gaming 7s. The hardest part was getting myself from a 6 to a 7. Making myself more attractive!

Same to you man!

In the "hip" parts of NYC where all the white non-native type girls hang, fashion is probably the most important thing. Body language is also crucial. Muscles don't seem to matter as much as they probably would in a beach area like LA or Florida. Also, height and face seem to be more important than muscles around where I hang.

This is because being cool is the hottest commodity in North Brooklyn. Being famous, hip.. you look like a somebody that is either coming from a lot of money or has a lot money in their future.

Examples:
For white guys- you look like you come from old money, but are hanging out not caring about much.
Black guys- you look like a "blipster" (black hipster... stupid term, but that's what it gets described as) who is in touch with ghetto primalness but also has connection with VICE or is some hot shot DJ or up and coming underground MC.

It's all about living in that greenzone.

You have to dress the part. What's your in, you are in.

This got me thinking. There are certain high status archetypes, some are place specific such as the examples you gave, some are universal such as entertainers and athletes. By tapping into those archetypes you are leveraging some existing beliefs for your benefit.

Some places it's less obvious though what those are. It's more of a level playing field but also harder to establish a niche. The qualities that contribute most to attractiveness are the general qualities.

Cj thanks man!

I definitely went through a change in my time here so far.

That said, I still feel like there is a lot more to accomplish.. Maybe more isn't the right word, but I don't feel like I've reached my full potential yet.

There's seems to be more and more things to learn or internalize.

Ha watch out for goldmund too.. He's been on here for a while but didn't start posting much until recently. He's got mad game and determination..And we've chilled a couple times so I've seen it in person but it definitely translates in his writing.

Props to Drauger player from New Zealand. Good times last night doods.

Started out the day completely in my head. Mildly hungover, little sleep. As I was in my dazed and introverted state, I couldn't help but see girls steal glances my way.

"She's nice, lemme run up to her. Ah I'm already late as is. Ooh she's even better... hmm big diamond ring, I don't care, could be Cracker Jacks."

Lunch hour I walked around slowly, just soaking in the sun. Opportunities bouncing left and right. Was it me? Was it Thursday? Why does everything feel more open when I feel so shut out?

Take the train back, scout the train cars... fatties, dudes, families... tall, long legged girl... Ok.

Get on, pace myself a few steps. Two girls sitting down notice me; one older, one with a wedding ring. Whatever, take out my book and start zoning out. Notice long legs tilting her legs in my direction.

Next stop, bunch of thirsty mah's get on. Old Chinese lady gets inbetween me and legs. "3 second rule" fuck you, I have my book and I'm out of it, leave me alone. 2 Guys on either side of long legs, huffing and puffing. I pull back more as another thirsty behind me tries boxing me out. I stand my ground, legs spread, music blaring.

Her stop, I'm still going. No I'm not. I need a walk by the river. She's high tailing it up the escalator, I take double steps and catch up, stalking my prey.

She whips out her iphone but isn't as enamored by it as the typical girl. She's crowded on either side, no go.

I stop and fiddle with my phone, all dumb-like. An opportunity opens, I rush up, Yad-be-damned. She lights up a cigarette, we're chatting, teasing, talking travel. I cold read her without even trying.

Interloper comes and wants to bum smokes, trying to get in being all high energy; keep eye contact with her and smirk, she looks my way and he fucks off on his skateboard.

5 minutes later, number's in the bag, meet-up's scheduled for next week (we'll see). Another #, another day, who cares? Ah, but she's Slovakian, my ego feels good.

Head home, grab my bike and head out. I want to prowl.

Some crazy woman is sitting half naked on the street as a SWAT team encircles her. I see a cute blonde in short shorts not far from the scene, she kinda looks like a journalist. "Hey there, you look like you're writing a killer story." Banter, banter, give her a snapchat idea. We bounce to the bar 2 doors down. She's down but she's not.

Completley schizophrenic. I'm trying to make moves as her orbiters are texting her left and right. Bartender's a tortoise, he's not greasing her up. She bails before the second drink, not before demanding I take her #. She seems nice enough, but scatterbrained so I have to close within a few days or kiss it goodbye.

Walk by the next bar, girl asks for a light; entertain them as I notice 2 girls behind the window drinking alone. We're chatting, and 10min later the 2 girls come out, forced into our smoking section. We banter, but it's hard to lock down 4 girls in 2 groups who don't know each other as the only guy.

I cool things down with the first group, head in for a refill. Bump into a cute little thing I saw at the club last week but was too blacked out to make headway with. Luckily she remembered me and was not disgused by my behavior as she begs me to take her # so we can revisit the scene.

See a reserved Korean girl and spit some intellectual game. Pushing all the right buttons as I see window drinkers going out for a cig. The one has the bubble butt I've been craving. Ask Korean to watch my drink.

Finally I'm in with bubble butt and we're vibing well as the thirsty orbiters try taking their spots. Korean girl's sacrificed to some guido. Oh well.

Bounce with bubble butt and friend; friend gets food as bubble butt and I rapport.

Bubble butt and friend are parting in different cars. Ask bubble butt to give me a lift to my lift. She's mildly inebriated so I'm glad we're not going too far. Make my move as she drops the IHAB line. I smirk and think "WWRVFD" - "Well I have a goldfish " She giggles and says I'm funny. We exchange #s and seed a proper meetup.

Just another day of building up prospects.

It's Friday and I go for broke tonight. No #s, no cool, chill guy. The Supermoon is coming this weekend, time to break out the werewolf game.

/over

^^^ Dude I need to hang with you more often.

(07-11-2014 12:14 AM)unbowed Wrote:  Next stop, bunch of thirsty mah's get on. Old Chinese lady gets inbetween me and legs. "3 second rule" fuck you, I have my book and I'm out of it, leave me alone. 2 Guys on either side of long legs, huffing and puffing. I pull back more as another thirsty behind me tries boxing me out. I stand my ground, legs spread, music blaring.

I love it when an observant player goes out into the world. It's like a secret society that can notice details that the average joe would never pick up on. We document things in a very unique way.

(07-11-2014 12:19 AM)Cobra Wrote:  ^^^ Dude I need to hang with you more often.

Read your cpa sheet earlier and approached a girl directly on the train platform. Lo and behold she's a cpa. I was mixing travel talk and cobra knowledge. Lemme know when you're back east!

(07-11-2014 09:56 AM)Goldmund Wrote:  I love it when an observant player goes out into the world. It's like a secret society that can notice details that the average joe would never pick up on. We document things in a very unique way.

I'm pretty sure red pill ingestion rewires a man into a T-1000 terminator. After a guy's rebuilt, they'll never know what hit 'em.

This thread has been gold lately, especially since I've met many of you in person. It's like watching this shit go down in real time.

I'm wrapping up here, so while I'd love to grab a drink and a chick with you guys, sadly I won't have the time.

^^ where you headed? Teaching abroad right?

^Ah, I'm sure you will be collecting adventures, notches, and experience over there man. Can't wait to reconnect and share some stories in the future.

Best of luck pal.

My game today..

Woke up with this Spanish girl who I've been banging on and off for a while.

She left.. sent out a text blast. Got some replies but no solid dates set up for tonight. Had to erase some numbers from my phone because they were either not putting out or were too low quality or were telling me not to contact them.

Spanish girl is texting me again late afternoon.. guess this is what happens when you raw dog a girl and she's into you or whatever.

There's one chick from Boston who might come down to hang with me tomorrow. I'd say her face isn't all that but she's got a nice looking body in her "modeling" photos (it's always funny to me when 6-7s do photoshoots and call themselves models.. I guess they are, but it's not real high level model). We talked on the phone today about sex stuff.

A player friend of mine is telling me he's got a full plate and might need me to take some off.. not in an eskimo way though.

Might go see a movie.

(07-11-2014 07:33 PM)soup Wrote:  There's one chick from Boston who might come down to hang with me tomorrow. I'd say her face isn't all that but she's got a nice looking body in her "modeling" photos (it's always funny to me when 6-7s do photoshoots and call themselves models.. I guess they are, but it's not real high level model). We talked on the phone today about sex stuff.

Interestingly, I've noticed this a lot more with Boston girls/girls who go to school in Boston. Very "progressive" town; everyone's beautiful.

Any of you guys ever deliberately repeated the wrong digits to a girl after she gives you her number just to see whether it was a fake number or not? I inadvertently stumbled upon this today after some girl tried to give me a fake number.

Me: so, I'll hit you up later and we'll try to set something up
Her: sure
Me: cool, what's your #?
Her: 347....
Me: so (repeating) it's 347...

The last four digits were 5629 and I said 5628 even though I didn't mean to.. but she went along with it anyway.

Me: you sure? could've sworn you said 9
Her: omg! yeah, that's what I meant. I'm so sorry.

I was thinking about calling her out on it("oh so you were trying to give me a fake #") but I said fuck it and decided not to hit her up anyway.

(07-11-2014 10:52 AM)unbowed Wrote:  Read your cpa sheet earlier and approached a girl directly on the train platform. Lo and behold she's a cpa. I was mixing travel talk and cobra knowledge. Lemme know when you're back east!

Shit, that data sheet was for careers but you ended up using it to game a chick. Lifestyle meets Game through RVF.

I'm feeling like I gamed her myself

Out-fricking standing!!!

I thought that 'players' were mindless fools. Though secretly I wanted to smash pussy and be a fucking warrior. There are some smart and articulate mother fuckers on this forum. I'm obviously new to the game, I was married for seven years and was the epitome of beta. Now I'm sitting in a bar surrounded by women who want to fuck me and who I want to fuck. Life is good and not for the faint of heart. Rage against you poet/prophet beautiful players.

Coincidental to what I wrote in here about higher quality girls being easier going than 5-7s, Heartiste just blogged about the same thing with a good theory as to why it's the case: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/07/1...ur-league/

I'm really starting to think that it's just not worth it to bother with mediocre girls.

(07-12-2014 12:59 AM)soup Wrote:  Coincidental to what I wrote in here about higher quality girls being easier going than 5-7s, Heartiste just blogged about the same thing with a good theory as to why it's the case: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/07/1...ur-league/

I'm really starting to think that it's just not worth it to bother with mediocre girls.

VP once said something similar in the world of sales,

If you have 4 minutes to make a sale, would you rather sell a low priced item with a low commission or a high priced item with a higher commission?

The uglier the chick, the more delusional she is.

Don't you just love it when you go to an event in your social circle, and you've slept with a few girls there and it's a little awkward for them, but you're proud of yourself, and then new girls to the group can kind of read the atmosphere and get interested in you too, and they get all disappointed when you leave to do something cooler, but you just know you'll bang them later? Me too, man. Me too.

Preselection is the shit. Social circle is the shit.

What is a good line to bounce a girl to her house from a bar you guys use?

Yesterday a memorable moment. A girl I have been seeing took a job in a different city, so she came over for the last time.

I had a book lying on my counter called The Book of Questions. It’s a bank of a few hundred personal and probing questions. She noticed it and suggested we play the game.

At some point I asked her a question along the lines of, "would you rather have a disabled child or an abortion?" She started to say, "well actually it's funny you say that..." and then just started crying. She told me about a sibling who died shortly after being born from a neurological disorder, and she was a carrier of the gene.

The whole time this was happening, I just sort of had this grin on my face. I was genuinely surprised and didn't know how to react because this she was always pretty reserved. She kept apologizing and was embarrassed even though I was trying not to appear judgmental in any way. I must confess the display of vulnerability moved me a bit. I think the only reason she opened up like that was because we both knew it was probably the last time we would see each other.

In my experience those types of emotional connections are rare but it was very rewarding in a way.

But if there's a lesson in there, it's buy The Book of Questions.

Yeesh, man, if I were trying to bang a chick for the first time I'd probably avoid anything talking about her evil genetics and dead siblings.

It's true that an emotional connection is important, and I can see a bang coming from something like that- I've dealt with first date bang recipe situations where girls have mental breakdowns, it's harrowing. Worth the effort for the bang? I guess. One girl went into a diabetic coma at my place.

I'm trying to veer away from drama in general these days because life is already crazy enough as it is. Also, crazy girls can be more of a liability.

So what happened, did you bang her?

Haha, yes I had been seeing her for a few months but were weren't that close since we only hung out 2-3 times per month. So some may not view that as game, but my opinion is the seduction doesn't end with the bang.

I have used the books on first dates though never elicited that powerful of a response. But this girl isn't a crazy girl, in fact probably fits the opposite stereotype. It wasn't a mental breakdown, just an authentic display of emotion because it was an issue that clearly weighed heavily on her.

(07-12-2014 08:32 AM)simondice Wrote:  What is a good line to bounce a girl to her house from a bar you guys use?

When I'm pulling to mine, especially from a bar on dates, I just tell her let's get out of here or let's find somewhere else, and then tell her we're going to mine once we're already outside the venue. I usually say "I have alcohol at mine, let's grab a drink and chill there instead of wasting more money at a bar." I do my dates on weeknights as well so I'll preface that by pretending I don't know any other good places open this time on a Wednesday etc. Waiting till we've left the bar to suggest coming to mine significantly increases the odds of her agreeing to it. So do the same but once you've left the bar just suggest her place instead. I did this once with a girl who lived 15 min away from the bar by saying we should buy some cheap wine and head to hers. If she's not close and you drove, have alcohol in your car for you to drink at hers.

Texting a new OKC girl about a same night bang:

Her: How big are you text me xxx
Me: Big
Her: How big
Me: <tells her size>
Her: That's a little too big for me
Me: It's all about the angle

Better response players?