Post: #201

Do you own a gun? Hell, no. Who do you think you are?

Clever folks never admit to anything that could come back to haunt them.

Post: #202

Interesting story out of ATL. It looks like 3 males who were just family men turning their lives around broke in to a woman's house with intent to do bad things. The best defense is a good offense, and this woman comes out shooting. Notice slide locked back, she emptied the gun.

Post: #203

Given how many Americans are armed, I don't understand how home invasions are still a thing. Most people I know are packing some major heat.

Post: #204

(09-19-2016 10:47 PM)ms224 Wrote:  People have mentioned this before but.
Foreign chics in the USA, first date.
Gun range with a handgun.
For most it will be a very new and novel experience.
Even if they don't like you , they will all remember going to the gun range.

Definitely a fun experience. Works also with many American girls that are not country girls. Most have never fired a gun before.

(09-19-2016 10:42 PM)Adonis Wrote:  Alright guys, fess up. Who here is a "super-owner"

I wouldn't fall in the "super owner" but do have a few. I know two "super owners" and they love their guns. I love it too because I get to try out guns without dropping any cash buying or renting them.

Post: #205

I used to be a super owner. Well, I had dozens of guns. I think I had about 50 at one point, I was constantly buying and selling, so I've owned more like 150-200 individual guns.

Hard times, though. I sold almost all of them. I don't have many now, and about half are guns I inherited.

I have some cool heirloom guns though that I'll never sell. First production year Remington Model 31 12 gauge, a Winchester Model 12 from the 40s, first production year Marlin 336, etc. High quality, but not fancy stuff. My family was poor, they bought base level guns for hunting. But still neat if you're a gun nerd. I inherited them all because out of all the people in this generation on both sides of my very large family, I'm the only hunter.

I had half a dozen long guns before I was in high school.

Post: #206

(09-23-2016 01:26 PM)Adonis Wrote:  Interesting story out of ATL. It looks like 3 males who were just family men turning their lives around broke in to a woman's house with intent to do bad things. The best defense is a good offense, and this woman comes out shooting. Notice slide locked back, she emptied the gun.

I hear all the time how submissive and frail Asian women are.

I always laugh.

The Asian business/family women I know are exactly like this.

Post: #207

^Yeeeeeehaw!

From the hip, one handed!

Post: #208

Every house should have at least one long gun if not hand gun.

Post: #209

Really want to shoot a gun. Never have. I had two opportunities to go to a shooting range but both fell through. When I finally do, I'll head straight for the Post a manly thing you did today thread.

Post: #210

ElFlaco, are you in the US? I'm sure someone near you can set something up.

Post: #211

(09-24-2016 09:04 PM)ms224 Wrote:  ElFlaco, are you in the US? I'm sure someone near you can set something up.

No, but it looks like there may actually be a public one where I live after all, despite gun control. Am investigating ...

Post: #212

If you're in the USA, lots of gun owners will gladly take you shooting if you tell them its your first time.
Hardly anyone is anti-gun after that.

Alternatively, you can take an NRA intro class. Maybe a little academic but it will get you going.

Post: #213

(09-24-2016 01:03 AM)weambulance Wrote:  I have some cool heirloom guns though that I'll never sell. First production year Remington Model 31 12 gauge, a Winchester Model 12 from the 40s, first production year Marlin 336, etc.

Is that Model 12 a trench gun or the civilian variant? Got to shoot a trench gun and some other really cool guns (and a flamethrower) at a place in Texas once.

Post: #214

It's a 28" barrel full choke hunting shotgun. Until the last ten years or so rifles were illegal for deer hunting in most of my home state, so everyone used slugs for deer and the same shotgun for turkey and squirrel. My great-uncle filed the bead almost flat to get it sighted in for slugs.

I'd probably go with the Ithaca Model 37 for my trench gun needs if I had to choose, but both are excellent designs. I have several Model 37s too. Model 12 has a loading gate that eats thumbnails, but the side ejection port is good for dropping a slug in the chamber. The Ithaca is way nicer to load, and is a bit smoother to run.

Post: #215

Quote:How come there's no Brits on this thread?

They are busy worshipping their beloved slavemaster the majesterial lizard queen lizardbeth. Good point though their uniform slave-speak and brainwashing on this point is sickening, simultaneously worshipping their quasi-alien slave-master.

7.62 mm Sniper rifle, 12 guage single shot, .22 iron sight rifle, and a pellet gun, AND Im in Australia so no excuses. All I can say is if you have the will there is a way, and I had no idea how to get them until I decided I WILL GET ARMED

Get one immediately, you will go from slave status to armed free man, and its weird police treat you differently from then on, at least in Australia. It could just be your thinking changes because you aren't one of the defenseless brain-dead lamb chops anymore

Post: #216

You're still more or less defenceless when not at home, and yes the police treat you differently. You get your name, address and firearms status chucked on the crim-track database like a scumbag felon, regardless of having a clean rap sheet.

Post: #217

(09-24-2016 09:51 PM)ElFlaco Wrote:  [quote='ms224' pid='1401650' dateline='1474769081']
ElFlaco, are you in the US? I'm sure someone near you can set something up.

No, but it looks like there may actually be a public one where I live after all, despite gun control. Am investigating ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_i...egislation

Quote:The right to keep arms

In regard to the right to keep arms, Title II, Chapter II, Article 15 of the Federal Law of Firearms and Explosives states:

(translated) Weapons may be kept in the home for security and legitimate defense of its dwellers. Their possession imposes the duty to manifest them to the Secretariat of National Defense for their registration. For every weapon, record of its registration will be issued.[22]

Under this clause, citizens are entitled to keep firearms of the type and calibers permitted by law for their security and defense within their home only. Every weapon must be registered with the federal government. While federal law does not set a limit, in legal practice, citizens are only allowed to keep a total of 10 registered firearms (nine long guns, one handgun) per household.

In a sense Mexican gun laws are more liberal than Australian ones because at least you get to own and use a gun specifically for home defence, and you don't have to keep it locked in a fucking safe 24 hours a day.

Post: #218

(09-28-2016 05:03 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  In a sense Mexican gun laws are more liberal than Australian ones because at least you get to own and use a gun specifically for home defence, and you don't have to keep it locked in a fucking safe 24 hours a day.

The only problem with gun laws in Mexico (this info is three years old) is that you may only buy a gun from like one store in the whole country if you want to own one legally.

To say nothing of the black market, of course.

Quote:I'd probably go with the Ithaca Model 37 for my trench gun needs if I had to choose, but both are excellent designs. I have several Model 37s too. Model 12 has a loading gate that eats thumbnails, but the side ejection port is good for dropping a slug in the chamber. The Ithaca is way nicer to load, and is a bit smoother to run.

I've got a Benelli M2 that I love. It's silky smooth, and you can tell the machining behind it is top-notch. That said, the loading gate is a thumb-eater and if you want to replace it with something else it's beaucoup buxxx.

Post: #219

If I had to travel to the other side of Australia to buy a gun then I would do it.

In this current day and age there should few higher priorities in a man's life than to own at least one serviceable hangun and be basically proficient in its use.

Process for getting a handgun in Australia from go to whoa.

Apply for membership of a pistol club. Attend. Pay dues. (3 months and $50 to $100 depending...)
Apply for permission to do a firearm training course.
Provide criminal history check and in some states have your fingerprints taken.
Enrol for the training course at roughly ($350) and wait several months for an opening (they limit the availability to bottleneck new applicants).
Do the course and get accredited.
Pay fee for license and wait ($100 and a month, or two, or three depending on the jackasses in the bureaucracy).
Get license and wait an additional 6 months before being allowed to apply for permission to acquire a handgun.
Apply for permission and wait for an additional month before you can pick up the gun.
Thereafter attend 6 club shoots a year at a minimum or have your license and your guns yanked, no recompense.

I live in one of the safest places in the world.
Questions in my mind of whether it was all worth it?

Not a one.

Post: #220

So I'm trying to decide on a CCW pocket pistol in California. My main use would be to put in my pocket in my shorts or jeans since i usually wear pretty little clothes due to being in socal.

However, being in cali significantly reduces the amount of guns to choose from ( http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/ ). I would probably choose a glock 43 or a sig p938 if I could get a hold of them at a reasonable price (off roster guns get marked up like twice the price here). Given this constraint, I'm trying to decide between the sig p238 (380 ACP) or the S&W shield (9mm), but if someone has a better recommendation im all ears.

I would like to stick with a 9mm due to I already have a g17 9mm but the shield's a bit too big to pocket carry. Because of this ive been leaning towards the sig p238 since its a pretty small gun and the reviews of it are all good. Im wondering what are your guys take on using a small 380 1911 coming from a striker fire or if there is a better option?

Post: #221

I own a Ruger 9mm compact. Absolutely love this gun. Fits my hand perfectly and haven't hade any reliability issues. Buy all my ammo online in bulk form. 1000 rounds, 124 grain for about 200$. I mostly use a leather shoulder holster for the colder months. Then a smaller belt holster for harmer months.

Post: #222

(10-02-2016 06:42 AM)cibo Wrote:  So I'm trying to decide on a CCW pocket pistol in California. My main use would be to put in my pocket in my shorts or jeans since i usually wear pretty little clothes due to being in socal.

However, being in cali significantly reduces the amount of guns to choose from ( http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/ ). I would probably choose a glock 43 or a sig p938 if I could get a hold of them at a reasonable price (off roster guns get marked up like twice the price here). Given this constraint, I'm trying to decide between the sig p238 (380 ACP) or the S&W shield (9mm), but if someone has a better recommendation im all ears.

I would like to stick with a 9mm due to I already have a g17 9mm but the shield's a bit too big to pocket carry. Because of this ive been leaning towards the sig p238 since its a pretty small gun and the reviews of it are all good. Im wondering what are your guys take on using a small 380 1911 coming from a striker fire or if there is a better option?

I would look at Kahr guns. I see that list precludes the "budget" C-series (CM9, CW9, CM40, etc), which is too bad. I've had a CM9 for about 4 years now as a daily carry and I'm perfectly happy with it--a lot of people sell theirs on Armslist for as low as $250-300 because they want a Glock (pretty good) or Beretta Pico (shit). When I had less style I pocket-carried it pretty often until I became more comfortable and now appendix carry most of the time (not recommended if you have any sort of gut). It looks ugly and no frills, but actually has the best double-action trigger I've shot in its class. I notice that the P-series (PM9, etc) is allowed. Those are more expensive because they get polygonal barrels, aluminum guide-rod, and extra machining done, but otherwise are the same thing as the C-series.

Note that pretty much any pocket pistol like the Glock 42/43, S&W Shield, Ruger LC9, etc will never be comfortable or fun to shoot--they're there to get you out of a bad situation as fast as possible in the smallest package.

I've never shot the p238 but I see a lot of people trying to sell them due to dissatisfaction and I don't like the idea of 1911s being shrunk down to size (ever had to take apart the frame of a 1911? Welcome to Hell). I'm also wary of US-made Sigs in general, but that's just my elitism. The Shield is cheap, but I personally never liked the ergos and external safety. Another thing new people to CCW pistols do is try to have a lot of safety features on the gun itself. That's not necessary--get a good (read: usually expensive) holster that will be safe but also allow you to draw a handgun with a round already chambered and ready to fire. External safeties seem like a good idea, but on a small handgun they are often small surfaces that require multiple tries to actuate even with training. I shot the Ruger LC series (9mm and .380) and while it was pretty decent, my sticking point was the external safeties on them.

So after all that negativity (sorry), and you just can't like a Ruger or Kahr, I'd recommend you take a look at the Glock single stacks. Why? You've got a 17 already and Glock triggers tend to be very uniform across all models.

As for .380 v 9mm, realistically it's going to come down to your preference. .380 is actually more expensive to buy in bulk, but .380s are typically just ever so smaller than 9mm's. As an example, compare the Glock 42 and 43.

At the end of the day, I know you're going through that "I want it NOW!" phase where you may want to go cheaper. I challenge you to push past that impulse because for me it's lead to many regret purchases when I should've saved/waited to get the gun that I really was comfortable with and bought. I'm not QUITE certain how CA sales and private transfers work, but get familiar with calguns.net or other forums Marketplace or sale sections. Armslist and gunbroker work too if you're trying to save money. I suspect a lot of people will be trying to sell handguns in order to fund AR-15 purchases for the upcoming election bonanza.

Hope that helped.

Post: #223

I like this Taurus 9mm for CCW
http://www.taurususa.com/product-details...ory=Pistol

it's slim, light, easy to carry, has a nice grip and well priced under $300.

Post: #224

Good luck applying for a CCW right now here in CA, applications are at an all time high out until late 2017.

You're going to need some nice letters of recommendation from LEO's and military.

Also a really good reason to carry to begin with.

Post: #225

I just recieved my PAL licence in Canada which allows me to own a "non-restricted" gun aka long rifles. Can't wait to go buy a tactical semi automatic, but I dont know how my parents will feel with a gun in the house lol.

My mom opened my mail before I could get it, and saw the licence but is a little confused as to what it allows haha, so hopefully I can sneak it past them.