(04-27-2017 05:18 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 05:03 PM)realologist Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 02:32 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Did these anti-white strategies hinder Germany from winning the World Cup?

Did these same strategies hinder Real Madrid from winning the Champions League?

Does everything have to be blamed on racism or anti (insert group) behaviour, you sound like the same feminists you loathe.

Malouda was never a great player for Chelsea or France, Gourcuff didn't impress me the few times I saw him.

Agreed. Now let's quit making the soccer thread a race thread.

"let's quit making the soccer thread a race thread": easy for you to say, "let's not talk about races"... In France, we now have around 80% of professional players who happen to be African dudes (look at Toulouse, Guingamp, even Rennes, Nancy...), most of them using false ID papers bearing false age (to pretend to be younger). It is a problem, and an unfair situation, for native French trying to become professional.

PSG African goalkeeper using a false Armenian passport with a doctored age:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apoula_Edel#Affaire

La FIFA étudie le cas d'Édel car après 4 semaines en Arménie, les autorités arméniennes lui ont donné un passeport arménien

Le 15 décembre 2009, la presse apprend que Nicolas Philibert (l'entraîneur ayant permis le transfert du joueur en Arménie) accuse Edel non seulement d'avoir menti sur son âge (il aurait en réalité 29 ans), mais également de ne pas avoir déclaré son identité réelle (il se nommerait en fait Ambroise Beyaména). D'après Philibert, Edel aurait refusé d'honorer les dettes qui le liaient au technicien français ; ce dernier aurait alors révélé ces informations.

I don't care. Call me old school but I prefer my sports and politics separate. This is the same reason why ESPN fired 100 employees

(04-27-2017 05:33 PM)realologist Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 05:18 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 05:03 PM)realologist Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 02:32 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Did these anti-white strategies hinder Germany from winning the World Cup?

Did these same strategies hinder Real Madrid from winning the Champions League?

Does everything have to be blamed on racism or anti (insert group) behaviour, you sound like the same feminists you loathe.

Malouda was never a great player for Chelsea or France, Gourcuff didn't impress me the few times I saw him.

Agreed. Now let's quit making the soccer thread a race thread.

"let's quit making the soccer thread a race thread": easy for you to say, "let's not talk about races"... In France, we now have around 80% of professional players who happen to be African dudes (look at Toulouse, Guingamp, even Rennes, Nancy...), most of them using false ID papers bearing false age (to pretend to be younger). It is a problem, and an unfair situation, for native French trying to become professional.

PSG African goalkeeper using a false Armenian passport with a doctored age:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apoula_Edel#Affaire

La FIFA étudie le cas d'Édel car après 4 semaines en Arménie, les autorités arméniennes lui ont donné un passeport arménien

Le 15 décembre 2009, la presse apprend que Nicolas Philibert (l'entraîneur ayant permis le transfert du joueur en Arménie) accuse Edel non seulement d'avoir menti sur son âge (il aurait en réalité 29 ans), mais également de ne pas avoir déclaré son identité réelle (il se nommerait en fait Ambroise Beyaména). D'après Philibert, Edel aurait refusé d'honorer les dettes qui le liaient au technicien français ; ce dernier aurait alors révélé ces informations.

I don't care. Call me old school but I prefer my sports and politics separate. This is the same reason why ESPN fired 100 employees

There is no sport worldwide that mixes the two more than football.

Juventus & Real Madrid look like they each have one foot in the Final. Like i've been saying, this is Juve's year to win it all.

Much respect for the Juve: for its great leader and warrior Buffon, also for Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, Marchisio... 5 tough, battle-hardened Italians on the pitch, plus 2 gifted Argentinians (almost in a way Italians, therefore, culturally)... they've humiliated the ASM, a club without real country or fan base, a club of over-paid mercenaries (club playing in the French league even though they had no native French on their starting team). Forza Juve!

Juventus played a very mature match but Monaco has only themselves to blame as they had clear cut chances - falcao and mbappe between them atleast had 3 gilt edged chances between them as did germain at the end. Even when there were times that juve was playing with virtually 6 at the back, monaco had a top attack.

Monaco missed Mendy big time - both goals came through the juve right where mendy would've patrolled.

RM will beat juve in the final IMO (i would like juve to win but they will be punished by RM if they give the chances they gave Monaco).

(05-03-2017 04:30 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Much respect for the Juve: for its great leader and warrior Buffon, also for Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, Marchisio... 5 tough, battle-hardened Italians on the pitch, plus 2 gifted Argentinians (almost in a way Italians, therefore, culturally)... they've humiliated the ASM, a club without real country or fan base, a club of over-paid mercenaries (club playing in the French league even though they had no native French on their starting team). Forza Juve!

Juventus wage bill is a lot higher than ASM. most of those players outside of moutinho and falcao won't be on much in terms of wages for ASM.

(05-03-2017 04:38 PM)floor7 Wrote:  

(05-03-2017 04:30 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Much respect for the Juve: for its great leader and warrior Buffon, also for Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, Marchisio... 5 tough, battle-hardened Italians on the pitch, plus 2 gifted Argentinians (almost in a way Italians, therefore, culturally)... they've humiliated the ASM, a club without real country or fan base, a club of over-paid mercenaries (club playing in the French league even though they had no native French on their starting team). Forza Juve!

Juventus wage bill is a lot higher than ASM. most of those players outside of moutinho and falcao won't be on much in terms of wages for ASM.

Everything is relative and related to performances: ASM dudes are over-paid... for losers. Juve players earn more, but they win, therefore they are not overpaid (they are justifiably well-paid).

Also, no disrespect for Falcao, one of the few ASM players that I like and even respect, but he has been quite a bit over-estimated and overpaid all his career (especially in England).

(05-03-2017 05:14 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(05-03-2017 04:38 PM)floor7 Wrote:  

(05-03-2017 04:30 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Much respect for the Juve: for its great leader and warrior Buffon, also for Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, Marchisio... 5 tough, battle-hardened Italians on the pitch, plus 2 gifted Argentinians (almost in a way Italians, therefore, culturally)... they've humiliated the ASM, a club without real country or fan base, a club of over-paid mercenaries (club playing in the French league even though they had no native French on their starting team). Forza Juve!

Juventus wage bill is a lot higher than ASM. most of those players outside of moutinho and falcao won't be on much in terms of wages for ASM.

Everything is relative and related to performances: ASM dudes are over-paid... for losers. Juve players earn more, but they win, therefore they are not overpaid (they are justifiably well-paid).

Also, no disrespect for Falcao, one of the few ASM players that I like and even respect, but he has been quite a bit over-estimated and overpaid all his career (especially in England).

Losers?? Young players in the semi finals of the champions league!! i would hardly call them that.

Porto, Barcelona, Monaco.

Monaco really thought we're one of those English team who spent billions and end up getting nothing like Man City.

Neeeeext.

not much suspense for the 2nd leg even if Barcelona has proved a remontada is always possible.
Real Madrid vs Juventus sounds like a good final. I hope Juventus wins it.

I agree that Juve will probably lose if they give chances to RM as they did give to Monaco, but I always felt that Juve was not playing full 100% and could decide the pace and style of the game. They went more defensive with Barzagli on instead of Cuadrado and shifting Alves up to the wing. In the last 10-20 minutes they made substitutions to close up the shop, but I don't think even with more defenders and defensive midfielders that is a good idea against Monaco's strong attack.

But somehow it cannot be a coincidence for Juve to not concede a single goal for so many matches including against big attacking teams like Barcelona and Monaco. They conceded a few chances to Monaco as they did to Barca, but neither team could finish. Other chances there always seems to be a bunch of Juve defenders around to intercept or one last Bonucci or Chiellini block, or finally if it gets past them all Buffon is there. They have the most complete squad in Europe and they are not impenetrable, but very strong defensively. Juve will really have to have a freak horror night and Monaco a stunning performance for Monaco to stand any chance of coming back into this tie.

If we assume Juve v Real in the final, based on strength of squads overall, Juve is the better team and should win. But Champions League, World Cup finals are one off matches so they involve a lot of luck as well. I have a sneaky feeling that the curse of finals is going to continue for Juve. They have to shake that curse and get some good luck on the matchday.

I am not a fan of any of the clubs here or Bayern, but Bayern was the only team I saw that could rival Juventus. Real luckily eliminated Bayern with the help of the referee and simply some good luck which you need in these competitions. So Juve get to play Real rather than Bayern which they will prefer. It's Juve's cup to lose, good luck to all Juve supporters, the team gives the neutral a good lesson in team spirit, playing with heart and excellent defending.

(05-03-2017 04:35 PM)floor7 Wrote:  Monaco missed Mendy big time - both goals came through the juve right where mendy would've patrolled.

The Monaco coach made a big mistake, moving Sidibe to the left-wing defense (to cover for Mendy) and giving the right-wing defending task to (offensive player) Dirar. Dirar is no defender.

Instead, the coach should have given the job to an European player, veteran Italian and exemplary-fighter, Raggi.


Raggi would have smothered Alves on the right-flank.

Raggi has played like a hundred games for Monaco as a left-defender, and would have been ultra motivated (though respectful) against the Juve, an Italian team... Instead, the coach chose the Sidibe-Dirar, "young", PC ticket. Bad choice.

In any case, personally, I find it delicious that Monaco was beaten through 2 goals by a French-citizen player, Higuain (dual citizenship owner, Argentine and French)... Monaco refuses to give their chance to native French players, relegates (excellent, decisive, always exemplary) Germain on the bench, gets beaten by French-citizen Higuain.


Well-done pipita, you fucked ASM right in the pussy!

It's time for English teams to spend €200-300 millions on transfer this summer and then watch Champions League Semi Final from tv again as usual.

Meanwhile, we're playing Champions League with Barzagli, who cost 500k. A weekly salary for Rooney.

(05-04-2017 05:16 AM)Rossi Wrote:  Meanwhile, we're playing Champions League with Barzagli, who cost 500k. A weekly salary for Rooney.

(05-04-2017 05:16 AM)Rossi Wrote:  It's time for English teams to spend €200-300 millions on transfer this summer and then watch Champions League Semi Final from tv again as usual.

Meanwhile, we're playing Champions League with Barzagli, who cost 500k. A weekly salary for Rooney.

Yes, it must feel like for Juventus fans what it feels like for me to travel to EE and get 10x hotter girls for 2% the effort

Anglo teams can stick with the warpigs

(05-04-2017 05:16 AM)Rossi Wrote:  It's time for English teams to spend €200-300 millions on transfer this summer and then watch Champions League Semi Final from tv again as usual.

Meanwhile, we're playing Champions League with Barzagli, who cost 500k. A weekly salary for Rooney.

Bullshit. Barzagli expired his contract with Wolfsburg when he joined Juventus, by that logic we can also say that Ibrahimovic cost zero or just the contract signing prize to Manchester United.

Also this is a little bit disrespectful to Barzagli who is World Cup winner with Italy and not a nobody in the football world.

@Going Strong,

Falcao is a beast, he was the best pure striker in the world until he joined the crappy ManU team of Moyes. I am glad hes back and in great shape, one of my favorite players.

Higuain is much more overestimated and overpayed (90 million wtf...the same that was payed for Cristiano Ronaldo)

I really want to see Buffon win the CL.

(05-04-2017 05:14 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Bullshit. Barzagli expired his contract with Wolfsburg when he joined Juventus, by that logic we can also say that Ibrahimovic cost zero or just the contract signing prize to Manchester United.

Also this is a little bit disrespectful to Barzagli who is World Cup winner with Italy and not a nobody in the football world.

You have to learn before talking.

Barzagli joined to Juventus in January when we paid Wolfsburg around €400-500k. His contract was going to expire in May and we ended up getting him in January. Thats why, we paid 500k.

If we would have got him in May, he was gonna be free. Lesson learned?

Obviously, you don't know my team better than me.

Also, we got Coman for free from PSG. We ended up selling him for €28 millions. We also got Pogba for free from Manchester United and sold him back for €105 millions.

We paid €0 for both players, we profited €133 millions from selling them.

On top of that, even though we sold them with big profit, we're still going to Champions League Final while they are watching us from their tv.

We're really grateful for those English teams who don't really know football much. We're probably going to sell Bonucci to Man City or Chelsea this summer for around €70-80 millions this summer. We have Rugani coming up anyway.

(05-04-2017 08:01 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(05-04-2017 05:14 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Bullshit. Barzagli expired his contract with Wolfsburg when he joined Juventus, by that logic we can also say that Ibrahimovic cost zero or just the contract signing prize to Manchester United.

Also this is a little bit disrespectful to Barzagli who is World Cup winner with Italy and not a nobody in the football world.

You have to learn before talking.

Barzagli joined to Juventus in January when we paid Wolfsburg around €400-500k. His contract was going to expire in May and we ended up getting him in January. Thats why, we paid 500k.

If we would have got him in May, he was gonna be free. Lesson learned?

Obviously, you don't know my team better than me.

Also, we got Coman for free from PSG. We ended up selling him for €28 millions. We also got Pogba for free from Manchester United and sold him back for €105 millions.

We paid €0 for both players, we profited €133 millions from selling them.

On top of that, even though we sold them with big profit, we're still going to Champions League Final while they are watching us from their tv.

We're really grateful for those English teams who don't really know football much. We're probably going to sell Bonucci to Man City or Chelsea this summer for around €70-80 millions this summer. We have Rugani coming up anyway.

Yes, I know your team. Perpetual losers of finals in European team football. How many already? 8 or is it 9 ?

Countless great players join clubs for free, Ibrahimovic, Lewandowski, Larson, Ballack, Raul...nobody gives a damn.

You want me to talk about the millions your club spent in flops like Diego, Di Vaio, Filipe Melo, Amauri, Asamoah, Zaza, Matri....

In fact you have to learn before talking, because you talk and talk, yet nothing good comes out of it, only silly provocations.

(05-04-2017 10:17 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Yes, I know your team. Perpetual losers of finals in European team football. How many already? 8 or is it 9 ?

Countless great players join clubs for free, Ibrahimovic, Lewandowski, Larson, Ballack, Raul...nobody gives a damn.

You want me to talk about the millions your club spent in flops like Diego, Di Vaio, Filipe Melo, Amauri, Asamoah, Zaza, Matri....

In fact you have to learn before talking, because you talk and talk, yet nothing good comes out of it, only silly provocations.

All of sudden, you're so quiet about Barzagli. Did I educate you well?

Who was right? Me or you?

Did we pay €500,000 for him to Wolfsburg like I argued or did we get him for free because he was out of contract like you said?

When you're talking to me about my own team, I think you should educate yourself before talking about it.

If you think think that Marotta and Paratici bought Melo, Diego etc, you dont know nothing about Juventus anyway. Do I need to educate you about this too? Totally different management bought those players, our current management had nothing to do with those transfers. I see now, why you don't know even simple things about Juventus.

Before cricitizing about Juventus, you first have to tell me about your team as well. Is it CSKA Moscow, Porto, Benfica or Rubin Kazan?

Advance from group stage first, then we talk about it if you support Russian teams.

If you support Portugese teams, I have a better story for you.

Porto 0-2 Juventus
Juventus 1-0 Porto

Napoli 4-1 Benfica
Benfica 1-2 Napoli

Have fun playing against Arouca at your domestic league, since you're eliminated long time ago from Europe.

(05-04-2017 10:49 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(05-04-2017 10:17 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Yes, I know your team. Perpetual losers of finals in European team football. How many already? 8 or is it 9 ?

Countless great players join clubs for free, Ibrahimovic, Lewandowski, Larson, Ballack, Raul...nobody gives a damn.

You want me to talk about the millions your club spent in flops like Diego, Di Vaio, Filipe Melo, Amauri, Asamoah, Zaza, Matri....

In fact you have to learn before talking, because you talk and talk, yet nothing good comes out of it, only silly provocations.

All of sudden, you're so quiet about Barzagli. Did I educate you well?

Who was right? Me or you?

Did we pay €500,000 for him to Wolfsburg like I argued or did we get him for free because he was out of contract like you said?

When you're talking to me about my own team, I think you should educate yourself before talking about it.

If you think think that Marotta and Paratici bought Melo, Diego etc, you dont know nothing about Juventus anyway. Do I need to educate you about this too? Totally different management bought those players, our current management had nothing to do with those transfers. I see now, why you don't know even simple things about Juventus.

Before cricitizing about Juventus, you first have to tell me about your team as well. Is it CSKA Moscow or Rubin Kazan?

Advance from group stage first, then we talk about it.

I am on team pussy nowadays. Football discussion is for losers. Is it educated enough for you?

(05-04-2017 05:14 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Bullshit. Barzagli expired his contract with Wolfsburg when he joined Juventus

So, we got Barzagli on free transfer from Wolfsburg huh?

You know something that whole Italian media and Juventus fans missed. Share the details with us please. Where did you reat that? RT.com or Abola.pt?

Although this year, I don't believe in miracles, there are still 90 minutes to play - at least.

And there have been far greater miracles in european football, than turning a 0:2 / 0:3 in game 2.

I think that Ronaldo (if they make it to the final) will decide the match. And they have Kroos, defensively strong and almost 100% in passing.

One goal for Real could be enough to win the title.

(05-04-2017 10:17 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(05-04-2017 08:01 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(05-04-2017 05:14 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Bullshit. Barzagli expired his contract with Wolfsburg when he joined Juventus, by that logic we can also say that Ibrahimovic cost zero or just the contract signing prize to Manchester United.

Also this is a little bit disrespectful to Barzagli who is World Cup winner with Italy and not a nobody in the football world.

You have to learn before talking.

Barzagli joined to Juventus in January when we paid Wolfsburg around €400-500k. His contract was going to expire in May and we ended up getting him in January. Thats why, we paid 500k.

If we would have got him in May, he was gonna be free. Lesson learned?

Obviously, you don't know my team better than me.

Also, we got Coman for free from PSG. We ended up selling him for €28 millions. We also got Pogba for free from Manchester United and sold him back for €105 millions.

We paid €0 for both players, we profited €133 millions from selling them.

On top of that, even though we sold them with big profit, we're still going to Champions League Final while they are watching us from their tv.

We're really grateful for those English teams who don't really know football much. We're probably going to sell Bonucci to Man City or Chelsea this summer for around €70-80 millions this summer. We have Rugani coming up anyway.

Yes, I know your team. Perpetual losers of finals in European team football. How many already? 8 or is it 9 ?

Countless great players join clubs for free, Ibrahimovic, Lewandowski, Larson, Ballack, Raul...nobody gives a damn.

You want me to talk about the millions your club spent in flops like Diego, Di Vaio, Filipe Melo, Amauri, Asamoah, Zaza, Matri....

Matri was not a flop at the Juve, he didn't cost a lot of money to begin with (15 millions max?) and scored quite enough goals, if I remember well... he was nevertheless a resounding flop at Milan AC, but no problem for the Juve that sold him to Milan at the right time...

This is turning into my team is better than your team.