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(04-18-2013 12:33 AM)EisenBarde Wrote:  Cervantes e como Shakespeare. Nadie habla como Cervantes hoy.
Eso era lo que intentaba decir.

(04-18-2013 05:14 AM)Dulceácido Wrote:  
(04-17-2013 10:13 PM)Pete Wrote:  no esta mal escrito.. pero nadie habla espanol asi mano!

¡Perfecto! Nunca he escuchado nadie refiere a otra persona como "mano."
¿Qué querés decir? La Mano es una organización criminal, pero nadie dice "nadie habla así mano."
This is the point of the thread. People use words in a regional/contextual manner which may not be apparently clear.

So, albeit in a roundabout and condescending way, a couple of dudes have contributed something valuable to the thread. One dude, completely and incorrectly wants to throw in the use of the article que. In the improper way he is implying que should be used, it absolutely does not work and should be completely avoided. Other dude, a native speaker, who may not have much formal education in his native tongue, but speaks Spanish nonetheless, has pointed out something that gives English speakers a very difficult problem when translating from one language to the other... He brings up an interesting dilemma. Let's look at the use and omission of articles and see if we can't establish some easy ground rules, without trying to dig too deeply into fluency. Here's one of the best examples I could find on the net, which I think explains this quite well (this is taken from about.com):

Quote:¿Hablas español? El español es la lengua de la Argentina. (Do you speak Spanish? Spanish is the language of Argentina.)
If you're paying attention or are particularly analytical about words, you may have noticed something about the words el and la — words usually translated as "the" — in the above sentences. In the first sentence, español is used to translate "Spanish," but in the second sentence it's el español. And Argentina, a country name that stands alone in English, is preceded by la in the Spanish sentence.

These differences typify just a couple of the differences in how the definite article ("the" in English and usually el, la, los or las in Spanish) is used in the two languages. Using the definite article when you shouldn't or the other way around won't make you misunderstood very often, but using it correctly will make you sound like less of a foreigner.

The easy rule: Fortunately, although the rules of using the definite article can be complex, you have a head start if you speak English. That's because nearly any time you use "the" in English you can use the definite article in Spanish. Of course, there are exceptions. Here are the cases where Spanish doesn't use the definite article while English does:

Before ordinal numbers for names of rulers and similar people. Luis octavo (Luis the Eighth), Carlos quinto (Carlos the Fifth).
Some proverbs (or statements made in a proverbial fashion) omit the article. Camarón que se duerme, se lo lleva la corriente. (The shrimp that falls asleep gets carried away by the current.) Perro que ladra no muerde. (The dog that barks doesn't bite.)
When used in nonrestrictive apposition, the article is often omitted. This usage can best be explained by example. Vivo en Las Vegas, ciudad que no duerme. (I live in Las Vegas, the city that doesn't sleep.) In this case, ciudad que no duerme is in apposition to Las Vegas. The clause is said to be nonrestrictive because it doesn't define which Las Vegas; it only provides additional information. The article isn't used. But Vivo en Washington, el estado. Here, el estado is in apposition to Washington, and it defines which Washington (it "restricts" Washington), so the article is used. Conozco a Julio Iglesias, cantante famoso. (I know Julio Iglesias, the famous singer.) In this sentence, presumably both the person speaking and any listeners know who Iglesias is, so the phrase in apposition (cantante famoso) doesn't tell who he is (it doesn't "restrict"), it merely provides additional information. The definite article isn't needed. But Escogí a Bob Smith, el médico. (I chose Bob Smith, the doctor.) The listener doesn't know who Bob Smith is, and el médico serves to define him ("restrict" him). The definite article would be used.
In certain set phrases that don't follow any particular pattern. Examples: A largo plazo (in the long run), en alta mar (on the high seas).

Far more common are cases where you don't use the article in English but you need it in Spanish. Following are the most common such uses. Keep in mind that there are some regional variations and exceptions. But this list should include most of the instances you will come across.
Days of the week: Days of the week typically are preceded by either el or los, depending on whether the day is singular or plural (the names of the weekdays don't change in the plural form). Voy a la tienda el jueves. (I'm going to the store on Thursday.) Voy a la tienda los jueves. (I go to the store on Thursdays.) The article isn't used following a form of the verb ser to indicate which day of the week it is. Hoy es lunes. (Today is Monday.)

Seasons of the year: Seasons normally need the definite article, although it is optional after de, en or a form of ser. Prefiero los inviernos. (I prefer winters.) No quiero asistir a la escuela de verano. (I don't want to go to the summer school.)

With more than one noun: In English, we can often omit the "the" when using two or more nouns joined by "and" or "or," as the article is understood to apply to both. That's not so in Spanish. El hermano y la hermana están tristes. (The brother and sister are sad.) Vendemos la casa y la silla. (We're selling the house and chair.)

With generic nouns: These are nouns that refer to a concept or to a substance in general or a member of a class in general, rather than a specific one (where the article would be required in both languages). No preferiría el despotismo. (I wouldn't prefer despotism.) Esto es la realidad de la vida. (This is the reality of life.) El trigo es nutritivo. (Wheat is nutritious.) Los americanos son ricos. (Americans are rich.) Los derechistas no deben votar. (Right-wingers ought not to vote.) Escogí la cristianidad. (I chose Christianity.) Exception: The article is often omitted after the preposition de, especially when the noun following de serves to describe the first noun and doesn't refer to a specific person or thing. Los zapatos de hombres (men's shoes), but los zapatos de los hombres (the shoes of the men). Dolor de muela (toothache in general), but dolor de la muela (a toothache in a particular tooth).

With names of languages: Names of languages require the article except when they immediately follow en or a verb that is often used of languages (particularly saber, aprender, and hablar, and sometimes entender, escribir or estudiar). The article also is required after an adverb or a preposition other than en. Hablo español. (I speak Spanish.) Hablo bien el español. (I speak Spanish well.) Prefiero el inglés. (I prefer English.) Aprendemos inglés. (We are learning English.)

With clothing, body parts and other personal items: It is very common to use the definite article in Spanish in cases where a possessive adjective (such as "your") would be used in English. Examples: ¡Abre los ojos! (Open your eyes!) Perdió los zapatos. (He lost his shoes.)

With infinitives used as subjects: El entender es difícil. (Understanding is difficult.) El fumar está prohibido. (Smoking is prohibited.)

Before the names of some countries: The names of some countries, and a few cities, are preceded by the definite article. In some cases it's mandatory or nearly so (el Reino Unido, la India), while in other cases it's optional but common (el Canadá, la China). Even if a country isn't on the list, the article is used if the country is modified by an adjective. Voy a México. (I'm going to Mexico.) But, voy al México bello. (I'm going to beautiful Mexico.) The article is also commonly used before the names of mountains: el Everest, el Fuji.

Before names of streets: Streets, avenues, plazas and similar places are usually preceded by the article. La Casa Blanca está en la avenida Pennsylvania. (The White House is on Pennsylvania Avenue.)

With personal titles: The article is used before most personal titles when talking about people, but not when talking to them. El señor Smith está en casa. (Mr. Smith is at home.) But, hola, señor Smith (hello, Mr. Smith). La doctora Jones asistió a la escuela. (Dr. Jones attended the school.) But, doctora Jones, ¿como está? (Dr. Jones, how are you?) La is also often used when speaking about a famous woman using her last name only. La Spacek durmió aquí. (Spacek slept here.)

In certain set phrases: Many of these involve places. En el espacio (in space), en la televisión (on television).


I make mistakes in Spanish nearly every time I open my mouth. I am still learning and learn something new almost every day. This example is a valuable lesson to students learning the language. Some people who may or may not have any formal training in the language or "native speakers" who may not speak grammatically correct are often the first people to throw out some unqualified, unsolicited, and ultimately incorrect revisions to what you are intending to say. This is a human thing. For whatever reason, it seems to mostly happen with American-born Spanish speakers who have some form of Caribbean descent (Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Dominicans, etc.) who grew up speaking Spanish in the States because of their parents or their neighborhoods, but could not pass Spanish in High School. Take it with a grain salt, but try to filter out the unqualified (poor) advice. You want to be a sponge when you're learning but people can throw a wrench into your shit if you're not careful... Try to familiarize yourself thoroughly with the basics!
I'm sorry if I came off as condescending. I don't know if you were referring to me, but all my education was in spanish (except english courses),about 85% of my university courses were in spanish. If you think someone with a bachelor's degree is a good example of an uneducated person,well.... Unlike you, that may only know about spanish from reading books and talking spanish every once in a while, I know spanish since I was born. I just learned english when I was in high school.

That may come off as condescending, but not as condescending as what you implied.

The only american thing about me is my citizenship. I was not raised, nor have I lived in the US. So I'm not an "american-born spanish speaker".

(04-18-2013 08:56 AM)Volk Wrote:  Did any of you visitors get surprised when locals said "Gonorrea" quite frequently as part of the slang in Medellin?
I was surprised. Where I live gonorrea is only used for the disease. But when I went to Medellin I quickly understood it.

Gonorrea (from what I learned) is like "bro" or "cabron" or "hijo de puta" which we spanish speakers sometimes use when we speak with friends. "cabron que hay" would be like "what's up bro"

(04-18-2013 03:49 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  
(04-18-2013 03:00 PM)Mekorig Wrote:  Jejejejeje, the "coger" problem is very funny, i love to see the people´s faces when some foreign trying to speak in spanish say that. Yeah, slang for each country is hard to learn, specially when you have diferent regional slangs in each country (eck, and that is not counting the accents).

And finally, yes, i would love to see a spanish-speaking thread in the forum.

PD: BTW, "Mano", or "manito", is mexican slang for "dude" or "bro".

Yeah, I kind of figured that was what he was getting at with the mano. For those interested, la mano is the hand. Here we find it used colloquially meaning "dude" or "bro." The diminutive -íto just means "small" or "little." So, maníto would be a "tiny hand." I would imagine, that the colloquial use of mano o maníto would probably stem from the shortening of the words hermano and hermaníto, meaning "brother" and "little brother." You shouldn't assume people will know that and if you say mano to someone not familiar with the word used in that form of expression, they will probably assume you mean "hand" and think you made an error as an up and coming Spanish-speaking pimp! Good to know! Noted! That goes into my bag of tricks...

The other thing Mekorig has alluded to (as well as International Playboy) is the use of the Spanish verb coger, which means "to grab or seize." In many, many Spanish speaking cultures, the word coger has evolved to, almost exclusively, mean "to fuck." So, you can see where this could be embarrassing.
This can be avoided by substituting the Spanish verbs asir or agarrar. The verb tomar can sometimes be used, but it has several meanings as well, so until you get the lingo down, stick with the other two words. Both words mean what we would say in English as "grab." Asir las maletas. "To grab the luggage." The word agarrar implies to grab something with force... Like you would a fleeing crime suspect (or some lizard you're trying to drag from the club caveman game style).

Sooo, watch what you coger becuase you may just want to asir it. You don't want to tell the doorman to go fuck your luggage.

See? That's what I tried to say (in this post). Just because you read a bit and spoke spanish a few times, doesn't mean you know the practical uses of words. No disrespect, I'm just stating my point.
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(04-18-2013 09:05 AM)Dulceácido Wrote:  I've never noticed it, Volk. Could you explain how it is used and give an example in a sentence with surrounding context?

Man! What kind of people are you guys hanging out with when you come here? Anyways, the use depends on the target. If I say it about somebody I am not on good terms with, it's a pejorative term :

Vos sos una gonorrea de persona -> "You are shitty kind of person" (but more agressive)

If I say it about somebody who I am not against, it just means "Man" or "Dude".

Que gonorrea tan fuerte -> "That guy really is strong"

Mind that they are all rough translations, I don't think there's any way to put them in accurate terms in English when it comes to Paisa slang.
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(04-18-2013 06:46 PM)Pete Wrote:  I'm sorry if I came off as condescending. I don't know if you were referring to me, but all my education was in spanish (except english courses),about 85% of my university courses were in spanish. If you think someone with a bachelor's degree is a good example of an uneducated person,well.... Unlike you, that may only know about spanish from reading books and talking spanish every once in a while, I know spanish since I was born. I just learned english when I was in high school.
Pseudo-apology accepted, but I was only referring to you 1/2 of the time, the other 1/2 was for the other dude. Choose which parts are applicable.
And if everyone who posts here is going to have to "qualify" everything they say, this whole idea is going to quickly go to shit and the thread is going to suck... So, I'm definitely not trying to turn this into a dick-measuring contest. But, since I was apparently too vague in the first post of the thread, I have a bachelors degree (and an associates--hey!) in Spanish and I've lived the better half of my life all over South America. So, yeah, I guess I have had the opportunity to speak it on the rare occasion I wasn't just studying it in books... But we're all always learning (I hope) and thought this would be a cool place to poke fun at one another for the silly shit we all say in Spanish, depending on where we are from...

(04-18-2013 06:46 PM)Pete Wrote:  See? That's what I tried to say (in this post). Just because you read a bit and spoke spanish a few times, doesn't mean you know the practical uses of words. No disrespect, I'm just stating my point.

Then this... Ugh... Again, if there was any doubt, you could always refer to the first post where:

(04-17-2013 01:30 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  In closing, I thought it would be cool to have the native and advanced Spanish speakers to drop some of the colloquial expressions that they are familiar with and describe the different nuisances across the regions.

So, you don't really need to go out of your way to make a point that all you want to do is participate in the thread in the exact manner which I intended we all would. Just roll with it.

No disrespect.

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I thought "marica" was a funny slang in Colombia.
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(04-17-2013 10:13 PM)Pete Wrote:  
(04-17-2013 05:19 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  Alright... Firstly, the title of the thread is not incorrect. The title of the thread is the name of the song the guys are singing in the video which also happens to be the chorus, which is said dozens of times throughout the song.

Que sorpresa, eh. ¿Quién sabía que hay tantos profesores de español acá? Pero bueno como sea, podemos pasar todo el tiempo intentando corregir errores que no existen o podemos platicar sobre la tema del post. ¿Verdad?
no esta mal escrito.. pero nadie habla espanol asi mano!

Well actually "tema" is masculine, so it should be "el tema". And I would say "Quién podría saber" instead of "Quien sabía", it adds sarcasm to the phrase....

The rest is OK, probably better than my English :-)
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(04-18-2013 06:22 PM)Nudge Wrote:  Hey Mekorig do you use follar at all in Argentina for "to fuck"? Or is this purely a Spain thing?

Not at all. "follar" (to fuck) is totally a spanish lingo. in the only moment you use "follar" is when you are imitating an spaniard to make a joke or something like that.

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Alguien aqui habla espanol? Seria chevere tener un "thread" en el que podamos conversar los que hablamos espanol e intercambiar experiencias.
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I've got it! Let's have a thread where we experienced Spanish speakers interchange experiences we've had in relation to the subject of the post!

(04-17-2013 01:30 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  In closing, I thought it would be cool to have the native and advanced Spanish speakers to drop some of the colloquial expressions that they are familiar with and describe the different nuisances across the regions.

Jajaja! Aye, Dios. Me están matando chicos....

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Some mexican slang:

wey: similar to "dude", only used when speaking with other men almost never with a woman, some women will use it with both men and women.
Vato: similar, but used in the north of Mexico, specially Monterrey.
vieja: used by men to refer to women. Ex. "Voy a cenar con mi vieja." It can be used when speaking of other girls, ex "esa vieja esta bien buena!" Normally shouldn't be said in front of women, in some cases it might, depends on the girl and how close you're to her.
estar buena: a girl that is hot, again normally shouldn't be used with a girl.
coger: to fuck.
mamada: can mean either a blowjob or something stupid; nonsense. Ex. "Mi novia me hizo una mamada" will normally mean the former although it could mean the latter too. "No digas mamadas" would mean exclusively the latter.
No mames!: I would trabslate it like Gimme a break.
chupar: either giving a blowjob or going to drink. "Vamos a chupar!"= lets go drinking.
tomar: normal usage is "to take", in colloquial language its also going drinking. "Vamos a tomar"

Most of the mexican slang is to be used with other men, girls may use it with you. Mexican slang can be used with girls when speaking in third person. Ex "No digas mamadas" shouldn't be used with a girl you just met, not even jokingly, but you can say "Mi amigo dice puras mamadas, esta ebrio" or something like that.
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Great post, Numa! Thanks for that.

To address IP, the Colombian use of marica...

Marica is translated as faggot, but in Colombia it is used (a LOT) in several ways. It is especially used by costeños(people form the Caribbean coast) and can literally mean almost any way to refer to another person, whether you like them or not, the way we would use the word dude or bro. So, some examples:

Mire esa marica. Look at that faggot.
¡Vamos Marica! Let's go, dude.

It can also be inserted as a a vulgar adverb, for example:
¿Qué marica me pasa? What the fuck just happened to me?

So, in Colombia, don't get offended if someone calls you marica if it is in the context of the same way you might say dude. On the other hand, if someone refers to you as marica, it is probably an insult.

Numa dropped a gang of science on Mexican slang. All of his advice is solid. If you are talking to someone and they say wey (sometimes pronounced more distinctly as bue), you can probably guess they are indeed Mexican.
Everything he said about the verb mamar which translates, literally, as to suck is pretty vital because it gets tossed around very often.

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Just to add something useful:

echar un polvo: to fuck
paja cubana: tit fuck
morrear(se): to make out (with tongue)
comer(le) la boca: to make out (with tongue)
ponerla mirando a Cuenca: fucking a girl in doggy style (anal or not)

These are spanish (from Spain) expression, I seriously doubt anyone will understand in South America, specially the "paja cubana" known in other countries like "paja española" even English speaking countries....
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(04-20-2013 10:09 AM)Senorbeta Wrote:  Just to add something useful:

echar un polvo: to fuck
paja cubana: tit fuck
morrear(se): to make out (with tongue)
comer(le) la boca: to make out (with tongue)
ponerla mirando a Cuenca: fucking a girl in doggy style (anal or not)

These are spanish (from Spain) expression, I seriously doubt anyone will understand in South America, specially the "paja cubana" known in other countries like "paja española" even English speaking countries....

This is awesome...

I was reading (just yesterday) a book "Diario de una Prepago Adolescente" by Ale. G. and she mentioned una paja Cubana and I had no idea wtf that was. Makes perfect sense, too. She was talking about satisfying some of her clients when she happened to be in Taiwan and said a lot of time with los Chinos she didn't even have to have vaginal sex, she could just jerk them off or hacer una paja Cubana... That's good shit. Titty fuck... Hmmm. The book is written by a Colombiana, so I suppose it's used in Colombia, too. I fucking lived there and never heard the term. Good deal.

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Here in Argentina is just "hacer una cubana" (Doing a cubana).

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Sweet. Learning all kinds of shit today. Let's keep them coming...

For those who need a little more help, here are some things that aren't quite cut and dry:

To jerk off: hacer(se) una paja Don't ask me how it originated because paja means "straw." Like a straw hat, not like a drinking straw which would be una sorbeta.

You could also go the more formal route and use the reflexive verb mastubar(se) - to masturbate. Just separate the reflexive part of the verb and conjugate masturbar as normal. For example:
Me masturbo mirando mi foto-- I jerk off looking at my own picture.

Using the word polvo to refer to a "fuck" is very common, too. Polvo literally means "powder" or "dust," but is often used when talking about sex. For example: ¡Que buen polvo sos! You're a great lay!
It's sometimes used with the diminutive as well, as in Necesito una gringa para un polvíto--I need a quick fuck with an American chick. Be careful, though! As polvo means "powder," it is also used as a reference to cocaine. For example, ¿Tenés polvo?--Do you have any blow?

As Señorbeta points out, there are several ways to express a make-out session. Morrear(se), comer la boca etc. In Miami once, I heard someone use basilar(se), but I don't know how common it is. Anyone else ever heard that? Like Te basilaste con una fea anoche--You made out with an ugly chick last night. Anyone else got any "make out" references?

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If you guys want to learn some nasty Argentinian-Uruguayan slang check out El Bananero. Funny shit.
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(04-20-2013 09:54 AM)Dulceácido Wrote:  Numa dropped a gang of science on Mexican slang. All of his advice is solid. If you are talking to someone and they say wey (sometimes pronounced more distinctly as bue), you can probably guess they are indeed Mexican.
Everything he said about the verb mamar which translates, literally, as to suck is pretty vital because it gets tossed around very often.
Thanks. Yes, mamar is used a lot, and depending the context it may be or not used in certain way or another. I would add that normally hacer una mamada (make a mamada) would mean do something stupid, while dar una mamada would mean to suck. We can also decir mamadas which is to say nonsense, estar mamando would be being a pain in the ass. Another similar use is the word mamon or mamona , i would translate it as someone who's pretentious, a snob. Ex. Ese wey desde que gana mucho dinero se volvio bien mamon. Ex. -No quiero salir hoy. -No seas mamon, vamos a chupar.

Another very used verb in mexican slang is chingar. Even Octavio Paz, the mexican writer who won the Nobel Prize in 1990, wrote extensively about the use of this verb in a book called The Labyrinth of Solitude. He thought it was deeply rooted in the Mexican ethos. It translates as fucking violently, both literally and (specially) figuratively. One of the worst mexican insults out there is chinga tu madre, should be used only if you're very angry or joking with a friend if one's close. Chingarse a alguien
although literally meaning fucking someone, is almost always used figuratively; it's used in the sense "imposing yourself over someone"; as in a rip-off Ex. El taxista me acaba de chingar, me cobro el doble de lo que cobran por ese trayecto. or in the sense of winning over someone at something Ex. Mi equipo de futbol se chingo a ese otro equipo; te voy a chingar en x juego, le chingue su novia a Juan, El gobierno nos esta chingando con esos impuestos!, Me acaban de asaltar, me chingaron mi celular.

The word chingon is either an adjective or a noun, as an adjective it describes someone that is good at chingar Ex. Soy un chingon para el futbol, a player could say "Soy un chingon para las viejas". As a noun it expresses a good idea Ex. Te fue bien, que chingon! or Chingon! me encontre 200 pesos en la calle.

A related mexican expression is vete a la chingada, which i would translate as go to hell, however it's way more offensive. It is somewhat similar to Chinga a tu madre. Ex. Ya mande a la chingada a mi novia, El profesor nos mando a la chingada, no repetira el examen.

The word marica is also used in Mexico as faggot, although puto is much more common. Pendejo, which means child in argentina (correct me if I'm wrong) means stupid in Mexico. Cabron is also used as in most of Spanish speaking America i think, it can be used in the same sense as chingon, mostly used to refer to someone or something being badass. Ex. Ese wey es bien cabron tocando la guitarra; Que cabron que te fue bien haciendo x. The difference is that cabron is used negatively in some cases. Ex. Esta cabron aprender a hablar en japones, esta cabron hacer feliz a esa vieja, siempre esta quejandose! Verga means dick or cock, the expressionestar de la verga is either a bad situation Ex. Esta de la verga que nunca hayas tenido sexo, wey; or an adjective meaning something is bad or ugly Ex. La novia de Pedro esta de la verga! Making out in Mexico would be fajar or fajonear.
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Yeah, pendejo can be use to refer to a child, but in a rude way. It can also can be used for someone inmature or stupid. "Que pendejo de mierda!" can be translated as "what a douche/idiot!". Also, "pendejada", as in "esto es una pendejada" is an inmature or idiotic action.

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(04-20-2013 03:22 PM)Titan Wrote:  If you guys want to learn some nasty Argentinian-Uruguayan slang check out El Bananero. Funny shit.

Jajajaja! Just watched a couple videos. Really funny! Sucks, I have satellite internet and it's slow as shit. Definitely gonna bookmark that site for when I get back to first-world connectivity.

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Look for Dustin Lake channel in youtube. This USA guy have a very good argentinian spanish, and even in some videos he teaches his USA friends on how speaking the local lingo.

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This video is gold and genius. There was an Español thread on the Everything Else forum. Lots of native spanish speakers here, thats good.

Another thing, I hear ocassionally that Español is a easy language. Once I thought it true, but once you try explaining something to someone learning Spanish, you realize is not easy at all. Specially to my chinese speaking friends, a language so different than spanish, I just can't help but feel a little bad. But thats the way it is with all languages I guess.

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Great thread! Learned a lot! Keep it coming boys!
Good list! Btw, is the verb comer (to eat) also used in Spanish in Latin America as it is Portuguese (or at least in Brasil) to refer to fucking?

In Brasil when you say to a girl "vou te comer moça" it means "I'm going to fuck you girl". If you say to a latina chick "voy a comer-te" is she going to understand that you're going to fuck her?

(04-20-2013 10:09 AM)Senorbeta Wrote:  Just to add something useful:

echar un polvo: to fuck
paja cubana: tit fuck
morrear(se): to make out (with tongue)
comer(le) la boca: to make out (with tongue)
ponerla mirando a Cuenca: fucking a girl in doggy style (anal or not)

These are spanish (from Spain) expression, I seriously doubt anyone will understand in South America, specially the "paja cubana" known in other countries like "paja española" even English speaking countries....
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(04-21-2013 08:28 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  Great thread! Learned a lot! Keep it coming boys!
Good list! Btw, is the verb comer (to eat) also used in Spanish in Latin America as it is Portuguese (or at least in Brasil) to refer to fucking?

In Brasil when you say to a girl "vou te comer moça" it means "I'm going to fuck you girl". If you say to a latina chick "voy a comer-te" is she going to understand that you're going to fuck her?

Comer is not expressly used to refer to sex, but it works. Same as in English. I'm gonna eat you up, girl. It's implied. Especially if you mean oral sex. Te voy a comer como un helado, Chica. "I'm gonna eat you like an ice cream, girl."

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¡No joda! This is an awesome expression you will hear a lot, which is very useful.
Joder is the Spanish intransitive verb meaning to fuck synonymous with follar or fornicar. When someone says No joda it is translated as something like get the fuck outta here as an expression of surprise or disbelief. You can also say, no me jodes which would be like "don't fuck with me" or me estás jodiendo "you're fucking with me."

Cosas que te hacen decir: ¡No joda! Things that make you say: get the fuck outta here!
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My reactions to the pictures, just to put it into context :

1st : Huy marica!
2nd : Que hijueputa mas bruto.
3rd : Que gonorreas tan feos.
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