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Best time to get a girlfriend is when you don't need one.
04-20-2013 08:17 PM
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No means yes, and yes means anal.
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(04-17-2013 08:40 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  Women often act out because they want you to punish them.

Yes, it didn't occur to me that they are trying to provoke you. Especially the biters - they are trying to be slapped and choked.
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If a girl has decided she wants to fuck you, there's almost nothing that can stop her.

A pessimist thinks all women are bad. An optimist hopes that they are...
-Stolen outright from Captain Peligroso

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(12-07-2012 02:38 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  When you get her a little tipsy, a little horny, and behind closed doors - treat her like a farm animal. That is when she is free and safe to release all her slutty inhibitions!
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If you don't fuck an American girl for the first time when she wants to be fucked, you will probably never get another opportunity

"If anything's gonna happen, it's gonna happen out there!- Captain Ron
04-21-2013 02:21 PM
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Most of the people around you are unconscious, blue pill zombies and will vehemently defend their right to be so.

Your success (especially with game) offends and threatens them as it obliterates their excuses for not doing / being (x), in a way that they can't deny... by example.
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if you are so inclined, having a boyfriend or a husband means a whoooooooooooooole lot less to a much greater number of women than you think.

I've had girls flirt, flash, kiss and snog me all while their [in]significant other was in the next room (sometimes not even).

All that matters is that her reputation is never under threat and that her hamster can rationalize it as "your fault" or "just happening"
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Game is like a muscle. You have to warm it up, keep training it and use it often.
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Whatever is on the inside WILL come out, so get your head in it first.
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Sometimes you just gotta cut your losses
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3:1 ratio. For example... If she says I love you thrice, you say it once.
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More often than not, the women who are the most vocal against game are the ones on whom it is most effective . AND the guys most opposed to it are the ones who need it the most.
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Make up, heels, bras, hairdressing, nail polish, alcohol. Are all the female equivalent of male game.

Men are attracted to the visual so women, use the aforementioned-amongst other things-to build on their strengths improve their visual presentation.

Girls (in a pickup) are more about your attitude, presentation and what they hear. So we build on what we are improving what needs it and polishing the shiny bits.
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If there is a particular piece of game advice that offends you or puts you off, reflect on why. May be that it touches on something you really need to work on. (Hat tip G)
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Girls will be as dirty as they feel they can get away with.
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(04-21-2013 02:21 PM)MrXY Wrote:  If you don't fuck an American girl for the first time when she wants to be fucked, you will probably never get another opportunity

pretty sure that's universal
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(04-21-2013 02:21 PM)MrXY Wrote:  If you don't fuck an American girl for the first time when she wants to be fucked, you will probably never get another opportunity

Not always. Although as you said, probably not. I think the point to take from this is always go for it 100%, but if you can't get there go as far as you can.
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Treat them like dirt they stick like mud.


Slap them on the cheek while having sex, they will get more wet.
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(04-17-2013 12:50 PM)Divorco Wrote:  4) In addition to improving looks/money/status and increasing attraction with "game", the major skills are screening and logistics. You need to assess whether a woman is interested or just wasting your time (bored or polite, attention whore, dinner whore, etc.). Then you need to have logistics planned to escalate quickly. Those magical dates don't happen by chance.

This is the hardest for me to ascertain. I need to get better at reading IOIs and recalibrating. I also have to remind myself to see how she acts rather than listening to what she says. I need to re-read Rollo's The Medium is the Message post.
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Pokerbaby's analogy to poker:

1) Always try to hold "jacks or better" when getting aggressive.

- you can win with any two cards. A great PUA like Roosh might win a poker tournament when his best hand all night is pocket 2's. He might be able to go a week without bathing and still pull better than you. A master of knowing when to bluff and when to fold can go a long way. But for someone new to the game, play "tight". Have good style, workout, read a few books on game and approach and this will put you ahead of 80% of the competition.

2) Know when to fold.

Look at some point you got to realize this bitch isn't going to give you her number or come home with you. Cut your losses. Don't invest your whole night on a losing hand.

3) A good table is your best bet at long term success.

- Substitute "table" with "bar" or "club" or anywhere else to meet. The number one way poker players make ends meet is to sit down at a table with really bad players. You aren't looking for "glory". You want quick and easy money.

If there was a club that was hosting Supermodel night, then all the big players would be there- good looking, smooth, millionaires. I'd rather go to a club that had a few hotties, lots of average women and no players.

4) What they think you have is more important than what you really do have.

That's why you don't go off boasting and don't tell them your whole life's story 20 seconds after you meet. Evasive answers, mystery, and lots of confidence will get you a lot farther.
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04-24-2013 02:12 AM
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A.scarcity mindset kills EVERYTHING
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Here are some of my most important learnings compiled from my personal experiences and mentors over the years. Enjoy the read and don't hesitate to ask questions!


Women crave security from men.

Women want to be lead and taken care of emotionally and financially. They need to appear to be well behaved to the people in their lives.

Women are taught they need to get a man to “provide” for them.



Men crave approval from their family, friends, peers, etc…

Men don’t want to do anything that is disapproved of to avoid being labeled “weird” or “creepy”. Once you get over this fear, your success with women will follow naturally.

Anything you try and suppress communicates much more loudly if you try and hide it.

Doing things that do not make you happy just for the sake of gaining external approval is insane.

Don’t concern yourself with what other people think of you or think is “good for you”.

How do you feel about yourself is the most important thing… Nothing else matters.

Give others the choice to be a part of your life… or not, but you will not bend.



Redefining “success” helps you get a lot farther in game.

The idea that “success” must be a favorable outcome has been instilled by society. The real definition of success is “an outcome” (it can be positive or negative).

In that case, a failure means “no outcome”.

Therefore, to fail is to not try.



Redefining your reality can change you overnight.

Redefining your belief system on what is possible with women. What women crave, how they want to be treated, etc…

Redefining how you perceive yourself, your lifestyle, and your relationships, can make the difference between you viewing yourself is a playboy or a loser who lives in his mommas basement.



Playful confidence is the key to unlock anything.

Learn from the TV figures such as Hank Moody from Californication and the likes. They exude playful confidence. Approach everything in life with this attitude and less seriousness and it will open many doors and legs for you.

You can be as filthy as you want with girls as long as you do it with a smile.



Sell, sell, sell.

If you are able to get people to open up and keep talking about their passions, dreams, hopes, goals, etc… they will be drawn to you.



Women hate men who bend.

Women are hardwired to test a man’s frame. If he bends easily and is willing to step outside his boundaries on a whim it shows he has no self-respect and is weak.

It is almost impossible for women to find a man who is unapologetic and completely sure of themselves. Women are looking for leadership.

No woman is aroused by a man that she does not respect. If you walk up to her knowing you are awesome, she will follow your lead.



Girls love badboys.

A badboy is a “guy who does things against the rules”.

Women love to be terrified while knowing they are safe. A woman can only orgasm is she feels she is safe.

A man who does not need her is what women find sexy.



You cannot make other people happy.

You can only worry about your own happiness and your own self-improvement.

If you concern yourself with what other people want you will be led down a miserable path.



Girls love sex.

For guys that think girls do not like to sleep around more than men… You are wrong.

Girls want to fuck any guy that they are attracted to and turned on by while maintaining their “good girl” image.

If you are able to communicate to the girl that in no way are you going to interfere with her reputation, social circle, pursuit of other guys and you will merely be filthy no-strings-attached sex, you will be good to go.

Make girls orgasm and they will come back to you.

Getting her to orgasm while she has your dick in her mouth is positive reinforcement.



Girls do not want to be viewed as sluts.

While they want to be treated like sluts in the bedroom, few girls generally want to be pumped and dumped by a guy without having their value as a person recognized.

Building a genuine connection with women while creating an environment to make them feel safe to let their “inner slut” out is crucial.
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One of my first lessons was my surprise at how many women want to be physically dominated; manhandled. Grabbed and choked, and treated like property.

It obviously has to be calibrated - and you need to have a high awareness of who you are with.

Do this with the wrong girl or under the wrong circumstances, and you will get yourself in a pile of trouble.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdhFJ5uArUc
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(04-24-2013 09:10 AM)gandt Wrote:  Redefining how you perceive yourself, your lifestyle, and your relationships, can make the difference between you viewing yourself is a playboy or a loser who lives in his mommas basement.

Just a footnote that "redefining yourself" is based on action and on what you do, not on your thought process.

If you sit home /never approach women yet redefine yourself as a player, you're not only not a player, you're delusional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdhFJ5uArUc
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Embrace the jitters/nervousness prior to an approach. I live for this rush, this feeling tells me it's something worth doing. Afterall, 90% of success is showing up.

If you're not growing, you're dying.
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(04-24-2013 01:16 PM)Sugar Wrote:  
(04-24-2013 09:10 AM)gandt Wrote:  Redefining how you perceive yourself, your lifestyle, and your relationships, can make the difference between you viewing yourself is a playboy or a loser who lives in his mommas basement.

Just a footnote that "redefining yourself" is based on action and on what you do, not on your thought process.

If you sit home /never approach women yet redefine yourself as a player, you're not only not a player, you're delusional.

Absolutely. I would say it's a combination of both.
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-No ones gonna give it to you. You have to take it.
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Gandt that post was on point!
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Biggest red pill lesson:
When I was 5 years old, and I was travelling by airplane for the first time. When I went in to heaven in the skies for the first time, I realised, there was no god.
That same year, I realized, there was no santa claus either. Ever since, I always sought the truth. Because i knew that i had been told lies my whole life. Big Grin

My biggest game lesson: knowing players and naturals, observing them and mirroring them was by far the most important thing in learning game for me.
Another lesson in this: you can't always tell a real player from a charlatan/faker.
Some guys are believed to be sick players getting pussy, while in reality it is pure image.
Many guys lie, or just act the role that people believe him to be. If he looks like a ladies man, he might act like one, and giving advice to other guys who think he is a player.
Only judge a guy by what you have seen him pull off. Let them show it in field. The field never lies. Or let them show pictures of themselves with girls naked.
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Yes, game is a social skill. There is a learning curve, and consequently a guy with 200 approaches will be more than twice as successful as a guy with only 100 approaches. But in a given month or even year, most of the variation in your success is attributable to approaches.

The building blocks are numbers (approaches), screening, game (attraction), escalation, logistics. Notice that creating attraction by "game" is only one minority component. Finding women who are attracted, and screening out time-wasters is important.

Yeah, most interactions result in failure. But successful seductions occur pretty fast. Otherwise, the woman is wasting your time. Even if she is not intentionally flaking, you need to triage. The main thing that players do different is parallel process. Chumps pine away for one woman until she rejects them. Then they start all over from their emotionally low rejection state.
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master your favorite frame

make her jump through hoops that sucks her into your frame

never explain a bad situation

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(04-17-2013 01:17 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  ABC

Always Be Closing

And one that goes right along with this that I neglected to add;

AAS

Always Assume the Sale

This how one leads. You assume she wants to be with you and just take her for the ride, wherever you are going.

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wingmen are like training wheels... you ever want to ride your bike for real you have to remove them

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