(06-03-2013 01:45 AM)rvlefty Wrote: Another date at 8PM for a beer in Greenbelt. This one is a little bit shy. No job here yet, she moved from Bicol province for work but her parents seem to pay for things. 21, super skinny maybe 95 pounds. Doesn't really have many friends here yet she says. She keeps offering to help pay for drinks (so refreshing, I let her buy a round one time). We got for another drink at another restaurant and chat more. Go for a 3rd drink downstairs next to Havana. She dated an american in Cebu that cheated on her and told her he was 28 but actually 41. She is holding my hand at this point and fascinated at my smooth hands and white skin (girls here tell me I have 'girl hands' because they're so smooth).
Offer to go for drink at home, watch some youtube in bed, lights out, and its over. Manila dry spell over. Amazing body, very sweet and not at all needy (yet). I think as a result of being hurt before is a little hesitant. Good for her. I will probably see her again.
Congratulations on the lay. I have lived in MNL previously for a semester abroad, and I have a lot of experience gaming top talent in the PH.
I hope I don't offend you and ruin it for you -- I know I haven't met this girl yet, but I can show you some red flags on why this girl is absolutely not "high end ." You can use some of my red flags as benchmark in evaluating top talent in the PH:
1. All high end girls in the PH almost exclusively grew up in Manila. The Philippines is very poor, and the developing economy only exists in the capital. There is almost no developed city outside of Manila. High end girls outside Manila are almost impossible to be found. I have seen some, but they almost do not exist.
2. Most high end girls will have no experience dating a foreigner, unless they actually studied abroad.
3. On your other post, you said you received this message from the girl.
"girl u should move on becoz he already does., u know wat, im so into a new guy now, ive met before, but he dont want a gf,. he is so very irresistable, i always wanted 2 c him,sometimes i make time just to be wd him., and it feel so good and comfortable just sitting together, i really enjoying hs company., but i don't know his feelings.. my gosh,its been a long time since i havent feel like this way.,haha,its funny coz sometimes i want to tell.. him that he's so very handsome,but im shy,.anyway i think , the best place to go is bora on my bday (will stay at alta vista de boracay) for a week, what do u think?"
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If I understood your story correctly, it is the Bicol girl that sent you this text message, right? Look, this chick's English is extremely horrible. Top level talents will speak better than this. Girls who speak English like this are probably not used to speaking English in the first place, and therefore most likely do not speak English regularly with their friends. This message was intentionally sent to you. That is why it is written in English. She does not speak English with her friends, and if she ever did, it will be mixed with Filipino.
Honestly, if you can't tell between a high end and a low end girl, just go for the low end girl. It is much easier. If looks are equal, it isn't worth the effort to game high end girls.
Society girls are the same everywhere. If you compare a hot society Ivy League 8.5 in New York vs a hot 8.5 ranch girl in Wyoming who is undereducated and uncultured, they are just both 8.5s. The Wyoming girl will be easier.
EDIT: I'll add some more info. I'll mix high end Filipino game with society game.
The other posters here are right when they say Filipino locals can immediately identify a girl from the slums when you bring them in the nicer areas in town. Almost always immediately by eye, but 100% accurately with 3-5 qualifying questions. This goes the same in all 3rd world countries, and even with society girls in the west. It will be easy for Romney's kid to figure out whether you are in the same circle as him within 2 minutes of talking to you. This is typical society shit.
This can ruin you easily, especially in third world countries, because people there always disassociate themselves with the lower classes. There is a huge huge barrier between high end and low society. There is almost no middle class. If a high end girl sees you chatting up poorgirl7.5 in a bar, she will turn you down if you come to her next. She would not want to be in the same level as the poor chick you just tried to game. It will ruin her reputation if her friends see her. Remember, this is a small town and a small social circle. She will protect her reputation first.
Here are some qualifiers that should work in the Philippines:
1. Ask her where she went to school, and remember the names of the top universities in Manila. All the top talent in Manila will come from those schools. So easy to qualify this way. They have a different school system than we do here in the US. In the Philippines, you absolutely need money to get into a top university. Girls from the slums don't make it to these schools. Basically, you can just say, "I heard school X is good, I am thinking of taking a class there in sociology. What do you think?" All my local friends say this is the best way to qualify people.
2. Ask her where she has traveled. High end girls are more cultured and better traveled. This may sound silly, but ignore inter-SEA or Asian vacations. You can judge a high end girl if she is able to get a US or a Schengen visa.
3. Ask her what her parents do. Business owners usually are the norm. Professionals are decently paid. But take note: a guy selling flowers on the street is also a business owner.
4. Watch her English. High end girls in the Philippines will speak English really well. Some of the girls I was banging took the SATs. They will spell their text out too. Like they will say "You" instead of "U". They will know the difference between there vs their.
5. I don't know how to do this well, but most girls I know can tell cheap make up from a really good one. You can also how to tell cheap clothing and fake Louis Vuitton bags. Chicks will spot this quickly. In the US, upper and middle class girls shop at stores like Gap and Banana Rep, so it is quite hard to distinguish. In poor countries, the poor girls never make it there. They buy their shit at thrifty stores. Upper classities will get to go to Mango at least. Very easy to spot in my opinon.
6. High end girls will not take the cab, much less the train. They will have drivers or drive at least a decent looking Toyota/Honda for themselves.
7. A big big red flag is experience in dating foreign men. If she has experience, she may be one of those low quality girls they talk about in RVF who have accounts online, bouncing from one foreigner to another. If she has, it may still be OK. Ask her how they met, what he did, etc.
Personally, I used to be so big in society game, especially in my early 20s. Now I have gone out of that bubble. However, I still want girls who are both feminine and intellectual. I can't stand dumb girls for too long.
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