(04-20-2013 04:45 PM)A CLizzy Wrote:  They are saying it was Staged.

Who's saying it?

(04-20-2013 05:49 PM)MattC Wrote:  Really? I mean come on, really?!

Matt it sounds completely ridiculous but they seem to have a bit of a case.

(04-20-2013 06:11 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  Who's saying it?

Some Alex Jones guy , who almost blew himself up in a debate with Piers Morgan last month.

If the FBI questioned Tamerlan in 2011 (and I assume monitored him from then on), how was he able to plan and carry out an attack without being thwarted? Either the FBI are completely and utterly incompetent, or this is some fishy business.

Why would the younger brother be out partying that night? I don't buy that they believed they would get away, utter bollocks. My theory is that they had absolutely no clue what was happening, and only began to flee when they saw their faces all over the news.

If they had nothing to do with it how'd they get the explosives/weapons used in the shootout with the cops?

The only conspiracy I've heard so far that makes sense to me is an entrapment case gone wrong.

(04-20-2013 06:34 PM)_GQ_ Wrote:  If the FBI questioned Tamerlan in 2011 (and I assume monitored him from then on), how was he able to plan and carry out an attack without being thwarted? Either the FBI are completely and utterly incompetent, or this is some fishy business.

Why would the younger brother be out partying that night? I don't buy that they believed they would get away, utter bollocks. My theory is that they had absolutely no clue what was happening, and only began to flee when they saw their faces all over the news.

That's all I am saying. It all sounds ridiculously fishy, considering the family were already associated with the FBI. All their direct relatives seem genuinely shocked about the incident.

I'm just opening my mind to the possibility that there may be more to the Boston Bombing than meets the eye.

It's possible that the brothers' were radicalized pawns who knew what they were getting themselves into. Making them easy targets to use, but just as guilty as the King for carrying out the acts.

We will find out the truth anyway , if the kid survives and squeals.

No doubt justice will be served to the pawns ! (one already dead)

BUT if there are other members who were involved behind the scenes, then they need to be exposed.

(04-20-2013 06:39 PM)Ensam Wrote:  If they had nothing to do with it how'd they get the explosives/weapons used in the shootout with the cops?

Do you have any proof that they had explosives or weapons? As a matter of fact, is there even any proof of a shoot out at all?

Surely in this day an age someone would have filmed a portion of the shoot out with a cell phone.

All of this reminds me of the plot to Shooter with Mark Wahlberg.

Edit: Do we have any 9/11 conspiracy theory threads?

(04-20-2013 06:47 PM)_GQ_ Wrote:  

(04-20-2013 06:39 PM)Ensam Wrote:  If they had nothing to do with it how'd they get the explosives/weapons used in the shootout with the cops?

Do you have any proof that they had explosives or weapons? As a matter of fact, is there even any proof of a shoot out at all?

Surely in this day an age someone would have filmed a portion of the shoot out with a cell phone.

Stuff like this starts to make me angry so I'm going to leave the thread. I have friends who live in the neighborhood the shootout happened in. I suppose you could say that was all staged too but this shit was very real for the people I know who were close by.

(04-20-2013 06:48 PM)_GQ_ Wrote:  All of this reminds me of the plot to Shooter with Mark Wahlberg.

Edit: Do we have any 9/11 conspiracy theory threads?

9/11 was staged but I don't think people will ever accept that even if a video showing indefinite proof was thrown in front of them.

the fact that building collapsed 20 floors instantaneously is impossible without a bomb.

Stop posting infowars information as a credible source. That video is dumb is fuck. There is absolutely 0 proof in any of this. Just speculation. Start a separate thread for that garbage so we can have intelligent conversation about what's going on so we don't have to keep reading conspiracy theory arguments.

(04-20-2013 07:16 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  Stop posting infowars information as a credible source. That video is dumb is fuck. There is absolutely 0 proof in any of this. Just speculation. Start a separate thread for that garbage so we can have intelligent conversation about what's going on so we don't have to keep reading conspiracy theory arguments.

This thread is about talking about anything about the bombing.

That video is relevant, whether or not you agree with it.

At least there is only 1 thread instead of multiple different ones.

Relax.

(04-20-2013 07:16 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  Stop posting infowars information as a credible source. That video is dumb is fuck. There is absolutely 0 proof in any of this. Just speculation. Start a separate thread for that garbage so we can have intelligent conversation about what's going on so we don't have to keep reading conspiracy theory arguments.

We already know the conspiracy theory arguments are not gonna go away. As we discussed before in this thread, every event these days is a conspiracy and it will be like that forever now because it has become big business.

I would have maybe listened to the theories if the bombers were from some Middle Eastern nation which the US could have invaded but these brothers are from Chechnya and there is no way the US is going to take any action against Russia.

I watched a couple of the videos posted in this thread and they are purely speculative with 0 evidence (especially the fake prosthetics one).

Why is there no footage of the Tsarnaev's planting the backpacks?

(04-20-2013 06:47 PM)_GQ_ Wrote:  

(04-20-2013 06:39 PM)Ensam Wrote:  If they had nothing to do with it how'd they get the explosives/weapons used in the shootout with the cops?

Do you have any proof that they had explosives or weapons? As a matter of fact, is there even any proof of a shoot out at all?

Surely in this day an age someone would have filmed a portion of the shoot out with a cell phone.

a clip of the last shoot out was posted on reddit last night.

i think the attacks were legit but i also suspect "they" may have let it happen to suit their CISPA agenda which was used ( the attack) as a reason to push it through even though it had nothing to do with cyber terrorism.

those two military dudes spotted in the crowdsources pics ( the ones in matching shoes and pants) taken just before the bombs went off were 20 meters from where one of the bombs were planted and just out of its blast radius, yet minutes before it went off they decided to move elsewhere....they must be some of the luckiest guys on the planet.

I now this might be a little off topic but I think its fits the basic theme here of discussing Islam and various fundamentalist offshoots.

Is Islam(not necessarily fundamentalist) the most Alpha of the three Abrahamic Religion?

Because it absolutely seems like it is to me regarding gender roles, gender identity, and relationship dynamics.

As a White American of Protestant and Catholic background, Islam just fascinates me, and seems far more in line with the "red pill" than Modern Christianity.

(04-20-2013 07:59 PM)Galnuc69 Wrote:  I now this might be a little off topic but I think its fits the basic theme here of discussing Islam and various fundamentalist offshoots.

Is Islam(not necessarily fundamentalist) the most Alpha of the three Abrahamic Religion?

Because it absolutely seems like it is to me regarding gender roles, gender identity, and relationship dynamics.

As a White American of Protestant and Catholic background, Islam just fascinates me, and seems far more in line with the "red pill" than Modern Christianity.

Yes, Islam is the most Alpha in the sense that they practice the teachings of a book that is 1000's of years old without really adapting to today's current society. In those days of course, It was a Male dominated environment whereby females were expected to stay at home, cook, clean, raise children and be fucked, and the men would provide for their family.

The main difference between a Muslim Man and a player in this day and age is the fact that Muslim Men are obliged to marry before they can bang but are allowed to marry up to 4 wives(Polygamy) if i'm not mistaken. However they are expected to treat each wife equally with regards to possessions and love. this is obviously very hard to do in a western society.

What I noticed also is that they seem to take care of their own for the most part.

You have really strong connections within the community and everyone helps each other out. It's a lot stronger than Catholic communities IMO.

(04-20-2013 08:17 PM)NY Digital Wrote:  What I noticed also is that they seem to take care of their own for the most part.

You have really strong connections within the community and everyone helps each other out. It's a lot stronger than Catholic communities IMO.

Yeh I noticed this too when I was living in that environment. There is a strong sense of brotherhood, almost like a gang at times. Because obviously when you are part of a community, that seems to be hated by the vast majority. There is a sense of ' We are all on the same wavelength and we must stay strong.'

Hard to explain, you have to physically experience it in order to feel the vibe.

(04-20-2013 06:16 PM)A CLizzy Wrote:  

(04-20-2013 05:49 PM)MattC Wrote:  Really? I mean come on, really?!

Matt it sounds completely ridiculous but they seem to have a bit of a case.

(04-20-2013 06:11 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  Who's saying it?

Some Alex Jones guy , who almost blew himself up in a debate with Piers Morgan last month.

The whole thing does seem a bit fishy, but that video about the guy who had his legs blown off being staged is one of the biggest loads of shite I've ever seen. Madness. He was an "amputee actor" and hand signals represent telling guys to come in and take photos? Nope, not having that one bit.

(04-20-2013 07:54 PM)loki Wrote:  

(04-20-2013 06:47 PM)_GQ_ Wrote:  

(04-20-2013 06:39 PM)Ensam Wrote:  If they had nothing to do with it how'd they get the explosives/weapons used in the shootout with the cops?

Do you have any proof that they had explosives or weapons? As a matter of fact, is there even any proof of a shoot out at all?

Surely in this day an age someone would have filmed a portion of the shoot out with a cell phone.

a clip of the last shoot out was posted on reddit last night.

i think the attacks were legit but i also suspect "they" may have let it happen to suit their CISPA agenda which was used ( the attack) as a reason to push it through even though it had nothing to do with cyber terrorism.

those two military dudes spotted in the crowdsources pics ( the ones in matching shoes and pants) taken just before the bombs went off were 20 meters from where one of the bombs were planted and just out of its blast radius, yet minutes before it went off they decided to move elsewhere....they must be some of the luckiest guys on the planet.

I think these guys were involved with the Feds. I think they were originally going to use the white patsy(remember when CNN announced the arrest of a White Male), and go the White Nationalist/Tea Party Angle, but when that got foiled(when the alternative media showed all these paramilitary types surrounding the explosion area just prior to the blast), they had to pin it on the actual guys who did it(the Chechens).

This fits in line with the fact these guys were visited by the FBI in 2011 and the statement by their mother that the older one worked with, not against the FBI.

I don't think it is that far fetched for the FBI to use terrorism to promote an agenda. I mean, our Government support Chechen terrorists vs the Russians, so it is not as though our government has qualms with killing civies.

I mean I am not even a 9/11 Truther(never researched it much), or ever been much into the "conspiracy theories". But there are so many holes in the ever changing "official story", it is hard to believe anyone believes it. I even got my die in the wool Pro US GOV good old republican mother to admit the official story is bullshit, and at the very least the FBI is criminally negligent and at the worst complicit.

(04-08-2015 04:11 PM)Samseau Wrote:  



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Quote:43 SECONDS TO 47 SECONDS. You see him walk up with the bag stand next to the tree look down and you can see him drop the bag. No more bag on shoulder. Bomb goes off EXACTLY in the spot he was standing. Im really confused how this seems so hard for people to see. 43 SECONDS WHITE BACK PACK 46 SECONDS HE LOOKS DOWN 47 SECONDS YOU SEE HIS SHOULDER DROP AND HIM DROP THE BAG. ROCKET SCIENCE! How is this even up for debate when he admits it? Fucking people..... World is over populated with shit. 

Ya, I have seen that video before. I thought there might have been a different video I hadn't seen yet.

He's a kid, I'm sure he doesn't give a shit about 72 virgins and fears death like a mother fucker.

I'll bet he's shitting bricks hoping he doesn't get put down.

A simple .45 ACP to his cranium would solve everything.

My punishment: Cut his balls off, let him bleed out, then set him on fire while still alive. Have pigs eat the remains, then parachute the pigs into Chechnya.

From what I understand Mass does not have the death penalty but these are federal crimes. Each juror was screened on their openness to the death penalty. However, it requires unanimous agreement. I bet one decides against it. The cynic in me says they will do it so they can write a book about how hard it was to decide, etc.

Apparently the prison if he doesn't get the death penalty, he will get sent to Supermax which is considered a clean version of hell.

So the jury has decided on the penalty be it life in prison or death.

For the lawyers out there, would the prosecutor have been allowed to hold back some crimes in case the first trial had not gone well? I am not sure if I articulated that well. Apparently, he is charged with 17 crimes. Could there be more that the prosecutor is holding on to?

Maybe the prosecutor thinks the kid needs to be executed and if he doesn't get that decision, he goes back for more in another trial with a different jury.

I know you are not allowed to be tried for the same crime twice. But, hypothetically, let's say the prosecutor left off the death of one person, then technically he has not been tried for that crime, right?

Just curious.

Thanks.

Edit: I imagine being sentenced to a SuperMax prison would be a lifetime of hell considering how young he is. But some people are very blood lusting for justice and only his death would be acceptable. But Supermax sounds like torture. And he has to wait a long time for his 72 virgins.