Post: #26

(09-23-2011 01:36 PM)Mighty Mouse Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 11:14 AM)houston Wrote:  I'd actually be interested in checking out local shit...while I'm high as hell lol. The girls are around 6'1?? I'm 5'8 but won't stay home just because I'm going to be shorter than everyone.

6ft1 is average FOR GUYS in the Netherlands (the young generation).

The Dutch are the tallest people in the world by country. They average height should be higher if we didn't have a massive import of Arabs (most) and Africans ( not all ) in our country which are way shorter than us.

The average height would be 6.1 ( i'm 6.2) for guys not for girls.

http://www.wisegeek.com/which-country-ha...people.htm

The reason we are so tall is because we eat and drink loads of dairy. Cheese,yoghurt and lots of milk every day.

Post: #27

(10-12-2011 02:12 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 07:24 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Most dutch girls I've met abroad have been rather husky and big boned.

Even the tall and slim ones are big boned / they have curves. Their far from petite. Big breasts though.

Man, ain't that the truth.

Post: #28

I'm mates with a Dutch guy whose 6 ft 9, tall in Holland = giant everywhere else.

Post: #29

(10-14-2011 08:31 AM)P Dog Wrote:  I'm mates with a Dutch guy whose 6 ft 9, tall in Holland = giant everywhere else.

A 6ft9 guy is a giant even in Holland. You see far more guys here in the 180-190 range than in the 190-200 range. Guys significantly taller than 200cm are seldom here, just like anywhere else in the world.

Post: #30

(10-14-2011 09:24 AM)Mighty Mouse Wrote:  

(10-14-2011 08:31 AM)P Dog Wrote:  I'm mates with a Dutch guy whose 6 ft 9, tall in Holland = giant everywhere else.

A 6ft9 guy is a giant even in Holland. You see far more guys here in the 180-190 range than in the 190-200 range. Guys significantly taller than 200cm are seldom here, just like anywhere else in the world.

The Danes and North-west germans are nearly as tall as the dutch.

and most guys(18-30) in Holland are between 180-190 cm, but to be considered really tall u need to be above the 195 cm range,190-194 cm isnt considered really tall in the netherlands, just above average unlike in the rest of northern europe where being 190 and above is considered already quite tall. 205 cm (6ft9) is huge everywhere you go although It will be easier to meet somebody else of sharing your similar height (at 6'9) than anywhere else in the world.

Post: #31

(10-12-2011 12:45 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  6ft1 is average FOR GUYS in the Netherlands (the young generation).

When tallness is common is it still a big factor with women like it seems in the US? Or does it become a common commodity, no longer a central thing? I'm 5'9" (175) and like Dutch girls, but wonder if it's "short" there.

Maybe it's the opposite-- it RAISES the bar, so you need to be 6'3" to be "good-looking."

Post: #32

Hey guys, I am having a couple of dutch girls on exchange at the uni, staying in the dorms. They are are with a couple of their male friends, all from Rotterdam. One is pretty outspoken while the other is quite shy. A 6.5 for both probly. What is the best game to run?

Am hearing that the dutch girls are not into SNL although they are approachable. How easily do they put out and are they into mind games etc?

Thanks.

Post: #33

(02-12-2016 09:25 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  Hey guys, I am having a couple of dutch girls on exchange at the uni, staying in the dorms. They are are with a couple of their male friends, all from Rotterdam. One is pretty outspoken while the other is quite shy. A 6.5 for both probly. What is the best game to run?

Am hearing that the dutch girls are not into SNL although they are approachable. How easily do they put out and are they into mind games etc?

Thanks.

Not a great sample size, but I bedded a Dutch girl less than hour after meeting her at a hotel pool. Her friends seemed like they would be pretty easy as well, and had no problem with letting her go off with a stranger. I've always thought Dutch girls are open books and have a pretty casual attitude towards sex. Being exchange students, that also works in your favor as they'll want an Aussie flag eventually.

Post: #34

(02-13-2016 02:06 AM)Adrenaline Wrote:  Not a great sample size, but I bedded a Dutch girl less than hour after meeting her at a hotel pool. Her friends seemed like they would be pretty easy as well, and had no problem with letting her go off with a stranger. I've always thought Dutch girls are open books and have a pretty casual attitude towards sex. Being exchange students, that also works in your favor as they'll want an Aussie flag eventually.

This is the key sentence right here: as we know, the behavior of all girls once they're away from their native countries and amongst mostly strangers is very different from their behavior when they're around their social circle at home.

Approach-based game is basically non-existent in the Netherlands (at least among the native Dutchies), and from my experience most of the action tends to happen in social-circle based scenarios involving a lot of drinking.

Here we have an interesting situation where it seems that the girl is between two worlds: she's in a foreign country, yet she has her Dutch group around her.

Your priority should be to isolate her from her social circle, get her out with you, away from her friends. Making progress will be a LOT easier if she knows that her friends won't be around to judge her actions, which I think is why Dutch girls have a reputation for being slower to game. You're a local, so just work that angle. After you've shown her (in whatever social situation) that you're a cool guy, steer the conversation towards some of the cool things to do in the city, and show that you know a lot of cool spots and things to do that she wouldn't know. I would say keep your vibe chill, fun, not aggressively sexual, and then see how the interaction goes. If it goes well, and you can see that she's interested in exploring your city from your conversation, see if you can set up a date. I guess that drinks would be okay, but I think that a more creative option that shows your knowledge of the city would be better: maybe there's a great spot on the beach that not many people know about, or pretty much anything that's somewhat unique to Australia, that she couldn't get in the Netherlands.

Can't say much about playing games and so on- that's up to you to get a sense for, as it really varies a lot from girl to girl. In any case, escalation for Dutch girls is guaranteed to be a LOT easier once they're isolated from the social circle.

Post: #35

Why is approach based game non-existent in the Netherlands? Are the girls not receptive? Or is it just that the men don't approach? Would it be fruitful to cold approach Dutch girls you think?

Post: #36

(02-12-2016 09:25 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  Hey guys, I am having a couple of dutch girls on exchange at the uni, staying in the dorms. They are are with a couple of their male friends, all from Rotterdam. One is pretty outspoken while the other is quite shy. A 6.5 for both probly. What is the best game to run?

Am hearing that the dutch girls are not into SNL although they are approachable. How easily do they put out and are they into mind games etc?

Thanks.

Dutch girls in general are easy in The Netherlands, unless you're a Muslim. You can be a very nice and goodlooking Muslim dude, but Muslims have a very bad reputation when it comes to women and I heard that even hookers and escorts don't want Muslim customers.

But anyway, I heard from friends who live abroad that Dutch girls are total sluts outside The Netherlands. Don't say to a Dutch girl that you know people from here, because then she will be reticent to have sex. Probably because she wants to keep her slutty behaviour secret.

A Swedish guy I knew studied in Rotterdam too and he showed me messages where female students begged to suck his dick and to get fucked by him. He was goodlooking and the fact that he stayed here for only 3 months probably played a role too. Girls are very easy if it has zero consequences for their reputation.

Post: #37

Born and raised in Amsterdam here. Moroccan, 6'2 and "good looking'.

Naah son..
Attractive Muslims/Moroccans can get dutch ass if they're willing to play "I'm not your typical Moroccan". Just groom, be well spoken, social, funny, tall and attractive. Just don't fit the stereotype. Don't be Islamic. Don't be ghetto. Be tall, dark and handsome.

I can tell you a lot stories about me getting looks at these University/Zuidas functions. Where I'd get opened by 7's or me opening 8's and leaving with their phone number. Just be intressting and drink a little.
I'm not that impressed by blondes, so to me its like whatever. But I know some Moroccans who only bang blonde dutch girls without paying.

Average Muslims/Moroccans are fucked though. They should focus on tokkies, ghetto girls, tourists and their own. Never met an average mocro who was pulling girls "out of his league" (I hate that term).

Post: #38

When you approach attractive dutch girls. You should game them indirectly. University campuses are my bread butter when I want to bang a blonde. Bitch shields are a little bit lower, dutch students (your competition) rarely approach and sometimes they'll be receiptive to nice guy game.

Post: #39

Nice to know that Dutch girls are not too uptight. Thing is I am in a watsapp group with her friends and mine. Should I message or call her separately? Not sure if she will freak out as she is always with her friends.

Post: #40

Since this thread got diverted off on the height issue before getting back to ground, I thought I'd and some science to the issue of height and sexual attraction - knowledge to complement action, I hope.

In January, an item was published. The key bit

Quote:"Our genes drive our attraction for partners of similar height to ours, i.e. tall people pair with tall people," said lead researcher Albert Tenesa. "We found that 89 percent of the genetic variation affecting individual preferences for height and one's own height are shared, indicating that there's an innate preference for partners of similar height."
_ _ _

According to the researchers, within this subset of data, the genotype of an individual could be used to predict their partners' height with 13 percent accuracy. That might not sound like much, but once certain heritability factors were accounted for, [similar heights] actually [accounted for] 64 percent of the theoretical maximum.

If so, then we become self-conscious about the challenge of women who are taller than us. Hence, the diversion into the matter of the Dutch people being the tallest in Europe on page 1, and related body and facial beauty considerations.

SOURCE
http://www.sciencealert.com/our-genes-di...tudy-finds

But, the report mentions a study from Korea showing an opposite shorter-term effect: females being happier if a man is much taller than they are - but then the effect fades over the years.

Go get 'em, men!

Post: #41

(02-15-2016 10:00 AM)Orson Wrote:  Since this thread got diverted off on the height issue before getting back to ground, I thought I'd and some science to the issue of height and sexual attraction - knowledge to complement action, I hope.

In January, an item was published. The key bit

Quote:"Our genes drive our attraction for partners of similar height to ours, i.e. tall people pair with tall people," said lead researcher Albert Tenesa. "We found that 89 percent of the genetic variation affecting individual preferences for height and one's own height are shared, indicating that there's an innate preference for partners of similar height."
_ _ _

According to the researchers, within this subset of data, the genotype of an individual could be used to predict their partners' height with 13 percent accuracy. That might not sound like much, but once certain heritability factors were accounted for, [similar heights] actually [accounted for] 64 percent of the theoretical maximum.

If so, then we become self-conscious about the challenge of women who are taller than us. Hence, the diversion into the matter of the Dutch people being the tallest in Europe on page 1, and related body and facial beauty considerations.

SOURCE
http://www.sciencealert.com/our-genes-di...tudy-finds

But, the report mentions a study from Korea showing an opposite shorter-term effect: females being happier if a man is much taller than they are - but then the effect fades over the years.

Go get 'em, men!

Another study particular about the Netherlands:

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/4560/Gezond/artic...-dat.dhtml

Conclusion:

The Dutch are so tall because of natural selection.

In other words: women find height more important in The Netherlands than women find height important anywhere else in the world.

Post: #42

This thread could easily be renamed to "The Netherlands and height issues thread".
Although height is probably more important here than in other countries, I don't believe this is the main problem.

I am tall 1.93 m or 6.3. Here in Holland if I look around in the crowd I don't see many heads sticking out higher than mine. But still it might be the hardest country I've ever been to.
Girls are just generally cold. It seems they are friendly just to be polite, but there seems to be no connection.

My last trip was to Ukraine, and I literally had a girl approach me and say I look like a prince and now this? I have not changed a bit, must be something else

Maybe they are just generally tired of foreigners? I would like to find a key to their hearts (pussies)

Post: #43

Gonna be meeting up with Vinny in Utrecht friday or saturday. If you wanna tag along PM me. Anyone with tips regarding Utrecht, please do share.

Post: #44

I'll most likely be there with Vinny on Saturday. Maybe Friday if my date flakes on me here.

Post: #45

I am expecting you guys. First 2 days rolling solo.
It is getting busier every night.

Post: #46

Curious as what you meant by this? Muslim part




Any tips on the culture or picking up girls there?

Oh, and would there be any need to know any Dutch, or does everyone speak English fluently anyway?
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They are very open, girls are sexually active when they enter High School. You would have no trouble finding a 18 year old (as long as you're not Muslim.)

Post: #47

(02-16-2016 03:26 AM)Vinny Wrote:  This thread could easily be renamed to "The Netherlands and height issues thread".
Although height is probably more important here than in other countries, I don't believe this is the main problem.

I am tall 1.93 m or 6.3. Here in Holland if I look around in the crowd I don't see many heads sticking out higher than mine. But still it might be the hardest country I've ever been to.
Girls are just generally cold. It seems they are friendly just to be polite, but there seems to be no connection.

My last trip was to Ukraine, and I literally had a girl approach me and say I look like a prince and now this? I have not changed a bit, must be something else

Maybe they are just generally tired of foreigners? I would like to find a key to their hearts (pussies)

True fucking that, I think that The Randstad is one of the toughest places to pull a lot of tail.

Because:
-Dutch people/girls are generally cold.

-A lot of Feminism

-There is no real club scene in The Netherlands.

-In (the big) cities you won't stand out because The Netherlands is very multi cultural.

- Girls tend to be in serious relationships at a young age.

- Dutch men are generally attractive, dress well and are tall.

- The male minorities might be kinda ghetto, but a lot of them dress well, are tall and come from countries where the men tend to be attractive (Italy, Morocco, Turkey, Suriname, The Antilles).

- Women favor men with beta male traits.



Your best bet in The Netherlands is to go to University campuses and places like a park. The best place in the netherlands would be most definatly be Amsterdam ( A lot of students and tourists come here) and the province of Noord Brabant ( 3 university towns, people are more social, it got somewhat a drinking culture, not alot of tourist or expats, a lot of blonde women).

Post: #48

Don't believe that bullshit, Muslim men (Moroccans, Turks) have most definitely a bad rep in The Netherlands, but generally dutch girls are liberal as they come and don't if the guy plays his cards well.

Most people speak English, it varies from broken to fluent. Learning dutch is unnecessary. But learn a couple words for some banter. Since there is alot of feminism in Holland, keep in mind to have a liberal point of view....

You'll need to:
Game indirect,
or
Social circle game.

(02-26-2016 06:52 PM)chyamor Wrote:  Curious as what you meant by this? Muslim part




Any tips on the culture or picking up girls there?

Oh, and would there be any need to know any Dutch, or does everyone speak English fluently anyway?

They are very open, girls are sexually active when they enter High School. You would have no trouble finding a 18 year old (as long as you're not Muslim.)
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Post: #49

As a Dutch guy, I have to say that Dutch women are somewhat attractive, however, If I had to choose between a foreign girl or a Dutch girl I would definitely go for the foreigner.

Average Dutch women are like 175cm and prefer men with beards. So if you are 165cm like me I wish you good luck since they prefer tall guys Also, I have to state that they lack femininity and don't take the effort to dress well.

If you want to have a good experience I would suggest Amsterdam, cause it has everything you need. It is like a Pick-Up Paradise, to be honest lots of opportunity for Daygame and the city has also the best nightlife of the country. Enough bars/clubs to choose from.

Rotterdam has the 2nd best Nightlife
I call this the ''black'' city because the majority are South American/Cape Verde/African. The girls from this city are more on the rough side and really prefer masculine attitude and it's like nice guys are not welcome here.

Daygame wise this is a pretty good city, same goes for nightlife. And also if you are a South American/Latin or whatsoever then this is your city since there are a lot of girls who favour this.

The Hague is the city where the government is situated. A decent city for travelers to visit, however, I strongly suggest not to pick this city if you want to raise your flags. However, if you still plan to visit, then go to Millers(Free entrance).

If any of you are planning to visit the Netherlands, then I would strongly suggest, cause even if you would be disappointed by the appearance of the Dutch girls there are a lot of foreigners who settle in Amsterdam and it is also packed with tourists from all over the world.

Oh and also, if you like weed then Amsterdam will be basically heaven for you.

Post: #50

For all those coming to the Netherlands looking for Dutch girls I'd advice you to go to secondary cities like:

Groningen (many students)
Arnhem
Nijmegen (this might be a good place for Arab guys because of the extremely high percentage of leftist "let's embrace diversity" chicks)
Tilburg
den Bosch
Zwolle (out of these cities this is where I see the highest percentage of the typical 175 cm (5"9) tall blue eyed girls).