Post: #301

Am I the only one doing in this in my home city?

Post: #302

(04-30-2013 09:11 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  When did you guys start doing this? 30/40? Just looking for a range.

This pretty much kills any reason to spend a lot of money on girls. Great insights here.

I'm 29.

(04-30-2013 12:21 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  These girls are better looking than a $200 pro

These girls do not kick you out after an hour.

These girls have not had thousands of cocks in them.

These girls are often fun and personable.

These girls will spend an entire evening or weekend with you for no more expense than a girlfriend.

Need I say more?

I'm thinking the broke guys that can't even afford a 2 dollar whore are the ones hating...

Agree 100%. These girls are much higher quality than legit hookers, at least in the states. If you live in EE, the quality of these girls is about the same as what you'd find in a brothel over there.

Cost per notch ended up being around $200 for me if you include the hotel room in my CPN, and I have expensive tastes. I could have gotten away with cheaper dates. The fact that I get my hotel room paid for and I get a per diem when I travel means the effective CPN for me was closer to $30-40. You can't beat that with a stick.

Post: #303

Why the hell did I spend multiple years getting good at game. That is now the question I have to ask myself. Going to do this, have a multi-city trip coming up soon.

If this works... Spending more than $100 on a girl seems unreasonable now. May as well use the $200 set up and get quality if you need to pay for a hotel.

(04-30-2013 02:17 PM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  

(04-30-2013 09:11 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  When did you guys start doing this? 30/40? Just looking for a range.

This pretty much kills any reason to spend a lot of money on girls. Great insights here.

I'm 29.

(04-30-2013 12:21 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  These girls are better looking than a $200 pro

These girls do not kick you out after an hour.

These girls have not had thousands of cocks in them.

These girls are often fun and personable.

These girls will spend an entire evening or weekend with you for no more expense than a girlfriend.

Need I say more?

I'm thinking the broke guys that can't even afford a 2 dollar whore are the ones hating...

Agree 100%. These girls are much higher quality than legit hookers, at least in the states. If you live in EE, the quality of these girls is about the same as what you'd find in a brothel over there.

Cost per notch ended up being around $200 for me if you include the hotel room in my CPN, and I have expensive tastes. I could have gotten away with cheaper dates. The fact that I get my hotel room paid for and I get a per diem when I travel means the effective CPN for me was closer to $30-40. You can't beat that with a stick.

Post: #304

This has come to the point where I was there were private sections of the forum...

Post: #305

(04-29-2013 04:39 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  Maybe G needs someone to spot him some ginkos for the entrance fee...

Ginkgo Biloba?

In all seriousness, I think this is perfect for a guy with your scene; traveling to city to city on the companies dime.

There was a time when this would have been perfect for me too, I used to stay in a lot of Ritz Carltons.

My main hang up is putting a picture of myself on the internet.

I might consider this if I just moved to a city and had zero pipe. But I have been in a city for 7 months now and my pipe is overstuffed.

Don't get me wrong, this is dope Game. Like I said earlier, I set up a dummy account in my city and recognized two girls on the front page of results. They both are pretty fly. I have one of their numbers but never called her. So the quality is there.

Play on.

Post: #306

I agree with Vicious. With the amount of traffic we get here, I feel like the popularity will soon ruin this gold mine.

Post: #307

(04-30-2013 03:22 PM)Pacific Wrote:  With the amount of traffic we get here, I feel like the popularity will soon ruin this gold mine.

Some sugar babies have already found this thread. Here's what one of them wrote about it a week or so ago:

Quote:This is aimed mostly at newcomers or novices in the bowl, but might be of interest to other SBs too:

/thread-21493.html

There are lots of pick-up artists pretending to be rich men, who are using SA (and no doubt other sites, too) for sex.

The above link is for a forum where they discuss their tactics; how to decieve girls into thinking they’re rich, how to get girls to ‘put out’ without being paid, etc etc.

I know it sounds like common sense, but please don’t agree to sleep with anyone unless you have an arrangement / money in your hands.

Hopefully this might help someone out when trying to sort the real potentials from the scammers.

Post: #308

The sugar babies have an Online Blacklist, too. You guys using SA to score can check their database to see if your SA profiles have been blacklisted.

Post: #309

(04-30-2013 03:22 PM)Pacific Wrote:  I agree with Vicious. With the amount of traffic we get here, I feel like the popularity will soon ruin this gold mine.

Yesterday I was telling another member I kinda wish I had never said anything about my experience with SA and perhaps this thread would have died a quick death.

Oh well, I don't think it will really make much difference though as new girls on coming on the site daily.

Post: #310

(04-30-2013 03:50 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  Yesterday I was telling another member I kinda wish I had never said anything about my experience with SA and perhaps this thread would have died a quick death.

Hotwheels, this "secret escort" has found this thread and thinks you're a cunt:

Quote:yeah i was really pissed off when i read that. it wasn’t even the whole ‘game’ they kept going on about that really bothered me; it was the way they spoke about women, like i have never seen so much disrespect. especially coming from Hotwheels - I would really love to meet that cunt.

here’s the link for anyone who hasn’t read it:

/thread-21493.html

Post: #311

(04-30-2013 03:32 PM)Icarus Wrote:  I know it sounds like common sense, but please don’t agree to sleep with anyone unless you have an arrangement / money in your hands.

And guess what ladies; If you demand money for sex you are a fucking hooker.

Next.

There are plenty of girls on there looking for a provider BF that enjoy the time they spend with their guys.

Post: #312

(04-30-2013 03:55 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

(04-30-2013 03:50 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  Yesterday I was telling another member I kinda wish I had never said anything about my experience with SA and perhaps this thread would have died a quick death.

Hotwheels, this "secret escort" has found this thread and thinks you're a cunt:

Quote:yeah i was really pissed off when i read that. it wasn’t even the whole ‘game’ they kept going on about that really bothered me; it was the way they spoke about women, like i have never seen so much disrespect. especially coming from Hotwheels - I would really love to meet that cunt.

here’s the link for anyone who hasn’t read it:

/thread-21493.html

Roosh started a thread covering the above article.

Saying that; Fuck that slut.

Hotwheels considers hookers to be lower forms of life

Post: #313

One of the sugar babies' reactions to this thread.

Quote:"The bold.

Honestly, going through the thread made me nauseous and want to remain single forever. Complete SCUM."

For a lot of men, seeing so many girls on sites like SeekingArrangement makes them nauseous and want to remain single forever. Girls who use men for money are SCUM.

At the very least, any girl on SA has lost all girlfriend/wife value and is now good for only sex. Men are just reacting as they should to girls who have revealed themselves to be little more than cum dumpsters.

Post: #314

If I knew more about internet startups I'd fire up a competitor to SA.

I think it's just going to get bigger as women do not know how to deal with people in person, and more and more of them will be needing assistance to get by as their liberal arts degree doesn't translate into a decent paying job.

And the $60 entry fee keeps out the truly cheap bastards.

Post: #315

How would you change this product to make it more differentiated?

That platform is incredibly easy to replicate, 2 day project.

Could do this in a weekend myself. No joke. Don't see a reason to make an exact replica though, first mover advantage = death to branding.

TBH I think the real sell is getting beta males to sign up. Because a rich guy who doesn't know shit will spend money and the girls will continue to sign up in droves. I remember seeing threads here where guys were actually paying for "just a companion". So come up with an angle to he them to sign up (thinking millionaire matchmaker style where the guys are usually losers looking for a "companion") and then profit off the droves of girls signing up.

Kind of like the biggest F-you to beta males ever.

You could also do this yourself pretty easily. Just go get the code up and you're in biz.

A slut's ideal friend is the beta male.

Hell as game gets harder and harder more and more guys who don't get it will be lonely with a lot of money to spend.

(04-30-2013 04:23 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  If I knew more about internet startups I'd fire up a competitor to SA.

I think it's just going to get bigger as women do not know how to deal with people in person, and more and more of them will be needing assistance to get by as their liberal arts degree doesn't translate into a decent paying job.

And the $60 entry fee keeps out the truly cheap bastards.

Post: #316

(04-30-2013 04:23 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  If I knew more about internet startups I'd fire up a competitor to SA.

Mindblowing idea.

If you have someone who can pull it off, I might be able to put some of my partners in touch with some green.

Post: #317

Yea my friend is by no means rich nor can fake being rich. He tells me he can have 5 dates a week off of there easily and does. He awared me of this in December, I'm not sure how long this threads been going, but by no means is he an early adopter. The cats out of the bag... The "college girls" are happy to fuck for whatever they can get he says. Thats why I suspect there must be a large amount of escorts / strippers undercover on there, he insists otherwise. If seekingarrangement existed in Cuba I'd try it out. I am not hating. I think this is essentially the equivalent of shoring but with girls who have taken less dicks obviously. Most of the girls obviously have multiple guys on the go paying them or donating if you prefer that term...is what hes told me. The reason I said they are hookers is because thats what they essentially are. If the vast majority of the girls are willing to fuck a near 70 year old man who gives absolutely no appearance whatsoever that hes rich or even marginally above middle class (hes not) then I think I'd have to classify them as hookers. You guys have managed to make an art of shoring in North America which in and of itself is impressive. Again, maybe hes bullshitting me when he told me just about anyone on the site will go out with him. I have no idea nor have I seen his account or care to.

Your cost goes up significantly though if you are actually paying for the hotel rooms in advance before the date and you are unsure if your going to close. SA was on a national tv show in the US from what I recall and has been in many newspapers.

This has been widely known about for a while now though. It's not something new. The shoring aspect is newer but the site and its context has been around a while. There are already tons of copy catters. look at SugarDaddyDating of all sorts and you'll get dozens of hits. Millionairematch or more towards the long-term game crowd I guess you would say.

Have any younger guys tried this out though? I'm curious how this would work for someone 25 as I assume you'd be more likely to get the money first line as it would seem less legitimate that you truly are rich. It's one thing for a 40 year old Consultant or 35 year old VP to seem legitimate on their. But what about a 25 year old I-Banker for example or a Young Dentist.

Post: #318

I should mention I'm located generally in Canada...we don't have the level of student debt that Americans could fall into nor the level of credit available that could lead to massive debt. So I would think that you'd get more genuine students and girls who fell into debt in America than in Canada. As it's pretty hard to be struggling with debt when tuition is under 10k per year and in many cases well under.

Post: #319

This thread being pinged by the escort community tells me all I need to know. I'm going down low publicly on this topic until some alternate venue pops up. I might drop something on occasion in the lounge thread instead, it's too vast to pop up on any escort radar. Feel free to PM me on the topic if you're reading this weeks/months from now.

RVF is no longer just some fringe community on the outskirts of the web, it's a true force that the opposition is starting to take note of.

Post: #320

Everyone should read this post carefully. I will be doing the same. We already learned many times in the past what happens if you link anything to your true self. TBH when you get older and you have zero interest in a family/relationship this is a great avenue.

Good luck out there guys.

(04-30-2013 06:19 PM)Vicious Wrote:  This thread being pinged by the escort community tells me all I need to know. I'm going down low publicly on this topic until some alternate venue pops up. I might drop something on occasion in the lounge thread instead it's too vast for to pop up on any escort radar. Feel free to PM me on the topic if you're reading this weeks/months form now.

Post: #321

(04-30-2013 06:19 PM)Vicious Wrote:  This thread being pinged by the escort community tells me all I need to know. I'm going down low publicly on this topic until some alternate venue pops up. I might drop something on occasion in the lounge thread instead, it's too vast to pop up on any escort radar. Feel free to PM me on the topic if you're reading this weeks/months form now.

RVF is no longer just some fringe community on the outskirts of the web, it's a true force that the opposition is starting to take note of.

ditto.

Also I posted pictures in this thread earlier. Is there someone who can take those down for me?

Post: #322

I assume you uploaded them as attachments.

First off, as far as I know only registered members can see them. Roosh or Tuth should be able to verify that.

Second, go to your control panel and there should be a link to your uploaded attachments. Go there and you can delete anything you have uploaded.

Post: #323

(04-30-2013 07:12 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  I assume you uploaded them as attachments.

First off, as far as I know only registered members can see them. Roosh or Tuth should be able to verify that.

Second, go to your control panel and there should be a like to your uploaded attachments. Go there and you can delete anything you have uploaded.

neg. embedded links. next time I will be doing attachments though. I blame you and your awesome posts for drawing crazy attention here.

Post: #324

Yer fucked.

Post: #325

(04-30-2013 07:13 PM)cheerfulwish Wrote:  neg. embedded links. next time I will be doing attachments though. I blame you and your awesome posts for drawing crazy attention here.

Go to the post with your pics and hit the Report button on that post (lower right hand side).

Use that report form to write to the RVF moderators asking them to delete your picture links.