Post: #326

Where do u daygame at? Im in the wrong place. Soi 4. I think everygirl is a working girl or ladyboy. I have a great contact here though. The guy is a DJ and runs about 18 bars here. If I decide to stay long term I might have a job. Anyway dude took me to a gogo spot. Told me every single girl is a ladyboy. They were some beautiful men. I have been sober ever since haha.

Probably hit the mall today. I need to look into some suits before i go. U found a tailor yet Fisto? Cant beat a two piece custom made for 100 bucks.

Post: #327

TM,
since you're looking for a tailor, the one I've been using each time is called Prince Taylor right on Soi 4. Small little shop, but they're very good. Have had all my shirts and suits done through them. Service with a smile and quality at a great price.

Initially I was buying all these crappy tshirts from MBK or the stalls on Sukhumvit but once I found those guys, stopped wasting money on those tshirts and been getting custom made fitted dress shirts, specially cotton shirts from them all the time. Check them out.

(03-05-2013 10:09 PM)TexasMade Wrote:  Where do u daygame at? Im in the wrong place. Soi 4. I think everygirl is a working girl or ladyboy. I have a great contact here though. The guy is a DJ and runs about 18 bars here. If I decide to stay long term I might have a job. Anyway dude took me to a gogo spot. Told me every single girl is a ladyboy. They were some beautiful men. I have been sober ever since haha.

Probably hit the mall today. I need to look into some suits before i go. U found a tailor yet Fisto? Cant beat a two piece custom made for 100 bucks.

Post: #328

TM, don't day game on Soi 4 hah. Soi 4 is basically an outdoor whorehouse. Absolutely the dirtiest street in Bangkok, and where most people first end up because they don't know any better. For day game check out MBK. It is connected to the National Stadium BTS on the Silom line. Take the BTS from Nana and transfer to the Silom line at Siam. Very easy to do. Just get off at Siam and walk directly across the platform to the other train which will only be one stop to National Stadium. Then you can walk right to MBK from the platform.

Paragon and Central World are more high end malls to daygame at. Though I think MBK may be easier. You could also try Terminal 21 at Asoke station.

Post: #329

I just smashed my massuse. She couldnt resist haha. Older lady. I wanted to pick her up tonight but she siad she was too busy. I started to played with that old pussy and smashed from there.

Appreciate the tailor connect. I will stop by today.

Yea. Only daygame for me are the servers at the bars. One is going to take me to the mall today. Looking forward to seeing the real talent thai has to offer.

Post: #330

Menace, I don't think that much money would buy their loyalty. I think they just assume the farang is wrong and put up with the situation as is. They would gladly take your money and shrug their shoulders later on.

Post: #331

So Fisto..If you had to do it over would you choose the DR for the long haul? It seemed like the people there liked you.

Post: #332

Right now I still like the Dominican more. Here is still ok but I also don't have a driver that knows everything and can translate etc. I'm glad I came someplace new. I am still really enjoying myself even with the stupid fuckups I've made.

Post: #333

(03-06-2013 08:31 PM)Fisto Wrote:  Right now I still like the Dominican more. Here is still ok but I also don't have a driver that knows everything and can translate etc. I'm glad I came someplace new. I am still really enjoying myself even with the stupid fuckups I've made.

Which is easier?

DR, SEA or Las Vegas?

Can you do a comparison?

Post: #334

Yo Fisto, you know what would be crazy bomb-like cool? To get a hot ladyboy assistant, who would go to clubs with you, open doors for you at clubs, restaurants, shops, wherever you go and where you would not even bother opening chicks in clubs. YOu would just chill out, sitting and simply pointing to any hot chick that strikes your fancy and your assistant would go and bring her over. No need to open any chick this way and this would give not only social proofing but mostly and that's the fun part, be a mega mind fuck to everyone seeing the scene. I had this idea through another site and which I found simply brillant! Now this would make your adventures in BKK to be truly epic and totally worthy of a movie!

I know I certainly will when I return to BKK. LOL

Thoughts?

Post: #335

Gman- I can't say yet, I've pulled every night (when out) here but I also haven't been to RCA or thong lo yet. I might be headed to Singapore in a week or so for about 2 weeks but that will be the extent of my SEA tour. It's definitely easier than Vegas for me but only from a finance perspective since there I have social proof, unlike here when I (eventually) go after the hiso girls.

Which reminds me, the one young hiso girl never texted me back. For the sake of research I even said "we can meet secretly". Nothing. Her friends were total bitches so I think they may have shamed her or she wanted me to actually try and take her home that night and the moment has passed. Got a text today from the one I banged.

VP- that is a very provocative idea. How would you find a suitable one? How much should you pay her? I would totally do that just for the shock value alone!

Post: #336

Fisto you will not want to spend 2 weeks in Singapore when Bangkok is the option. 3 days tops.

I'm sure the rest of the guys here that have been to Singapore will back me up on this. Weigh in everyone.

Post: #337

(03-07-2013 03:15 AM)Fisto Wrote:  Gman- I can't say yet, I've pulled every night (when out) here but I also haven't been to RCA or thong lo yet. I might be headed to Singapore in a week or so for about 2 weeks but that will be the extent of my SEA tour. It's definitely easier than Vegas for me but only from a finance perspective since there I have social proof, unlike here when I (eventually) go after the hiso girls.

Which reminds me, the one young hiso girl never texted me back. For the sake of research I even said "we can meet secretly". Nothing. Her friends were total bitches so I think they may have shamed her or she wanted me to actually try and take her home that night and the moment has passed. Got a text today from the one I banged.

VP- that is a very provocative idea. How would you find a suitable one? How much should you pay her? I would totally do that just for the shock value alone!

No Philippines?

Post: #338

The high end in Singapore is as good as anywhere but will take time to break in. Daygame might be a shortcut if you hit Orchard and the higher end shopping areas. At the medium and low end BKK is way better for a guy without much time. Also Sing is multiples more expensive for everything from eating on up.

If you do come to Sing, don't miss ladies night at Zouk on Weds night. Jam packed at prob 2:1 ratio, above average talent avg. 19-24 years old, good party.

That you've been in BKK as long as you have and haven't been to RCA/TL at all is a total facepalm. Vicious is almost definitely right that 2 weeks in BKK exploring those venues will have a much higher ROI than 2 weeks in Sing.

Post: #339

Double

Post: #340

(03-07-2013 04:25 AM)Fisto Wrote:  I'm getting flown out there because I'm being hired for sparring (expenses paid) . There's a guy fighting in One FC on April 5th. I feel like it would be good to get some solid training in and see a new place. I'm not real worried about RCA. I'll get to it when I get to it.

I'll probably fly straight to the Philippines from there for a couple weeks or more.

Post: #341

Fisto,
I have no idea how much that would cost. You could do it the lazy way and not care about cost and simply talk to a hot ladyboy in soi Nana or something or you could do it a more organized way and run an ad in the local papers. Or even better, have a local thai that you know take care of the whole thing. I believe if done properly, you shouldn't pay more than say 10k Bahts/month for a full time hot lady boy assistant. If the experience goes well, which I have no reasons to believe it wouldn't, you could take it to another level and team up with another guy from the forum who's currently there and hire 2 hot ladyboys to be your assistants and take care of all the menial tasks, like paying bills for you guys in clubs, bars, approaching hot girls in clubs, in the malls etc...
Please do tell us how it goes as I will certainly want to do that too when I get there!

Check this specially the last 2 paragraphs:
http://www.cedonulli.com/ladyboy-personal-assistant/
Awesome site filled with awesome stories!

(03-07-2013 03:15 AM)Fisto Wrote:  VP- that is a very provocative idea. How would you find a suitable one? How much should you pay her? I would totally do that just for the shock value alone!

Post: #342

VP- I notice the guy doesn't seem to follow up on his idea. Or am I missing it?

Also, issues I see: ladyboys aren't allowed in some places, they can't be trusted handling money for covers and bottles, there is too much room for them to maneuver you to someplace other than where you want to go. I feel like this would be a lot like getting a random taxi driver in South America to take you places where you wind up spending a shit load of money for a mediocre time.

I talked to THC about it and we still think it would be fun to do it for a night. The conversation went like this "ok we find a hot ladyboy in soi cowboy and tell her 'we will pay your bar fine and buy you occasional drinks throughout the night, in exchange you must do......everything that we say'" then we both doubled over laughing.

Anyway we went to thong lo (finally) the other night. Rionomad told me about a place called clouds. Also was a place next door that served Belgian beer ridiculously cheap. Triple karmalete was 180 baht. Delirium was about the same.

While smoking shisha I made eye contact with a stunner walking out. I caught her on her way to the valet. She spoke perfect English and I got her number. We've exchanged a few texts about meeting up but that's it.
Met Kdog and Asaxon in soi cowboy and then shored a girl from insanity. Standard. Still hate it.

Popped my knee rolling the other night and it is crazy sore and tender. Only drank 3 beers and got an alright workout in. Leaving for pattaya for a few days tomorrow where I'm hoping not to get too trashed and continue getting fit.

Nothing else of note to report.

Post: #343

Fisto,
yeah you could barfine a hot lady boy but gotta be careful with that. It would be a good experimental thing to do to see how this would work but to be truthful, you do not want a LB from a bar for that task. You want a geniune, non girlie lady boy for ultimate experience and ROI. Best way to proceed would be to let a Thai guy you know to take care of that. There are TONS of LBs all accross BKK. Ask the Thai guy if he knows a hot NON bar LB or if not, have him run an ad in a regular Thai paper. You could do it first on a 1 or 2 week trial basis and if it goes well, make "her" go at a semi permanent month to month basis. This way, you could trust the LB and not be overly concerned about "her" turning any tricks on you and taking off with your cash or worst, other valuables.

Pattaya will be fun, believe you me! It's one gigantic open air circus.

Always made me crack going up and down on Walking Streets and seeing the Arabs, Persians and Indians/Pakis going after the ugly lady boys or transvetites. What's with these guys and their obsession with LBs?

Oh and if there's one thing you or anyone going to Patts (or any beach town in Thailand) MUST remember at all times is to NEVER EVER rent a jet sky there! It's the oldest and best run scam in all of Asia!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsPuoaktoAw

Post: #344

Yeah no worries on the jet ski, but I'm headed to pattaya now. I'll have to put Project: ladyboy assistant on hold.

Post: #345

A little bit late with replying as always, but my part of the party tale..

(02-28-2013 01:38 PM)Fisto Wrote:  More memories of things we had forgotten bubbled to the surface. Like I was doing front handsprings in the children's playground whilst drunk.

Too bad we only had your warm up front handsprings on tape and not that perfect double backflip

I also just remember you did one of those handsprings in a group of break dancers on Kao San road the first night :|

(02-28-2013 01:38 PM)Fisto Wrote:  While there we met 3 girls... the girls we met outside who were definitely NOT pros or semi pros.

I might go as far to say that's an understatement, specifically for my girl. She was definitely out of place in that club, as will be clear from the remainder of my story.

(02-28-2013 01:38 PM)Fisto Wrote:  THC and I should be nominated for Grammy in acting.
I'm going to have to let him tell you the monologue he let out.

As Fisto, I'm also sick of the semi-pro's for the moment so once inside I headed straight to the girls we met outside. This was one of my toughest pulls to date. I actually had to retreat this girl TWICE.

After dancing and talking to her in the club, we start to (lightly) make out and isolate her from her friends and got her to my place but she wouldn't set a FOOT inside my room! I actually had to apply LMR techniques to try make her step in my room... and failed! She ran off back to her friends at the club.

Kinda pissed off about the time wasted, I go back to the club where I find her again with her friends and Fisto. We get the vibe back with Fisto lifting the whale friend and taking some pictures. That fat friend was so happy, she was smiling while pretending she was flying with her arms spread.. hilarious pictures

Now it's clear Fisto's girl is into him and the whale just left so it's about recovering my girl. I decide to try a different strategy.

I start a bit of a monologue about meeting the wrong Thai people and how I don't like to be labeled as a "Farang". "I'm THC, I have my own feelings,... I do an effort to learn your language, to learn about your culture... I really don't like to be labeled like that, etc." Together with Fisto vouching for me to be a good guy, both girls are now convinced we are both really good guys.

Word of warning: this "playing the sensitive guy" strategy can only be applied in the right situation, you have to be able to read the girls when it's applicable.

She's giving me a bunch of tests while we are walking back to my place: "do you want to have sex with me" / "how many Thai girls have you had" / etc. which I easily pass and I get her back into my room where I hit the hardest LMR to break to date. Thank god for my LMR training in the Phils.

I went all in, freeze-outs, caveman, sensitive guy (I don't like when girls play games with my feelings), the "Young and the restless lookaway"... nothing works! This is the first LMR I didn't bust through since the beginning of my trip. My game might have been a bit off since I was pretty drunk so eventually I'm too exhausted and we just both fall asleep.

The next morning I wake up more sober and restart with a clearer brain I start again. It took me one hour of escalation, de-escalation, to get her pants off. Then things got weird and she starts asking me if I want her baby (??) and she can't do "because I'm not her husband" (??)... so then I find out while this had been so hard all along: She's a virgin.

She's claiming she doesn't want sex, but since her pants are now off I could feel her panties were soaked. This incourages me to step up my caveman and I nearly had to rip them off.

Word of warning: Caveman is a very effective strategy, but again you have to read the girls VERY carefully. You have to apply the exact right amount and you have to be sure she WANTS it.

Once the panties are off she gives in and opens her legs, I put a towel beneath her and put on a LOT of lube... The tip of my dick is ready to go in but she says something to the extend of "I wanted to save for my husband" and I get struck by a moment of empathy / consideration / conscience and I stop and say.. Yes, you should wait for your husband. So I just get a bj from her.

The philosophical question here is... Does it validate as a notch?

Post: #346

(03-06-2013 09:18 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  I had this idea through another site and which I found simply brillant! Now this would make your adventures in BKK to be truly epic and totally worthy of a movie!:banana

Thoughts?

I find this idea... GENIUS. I'm discussing it further with Fisto on our trip to Pattaya to try it (at least for one day) but my idea is... I'm in for the STORY. No matter what may follow, the lady boy might rip us off, we may get into a fight or it could be just a dull day/night full of weird stares... You just know it's gonna be a good story for when you're 60: "remember that day in Bangkok we hired that lady boy assistant..." Lol - I will start thinking about the logistics and budget.

Post: #347

(03-10-2013 06:23 AM)TravelHardcore Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 09:18 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  I had this idea through another site and which I found simply brillant! Now this would make your adventures in BKK to be truly epic and totally worthy of a movie!:banana

Thoughts?

I find this idea... GENIUS. I'm discussing it further with Fisto on our trip to Pattaya to try it (at least for one day) but my idea is... I'm in for the STORY. No matter what may follow, the lady boy might rip us off, we may get into a fight or it could be just a dull day/night full of weird stares... You just know it's gonna be a good story for when you're 60: "remember that day in Bangkok we hired that lady boy assistant..." Lol - I will start thinking about the logistics and budget.

THC, that would be hilarious although I'm not sure if its the best idea, considering your violent history with lady boys!

Post: #348

Sleeping with barfined girls isn't exactly my idea of a succesfull pick up. It still means your spending dough on a ho. Probably you guys give her lady drinks too in which she gets half the price of the highly overpriced drink.
The next morning she gets her taxi money which is always too much even for the taxi and she probably takes a 10 baht motobike around the corner when you're not looking so she can pocket the extra 100 to 150 baht you gave her.

Cut of the barfine + ladydrinks + taximoney = enough money made on a night where there weren't any other possible customers anyway.

I'm not trying to rain on you guys parade but it is what it this. This is exactly the reason why I stayed far away from those hooker bars. In fact I've never been in one in South East Asia. (except one in Manila with a mixed group of backpackers)

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Befriending a lady boy to introduce you to girls - page 155 of my book/ June 2012

I'm curious how the lady boy assistant is working out for you guys. It's tricky. Be ready to spend some cash and be willing to put up with lots of drama.
I limited my contact with ladyboys to the absolute minimum and just talked to the ones who were waitressing across the street from my guesthouse in the Phils.

Post: #349

Neil, we don't pay to get into clubs. We don't buy girls drinks unless we are on an actual date and we don't generally pay a bar fine.

You are projecting what YOU would have to do to get laid.

Sorry man, don't want to rain on your parade either.

Also for the record, if you read the thread you would already know that AND you would know that I've personally said I find shoring to be overall unsatisfactory.

Post: #350

(03-10-2013 09:21 AM)Fisto Wrote:  You are projecting what YOU would have to do to get laid.

Sorry man, don't want to rain on your parade either.

I wasn't addressing you or anyone specific but that's the general idea i get from reading through this thread.

But your reaction is funny since I NEVER used this to get laid anywhere.