Post: #8051

Depends on the country. In Europe, girls seem completely fine to only talk on Snapchat.

In South America, girls give out their WhatsApp like its candy.

In USA, always push for their number

Post: #8052

(04-18-2019 08:06 AM)Phanes Wrote:  I tell them we should talk on Facebook Messenger but sometimes they do not want to share it because the I know their identity. Same with WhatsAapp. Which app do you guys ask them to talk on? And what do you say if they say they do not have it? Now I am experimenting with asking for Snapchat because many seem to have it.

Apparently they simply don't feel comfortable or intrigued enough. Work on this by either increasing their comfort or your banter. Once the girl openly says 'no' I respond with a generic banter like 'don't worry, I booty call chicks drunkenly at 3AM only on Saturday and Sunday nights'. It converts some of them. If not, I move on. You shouldn't ask for a number out of the blue, always have an accompanying reason - e.g. ask for the number only when talking about setting up a date.

Post: #8053

(12-15-2018 03:50 AM)yang2287 Wrote:  Propose a date and get a feeler if she is looking to meetup or not. Dont go to the phone number directly (Thats what every guy does). Only ask for digits for planning date logisitics. I think this has been said many times on this forum before

However in the "Best of Tinder: Tactics, Advice, Best Posts and FAQs" thread the advice is:

Quote:"The general consensus from forum users who use Tinder, and from my own experience, is that the sooner you switch to text, the better. I believe that once you switch to text, girls will mentally differentiate you to the guys they talk to on Tinder. It's a lot more personal and more permanent than the craze of Tinder. "

(04-18-2019 11:43 AM)EwartGrogan Wrote:  

(04-18-2019 08:06 AM)Phanes Wrote:  I tell them we should talk on Facebook Messenger but sometimes they do not want to share it because the I know their identity. Same with WhatsAapp. Which app do you guys ask them to talk on? And what do you say if they say they do not have it? Now I am experimenting with asking for Snapchat because many seem to have it.

Apparently they simply don't feel comfortable or intrigued enough. Work on this by either increasing their comfort or your banter. Once the girl openly says 'no' I respond with a generic banter like 'don't worry, I booty call chicks drunkenly at 3AM only on Saturday and Sunday nights'. It converts some of them. If not, I move on. You shouldn't ask for a number out of the blue, always have an accompanying reason - e.g. ask for the number only when talking about setting up a date.

Thanks. I usually say pretty quick "We should talk on Messenger because there are so many messages here"

In "Best of Tinder: Tactics, Advice, Best Posts and FAQs" thread the advice is to get their contact as soon as possible, and to coordinate the meetup preferably not via Tinder.

Post: #8054

Phanes, you have to create some spark before you go for the number. Ideally it should be done in less than 10-15 messages but if you just go from opener to number close you will fail to filter a lot of girls who will just waste your time.

I usually confirm their intention of meeting before asking for their number (why would I want it otherwise), also adding them on facebook sounds like a terrible idea.

I personally do not like the "there are too many messages here", you shouldn't make up excuses for wanting her number. She should know you are asking for her number with the intention of meeting her, not because it's more "convenient"

Post: #8055

Contrary to what the internet says, I’ve found it helpful to have no pics with girls and no shirtless pics unless I have a killer body. Gotten 5+ likes a day

Post: #8056

In terms of getting digits on tinder, there are some basic rules as well as exceptions.

If a girl doesn't want to give her digits, 99% of the time she's not looking to meet up. Exceptions can be made for some DTF girls who either want to come straight over while chatting, or who don't want their boyfriend knowing about you.

An example of the above would be a tourist girl who's flying out the next day. Here's a sample conversation:

You: Hey what's up?

Her: Just smoking a J...etc. Wbu?

You: Cool just doing X. How the dude's treating you on here?

Her: Don't really know, I'm actually flying out tommorow lol

(If a girl is about to leave your country in a few hours then don't waste time with stupid games, just move to meet them ASAP)

You: DTF?

Her: Yeah I'd be down

As soon as the girl is down, throw your clothes on and ask her where she's staying. That's it.

Situations like that are rare, but still something you should prepare for. Can often lead to the quickest and easiest sex in your entire life, and I've even fucked legit 8s doing this.

I've seen tinder from a girls perspective after banging like this. You have hundreds of losers sending DiCaprio GIFs, signalling to go out for a drink. A girl leaving in 12 hours doesn't want a date, she wants to get fucked.

For girls who aren't about to dissapear, it's very important to get them off tinder ASAP. All about narrowing the pool of guys you're competing against for the pussy. A guy on the phone has slightly more importance to her than a guy not on her phone.

You should try to get the number in 3-4 messages. All it takes is for a squad of thirsties to spam her tinder, then you find yourself so far down her inbox that she forgets about you.

I wouldn't even bother downloading snapchat. I've added lots of girls who didn't give out numbers on there, and guess how many I've even gotten a date with? ZERO. That's right, none. The app is for attention only.

I've even had girls unfriend on there when I asked for their number again. Don't fall for the trap, just remove the app.

I'm new to instagram so can't comment on that yet.

Key points:

-Push to move off tinder ASAP

-If girl wants sex now, use tinder and keep messages clear and logistical in nature.

-Don't waste time with attention seeking apps that delete all your content (snapchat)

Post: #8057

Catchy/specific opener > banter > comfort > ask out in a cocky funny way (important imop as it allows you to save frame if you do get knocked back - which is unlikely) > bag number (no need to embellish just move it to the logistics stage from here) > revise the first date bang thread

Even if you’re doing a mundane task when the standard “what are you doing today” comes up just throw on some cheesy crap after it like “I like to live dangerously” or “I’m such a rebel”. Alternatively drop a value activity/hobby

When you do bag the number and interest, and you’re not that fussed about her because she has a slut defence prowling, leave it for 24hrs before you WhatsApp or whatever. Then open them with some “wanted to look like I was playing hard to get” then hit them with some random bullshit story about what happened to you that makes you look cool and why you didn’t get in touch, that enhances your value

Some girls are crap at banter and just reply with one line that doesn’t give you much to work with. I wouldn’t give up straight away though, see it as a shit test to lead them, as girls love to test “chemistry”

Read/screen them from their profile/responses, this allows you to lead them.

Post: #8058

So today I attempted to log onto Tinder and discovered my account had been logged out. I attempted to log back in using phone number and was logged in through my FB account listing my true age (I'm 31 but list myself as 26.) I attempted to sign in several more times ensuring that I was signing in with my phone number but had the same issue.

What happened here?

Post: #8059

You can upload directly to the app

Post: #8060

You may have accidently hit the fb login button

Post: #8061

I've already stated i ensured I did not hit FB log in

Post: #8062

I'm guessing I need to get a new number/or FB account?

I received the obligatory new profile boost and matched with 12 women. Scrolling through a bunch of early 30s post-walls only solidified my resolve to continue lying about my age.

Post: #8063

(04-19-2019 03:32 AM)The King Wrote:  In terms of getting digits on tinder, there are some basic rules as well as exceptions.

If a girl doesn't want to give her digits, 99% of the time she's not looking to meet up. Exceptions can be made for some DTF girls who either want to come straight over while chatting, or who don't want their boyfriend knowing about you.

An example of the above would be a tourist girl who's flying out the next day. Here's a sample conversation:

You: Hey what's up?

Her: Just smoking a J...etc. Wbu?

You: Cool just doing X. How the dude's treating you on here?

Her: Don't really know, I'm actually flying out tommorow lol

(If a girl is about to leave your country in a few hours then don't waste time with stupid games, just move to meet them ASAP)

You: DTF?

Her: Yeah I'd be down

As soon as the girl is down, throw your clothes on and ask her where she's staying. That's it.

Situations like that are rare, but still something you should prepare for. Can often lead to the quickest and easiest sex in your entire life, and I've even fucked legit 8s doing this.

I've seen tinder from a girls perspective after banging like this. You have hundreds of losers sending DiCaprio GIFs, signalling to go out for a drink. A girl leaving in 12 hours doesn't want a date, she wants to get fucked.

For girls who aren't about to dissapear, it's very important to get them off tinder ASAP. All about narrowing the pool of guys you're competing against for the pussy. A guy on the phone has slightly more importance to her than a guy not on her phone.

You should try to get the number in 3-4 messages. All it takes is for a squad of thirsties to spam her tinder, then you find yourself so far down her inbox that she forgets about you.

I wouldn't even bother downloading snapchat. I've added lots of girls who didn't give out numbers on there, and guess how many I've even gotten a date with? ZERO. That's right, none. The app is for attention only.

I've even had girls unfriend on there when I asked for their number again. Don't fall for the trap, just remove the app.

I'm new to instagram so can't comment on that yet.

Key points:

-Push to move off tinder ASAP

-If girl wants sex now, use tinder and keep messages clear and logistical in nature.

-Don't waste time with attention seeking apps that delete all your content (snapchat)

Exchange a few messages then go for the number.

If the response is anything less than an immediate reply with her number, forget it

I've gotten lays by moving to Instagram or Facebook, but as a rule if she fucks around and doesn't give you her number straight away (no matter how realistic her excuse seems) delete her.

Do not fall for "let's talk for a while here first" or "I'll give you my number after the first date". These are lines designed to keep you hanging on and you will never ever ever meet this girl.

Post: #8064

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Exchange a few messages then go for the number.

If the response is anything less than an immediate reply with her number, forget it

I've gotten lays by moving to Instagram or Facebook, but as a rule if she fucks around and doesn't give you her number straight away (no matter how realistic her excuse seems) delete her.

Do not fall for "let's talk for a while here first" or "I'll give you my number after the first date". These are lines designed to keep you hanging on and you will never ever ever meet this girl.
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Good additions

It didn't take long to find out that "let's talk for a while here first" translated into being ghosted within a few messages.

Post: #8065

I was supposed to meet up with a girl yesterday. I matched her several days ago, got her phone number and setup a date which were supposed to be yesterday, but I've been busy as hell the last couple days and haven't really been in contact with her. So, naturally, she cancelled just one hour before our 'date', with some bullshit excuse. I just replied: 'let me know if you're free another time". I'm not surprised of course. While she was hot last week, she's cold now.

What do you guys do if you can't meet up until like a week later? Do you keep messaging the girl to keep a convo going and having her invested? I just hate communicating over text.

Post: #8066

@Arising

I have the same difficulty when meeting girls more than 5 days out. Keep in mind, however, that 99% of the girls I meet know what I'm looking for (I explicitly say that I'm DTF). Because they're aware that sex is the objective, the window of opportunity will be less than with a girl who's just meeting for 'drinks'.

Doing goofy shit like sending ping texts or memes has rarely worked for me, but apparently it works for some guys. The whole beta aspect of keeping up casual communication is very hard for me to pull off, due to my complete disinterest in small talk. If I do this it comes off as not being authentic.

When it comes to the day of the date, I like to send a text much earlier around mid day. I'll keep it 100% logistical "Let's meet in X at Y" that's it. Don't get disheartened if she doesn't respond to your text right away, just make sure she responds within reasonable time. If she doesn't respond the date isn't happening.

Leading up to the date, I send a text an hour before saying "I'll leave my place in X minutes". This is a last minute check to see if she's flaked, as I'm not wasting my time walking to the bar for no reason.

Your situation with the girl cancelling 1 hour before is completely unacceptable, however. You shouldn't even respond to such a dumb text. Also never use the term "let me know" with a girl (or let them say it either). They never let you know.

I don't care how interested a girl is from the get go. If enough time passes all that interest will fade, especially for someone you haven't even met in person. You're just a disposible statistic, so just keep rolling your dice and meeting other girls.

Post: #8067

(04-20-2019 08:19 AM)Arising Wrote:  I was supposed to meet up with a girl yesterday. I matched her several days ago, got her phone number and setup a date which were supposed to be yesterday, but I've been busy as hell the last couple days and haven't really been in contact with her. So, naturally, she cancelled just one hour before our 'date', with some bullshit excuse. I just replied: 'let me know if you're free another time". I'm not surprised of course. While she was hot last week, she's cold now.

What do you guys do if you can't meet up until like a week later? Do you keep messaging the girl to keep a convo going and having her invested? I just hate communicating over text.

If I know I can't meet then I avoid setting up the date, usually after piquing her interest I tell them I'm going on a trip/vacation/out of town and I let them know when I'm back. I'm having way more success telling them I'm going out of town over being busy.

I think it's a mistake setting up the date too early, she's going to go through the date scenario over and over in her mind and unless you are inviting her to an awesome even she's dying to go to, most likely she would realize it's not worth her time. Usually you want to have one very good conversation when you first match/get her contact and then when you come back have another good one so you can invite her when she's on an emotional high note.

Post: #8068

I did the 3-month hiatus reset method on one of my accounts.

Remade earlier today, got 10 likes in a few hours, so it looked to be a solid reset. I ran out of swipes so I bought Tinder Gold (I bought Tinder gold since it appeared my reset was DOA from the start). Matched all my girls (good quality, no trash) in the queue, got numbers.

Likes since purchasing Tinder gold: 1

And, just ran boost. two matches.

I purchased Tinder Gold using the website, so no iTunes account was linked.

I'm giving up on this nonsense

Post: #8069

(04-20-2019 06:48 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  I did the 3-month hiatus reset method on one of my accounts.

Remade earlier today, got 10 likes in a few hours, so it looked to be a solid reset. I ran out of swipes so I bought Tinder Gold (i bought Tinder gold since it appeared my reset was DOA from the start). Matched all my girls (good quality, no trash) in the queue, got numbers.

Likes since purchasing Tinder gold: 1

You win Tinder. I give up...

If you used the same google play/apple id as before to purchase tinder gold then you effectively bricked your reset.
Also I advice everyone NOT to buy tinder gold, just stick with plus + boosts.

Post: #8070

I revised the post.

I used the web version of Tinder to buy Tinder gold so I only input credit card and email, and bought it that way.

I agree Plus + boosts is all one needs, but I didnt want to waste time swiping through to see who liked me since i already had a handful waiting to match.

It seems like I would have been better off letting my account accumulate likes and THEN buying Gold/Plus

I only bought 1 month subscription, so if the account remains dry, I'll just have to eat the $14-15 loss and just delete and try again

Post: #8071

Basic questions here; I want to see what I'm doing wrong.

Before, I had Tinder on a small Western European city - would run out of swipes in like three days, almost no matches.
Now I'm moving between big cities in Asia and I have a better profile with some professional pics. I have matches regularly and almost never run out of swipes. I got a couple bangs with 6s - that's not much, obviously. I'm in my late 30's and never pay for boosts or anything.


- what's the number of matches per day/ week I should be aiming for? What percentage should normally reply? Most of my matches don't want to meet if they reply at all.

- If a girl a) is giving one word answers every so many hours (so no real conversation going) b) gives you a bitchy, dismissive or angry autistic reply at your attempt to banter c) is trying hard to make you chase while grilling you for provider traits (I match a lot of girls around 30 which I would bang and even date if it wasn't for them pulling this shit before we even met).. . do you unmatch them outright or any chance fixing them? Do you keep bad matches for any reason?

- how long do you wait before opening? I usually swipe/match throught the day but open around dinner time when I'm free.

Post: #8072

(04-21-2019 02:27 AM)HowOneBecomesWhatOneIs Wrote:  Basic questions here; I want to see what I'm doing wrong.

Before, I had Tinder on a small Western European city - would run out of swipes in like three days, almost no matches.
Now I'm moving between big cities in Asia and I have a better profile with some professional pics. I have matches regularly and almost never run out of swipes. I got a couple bangs with 6s - that's not much, obviously. I'm in my late 30's and never pay for boosts or anything.


- what's the number of matches per day/ week I should be aiming for? What percentage should normally reply? Most of my matches don't want to meet if they reply at all.

- If a girl a) is giving one word answers every so many hours (so no real conversation going) b) gives you a bitchy, dismissive or angry autistic reply at your attempt to banter c) is trying hard to make you chase while grilling you for provider traits (I match a lot of girls around 30 which I would bang and even date if it wasn't for them pulling this shit before we even met).. . do you unmatch them outright or any chance fixing them? Do you keep bad matches for any reason?

- how long do you wait before opening? I usually swipe/match throught the day but open around dinner time when I'm free.

My philosophy is that there are too many girls on Tinder to waste time on anyone who is giving you shit. This includes snark, calling your opener "cheesy", being dismissive, giving one word answers, not responding for 48 hours, being unececcarily bitchy, any attempt to put you in the provider box "what are you looking for on here?" / "I've had my fun now it's time to get serious", and just generally not treating the whole thing with fun or light-heartedness. You want a girl who is pleasant (says hahaha a lot) and is able to banter with you while at the same time asking timely, genuine questions about yourself. There are few girls like this, sure, but those are the one you should focus on.

It doesn't matter how hot she is, you're frustrating yourself with girls who are autistic and entitled.

Post: #8073

No likes so far today. I guess I did brick my reset

Post: #8074

(04-21-2019 12:53 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  No likes so far today. I guess I did brick my reset

Did you keep using tinder web or did you log back into your phone?

Post: #8075

I used both simultaneously. Had no issues before I got gold.

I got less matches running boost than as a non paying user.

I can’t get a new number. Or new fb. But maybe. New , remade account + buying tinder plus on new iTunes account Would give decent results.

I’m running out of ideas at this point. I’m ok if I don’t get a ton of matches like I used to. But zero is just unacceptable.

Fortunately the girls I matched yesterday are pretty down and I fucked one last night. So the purchase wasn’t a complete waste. But I basically got 2 hours of value from a 30 day purchase. There has to be a way to overcome this app