These Tinder bots are getting good.

Had one yesterday match with me. The responses weren't the usual immediate responses and they actually used proper grammar. The third message was asking me for a hookup and it even gave a town that is close to where I live. I was like "sure" and then it asked me to video chat because "she had been burned in the past by other guys not looking like their pics".

The pics weren't even model quality. The girl....err, I mean bot, was maybe a 6.

(02-08-2017 03:40 AM)rafaeld Wrote:  I wouldn't bother with Tinder in Western countries any more. You can still kill with it overseas though.

Total waste of time when considering how few girls are actually decent (read: almost none that aren't youth novelty 18-22). I stopped it many moons ago, and it was bad then; girls being picky who I would never even consider approaching in real life (4-6/10) was the death blow --- attention drones.

28+ are oversexed sluts who just don't care. You could be that guy, but I don't recommend it. At all.

So I downloaded the auto swiper Flamite and used it for about 2000 swipes. Since doing that yesterday until now I have had about 6 matches. That is about 6x more than I usually get, and I only ran it for 2,000 as opposed to something like 10,000 that many recommend. I am still a little worried about getting banned from tinder for using an auto swiper, but I think it is worth the risk.

Is anyone here familiar with Flamite? For some reason a lot of times when I click on auto-like it begins to swipe, but for some reason stops after a certain amount. Can anyone tell me why and/or how to make it continuously swipe until I'm ready to stop it?

MrRemi Tinder datasheet


Intro
I have been very active on Tinder in the past. Almost half of my lifetime notches are from Tinder. I have developed some strategies that at this point I don't mind sharing.

Profile
I use a fake Facebook profile with no friends. All my photos are on private, only I can see them.

Photos: I use 3 photos. You want to look really good on them and have something that draws attention to them. Don't be too posing. You don't want to be a try-hard. Don't use selfies.
my first photo: me sitting at a bar, no smile, Putin face, not looking into the camera, best angle half side view
second photo: me standing and posing in the street, a passerby girl stares at me
third photo: front view with a friendly smerk

Profile text
Over the time I have been using Tinder I have experimented with several profile texts. It all depends what you are looking for (dates or sex). If you are looking for immediate sex, then the best way to screen is to use an adequate profile text. Else you end up on endless coffee dates with girls looking for relationships or language exchange
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looking for date/relationship profile text:
Include where you are from, your job title (if it's DHV), what you do. DHV is key. E.g. "French guy, entrepreneur in pharmaceutics, new here. Hola como estas?"

looking for sex profile text:
Screen hard! Some that have worked for me:
- "yo girl, what's good?"
- "chill your girl, nigga just wanna get laid"
- "looking for a cute sex slave"
I'd use a smiley at the end not to come over as too much of a creep.

You will get some unmatches with the sex-optimized text, as many girls would only look at it once they got matched. That's a good sign because it filters out the ones that would want to go on endless coffee dates and waste your time.

Personal information
You can chose to display the place you work or the university etc. from Facebook. Occasionally I added my university but I think it does not make much difference.

Location
Be somewhere that Tinder is being used. Places where I found Tinder to work well are:
- France (expats mostly)
- Germany
- Ukraine
- Hungary
- Brazil
- Colombia
- Switzerland (expats mostly)

And here are the countries where you find nothing but a handful of Americanized girls:
- Macedonia
- Moldova
- Italy
- Iran
- Israel

Settings
Search radius
Generally I use a search range of 10 km (6 miles). When you adjust the range, the girls are rearranged and the ones that already liked you show up somewhere among the first you swipe. I would always adjust the range first when I start up Tinder on a new day (e.g. from 10 km to 11 km).

age range
As you wish but personally I would not go over 30. How many dicks must a girl have had if she's 30+ and still on Tinder?

Swiping
Tinder algorithm is a bitch. Therefore you want to follow these steps:

1. When you are new in a location, or you have just installed Tinder and created a new profile, you should swipe maybe 5 girls (not more!). This will initialize Tinder and get you shown to girls. You will get no matches at this point because of course you are new and no girl had time to swipe you right. Then exit Tinder and wait 24 hours.

2. Only after 24 hours you open Tinder again. Go to settings and minimally adjust your search radius (e.g. from 10 to 11 km). Swipe a handful of girls. You should get a couple of matches withing the first 10 girls that show up. If not then your photos are shit, go take better photos, hire a photographer or whatever. If you get no match on 5 girls in a row that you swipe right, then there's no point in carrying on. There are no more girls that liked you for the moment.

3. Wait another 24 hours. Go swiping again, and as soon as you see you get no more matches you stop swiping!

Some observations:
- Don't swipe right on ugly girls, land whales (unless you're into that) or girls you would not bang. Have some standards! Tinder algorithm might even classify you as a bot if you like everyone!
- Don't continue swiping if you get no more matches. Tinder algorithm will show you more frequently to girls if you have a low swipe-to-match ratio. The algorithm notices you are in high demand. Showing you as a high value targets to girls is how Tinder grows its business.
- If you don't have Tinder Plus you run into a max number of swipes after 50 swipes. This never occurred to me, I would always stop before. I would never swipe more than 20-25 girls at once.
- Girls would get around 50% match ratio every time they swipe. I have seen it. Hot girls with standards would swipe right maybe 1 out of 20 guys. This means you got to have top-5% photos.

Chatting
I don't text immediately after I get matched. I would wait for a day before I open them. Some girls would write me first normally taking reference to the profile text or asking me where I am from.

Opener
Don't go over creative, don't invest too much time. My favorite opener is very simple: "<girl's name>!". I would shorten the name occasionally, e.g. to Alexandra I'd write "Alex!", to Svietlana, "Lana!" etc. The second opener that I use is one that I copied from a guy on youtube (LAHWF is his channel), it's "You're a babe". Simple and gives a funny vibe.

Screening
You want to screen for girls that actually want to meet. Many girls are on Tinder just to get validation, because they are bored or dumb. The best way to do that I found is asking "Wanna meet me?".

Texting
General game rules apply. Neg her a bit, don't text back immediately. Don't take it too serious, don't invest too much time and energy.

   

Meeting up
There are different ways to go, here the ways that I have used:

1. Go for the number, write her on Whatsapp or similar, build comfort, arrange a date.

2. When you are at a bar or cafe already, text a girl nearby (<2 km) with whom you had previously exchanged a couple of messages. Tell her to join you, e.g. "hey I am at ... cafe, my friend is about to leave, come join me". No need to exchange numbers.

3. If you have been very direct (profile text showing you are looking for sex, asked her if she wants to meet etc), then tell her that you will be free at ... o'clock and want to meet up. "Ok listen, I got to get something some business done now, I will be free at 7pm, come meet me then". No need to exchange phone numbers.

Don't take it to serious. On average out of 40 matches I would get about 20 short conversations. Out of these I would meet 1 or 2 at the end. Knowing that you should not invest too much time.

Other observations
- A majority of girls on Tinder are DTF. They look for guys who fuck them well. At the beginning I had used Roosh style world game (laying about staying long term, stable job DHV, sneaky excuse to get her to your apartment). I later found out that none of that is necessary. Girls are even more willing to meet up if you tell them that you leave the next day. Also most are not interested in what you work exactly (I tell them I run a business).

- Most girls are ovulating when they are on Tinder. Therefore it's best to meet them as soon as possible (or else wait for 28 days). That's also the reason why I am not a big fan of pipelining too far ahead.

- Be careful about ugly girls and secret internet fatties. If she has only selfies then probably she is fat. If she is old (over 26) then it often occurs that she's uglier in real life than on her photos. However, I have also met girls who were much hotter (9's, actual models) in reality. These are generally looking for a hookup are are much more receptive if you're not a local.

- The only benefit of Tinder Plus is that you can change location. This is useful if you only stay in one place for a couple of days, so you could start getting matches a day or two before arrival.

- Tinder social is for double dates. I have tried it with a friend once, but we only got one match. Seems useless.

(02-10-2017 12:31 AM)StackGsMan Wrote:  So I downloaded the auto swiper Flamite and used it for about 2000 swipes. Since doing that yesterday until now I have had about 6 matches. That is about 6x more than I usually get, and I only ran it for 2,000 as opposed to something like 10,000 that many recommend. I am still a little worried about getting banned from tinder for using an auto swiper, but I think it is worth the risk.

Is anyone here familiar with Flamite? For some reason a lot of times when I click on auto-like it begins to swipe, but for some reason stops after a certain amount. Can anyone tell me why and/or how to make it continuously swipe until I'm ready to stop it?

The issue isn't getting banned, it's getting thrown into "mass right swiper" purgatory where the only girls you'll see are the ones who mass swiped right. So bots and fuglies. Once you're in there it's hard to get out because tinder does 3 things:

1) Throttles your profile from being shown to "normal accounts" so in the past you would have had the "opportunity" to be shown to 100% of tinder users, now you're only visible to 10%

2) Pushes you to the back of the swipe deck so unless you live in a remote area women will have to swipe through tens of thousands of profiles before they even get to yours. If you're near a major city the women who will see your profile are the same women who are stuck on dating sites for 5 years or women who just want massive amounts of attention and have 0 plans to meet with anyone.

3) Only accounts in not in mass right swiping purgatory can get you out, so even if all the fuglies want your dick it's not going to get you back to "normal" tinder

I managed to get my friend out of it by changing his profile picture and switching it to show gay guys. Once he switched back to his normal photos and selected women the quality of women shot up and he started getting non-bot matches again. But who knows how long that will be viable for as i've seen tinder marketers openly talk about this topic for the past few months so it's only a matter of time before tinder patches that and closes the loophole.

If you use flamite use their manual swiping and you can go through tons of matches just hitting the left/right arrow keys. But before you move to lazy swiping you'll get a better ROI if you find some better pics to use. Have some female friends critique your profile and show them other pictures as options to use and let them pick your main pic or go to http://reddit.com/r/tinder and get your profile reviewed there.

I dabble with photography here and there and by no means am I an expert but I sometimes cringe at the pictures guys use while having much better pictures already available. Guys are thinking "this pic is going to get me lots of lays" while girls are thinking "this guy looks like a serial killer"

Great tips there MrRemi. I'm curious to know what age you are and if you lie about it on tinder?

Instead of paying for Tinder Plus just grab a Windows Phone and get the 6tin app (unofficial).

Using this one you can manually set your location AND you can delete and recreate your account in less than a minute if your stream of matches goes dry.

Why would someone who unmatched you previously match with you again?

At least I learnt my lesson.

This is textbook Tindering, gentlemen, exactly like it was in 2013:








Now for logistics:

I'm glad her dinner is in the city; my suburb is a couple of kilometres up, a 10 minute tram ride. I live off a huge nightlife precinct, so I could even arrange to meet there.
It's way more convenient than meeting in our childhood suburb that was mentioned in the convo. Given how she behaved the last time we matched, I wonder how likely I will be to aim for the bang on Friday. The red pilled part of me says, yes, of course they're all up for it. But should I?

(02-08-2017 03:40 AM)rafaeld Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 02:34 AM)StackGsMan Wrote:  Tinder is getting really bad for me lately. When I first got the app nearly a year ago I used to match more than 3 girls a day, and could get a date easily. Now it has gotten to the point where I'm lucky to get one match a day and they are usually ugly, fat, a bot, or don't respond.

Another member mentioned similar results in Houston, but can anyone help explain this? Is it just me or is tinder actually six feet under?

I think this is guaranteed to happen to every dating app eventually.

As adoption increases the quantity of men goes up. Women get pestered more and some leave the app out of annoyance or just sheer overabundance of choice causes paralysis. You are competing with more good-looking alpha men for an ever decreasing number of attractive women.

This is true.

The very first dating site/app I used was POF. 2011-2013 were the peak years. I used to put one standard photo up, nothing special. Give it a few hours and I was inundated with messages (girls initiating, not simply responding to me). Yes, plenty of fat single mothers, but I was managing to, with complete ease, get numbers from girls 10-15 years younger than me of all levels of attractiveness. I had pages of messages. I actually had to blow some hot girls off. They also phoned you if they had your number, that was the level of investment.

Forward to now and it's tumbleweeds.

You're correct. It's men. As these apps and dating sites become more mainstream, the more men are joining, and the girls are simply inundated.

(02-15-2017 08:22 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  You're correct. It's men. As these apps and dating sites become more mainstream, the more men are joining, and the girls are simply inundated.

Absolutely agree. That's why if you are talking to a girl, escalate immediately. Don't try and play a 'long game' with them. Their short attention span won't last long on you before they move on to the new exciting prospect. Rinse/repeat.

Bump.

Can anyone that uses Flamite help me out? Every time I use it and turn on auto like it works for a certain number of swipes and then stops. Then I have to manually click on a different tab such as matches and then click back for it to begin swiping again. After doing that a few times it stops swiping altogether.

Is there a way to fix this? I want to be able to swipe non-stop until I get to 10,000 or so, but so far I haven't been able to get past 900 in one sitting without it stopping.

So just an update. I used flamite a few days for a total of probably 3k-4k swipes. On top of that I did a bunch of quick right swipes manually. Now my tinder says no one new around you even though I am located in Houston and set the distance to 100 miles.

Has my account been flagged and now I'm fucked? If so, any idea what I can do?

(02-17-2017 11:29 AM)StackGsMan Wrote:  So just an update. I used flamite a few days for a total of probably 3k-4k swipes. On top of that I did a bunch of quick right swipes manually. Now my tinder says no one new around you even though I am located in Houston and set the distance to 100 miles.

Has my account been flagged and now I'm fucked? If so, any idea what I can do?

How many matches did you get?

Tinder algorithm will put you way back on the rank of being shown to girls if your conversion rate (match per swipe) is low.

I have never used any such tool and I don't recommend doing it. I would swipe right 30 girls (only WBs) and get 10 matches. That's a conversion rate of 33%. I stop swiping when I get no more matches. A high conversion rate is key.

(02-17-2017 11:55 AM)MrRemi Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 11:29 AM)StackGsMan Wrote:  So just an update. I used flamite a few days for a total of probably 3k-4k swipes. On top of that I did a bunch of quick right swipes manually. Now my tinder says no one new around you even though I am located in Houston and set the distance to 100 miles.

Has my account been flagged and now I'm fucked? If so, any idea what I can do?

How many matches did you get?

Tinder algorithm will put you way back on the rank of being shown to girls if your conversion rate (match per swipe) is low.

I have never used any such tool and I don't recommend doing it. I would swipe right 30 girls (only WBs) and get 10 matches. That's a conversion rate of 33%. I stop swiping when I get no more matches. A high conversion rate is key.

If I swipe normally I get an average of 2 matches per like 50-100 swipes.

is 6tin working as a spoof? i'm interested in the international search, and for free (obviously)

Finally got round to getting some pro photos done. Weather isn't great at the moment so only indoor shoot. They are new and building up some clients and a portfolio etc... but I saw some of their other shoots and look good. Cant complain with £60 for an hours shoot and photos on usb

A LOT of girls on there say like "you look like a party guy", "seems like you like to party a lot, right?".

Any ideas of a good response to that?

I get matches, get replies from girls but I can't get them interested enough (my convos are from very bold to normal) to convert into numbers. Sometimes conversation is good but they stop replying and the next day is completely dead in most cases. The only recent exception was a girl who, on Saturday night, after a week's silence messaged me her number. Contacted her on whatsapp, she replied immediately, pushed for a late night meet up, for whatever reason she declined. Attention whoring galore.

Try to build more attraction before pushing for the meet up. You are already physically attracted to eachother (even if it's just a little). Works for me.

But can someone check me on that? All the forum vets seems to advocate pushing for the meetup asap

Guys I need help with my post tinder text game

I've gotten dozens upon dozens of numbers from tinder, I find the girls just give it out easily. However when I bring the girls to Whatsapp I will usually set a day and time, only to receive excuses or two blue ticks on the day.

I had a arranged to meetup with 3 girls this week, one has blue ticked me, one is being minimal and not engaging in the messages and the other "completely forgot" about tonight and wants to meet later in the week.

I've been advised by an experienced player to call the girls which I haven't done for these girls so that's my fault. Maybe I'm leaving too big of a gap between first contact and date too.

But other than that I'm guessing my text game is weak. I don't want to put the conversations up on here but if any experienced members want to help my via PM I'll give all the details

Thanks

(02-10-2017 09:08 AM)btz Wrote:  [quote='StackGsMan' pid='1506864' dateline='1486704710']

I managed to get my friend out of it by changing his profile picture and switching it to show gay guys. Once he switched back to his normal photos and selected women the quality of women shot up and he started getting non-bot matches again. But who knows how long that will be viable for as i've seen tinder marketers openly talk about this topic for the past few months so it's only a matter of time before tinder patches that and closes the loophole.

Thanks for this. Any other tips out there to get out of purgatory? I was matching like crazy before something happened. Night/day difference...

All right, which one of you did this ?

Heartbroken woman who was duped into a 14-month romance with a man using a fake Tinder account calls for 'catfishing' to be made illegal

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...legal.html

A heartbroken woman who was lured into a 14-month relationship by a married father with a fake Tinder account is demanding a change in the law to make 'catfishing' illegal.

Anna Rowe, 44, met a man calling himself 'Antony Ray' after they matched on the dating app and they met up after three months of talking online, embarking on a whirlwind romance.

He had even used the same picture of Bollywood star Saif Ali Khan on his Tinder account, who looks similar to him but allows him to continue lying to his family without the risk of being caught out.

Three months later, in November, they met for the first time when Antony drove to meet Anna in her home town of Canterbury, Kent, and their relationship blossomed.

Miss Rowe has now launched a petition entitled 'Making a fake online profile with the intent to use women/men for sex, should be a crime,' in the hope it will protect others.

She added: 'If this man had "asked" me for money, he would have committed a criminal offence under the fraud act.

'If he had used his fake profile to cause distress by "trolling" me or posting an intimate picture he would have committed a criminal offence under the communications act.

'But creating a profile to lure me into a fake relationship is not deemed a crime and it should be. What he did has almost destroyed me.

'This is not a revenge story; I actually feel sorry for him. But it isn't just him that does this. The legislation is not keeping up with the speed of technology.'

The fake account of 'Antony Ray' has since been deleted.

Kent Police confirmed nothing could be done about Antony's deception. A spokesman said: 'Kent Police received a report of a domestic dispute on 14 January 2017 but no criminal offences were disclosed during the call or when an officer visited the informant later that day.'

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Test, Test, United States, 17 minutes ago
Dumb cow- and she has a job teaching children!!! Got what she deserved- thick stupid dumb cow

(09-18-2016 12:30 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  @JWLZG

Bio is probably fine comrade. Girls is just throwing up her obligatory anti-slut flag. Really no different than a girl asking "so what are you looking for on here?" She's on fucking Tinder after all so whatever.

Good text game, and good job soothing the hamster.

Paint me a newb, but what is the best response to that questions? Got it for the first time from a dope AF 21 yo cutie a couple weeks ago... and blew her out... First tried "no expectations, going with the flow = silence; then went direct = unmatched.

Matched with a girl, six I guess, and on Friday, she opened late afternoon with a 'Marilyn gif kiss', so replied 'good you like kissing but are you actually cool?' started chatting, all going smooth, and got her number at 7pm, which is just now. Should I push for tonight? Straight to mine? Bar? Or tomorrow? Never been successful with going past numbers.

It's a numbers game jack. Keep it short but not too short, get a little cute but not too much, biggest rule by FAR

do not take it seriously, at all. repeat that line out loud 5 times.

at this stage in the game, western tinder is more about entertainment and attention, and totally random as to whether you can convert something, all things being equal

it's like rolling dice on when her hormones start that month

if you consider that there are some girls that don't realize that Tinder is not a good site to "date" you'll soon realize how low quality, stupid, or attention whoring they are

keep it short and move on, 99% are time wasters

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