(08-19-2014 04:08 PM)BlurredLines Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 01:00 PM)Ternarydemonite Wrote:  An easy red flag to notice is when a girl puts its skype, instagram or twitter account. They are only for the attention. Even ugly girls are doing it. Swipe left and save your time.

You're right in some cases, but i'd disagree in most. Experience tells me that most girls with their instagram (common) are of course looking for attention, but also still looking for the right guy to wow them. I've got two dates scheduled this week from girls on tinder that i never matched with; one rich teen russian girl in london for the summer (don't dare ask how old she is) and one 18 year old gap year chick who should model bikinis judging by the thirst on her instagram. All by adding and messaging them on instagram.
So i wouldn't write them off straight away. Alway an angle to play. And if it fails, no harm.

I guess I just refuse to add to their thirst on IG and hit them up there. However, it's a great filter to see if they're a SIF, only on there for validation, or if they truly are DTF or want to date.

(08-19-2014 01:50 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 07:03 AM)bigbait Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 06:12 AM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 05:43 AM)nick_ Wrote:  Run perfect text game
2 girls that agreed in principle agree to meet up
say they working X day, ask what time/suggest times
Day and a half later they both unmatch me
cool man...

Your message here seems to be internally contradictory (I don't mean that in a negative judgmental way).

What I mean is that you are suggesting that you texted perfectly, but then nothing came of the back and forth and then you are prepared to NEXT them.. which is fine.. I guess..

Moving on is frequently a good choice, but if you are writing about it here, then you may be thinking that something may have been lacking in the interaction or that it was just these girls who had issues?

It may have been that just each of these girls were NOT good matches... or unwilling to commit to meeting or flakes? Seems that the lesson may be either to get the girls to commit to something concrete early on or they are NOT going to follow through?

I think it happens that sometimes you run perfect text games and the girls drop out. who knows why. maybe they just had a bad tinder date and need a break for a while. maybe they just got banged hard and are temporarily satisfied. maybe their boyfriend caught them cheating. maybe some guy ran even more perfect text game.... (he is a start up billionare, polyglot jujitsu philanthropis with an 8 pack)

however.... i think it is rare for girls to unmatch guys. at least they never never never unmatch me as far as i notice. girls i spoke to about only unmatch guys that are offensive to them. when you get an unmatch i think it is more likely that they deleted their tinder account. in which case don't worry, they'll be back

Regarding your first point, I think that you are onto something that the reasons could be really varied regarding flaking... and probably it is NOT too productive to get too caught up into that, unless there is some later follow-up and you want to call the girl out on that.

You may also be correct about the rarity of the unmatch, unless the girl was offended... or deleting their account, but it seems that your description of "perfect text game" would mean that you believe you did NOT offend them? OR, you are considering that it may be possible that these girls deleted their accounts? OR you are just moving on without giving too much further consideration to this?

I rarely offend girls. If I do offend them I unmatch them myself so that they can't report me hahaha.

Girls have told me that they only unmatch guys who offend them or that accidentally liked. Girls usually have long lists of matches.

Yes, I'm saying don't worry about it, but there is a good chance that an unmatch is really a deletion of their account. Even girls that flake on me on a date don't unmatch me. Girls who I drop after dating them don't unmatch me either. They want to have your pictures there to show their friends. Of course they are also screenshotting your pics and sending it to friends to mock you.... they'll send a pic of your profile to their friend with a message like "this guy fucked me last night... he smelled... lol"

How many girls are actually willing to meet up? As soon as you drop the flirty and light convo and ask for details for a meet up a lot of them go into radio silence mode. This case was weird because i was actually trying with my messages and they both disappeared at the same time.

(08-20-2014 02:45 AM)nick_ Wrote:  How many girls are actually willing to meet up? As soon as you drop the flirty and light convo and ask for details for a meet up a lot of them go into radio silence mode. This case was weird because i was actually trying with my messages and they both disappeared at the same time.

sometimes that happens. it could be that the girl didn't like how you asked her how (some girls want you to lead like "let's go to X place" somegirls want you to be polite like "would you like to..." ), it could be that your transition could be better, it could be you need to build more comfort or attraction or value, it could just be that the girl went back and looked at your photo. for shits and giggles in your restart message you can ask what went wrong. if it is a value or attraction problem she probably won't be honest but if it a social norms thing she probably will be

(08-20-2014 02:45 AM)nick_ Wrote:  How many girls are actually willing to meet up? As soon as you drop the flirty and light convo and ask for details for a meet up a lot of them go into radio silence mode. This case was weird because i was actually trying with my messages and they both disappeared at the same time.

Is this AFTER you get their number, or on Tinder ?

How much comfort are you building into your convo ?

Some girls just want validation from guys on Tinder, but never actually want to meet up.

(08-20-2014 02:45 AM)nick_ Wrote:  How many girls are actually willing to meet up? As soon as you drop the flirty and light convo and ask for details for a meet up a lot of them go into radio silence mode. This case was weird because i was actually trying with my messages and they both disappeared at the same time.

What happens to me is we flirt for a little on the app, get the number, text for a little. I wait a day or two to open them up again, when I text them, no answer.

To be fair, I only send one restart text and if they don't answer, I move on. I could always suck up my pride and try one last time to get them to respond but I'm usually turned off by that point.

If a woman isn't genuinely excited to hear from me, my interest in her starts to drop little by little with each passing day.

(08-20-2014 12:08 PM)Mister X Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 02:45 AM)nick_ Wrote:  How many girls are actually willing to meet up? As soon as you drop the flirty and light convo and ask for details for a meet up a lot of them go into radio silence mode. This case was weird because i was actually trying with my messages and they both disappeared at the same time.

What happens to me is we flirt for a little on the app, get the number, text for a little. I wait a day or two to open them up again, when I text them, no answer.

To be fair, I only send one restart text and if they don't answer, I move on. I could always suck up my pride and try one last time to get them to respond but I'm usually turned off by that point.

If a woman isn't genuinely excited to hear from me, my interest in her starts to drop little by little with each passing day.

Bitches lose interest so fucking fast on Tinder at least in my case. My best successes have been girls that I started messaging with in the morning and by noon have their phone number and have invited them out for that evening.

I have fucking tons of leads that look super tight in the beginning but because one or both of us have scheduling issues the interaction dies. Sometimes a restart does the trick but I think most of the time they have either found a better offer or were never really that interested in meeting someone on tinder.

What kind of pics do you guys have?

I'm starting to see a drop in the quantity(and quality) of girls I'm being matched with. I don't know whether it's because I'm not in NYC anymore or because I need to change my pics and/or bio or something. I'm getting around 4-6 matches per week whereas I used to get that much in a day.

(08-20-2014 06:53 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  What kind of pics do you guys have?

I'm starting to see a drop in the quantity(and quality) of girls I'm being matched with. I don't know whether it's because I'm not in NYC anymore or because I need to change my pics and/or bio or something. I'm getting around 4-6 matches per week whereas I used to get that much in a day.

Two full body, one of which is me in a suit. Two face shots, one is a side profile that shows off what I feel is my best side, the other is a full frontal shot of me smiling. I've tried 3 of them as my main pic with these results:

Side profile (honestly my best picture facially, imo): Lukewarm results

Full head shot of me smirking: Much better reception

Picture of me in a suit: Best match rate of all.

First week I tried the suit shot, I had 40 matches in that week, and I'm one of those only-swipe-on-girls-I-like type of fellows. Not a mass swiper. So I was happy with the results. Then I got 0 the following week because, as per usual, Tinder stops working for me after a week. Time to reset.

Been following this thread for a while, but not sure if this has been discussed yet. I recently took a break from initating girls on Tinder because of injury - considering how Tinder is all about quick conversion, I didn't see a point in initiating girls if I can't meet up for a few weeks. Over that time though, I got about a dozen matches. Now that I'm feeling better, I'm about to go through and initiate with these matches that I've had for over a week. Does anybody have experience with initiating matches a week or two after you've already matched.. are response rates about the same as usual or significantly worse? I'm about to find out for myself, but just wanted to get an idea.

^^ I banged a girl last weekend who was my second ever match on tinder.

I got tinder back in february.

I gave up on tinder for a month once and when I got back on it I hit up a bunch of girls I had matched in that time with some success.

You have nothing to lose anyway. Go for it.

(08-21-2014 09:29 PM)RDF Wrote:  Been following this thread for a while, but not sure if this has been discussed yet. I recently took a break from initating girls on Tinder because of injury - considering how Tinder is all about quick conversion, I didn't see a point in initiating girls if I can't meet up for a few weeks. Over that time though, I got about a dozen matches. Now that I'm feeling better, I'm about to go through and initiate with these matches that I've had for over a week. Does anybody have experience with initiating matches a week or two after you've already matched.. are response rates about the same as usual or significantly worse? I'm about to find out for myself, but just wanted to get an idea.

It doesn't matter when you match only when you message.
In my experience only girls i don't like will message you first.
Any girl that I like just forgets about you after the match and waits for the messages to roll in.
In some locations where even hot girls will message you first you can wait for a long time to message them back.

(08-21-2014 11:46 PM)bigbait Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 09:29 PM)RDF Wrote:  Been following this thread for a while, but not sure if this has been discussed yet. I recently took a break from initating girls on Tinder because of injury - considering how Tinder is all about quick conversion, I didn't see a point in initiating girls if I can't meet up for a few weeks. Over that time though, I got about a dozen matches. Now that I'm feeling better, I'm about to go through and initiate with these matches that I've had for over a week. Does anybody have experience with initiating matches a week or two after you've already matched.. are response rates about the same as usual or significantly worse? I'm about to find out for myself, but just wanted to get an idea.

It doesn't matter when you match only when you message.
In my experience only girls i don't like will message you first.
Any girl that I like just forgets about you after the match and waits for the messages to roll in.
In some locations where even hot girls will message you first you can wait for a long time to message them back.

Agree with Bigbait.

Also, you could attempt to use the passage of time to your advantage to create the impression of DHV with some kind of line, such as: "I had noticed that we matched a few weeks ago, but I was NOT available" (or maybe use different words, depending on your style).... and then go into whatever attention grabber opener you are accustomed to use.

My tinder game needs re calibrating here. Got 50 matches, but only 1 number. A lot of interest drops immediately once they find out I am not a local. Probably should just start making up some BS story of why I am here.

(08-22-2014 04:42 AM)InternationalPlayboy Wrote:  My tinder game needs re calibrating here. Got 50 matches, but only 1 number. A lot of interest drops immediately once they find out I am not a local. Probably should just start making up some BS story of why I am here.

Well of course they'd lose interest, I hate getting matched to girls who were local when I swiped but 100's of miles away later.

How far is your radius ? Are you using a GPS spoofer ?

I keep a radius of 10 miles max from work and 25-30 from home.

It seems I get numbers in bunches. One weekend I'll get 10 numbers and another I'll get 0.

(08-22-2014 04:42 AM)InternationalPlayboy Wrote:  My tinder game needs re calibrating here. Got 50 matches, but only 1 number. A lot of interest drops immediately once they find out I am not a local. Probably should just start making up some BS story of why I am here.

in a way this is a good thing since they are screening themselves for you. whenever a girl is like "hey i'm only visiting friends in town for a week" i am running "i will bang you any night you don't have plans with your friends" game

(08-22-2014 12:21 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  It seems I get numbers in bunches. One weekend I'll get 10 numbers and another I'll get 0.

there are a couple of reasons for this
1) because girls are often available to chat at the same time (i.e. in nyc mon-thurs 10pm-12, friday during the day, in jakarta 7-9am when they are on the bus going to work). if you strike while the pussy is hot then you are going for the kill while they are available
2) because hot streak are normal (called the gambler's fallacy): Gambler's fallacy occurs mostly in cases in which people feel that an event is random, such as rolling a pair of dice on a craps table or spinning the roulette wheel. It is caused by the false belief that the random numbers of a small sample will balance out the way they do in large samples; this is known as the law of small numbers heuristic. The difference between this and the hot-hand fallacy is that with the hot-hand fallacy an individual expects a run to continue

I think I check my Tinder way too often. I catch myself looking at it probably 6 or 7 times a day. I was reading that it is best to wait at least 12-24hrs after you have matched to send a message. What do you guys think?

I feel like I've had it both ways. Where I send the message in the morning and date by night time but I've also had it where it we have messaged back and forth over a week or so period.

I guess it just depends if you have built enough attraction or not.

I matched with a solid 8+ 18 yo high school girl last night, I saw she'd posted a "moment" selfie of her and a friend saying they're bored and asking whose free. After some back and forth she invited me over to her friends place she was chilling at (parents overseas) and asked me to bring alcohol. Got there and it was my girl, some girl with a boyfriend who was working that night and some 5/10 desperately trying to find a guy off tinder to come over too, without success. My girl was acting keen on me straight off the bat, went out of her way to grind me on a couple times and I got the makeout when her friends weren't around. Long story short my girls dad told her she had to be home by 11, cause she got caught drinking in a park with her friends the night before. I dropped her off at her house, thinking I could try the bang her parked outside her house move. Unfortunately as I drove past her crib, her dad was standing by the window watching, and then called her...



If she hadn't been forced to go home she would've slept over with the rest of them. It seems like these high school girls were trying to throw a little "let's fuck guys off tinder" sleepover party. I wonder how common this is now.

(08-24-2014 12:04 AM)Deluge Wrote:  I matched with a solid 8+ 18 yo high school girl last night, I saw she'd posted a "moment" selfie of her and a friend saying they're bored and asking whose free. After some back and forth she invited me over to her friends place she was chilling at (parents overseas) and asked me to bring alcohol. Got there and it was my girl, some girl with a boyfriend who was working that night and some 5/10 desperately trying to find a guy off tinder to come over too, without success. My girl was acting keen on me straight off the bat, went out of her way to grind me on a couple times and I got the makeout when her friends weren't around. Long story short my girls dad told her she had to be home by 11, cause she got caught drinking in a park with her friends the night before. I dropped her off at her house, thinking I could try the bang her parked outside her house move. Unfortunately as I drove past her crib, her dad was standing by the window watching, and then called her...



If she hadn't been forced to go home she would've slept over with the rest of them. It seems like these high school girls were trying to throw a little "let's fuck guys off tinder" sleepover party. I wonder how common this is now.

Haven't had this happen to me yet

(08-24-2014 12:04 AM)Deluge Wrote:  I matched with a solid 8+ 18 yo high school girl last night, I saw she'd posted a "moment" selfie of her and a friend saying they're bored and asking whose free. It seems like these high school girls were trying to throw a little "let's fuck guys off tinder" sleepover party. I wonder how common this is now.

Damn! What do you have as your age on the app? At 32 I get a lot of girls under 25 who quickly drop the conversation, one 19 yo specifically called the age thing out. Thinking about changing it to 28. Youngest bang I've had was 21 year old last week. 18 automatically adds 3 points SMV in my book, hope you get a do-over on her!

Supposed to meet up with a soft 8 Asian chick in the next hour, we will see if she flakes or not. Seems keen on meeting up, I'll keep ya posted.

Flake but she rescheduled for tomorrow which is a good sign. Told her I would let her know if that works.

(08-24-2014 12:43 PM)Gorgiass Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:04 AM)Deluge Wrote:  I matched with a solid 8+ 18 yo high school girl last night, I saw she'd posted a "moment" selfie of her and a friend saying they're bored and asking whose free. It seems like these high school girls were trying to throw a little "let's fuck guys off tinder" sleepover party. I wonder how common this is now.

Damn! What do you have as your age on the app? At 32 I get a lot of girls under 25 who quickly drop the conversation, one 19 yo specifically called the age thing out. Thinking about changing it to 28. Youngest bang I've had was 21 year old last week. 18 automatically adds 3 points SMV in my book, hope you get a do-over on her!

As you can guess from my sig, I'm in college. If I were you I'd change your age to 26 or 27.